Loklorien s'Ilancy
Nov 25th, 2004, 09:41:32 AM
I've sat back and watched enough. It's time now that I come into this as not only a part of what is goin on, but as Admin of these forums as well. Keep in mind that I will be handling this with mostly an admin attitude and so do not construe what I say to be me acting like a bitch. I am performing my duties and services as overseer of what goes on here, plain as day.
I've put this in Stratcom so that you two [Matt and Andrew] and I can work through this. Yes, this is between both factions and those who are a part of them, but I want to talk to you guys, the leaders of said factions.
Now.
I've known for a while now that the Sovereignty and the Federacy have been talking about uniting to reform the Empire proper, and while I am glad these talks have come about, I also know that time must be dedicated to this - it cannot be done overnight and at the snap of someone's fingers. Yes, the split happened rather quickly, but that in no way means that the reformation of factions must happen the same way. In fact, it simply CAN NOT happen as such. Destroying a house is simple, and done in almost no time at all. However, rebuilding that house takes alot of planning, revising, and correcting. Plans must be drawn out, the foundation must be built, the structure and support must be put into place - everything must be done in order so as not to create a weak base which, at the first instance of disagreement, will crumble once more to leave you with a pile of rubble. And I know that you all have dedicated too much time and effort to see that happen.
This is what I have been given thus far in regards to something that is solidly written down. Any included italicized words are my own thoughts and notes.
Stage 1 : Non-agression pact. Border recognition. Trade agreements, which leads to opening the border. Then cross border defence co-operation and policing. - This very well could possibly come as a result of Andrew's It's War (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37321) thread. I very much like the idea of the Fritehl (I hope to God I spelled it right this time), and I can certainly see them as being a possibly new shared enemy . Perhaps they can have an alliance with Terrisz'Voss due to the already bad blood shared between TV and the Sov.
Stage 2 : Alliance of mutual defence. This would seem to be the official announcement of the two factions working in conjuction to ward off their new shared enemy - as the thoughts on stage 1 would more than likely come about out of necessity.
Stage 3 : Commission for Military Co-ordination As the Fritehl continue their attacks, this could be an official proclomation to help assuage any fear of Imperial citizens - that two of the most powerful Impieral factions have agreed to work together in order to protect the people.
Stage 4 : A treaty of shared interest I figure it would be safe to think that the two factions - Sov and Fed - have started to realize that if they were to unify, they would rally any other smaller warlords and factions to their cause and begin to rebuild the Empire of old.
Stage 5 : Treaty of unification. As with the defense treaty, this would more than likely be the official seal stating that the two factions have become one for all intents and purposes.
- the first one can be done after bestine.
Stage 6 : Border recognition is automartic.
Stage 7 : Trade gets going and the governments regulate it with a treaty. It would be a natural extension to encourage the peoples of each faction to begin interacting. However, while this unification is still somewhat in its' infancy, there will have to be some regulating of those who trade - after all, Federacy citizens are taught to hate the Sovereignty, so this would be wonderful thread fodder for both parties involved to quell any certain "patriotic rebellions" that should no doubt come about.
Stage 8 : Then the border is opened and we have free movement of ships, people, goods. Once the people see that the two governments are serious about unifying - not to mention they have been able to see what happens when a person or group of persons defy these new events in regards to what will most undoubtedly happen in Stage 7 - they will be more willing to cooperate with eachother and establish stronger trade routes and trade relations, thus reinforcing the already military and political stitching with that of the unified masses.
- Which has to be protected- cross border policing
- By then we'll be working on the idea that what is in our interests is in their's too.
- So we agree to protect each other.
Stage 9 : Then we start co-ordinating out military efforts. A unified command structure emerges. Personally I think that this should be done in Stage 3, though as done before, this could very well be the official announcement to the citizens of the new Empire.
- By this point we are so intertwined that it is IC impossible to break us up and the OOC objections can go hang.
- It is inevitable after that unification goes ahead. Not to do so would be bad rping and no-one can stop us.
After watching everything that has happened thus far, I would like to add one more thing. The Empire was not just full of soldiers. It had its' share of politicians as well. Tiberious Anar personifies the Imperial politician and defines it to a T. I know you guys think he's being bossy and butting in, but here's the deal. He's introducing a balance into the inner structure of the Empire that hasn't been around for a very very long time. He's acting on politician's instincts, and frankly I admire that. It takes a lot of guts to do what this kid is doing, and he's not getting any thanks for it. He's taken the time to write out what he saw as a means to achieve unification not only fairly, but in a timeframe that will allow the foundation to become strong and flourish. He's trying to provide level-headed solutions for what is going on, and while I know you two aren't fond of the political aspect within the Empire, he is. All I ask is that he be treated with the respect he deserves.
I want any thoughts, ideas, or comments on this, as to be honest, they are needed. This needs to be finalized before any unification begins so that I don't have to watch the Empire fall to pieces around me.
I've put this in Stratcom so that you two [Matt and Andrew] and I can work through this. Yes, this is between both factions and those who are a part of them, but I want to talk to you guys, the leaders of said factions.
Now.
I've known for a while now that the Sovereignty and the Federacy have been talking about uniting to reform the Empire proper, and while I am glad these talks have come about, I also know that time must be dedicated to this - it cannot be done overnight and at the snap of someone's fingers. Yes, the split happened rather quickly, but that in no way means that the reformation of factions must happen the same way. In fact, it simply CAN NOT happen as such. Destroying a house is simple, and done in almost no time at all. However, rebuilding that house takes alot of planning, revising, and correcting. Plans must be drawn out, the foundation must be built, the structure and support must be put into place - everything must be done in order so as not to create a weak base which, at the first instance of disagreement, will crumble once more to leave you with a pile of rubble. And I know that you all have dedicated too much time and effort to see that happen.
This is what I have been given thus far in regards to something that is solidly written down. Any included italicized words are my own thoughts and notes.
Stage 1 : Non-agression pact. Border recognition. Trade agreements, which leads to opening the border. Then cross border defence co-operation and policing. - This very well could possibly come as a result of Andrew's It's War (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37321) thread. I very much like the idea of the Fritehl (I hope to God I spelled it right this time), and I can certainly see them as being a possibly new shared enemy . Perhaps they can have an alliance with Terrisz'Voss due to the already bad blood shared between TV and the Sov.
Stage 2 : Alliance of mutual defence. This would seem to be the official announcement of the two factions working in conjuction to ward off their new shared enemy - as the thoughts on stage 1 would more than likely come about out of necessity.
Stage 3 : Commission for Military Co-ordination As the Fritehl continue their attacks, this could be an official proclomation to help assuage any fear of Imperial citizens - that two of the most powerful Impieral factions have agreed to work together in order to protect the people.
Stage 4 : A treaty of shared interest I figure it would be safe to think that the two factions - Sov and Fed - have started to realize that if they were to unify, they would rally any other smaller warlords and factions to their cause and begin to rebuild the Empire of old.
Stage 5 : Treaty of unification. As with the defense treaty, this would more than likely be the official seal stating that the two factions have become one for all intents and purposes.
- the first one can be done after bestine.
Stage 6 : Border recognition is automartic.
Stage 7 : Trade gets going and the governments regulate it with a treaty. It would be a natural extension to encourage the peoples of each faction to begin interacting. However, while this unification is still somewhat in its' infancy, there will have to be some regulating of those who trade - after all, Federacy citizens are taught to hate the Sovereignty, so this would be wonderful thread fodder for both parties involved to quell any certain "patriotic rebellions" that should no doubt come about.
Stage 8 : Then the border is opened and we have free movement of ships, people, goods. Once the people see that the two governments are serious about unifying - not to mention they have been able to see what happens when a person or group of persons defy these new events in regards to what will most undoubtedly happen in Stage 7 - they will be more willing to cooperate with eachother and establish stronger trade routes and trade relations, thus reinforcing the already military and political stitching with that of the unified masses.
- Which has to be protected- cross border policing
- By then we'll be working on the idea that what is in our interests is in their's too.
- So we agree to protect each other.
Stage 9 : Then we start co-ordinating out military efforts. A unified command structure emerges. Personally I think that this should be done in Stage 3, though as done before, this could very well be the official announcement to the citizens of the new Empire.
- By this point we are so intertwined that it is IC impossible to break us up and the OOC objections can go hang.
- It is inevitable after that unification goes ahead. Not to do so would be bad rping and no-one can stop us.
After watching everything that has happened thus far, I would like to add one more thing. The Empire was not just full of soldiers. It had its' share of politicians as well. Tiberious Anar personifies the Imperial politician and defines it to a T. I know you guys think he's being bossy and butting in, but here's the deal. He's introducing a balance into the inner structure of the Empire that hasn't been around for a very very long time. He's acting on politician's instincts, and frankly I admire that. It takes a lot of guts to do what this kid is doing, and he's not getting any thanks for it. He's taken the time to write out what he saw as a means to achieve unification not only fairly, but in a timeframe that will allow the foundation to become strong and flourish. He's trying to provide level-headed solutions for what is going on, and while I know you two aren't fond of the political aspect within the Empire, he is. All I ask is that he be treated with the respect he deserves.
I want any thoughts, ideas, or comments on this, as to be honest, they are needed. This needs to be finalized before any unification begins so that I don't have to watch the Empire fall to pieces around me.