Obligatory Supernatural Thread - Grab your salt and a box of tissues

[Emelie Shadowstar]

Because we needed one. Because we keep spamming the god damn General bullshit rambling thread.

Because we need to discuss the following:


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Because of Saving People
Hunting Things
The Family Business.

Because I'm late to the party... so sue me.


Because

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AND MOST Importantly Because of

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So here's some damn ground rules since we're all at different god damn points.
LABEL your ep that you are referencing (03x03, 09x10, etc, etc, etc,). SPOILER TAG that shit (don't forget to put the entire thing in brackets [] so that it doesn't show up on the activity feed, okay?)


And Carry On My Wayward Fandom <3

Or you know... random person who wandered in here and is wondering why the rest of us are sobbing/laughing/dying inside.

...I will not apologize for gifspam.

[Emelie Shadowstar]

So I suppose I shall start this off... :|

Soooo ep 5x01

[Jesus fucking hell. I knew I was in trouble when I wasn't all weepy at the end of season 4 but that was a lot to take in. Apparently I'd already guessed most of the major plot points that were revealed here so... go me? Vessel for Michael = Dean and all.
...this show just gets more insane as it goes on. YAY! :D

Also Bobby is a supreme badass :| Yep.

Bring on the further insanity!]


AND 5x02

[...well... wasn't expecting that end. Eff you, show. Just....eff you.]

[Droo]

4x10

[Wow. This show just went up about ten notches. The new characters are awesome: Alastair is perfect, and the way he speaks is practically serpentine. Anna finds her way into your heart so easily, doesn't she? I was thrilled when she got her grace back, even though it is a bittersweet way to survive. Castiel shows great promise as a slow-burn character. You can see the doubt, the conflict, and realisation on his face in all of his scenes with the humans. I can't wait to see her where his story goes. And Uriel is such a bastard. I love to hate him. All these new characters have hit the ground running, and are ticking all the right boxes for me.

And then there was Dean's revelation at the end, about his final ten years in Hell. Bloody hell! These poor Winchester boys just don't get a break! No wonder Dean's always looking for a happy ending...] :mischief

[Charley]

We just made the transition into season six, and three episodes into it and I am soooo confused. To say its a jarring transition is an understatement, and like all things I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Season six spends a while finding it's feet, after the (end of season 5)[wrap up of the five year apocalypse arc. The showrunner had a five year plan and it shows in how tightly everything was plotted through, and six flounders a bit. There are still really good episodes in it, and the show continues to be good and apparently season 8 and 9 are a return to form.] But yes, season 6 is better than season 1 but it is sort of [a new season 1 if that makes any sense.]

[Emelie Shadowstar]

5x04 :|

[Fuck this episode. Okay not really, I actually really liked it but at the same time it was just... no. This season so far is just bumming me out in the worst way. I'm kinda curious if in season 10 since that will be airing in 2014 we'll be seeing all this again. Or maybe some version of it. I'm not sure if I'd like that or not. Part of me wants to think the Winchesters can change fate but the rest of me knows that this show is messed up to the point where they'd make you think everything was going to be different and then BAM Lucifer!Sam anyway somehow.
Also Cas' character development has just leaped forward about a billion times. Seeing the future him was interesting/insightful kinda. He's seriously becoming a favorite very quickly. Which is great because last season I kinda just found him to be a bit jerky. haha.]

[Droo]

4x22

:love

5x01

[I'm getting really tired by the constant Sam guilt-tripping, and mopey-ass Dean. I stand by what I said about Sam doing the best with what he had, being practical, using his gift to do some good. So he was drinking demon blood? Boo-hoo! It was a means to an end. So he got manipulated? I know I would've fallen for it under the circumstances, especially if the other option was following Dean's nonsensical tactics, or anything to do with the angels.

When he had to kill that possessed-but-conscious screaming girl in last season's finale, I honestly think that was shoe-horned in there because the writers [I]knew that this oh-so-dark-and-dangerous path that Sam was walking wasn't quite dark enough, and they really needed to shove that in there to sway the audience's allegiance.

This whole thing wouldn't bother me if this was just limited to Dean being mad at Sam because he's a bit thick and goes with his gut instead of his brain, but it's not. Everyone appears to shaking their heads going tsk-tsk at Sam, and he just rolls with it like a sad little puppy. It's as if the writers, and the show itself, are desperately trying to convince me that Sam was a naughty boy, and yet I am totally Team Sam on this: he uses his head, works with what he has, and isn't a self-righteous douche. He made a mistake in killing Lilith, yes, but up until only moments before, Dean was also of the belief that if Lilith was killed then the final seal wouldn't be broken. I'd say his mistake in trusting the angels was just as grave.

I could go on in a stream-of-consciousness style rant listing the facts and the reasons why I'm getting frustrated in the (lol) demonising of Sam, but I'll just move on and hope things get better. If not, I'm going to continue shouting at the screen, and at Dean for being so self-righteous, self-pitying, and dumb.] :mad

5x03

[Oh yes, I could get used to these Dean and Castiel shenanigans! Bloody hilarious!]

5x04

["This isn't funny, Dean! The voice says I'm almost out of minutes!"] :lol

5x06

[Sam: "So we tell him the truth. You say Jesse's destined to go dark side, fine, but he hasn't yet. So if we lay it all out for him; what he is, the apocalypse, everything - he might make the right choice."

Castiel, in angry righteous mode: "You didn't, and I can't take that chance."

This is exactly my problem with this show. Are the characters themselves so completely deluded or are the writers? Or are they trying to forget how things panned out in the past? When Sam was locked up, going cold turkey, Castiel released him. Why? Because he was being manipulated when he believed he was doing the right thing, which is all that Sam was guilty of, and it's this kind of double standard that's doing my head in. And I don't think it's a flaw with Castiel, at this point, I do think it's in the writing: it's like they want us to forget. Sam didn't have all the facts laid out for him because the angels liked to deal in half-truths and mystery. There's a reason why Lucifer emphasises that he never lies - because, it seems, he's the only one who doesn't! How am I supposed to swallow this skewed morality that's being forced down my throat? I'm sick of it!]

[Crusader]

..., and it's this kind of double standard that's doing my head in.

It is a show for an American audience... so they are used to double standards ;)

[Droo]

5x10

[That was the hardest thing to watch in the entire show. The moment at the end, when she realises she's gone before her, it killed me. Absolutely heartbreaking!]

[Kara Hawkins]

5x10

^ Seconded.

[Seriously though, that was just... ugh. Ellen and Jo have been two of my absolute favorite characters and watching them go out like that was just... wow. I'd love to comment about the rest of the ep (Crowley seeming like he'll be a really interesting character, Lucifer and Sam speaking, "Clarence" sass) but that whole setup/scene just overshadows everything. I kinda wish they'd break up things like that because there was a lot of interesting moments in this episode but I get the feeling when I look back on it I'll only remember Jo and Ellen's final moments.

I do kinda find it amusing that somehow the Supernatural writers make me seem like I'm actually kind to my characters in comparison. Ha ha...]

[Lilaena De'Ville]

5x10

[That was the hardest thing to watch in the entire show. The moment at the end, when she realises she's gone before her, it killed me. Absolutely heartbreaking!]told you to keep watching!

[Droo]

5X14

[Dean, upon being hugged by a big naked cupid: "Is this a fight? Are we in a fight?"

Castiel: "This is... their handshake."

Dean: "I don't like it."

Castiel: "No-one likes it."]

I shouldn't be watching this at 3am, it's not good for other people's sleeping patterns. :lol

6x01

Wow. What a truly terrible episode. As brilliant as the Season 5 finale was, this is at the opposite end of the spectrum. That I've gone directly into 6 following 5 only serves to make the difference in quality glaring. That said, I feel sorry for those who waited all that time, back when this episode first aired. I'm so disappointed by it. Honestly, I feel it should come with a warning or something. What a mess.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Season six does come with a warning.

It's coming in after wrapping up a sensational five year plan. It falters and missteps, but there are good episodes in here, so don't stop watching, just suffer through it. You made it through the beginning of season 1 after all, right? This is like another season 1.

[Emelie Shadowstar]

Season 5 finale...

[Fffffffffffffffffffffffff.... I can't even begin to process this episode. I'm not sure what I'm WTFing over more - the fact I'm pretty sure Chuck has been "God" all along, Sam's sudden reappearance... or the entire emotional rollercoaster they just shove you through the entire time. I like how it did feel like an "ending" though...and the little blurbs about the Impala and it's importance and history and such was pretty awesome. Not sure where the show will go from here as I've heard that Season 6 is a bit awkward... but just wow. What a way to end an arc.]

[Droo]

Season 6 definately has its bright spots. There's a Bobby-centric episode early on, it's great, and I'd really like to see more of those. There's (spoilery ramblings for 6x01-6x09) [more Crowley, and more Crowley is always a good thing. There's loads of humour, particularly with the new Sam situation, and a few bonkers episodes ("Fight the fairies!") which had me laughing out loud. I also enjoyed the shameless Twilight bashing in the episode featuring vampires. I'm a bit meh about the idea of Crowley pulling Sam from Lucifer's prison, it's too convenient, considering all the stuff with the breaking of the seals in the fourth series. I'm not a fan of Samuel, either. His character thus far hasn't interested me. I thought he was great in the flashbacks, but there just doesn't seem to be much more to him other than being a gruff and secretive hunter.]

[Emelie Shadowstar]

6x01

[I've gotta admit, I don't see what all the fuss was about. I mean Sam being back is kinda a given - they showed us that at the end of season 5 and I'm glad we addressed the fact that yes, he's been around the entire damn time and just wanted Dean to have a normal life. The fact Bobby was keen to that fact doesn't surprise me either to be honest.
The reintroduction of Samuel and apparently some cousins was a bit jarring... but again, not entirely out of place ALL things considered. It's nice to introduce some family that are from Mom's side, I think....even if Grandpa being back and all normal seems a bit odd to me.
I liked the fact the Djinn made some reference to their father - who I guess is the Djinn who was responsible for 2x20 so that was a nice throwback to the fact that other things they've done have consequences, not just the giant huge overall plot of the Apocalypse.
...really at the end of Season 5 (and the fact I'm simultaneously watching Seasons 1-2 with the boyfriend) I actually WANTED to just go back to a season of "Saving people, hunting things." so if that's what this ends up being, I will be a happy person since I think a return to the "beginning" isn't a bad way to start a new chapter in the Winchesters lives. Shame it just has to fuck up Dean actually getting a semi normal life, I guess. Yeah Sam drove away at the end of the ep but we know Dean will get dragged back in somehow... The two of them together facing whatever monsters/end of the world shit... that's kinda the whole damn show, isn't it?
It's also nice to see Sam kinda willing to stand on his own(ish) after season 5's big thing. He's ...different. Though he said he was in hell...but apparently not that long? So that's kinda interesting but we already know that hell has a skewed time-frame compared to "earth" time so I wouldn't be surprised at all to find that "the cage" is even worse than the Month = 10 years thing that Dean went through.

...I dunno, It's different... but it kinda has to be, the way I saw it. One major storyline is over, done. Time for something new but with the same characters. I look forward to seeing how this progresses and what they do with it. It might be a bit off, but I think that might be a welcome change to the heaviness that was Season 5 that left me feeling bummed out after almost every episode.

Of course thinking that I'll get away without feeling severely bummed at the end of some episodes here in the very near future is just silly. We do have to find out what happened to Sam in hell and how he escaped and what the consequences of that are, I'm guessing. :uhoh]

[Droo]

6x01

[From a story perspective, it was no surprise that Sam would be back, or that things would be simpler. Big story arc or not, each season has the traditional "Saving people, hunting things," stuff running throughout, and that's fine, too - you can't keep serving up non-stop epic stories. But for me, the problem was that the episode felt all over the place. First of all, the stuff with Samuel and the Djinn could've gone entirely, allowing the episode to instead focus on Dean and his family, Bobby, and Sam. That's where the drama is, after all. The other stuff could've been introduced in the next episode, it just got in the way, and because there was so much to muddle through it consequently all fell flat for me. Here's Dean and his family. Here's a monster. Here's Sam, back from the dead. Obligatory Bobby. Then, oh wait, here's Samuel and a bunch of other peripheral characters, and more monsters. It was so bloated structurally, rolling from one thing to the next, that nothing was really allowed to sink in and have time to breathe.

During the episode itself, there were several times when I noticed problems with the editing, and that's never happened before. Some moments were just so choppy that the issues drew attention to themselves. And regardless of it being the start of a new season and story arc, this episode was still rolling off the tide of a massive finale, and instead of acknowledging that, the whole thing appeared to be doing its best to ignore it and instead distract its audience with a load of meandering guff. Maybe they were being ambitious, but that episode is anything but simple, and that's the problem. Too much stuff was getting in the way, when it should've been boiled down to the bare essentials for kick-starting a new story arc. If anything, I think they should've saved the Samuel reveal for a cliff-hanger ending, giving the audience a new mystery to ponder over until the next episode.

Anyway, I'm glad you were able to enjoy it, but I still maintain it was a rubbish episode and a terrible way to start a new season.]

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Season 8, episode... Uh... 14ish? And fifteen, or whatever. That middle part there.

[I am loving the whole Men of Letters/Judah Initiative/Thule(nazi necromancers) story. I hope we see a lot more of Aaron and his golem, which was completely awesome. The tests to close the gates of Hell seem like a good overarching story hook also, a lot better than, say, the Leviathan.

The MoL secret base and Dean and his Very Own a Room with Memory Foam Mattress (tm) is just perfect. I hope it doesn't get all screwed up because they deserve a kick ass secret base.]

[Droo]

6x22

[The finale took a surprising turn at the last hurdle. I knew Castiel was heading down a bad path but yikes! Crowley keeps stealing every scene he's in. Balthazar, too. Castiel giving him the old angel blade is one of the suckiest things I've seen in the show. Up there with Lucifer killing Gabriel last season. Can't wait to see where this evil god Castiel story goes.]

[Droo]

8x01 (with Season 7 ramblings)

[Off to a promising start. Picking up on the whole Kevin the prophet and the words of god stuff from the previous season. Speaking of which, I was glad to see the back of Season 7 and its Leviathan plotline. Getting through the second half of that season took some effort. It started off with such promise and there was great potential, but in the end, the big bad felt like monster-of-the-week material with an intolerable head honcho. Dick was a dick.

I was expecting a chronological leap, and, as usual, it presents a whole host of unanswered questions. There's a whole lot more to what's been going on with both Sam and Dean in the past year, and I'm eager to know more. Then there's the Castiel mystery, and Dean's new friend, who, whether good or bad, looks like he's going to be an enjoyable character. And speaking of enjoyable characters, it looks like Crowley isn't going anywhere, and you won't get any complaints from me. I have a good feeling about this season, and I have a feeling it won't be long 'til I'm all caught up!]

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Oh no you've almost caught up to me! :uhoh