Ye olde Sith Order...

[Southstar]

I haven't written on these forums in ages. but two things happened, 1) I started writing fiction a lot more frequently in my spare time. 2) Star Wars 7 happened.

Most of my writing was with the Sith Order from when it was under Lady Vader (whatever happened to her) through until it withered out. So what I'd like to do, if I can get the support of the higher-ups, is re-open the TSO forums. With Star Wars 7 coming out next year, I think we can expect an influx of newbies with all the hype that is likely to surround SW7 next year, similar to in 1999. yes there are various groups of dark Jedi running around, but a formal Sith Organization might fill in a nice gap. At the very least, the Jedi can have some proper Sith to fight with.

Of course, at this point it would be mostly myself, but I feel like it's more of a situation of if it's there, then people will join (either old timers or new recruits). I feel 100% sure I can handle organizing all the various Sith in the group, I did it before, I can do it again. This time around, I'd like to organize more events with the Jedi Order and the Imperials. It really has a whole bunch of potential and I think it could be done very well.

So, you people that decide which forums and sub-forums exist or not, May I?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Goodness gracious dude! Long time no see!!!

I'm totally cool with a subforum for a Sith group that's in the same vein as the Jedi's Ossus subforum :)

[Captain Untouchable]

Not meaning to be a Negative Nancy, but I believe in the past when people have asked to set up a Sith forums, the stance has been "show that there's enough activity to deserve one first". Not saying that's necessarily the current or official stance... just pointing that out for the sake of unfairness avoidance / risk of upsetting people who have asked in the past / etc. :)

[Lady Frygt]

And in the interest of writing a new interesting story, this is my latest character from which I intend to handle all Sith Order business.

[Dragon]

Hey, man, I remember seeing you when I first joined up (as Kale). Welcome back!

We've reorganized the forums a few different times, most recently to cut down on the number of subforums and the number of clicks you had to go through to get to RP threads. Used to be every group seemed to have multiple location-based sub-fora and at least one OOC forum. Now we've got what used to be group-based forums in Star Wars Homeworlds. They're basically group forums, but they're intended to be location-based, so a Rebel spy mission into Imperial Centre would go in the Coruscant forum, while an Alliance Senate thread, Rogue Squadron training maneuvers, or an Imperial diplomatic envoy to Alliance HQ would all go in the Bothawui forum.

It would be pretty simple to add a Sith-centric forum set on Korriban or wherever you want to put your headquarters. But I agree with Jace that there needs to be an active component to justify the addition. And I'd love to see more active Dark Siders!

So far we've had four main players on the Dark Side of things... There's the epic nine-year story arc (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?55478-A-Nine-Year-Story-Arc) of Darth Decepis and Lok/Darth Acera that has nearly reached its conclusion, which was very much a "rule of two" proposition. There's the Circle, more of an opportunistic/Machiavellian Dark Jedi group scheming for power, whose leader, Salem Ave, has successfully installed himself at the highest levels of Alliance government. There's Lilaena De'Ville's more subversive ragtag band of zealots and anarchists attacking anyone they believe to be oppressing Force adepts, sort of a Star Wars version of the Brotherhood of Mutants. Finally, we've had the Inquisitors, who of course operate out of the Imperial faction and have morphed into the Imperial Knights, some of whom actually use the Light Side.

I wasn't involved in TSO before the reset, but what sort of identity are you interested in creating for the Sith Order?

[Captain Untouchable]

Don't forget the Imperial Knights as well!

They're a newly-created group of Empire-affiliated Force users. The idea is that while the Inquisitors were/are a secretive organisation, the Imperial Knights have a role more akin to the Jedi during the Clone Wars, acting as Commanders and Generals and such within the existing military hierarchy in situations that require their brand of attention and skills. Rossos Atrapes is their leader.

I guess they're not Sith per se, but they're certainly skewed more towards dark than light.

[Lady Frygt]

OK, as I'm reading things, I'm seeing a couple problems in bringing back the old Sith Order. 1) the admin don't want another network of forums and sub forums as extensive as they used to be. 2) The Sith have been clipped back to the rule of and at a glance a lot of work has gone into this story, I'd hate to be the jerk to ruin it. Plus rule of two makes more sense than big organization of darksiders, at least in terms of canon history.

So I propose various solutions to those described problems
1) Instead of a massive network of subforums can I use as plenet? The Sith Order was based on Corellia, I'd prefer most to have that again.

2) I'd like to make the Sith Order a little less Sithy, for example, the reason Palpatine wasn't already ruling the galaxy was because the Sith way is to only have two Sith at one time and also because Sith end up killing their master as part of their training.

So, what I propose is a sort of "reformed" Sith that is run more along the Jedi Temple lines. You all can keep your rule of two nonsense, as I would really hate to bust up that giant arc. The other bonus is with two Sith Branches, there's potential for more story and rivalry. Each can claim to be the truer Sith from time to time, like how Catholics fight with Protestants every once and a while. We'll call it the Sith Order so when the newbies get all excited as SW7 approaches, they'll know where to go to write their bad guy character.

Is this acceptable?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

We have a decent smattering of Sith; no clipping of them has happened. There are some that congregate in groups, some that follow the rule of two, etc. I know there have been a few times that some Sith acknowledge the presence of others, and see them as heretics to be delt with.

As far as having a single planet rather than a network of subforums, I feel that it's completely doable.

[Captain Untouchable]

Corellia would be a bit of a pro/con planet for the Sith in our storyline at the moment.

Not everyone in the Alliance of Free Planets is entirely happy with the idea of not being at war with the Empire anymore. Some people don't like the fact that they've "given up" avenging Alderaan and the other Imperial crimes. Others - particularly those from worlds like Corellia, Chandrila, Duro, and Ithor, which ended up on the Imperial side of the border when it was drawn - feel like the Alliance has given up on trying to liberate them. Corellia in particular has become a bit of a focal point for more overtly terrorist type rebel activity, and we started laying the groundwork for that, which included forcing a Star Destroyer to crash into an area of the capital during a big fancy parade.

Stuff hasn't gone too far there, but the preparation steps mean that there's a Moff and some military types already, some Black Sun people, Corellian mafia, rebel/terrorists, and a few bits and pieces in position ready to do stuff when activity happens. On the pro side, there's potential there for a lot of activity on the planet, which would make it even more beneficial to have a forum, and the idea of the Sith vying with the Empire for control over the Corellian government could make for an interesting angle; on the con side, that might not give you the level of free reign you might be looking for, and there might be a bit more Imperial attention than you might want.


If you're not sure about where the borders are there's a SW-Fans Essential Atlas (http://theholo.net/forum/showthread.php?55315-SW-Fans-Essential-Atlas) thread stickied in this forum. I'm a smidge behind on updates to it (the PC that the source file is on is sitting in a storage lock-up right now), but it should give you what you need to know.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

For the record, I would absolutely LOVE to see TSO back and active again here. I never had a sith character back in the Order's heyday, and I really really want to rectify that this time around :D

[Lady Frygt]

So what I'm thinking is instead of making a new planetary subforum, why not use an existing one? There has been no new post in the past 30 days in the Onderon, Dathomir and Hapes forum. The big oddball there I think is Hapes, why not drop Hapes and add Corelia? Corellia was the home of TSO back in the day. Let's set Corellia as the home world and put the remainder at some sort of colony status, the existing forum will be used in a similar manner as the old TSO forums. Joining, training and various evil planning takes place in the subforums, bigger actions take place in the SW general forum. And if it's not to much, a hidden OOC forum would be helpful.

[Tiberius Anar]

The world you pick as a base of operations for the order is going to have a big impact upon the nature and operations of it and, therefore, the sort of roleplays you get to do.

At this stage we are only a few years on from the Battles of Yavin and Endor and, while our version of events leading up to those battles and since, differ in some ways I do not think they differ enough to make it realistic that the Sith would have been able to take over a major Core world. If nothing else, the Empire in this setting, remains a powerful united force (albeit one on the ropes).

This is in marked contrast to the setting we had when The Sith Order was active back in the day. In that setting we were several decades on from the events of the original trilogy with a fragmented Empire and a powerful but not dominant New Republic. In that setting there had been time and opportunity for the Sith to take over and hold Corellia for their own (albeit with a puppet government) and good reasons for this to be tolerated by other factions.

If you want the challenge of showing the takeover of Corellia and fall out then I think there are those who would be willing to work with you on that (it would make an interesting political conundrum for the Imperial government to find a modus vivendi) and I look forward to seeing the arc develop. I also look forward to seeing the transformation of a normal world into one that is run (from behind the scenes or would it be publicly?) by a bunch of Force using sociopaths. If, however, you wish to have an established base of operations for the Order (a very Sithy world if you will) then I would suggest that finding another world (canon or non-canon perhaps) and establishing in short order a suitable backstory to explain its possession by a bunch of dark siders is the way to go since doing the same for Corellia seems a stretch.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Ziost might be an awesome origin world. It has ties to the old Sith race so that's a bonus. It's a stones throw away from Republic space and close to the edge of the map (R-4) though, so that would make it difficult to do anything in terms of a takeover of Corellia. Then again, that does open up another avenue, in that you could possibly begin a march over the top of where the Cluster is, and take over systems along a portion of the top of the map. Dathomir is relatively close if you do that, so maybe a hook down to take over Dathomir wouldn't be inconceivable. This option doesn't have Corellia being involved in any way, but it does open up the door for TSO to control a section of space. At which point Ziost could remain your homeworld, or another could be chosen. Heck, you could even use Yavin. Turn board history on its' ear and establish TSO on the old home turf of the GJO :dood:

We can still do another subforum for the Order, since to me it doesn't make sense to sub out any of the worlds that are listed currently. As for a private forum, we pretty much did away with faction-specific private forums a while ago, and just put everything in the main RP and planning forum.

[Dragon]

While Hapes looks like the odd one out, it's the seat of Salem Ave's political power and the Circle's avenue into Alliance politics, so it's pretty important. The Circle is really Jenny's baby, and she hasn't been active for a while. Having a visible, active, and more conventional Sith Order will definitely make it easier for newbies with Dark Side characters to participate. I think Lok's suggestion is an excellent one, since it gives TSO a lot more freedom to act with impunity, but obviously this is your idea, and your decision. :)

Just to add in a little more on the private forum front, there are so many RPers with hands in multiple factions that private planning forums are pretty much obsolete. No one's concerned about espionage between groups because we're all just trying to tell great stories, and that works better when we collaborate. I'm just as happy to write the losing side of a battle as the winning side, and to keep my characters ignorant of OOC knowledge. Heck, for the past several years I've written a Dark Jedi apprentice who's been installed as a sleeper agent among the Jedi, and it's been one of the most rewarding storylines I've written on these forums.

The other side of things, of course, is that our membership isn't as big as it used to be, and with multiple planning forums we were getting stretched really thin. If we have a massive influx of new members with the new movies, we might re-evaluate our organization to keep the main RP Planning forum from becoming a clusterfrack.

[Lady Frygt]

Ok... point taken. Given the current political situation, Corellia would be a bit of a stretch. If Corellia is off the table, then I think Hapes, Dathomir and Onderon ought to be an option. It's apparently an underused forum to begin with. I think that it was intended as a sort of home base for Darksiders, but it appears to have died out since it's creation. So why not pass on something not being used to someone willing to use it.

The Corellia take over story sounds like an interesting arc. I'd love to flex my political writing skills, but right now, I think priority 1 ought to be reviving the darkside. Then if we get a good story going and a strong core of characters, then we can consider if a major political story arc would be interesting and worth it.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

The only issue I have with re-appropriating the Hapes/Onderon/Dathomir forum is that there are six pages of threads there, plus I know that despite its' current inactivity there was to my knowledge a fair amount of planning going on with that group.

We'll need to get Jones, Holly, Razzy, and I believe Dee in here to get their thoughts on switching that forum over.

[Razielle Alastor]

I'm here. Just mostly waiting on those threads for 'A Certain Party' to return from her lengthy hiatus. *coughJencough* I'm kind of stuck there without her. LOL

But yes, Hapes and Dathomir are both our playgrounds. Onderon as well.. Hapes is really not a negotiable thing. Right now Dathomir has a certain story line going along with it, which runs in tandem with things going on with Hapes. So yeah... I'm not really feeling handing over the reigns on either of those locations. Sorry, just being honest.

I have not abandoned my stories there. I'm just waiting on people to come back from loa's and such.

Now, if there is truly a need for a new group ( like...multiple people wanting to be in it and be active) then why not just add another planet to that subforum? Hapes, Onderon, Dathomir and The Land of Ooo, whatever.

[Zereth Lancer]

I think Corellia can still be on the table as a foothold for TSO, but perhaps not in the way you desire. The history of TSO is that they were routed from Korriban by Alexia Sturkov (now an Imperial Knight) with a small army of clone monster soldiers. They fled to Corellia afterwards where they had influence but that's when the members of TSO all fell away and the faction died. I kept the torch alive for awhile. The way I wrote the Sith's control of Corellia was more of a behind the scenes deal, where they had politicians and power players in their pockets, or had even implanted their own people in those positions. Basically they controlled Corellia from the shadows. Not publicly. Since TSO faded away from power those points of control have weakened but they could very likely rise back up and retake control. I don't think they would ever be able to publicly control the planet because they would need a lot to accomplish that. I think this angle could be really cool especially with the Independence War thing we started awhile back. The in-fighting between the Empire and the Independence could draw out the Sith who would be scrambling to maintain their control in the chaos.

There was also a darkside cult started on Corellia in the wake of TSO's disappearance that is mostly non-force users turned zealots who worship the darkside like a kind of hobby religion. They would be bent into followers of TSO should they return to power on Corellia.

I think I last had Alexia moved to Corellia to oversee cleaning up the fallen Star Destroyer and root out the Independence. She would prove a great adversary to the Sith since she's already tried to stomp them out once before.

If you want to go with another planet my personal suggestion is Thule. It already has a big temple and a strong link to the Darkside of the Force in the past. It is a bit more smack dab in the middle of controlled space but it really comes down to how you want to roleplay TSO; either as a shadow group working from behind the scenes or as a bold, public enemy of the Galaxy. If you want to go with a hostile take over of a planet my sith alchemist Ezra Na'chtion has been working on creating a new species of predator for the purpose of ravaging planet populations. What he's making is basically Zerglings from Starcraft, low bodied, fast moving pack hunters that can tear through a poorly defended city like butter. He hasn't gotten this new brood to a deployment level yet but it's definitely an option.

Or TSO could always go back to Korriban. The clone soldiers Alexia sent there have all died out a long time ago due to their genetic instability. Ezra actually killed the last commander of the creatures the last time he was on Korriban to retrieve Baralai Lotus' alchemic books. Their secret facility still exists within the tombs so it's always an option to go back there. I would suggest against it because it isolates the group. I know that was an issue for us back in the day. We were horribly isolated and not really interacting with the rest of the galaxy much. I think something closer to the galactic events would be best.

That's my two cents at least. I would really like to see TSO rise from the ashes. It was my baby for a really long time and I want to see it succeed. Zereth won't be participating this time around as he is already involved with LD's group, which I feel is a better fit for him. I do have Ezra though, and should the cult be absorbed there's also my leader of the cult, the insane Alexander Bane.

[Dasquian Belargic]

If you want to revive TSO or start a new Sith faction, go for it. You can do all sorts of exciting things... that don't involve Onderon or Hapes ;)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

If it's decided to give TSO their own subforum, could have it read:

The Sith Order
With the seat of their power on (planet x), The Sith Order has begun to reach out and reclaim their once-prominant foothold in the galaxy.

Or something to that extent.


Depending on what angle you're going for, it may be a good idea to be seperate from Sith groups that operate more in the shadows? Razzy's idea to roll another planet into that particular subforum is a good one as well.

[Charley]

Corellia is something of a powder keg at this point. It might not be a place to rule overtly, but I figure some sith could certainly use the situation there to their advantage

[Lady Frygt]

Ok, that is good news!

But firstly, my apologies to Razkielle Alastor, I didn't realize you were still doing stuff in those forums.

So, I'm looking at maps and if we want to go the route of rolling something in with the Dathomir, Hapes, Onderon... Then Taanab is nearby and pretty expendable, farmland mostly... might be fun to do some Stalinist industriaslization on the planet, just cause Sith gotta start trouble. I'm content with Taanab if you are.

[Razielle Alastor]

LOL, no worries. Just me waving from my little lustrous corner of obscurity to let everyone know I'm here. :p

[Dasquian Belargic]

I'm not sure why these new Sith would need to start out on a planet near Hapes etc. ?? IC, it would be a poor choice when there's a powerful Sith nearby who would want to stamp them out ;)

I'd also suggest getting a decent bit of Rping under your belts as a faction before you think about needing a forum of your own.

[Lady Frygt]

Taanab makes sense because it's got a large farming (read poor) population, but is also right on the Perlemian Way, so someone on that planet is making money., I assume it going into trading executives pockets or possibly the Taanab government squanders it. Redirect trade profits to indsustrializing the planet . but keep a big enough cut to pay tribute to the rulers nearby in exchange for protection. Then when things get moving industrially, you revamp the army, offer a competitive pay and in order to get out of the factories, many will join as it is their patriotic duty but also because pay is good. Invent a threat and use it to keep your military from being inexperienced ( bunch of Sith should be able to handle that.) promise big chunks of the enemy's money or land in exchange for service. When the soldiers retire., then don't go back into industry, they get a vast estate to farm, live on and most importantly to defend. Do it wide enough across the population and the planet becomes to difficult to invade with ground troops. Glorify the military and use it to control the population. Make it so complicated that no one but someone from Taanab could understand it. So I conclude, it makes perfect sense that a group could run this planet and make it very, very costly to occupy, similar to Iraq, Vietnam and Guinea Bissau.

Next, I think it would be foolish to even want to squish the Sith out of Taanab, if they're paying tribute (a nice chunk of that Perlemian Trade route money) providing services ( I see assassins being very helpful to a monarch that has plenty of enemies) To the people in power, right over in Hapes, it's like a colony that actually makes money for it's empire. The analogue in our world would be like the British running South Africa, where they've got a fairly nasty population living there (Boers), London doesn't have to like the Boers because the Boers keep things calm, albeit brutally, and pays up on time. Taanab would work like that, TSO runs things, pays tribute and generally depends on Hapes to a)provide protection if necessary and b) sell stuff to the Taanab, in exchange Hapes has to support the equivilant of a University. The way TSO would want to run things, it wouldn't be worth Hapes time and money to go squash it. On top of that, while Taanab might be populous, they can't come close to what Hapes could pull together out of 60+ systems, it'd be the equivalent of Puerto Rico trying to invade the USA, not to mention Tanaab has no existing docks nor fleet, by the time Tanaab amassed a fleet of significance, TSo would no longer be in power. I see Hapes gaining more than they could possibly lose. Callidus might be powerful, but if he's running an Empire, he needs money. If Taanab is unable to threaten his empire, why stamp it out? Because they're other Sith? That's a plausible reason, but not a good one. I'm sure Callidus has far more important things to do that run a planet by himself. As long as Lady Frygt understands who's boss, I'm seeing as little point in taking her out as Palpatine trying to get rid of Vader. And honestly, he might as well view TSO as a little Force powerful army that really has no choice but to do as he says. I dunno, a lot depends on how the roleplay goes. At the very least, it should be interesting.

Honestly, If I want to set up shop over by the Dark Empire my characters ought to be interacting with those people. stay tuned. I just wanted to get admin approval before going about reviving TSO.

[Tiberius Anar]

Taanab makes sense because it's got a large farming (read poor) population, but is also right on the Perlemian Way, so someone on that planet is making money., I assume it going into trading executives pockets or possibly the Taanab government squanders it.

Farmers are not necessarily poor. There's plenty of money to be made out of farming on a planetary scale, espeically when on a major trade route with worlds that are completely urbanised to sell to. Now it is entirely possible, there are poorly paid labourers (especially if droids are doing a lot of the work) employed by independent or corporate farm owners. A subtle way into a take over would be influence those owners to become harsher so you can step in and "resuce" their labourers or to become their conduit to sell to the rest of the Galaxy by taking over one of the wholesalers who buy their produce. This would give you the influence to begin changing the world to meet your nefarious needs. Plus, who wants to bite the hand that feeds them? Contorl neighbouring worlds' food supply and they'll not want to mess with you.

[Lady Frygt]

Possibly... but I'm seeing the planet as a pre-industrial type planet like say a pre-revolution Russia or China. Generally when there's a farming country it's a family run type of operation. Though... droids, I didn'tthink of that. With droids there could be 1 farmer and the whole planet could be farmed. We'll see... I'm not going to think to hard about it until I know I get to use that planet.

Though really, a planet may not even be necessary. All that is needed is a building somewhere really.

[Lady Frygt]

Ok, so where are we on this? I'm all in favor of adding a planet to the very inactive Hapes, Onderon and Dathomir forum and just doing Sit things from there. I've mentioned Taanab multiple times, so:

The Sith Order
With the seat of their power on Taanab, The Sith Order has begun to reach out and reclaim their once-prominant foothold in the galaxy.

Yea or nay?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I'm a-ok with whatever is decided, just let me know when things are agreed upon so that the descriptions can be changed/things added/ what-have-you :)

[Lady Frygt]

Ok, well I am agreed to all that has been discussed so far. I don't know who else needs to chime in, Maybe Zereth ought to as I think his character Ezra is going to play a significant part in the in-story revival of TSO. So I'm in favor of going forward.

[Ezra Na'chtion]

I think it all looks good. I like the use of Tanaab as it would greatly intrigue Ezra and his own pursuits. The Wookieepedia entry even lists that there is/was at least one Sith outpost on the planet from wartime, so TSO could even set up in that or perhaps other yet discovered outposts as a base of operation. I know Ezra would like to locate one for his own personal use if nothing else.

[Lady Frygt]

The more I ponder the Taanab idea over I think we might want to try treating TSO as something akin to an academy or university. The Academy of Sith Order? Still as evil as ever, but with a new approach.

[Ben Merasska]

Evil Hogwarts?!

[Captain Untouchable]

I think an Academy would be a great idea: if your primary focus is sharing knowledge and power (as opposed to establishing some sort of martial or religious hierarchy), it makes it more accessible to darksider characters at any level; even a Sith Lord can come along and be a student, if there are things about the Force they don't know. You could probably be a little more casual about it too: if people are able to come to Taanab and learn about the dark side without being inducted into some Sith cult in the process, that opens things up for visits by Inquisitors, Imperial Knights, Jedi-hunting bounty hunters, Grey Jedi, non-aligned Force users who haven't been indoctrinated into the Jedi mentality of light side / dark side... basically anyone who wants to know stuff. It's not strictly a "new" approach either - you've got the precedent of KOTOR and SWTOR to say that it's something the Sith have done before.

Just thinking out loud: if you want maximum accessibility, Taanab might not be the best location, geographically speaking. It's in Imperial space, and it's close to the Alliance border, so while it's not important per se (though I suppose you could argue that an agriworld is pretty important), that region is probably going to be thick with Imperial patrols, which might make the Academy slightly less accessible than would be preferable.

If you shift north or south a few sectors, there are some areas of neutral space that would have maximum accessibility. Ambria is a sparsely populated desert world that is strong in the dark side; Manaan is an ocean world with some interesting history and dark side ties to it; Cona, Antar IV (as in Antarian Rangers), Malrev, Thesme, and Toprowa could all make pretty good candidates too.

Not that Taanab doesn't work; it just might be a little tricky to get to... and by virtue of the fact that Ossus is tricky to get to as well (being deep in Alliance space and all), you may inadvertently find yourself loyal to the Empire, purely because of the kind of people who are able to get to where you are.

[Lady Frygt]

I agree, there are a lot more possibilities and interesting developments with something like a Dark Academy. We can still write the bad guys storyline as there would be a group of core Sith running the show, but the Academy idea is more Lady Frygt's idea to draw in people with the logic that there aren't enough Sith to challenge the Jedi, but if you get a strong core of Sith and a bunch of neutrals that are inclined to be favorable the Sith, then you might stand a fighting chance, Same with Darth Callidus, I expect he'll be none-yo-happy about any other Sith running around thinking they own the place, but if there's enough on her side, she stands a fighting chance. On top of that all Frygt wants to be able to take the moral high ground when the inevitable Jedi-Sith conflict gathers public attention, it's easier to say "No, WE are the good guys because we let people choose which side to follow the Jedi act like dictators over there on Ossus where it's their way or gtfo."

Plus then, there's the public, Frygt wants the general public in the galaxy to be on her side. I don't know if we want to go the "you can be Force-sensitive too!" route, but one purpose of an academy would be to expand Sith philosophy beyond Force-sensitives, similar to the medieval university style of things where you went to the Uni to learn about whatever, but also got a good dose of Christian philosophy because the church ran the schools. In that way you build minions.

Overall I feel like it would be a better way to write the Sith on this forum than the traditional red-eyed evil people scheming in a castle. Obviously we're scheming but at the same time engaging the larger galaxy while making our evil plots, which means our schemes will have more galactic impact. This way, TSO is writing with more groups on the forums, especially the political groups and once organized, I'd like to do more with the Jedi characters than we did in the past, we're ideological enemies, we should be fighting a lot, if not with lightsabers then ideas.

All in all, Evil Hogwarts is one way to look at it, but I see it as more of an Evil Asimov style Foundation.