War is Imminent

[Jedi Master Carr]

I haven't watched a bit of it, it looks very boring, and I just am not interested in sitting around watching nothing but people talk and very fuzzy pictures. I won't watch it tomorrow either I guess I will hunt down to see where the NCAA games will be on I guess ESPN for Thursday and Friday, I think they will be on CBS for Saturday and Sunday. Maybe ESPN can show better coverage maybe even go around to the best games. I might have to hunt down a radio station on the internet to find the UConn game if I want to hear it though.

[Morgan Evanar]

MOAB woulda worked more efficiently.

Sheesh. Lebron, go study military technology for a little bit and then speak, ok? Tohmahawks can be launched off the coast of California and hit a house in Utah. They're VERY powerful weapons, and can be very very accurate.

[Wei Wu Wei]

The person with the most muscle doesn't always win. Playing smarter is more often than not much better an option than playing harder.

[Admiral Lebron]

It was a joke... I feel I'm fairly upto date on American technology...

[Marcus Telcontar]

Originally posted by Admiral Lebron
MOAB woulda worked more efficiently.

Shut up. Just.... shut up. Do you have have bloody idea how useless MOAB's are in a strike liek this? A slow moving C130 and pysicalyl thrown out the back of the aircraft. Firstly, the bloody plane is a sitting duck. Second, MOAB's are incredibly messy and only an idiot would try one of those in a urban area, with NO guarenttee of success.

Missiles guided by a F117 is about as surgical as you can get by air. It's a presice strike, not a lets turn Baghdad into a pancake

[Sanis Prent]

:: Take my Department of Homeland Security Duct Tape and PUTS IT OVER LEBRON'S MOUTH ::

Tom Ridge, I misjudged you!

[Morgan Evanar]

Originally posted by Sanis Prent
:: Take my Department of Homeland Security Duct Tape and PUTS IT OVER LEBRON'S MOUTH ::

Tom Ridge, I misjudged you!

bwhaha HAHAHAHAHAHA! Thank you.

Anyway, 40 cruise missiles is the CNN count now. Carrier groups are getting fighters airborne.

Troops on the Kuwaiti border are still waiting for the green light.

I hope this is fast, and as casualty free as possible. =[

[Wei Wu Wei]

You never know, Morgan. You never know. As I said before, all we can do is sit tight, and try to be patient. But I have a feeling that all this will be over before we know it.

[CMJ]

When we go, it'll be quick and fast. I expect this to be very decisive.

Then we need the UN to help us in setting up a new Iraqi government. We can't do it by ourselves, and it would help smooth over *some* resentment.

[Sanis Prent]

Ahhh...I love the smell of Baghdad in the morning. I'm spent. All done here. France, sort this crap and clean my jockstrap. I'm duckin out to take a piss.

/Rumsfeld

[Marcus Telcontar]

Now Hussein is speaking - this guy does not sound truly coherent. He's rambling. The basics are easy to get, but this is some strange choice of words.

I almost think he's either in shock or that missile attack got someone he did nt want to lose.

[Sanis Prent]

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Saddam is catchy

I almost think he's either in shock or that missile attack got someone he did nt want to lose.

or.....the announcement was a pre-empted tape. Notice no details were given in the speech. Nothing to guarantee that it happened after the attack.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Stop with the juvenile PS stuff. It's no longer funny and it's old hat.

or.....the announcement was a pre-empted tape. Notice no details were given in the speech. Nothing to guarantee that it happened after the attack.

Now that's something we should be discussing. I can agree with that and it's already been pointed out. Suspiciously few details in this ramble. which makes me wonder, did they get someone? Or has this blatant assasination attempt scared him? It's certainly not the real start of the war so..... I see two things. Either they got saddam or someone else up high, Saddam is dead or injured. That means Iraq's leadership is in turmoil, fast surrender. OR, saddam is alive, is spooked and goes into deep hiding. War will most likely go for longer.

whatever the outcome, this also has a good political outcome. It makes it look like the USA real target is Saddam, who everyone agrees needs to be belted. Good move, even if it was done on the fly.

[Figrin D'an]

As much as I would love for Saddam to be taken alive and tried for war crimes and human rights violations, one can't really fault using the intel about his location (a quite exposed one, to be sure) to plant a surgical strike on him. It certainly does send a very powerful message that they're serious about taking him out this time, one way or the other...

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Marcus Elessar
Stop with the juvenile PS stuff. It's no longer funny and it's old hat.

I think I will continue, instead...as the muse permits me.

RAWR VETO

/france

[Lann Kirauc]

Originally posted by Figrin D'an
As much as I would love for Saddam to be taken alive and tried for war crimes and human rights violations, one can't really fault using the intel about his location (a quite exposed one, to be sure) to plant a surgical strike on him. It certainly does send a very powerful message that they're serious about taking him out this time, one way or the other...

No, I just want him taken out by an airstrike or whatever. Plus his two psycho sons, Odai and Qusai, need to go also.

Odai is a member of parliment. And heads a popular newspaper, Babil and a popular Youth TV channel. He also heads the National Olympic Committee which is being investigated on allegations of Athlete torture and using the committee to duck UN Sanctions. Founded the Fedayeen in 1995, a paramilitary force consisting of 30,000 that is outside the control of the Republican Guard. A regime used to oppress internal opposition.

Qusai supervises the Republican Guard, the Directorate of Intelligence, Military Intelligence and National Security Council. Head of Amn al'Khass, the intelligence unit tasked with surveillance of key military and intelligence personnel. And has long been in charge of his father's personal security. Studied law and married a daughter of a senior military commander. Since 2000, he also has been in charge of the army branch of the Baath party, meaning virtually all the army's movements were under his supervision. In his capacity as head of the special Intel service, he is in charge of some of the notorious dentetion centers. Iraqi dissidents who worked close to Qusai Hussein charge that he was responsible for killing many political activists.

Also one of them is reported as enjoying the torture of people, and is infamous for raping both women and men.

(note - this information was collected from various articles)

[Lann Kirauc]

More horrors of Qusai Hussein

The London Sunday Times reported that Qusai Hussein ordered the killing of Khalis Mohson al-Tikriti, an engineer at the military industrilization organization, on suspicion he was planning to leave Iraq.

In 1998, Iraqi opposition and human rights groups accused Qusai Hussein of ordering the executions of thousands of political prisoners after hundreds of inmates were summarily executed to make room for new prisoners in crowded jails.

(taken from a newspaper article)

[Figrin D'an]

Those kind of things are the very reason why, if it is possible, Saddam and his sons should be taken alive and put on trial for crimes against humanity. The world needs to be reminded of just what has taken place during Hussein's rule, and have it exposed for all to see. Death is too easy a way out given the atrocities that have been overseen by this man.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Just listening to the news, 36 tohmahawk missiles and two F117's with 2,000 lb bunker busters hit one target believed to have 5 figures of signifigance

Wow. As well as the size of the attack, this I believe was a realyl good move - unexpected and politically good looking. Still.. 36 missiles at one target! I bet there's nothing left at the area.

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Marcus Elessar
Just listening to the news, 36 tohmahawk missiles and two F117's with 2,000 lb bunker busters hit one target believed to have 5 figures of signifigance

Wow. As well as the size of the attack, this I believe was a realyl good move - unexpected and politically good looking. Still.. 36 missiles at one target! I bet there's nothing left at the area.

Yeah, a retired general working as an analyst mentioned that, in that kind of situation, there would have been enough explosives used to level the entire complex. His exact words were, "If 18 buildings were shown to be on the site, then 18 buildings would have been destroyed." If you get a chance to hit something of that significance, you want to be sure you hit all of it...