NFL Pick 'Em, Week 8

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota
Baltimore at Philadelphia
Green Bay at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston
Arizona at Buffalo
Detroit at Dallas
Cincinnati at Tennessee
Indianapolis at Kansas City


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver
Carolina at Seattle
New England at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego


Sunday Night

San Francisco at Chicago


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry vs. Bush


*If you pick the winner, you'll get a bonus point. If you get it wrong, it won't count against you, so it's like a free point if you get it right.


Bye Week: Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans, Tampa Bay


All picks must be in by 1PM Eastern on Sunday.

[Syren Wyssholt]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota (W)
Baltimore at Philadelphia (W)
Green Bay (W) at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston (W)
Arizona (W) at Buffalo
Detroit (W) at Dallas
Cincinnati (W) at Tennessee
Indianapolis (W) at Kansas City


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver (W)
Carolina at Seattle (W)
New England (W) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego (W)


Sunday Night

San Francisco (W) at Chicago


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets (W)


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry vs. Bush (W)

[Ryan Pode]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota Win
Baltimore Win at Philadelphia
Green Bay Win at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston Win
Arizona Win at Buffalo
Detroit Win at Dallas
Cincinnati Win at Tennessee
Indianapolis at Kansas City Win


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver Win
Carolina at Seattle Win
New England Win at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego Win


Sunday Night

San Francisco Win at Chicago


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets Win


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry Win vs. Bush


*If you pick the winner, you'll get a bonus point. If you get it wrong, it won't count against you, so it's like a free point if you get it right.


Bye Week: Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans, Tampa Bay

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Minnesota
Philadelphia
Green Bay
Houston
Arizona
Detroit
Cincinnati
Indianapolis


Denver
Seattle
Pittsburgh <----upset of the week.
San Diego


Chicago



NY Jets


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry

[JMK]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota (w)
Baltimore at Philadelphia (w)
Green Bay (w) at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston (w)
Arizona at Buffalo (w)
Detroit (w) at Dallas
Cincinnati at Tennessee (w)
Indianapolis at Kansas City (w)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver (w)
Carolina at Seattle (w)
New England (w) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego (w)


Sunday Night

San Francisco at Chicago (w)


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets (w)


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry vs. Bush (w)

[Cyrel Annat]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota (W)
Baltimore at Philadelphia (W)
Green Bay at Washington (W)
Jacksonville at Houston (W)
Arizona (W) at Buffalo
Detroit (W) at Dallas
Cincinnati (W) at Tennessee
Indianapolis (W) at Kansas City


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver (W)
Carolina at Seattle (W)
New England (W) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego (W)


Sunday Night

San Francisco at Chicago (W)


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets (W)


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry vs. Bush (W)

[Ryan Pode]

Originally posted by Nathanial K'cansce
Pittsburgh <----upset of the week.

Not an upset when a lot of people recognize it can happen. The upset of the week will be when the Ravens shut out the Eagles to win 2-0.

[darth_mcbain]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota (w)
Baltimore at Philadelphia (w)
Green Bay (w) at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston (w)
Arizona (w) at Buffalo
Detroit (w) at Dallas
Cincinnati at Tennessee (w)
Indianapolis (w) at Kansas City


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver (w)
Carolina at Seattle (w)
New England (w) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego (w)


Sunday Night

San Francisco (w) at Chicago


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets (w)


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry (w) vs. Bush

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota WIN
Baltimore at Philadelphia WIN
Green Bay WIN at Washington
Jacksonville WIN at Houston
Arizona WIN at Buffalo
Detroit WIN at Dallas
Cincinnati at Tennessee WIN
Indianapolis WIN at Kansas City


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver WIN
Carolina at Seattle WIN
New England WIN at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego WIN


Sunday Night

San Francisco WIN at Chicago


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets WIN


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry vs. Bush WIN

[jjwr]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota(W)
Baltimore at Philadelphia(W)
Green Bay(W) at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston(W)
Arizona at Buffalo(W)
Detroit at Dallas(W)
Cincinnati(W) at Tennessee
Indianapolis(W) at Kansas City


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver(W)
Carolina at Seattle(W)
New England(W) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego(W)

Sunday Night

San Francisco(W) at Chicago

Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets(W)

Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry(W) vs. Bush

[Jedieb]

Sunday, Early
(4-2) NY Giants at Minnesota (5-1) WIN
(4-2) Baltimore at Philadelphia (6-0) WIN
WIN (3-4) Green Bay at Washington (2-4)
WIN (5-2) Jacksonville at Houston (3-3)
(2-4) Arizona at Buffalo (1-5) WIN
(4-2) Detroit at Dallas (2-4) WIN
() Cincinnati at Tennessee (2-5) WIN
WIN (4-2) Indianapolis at Kansas City (2-4)

Sunday Late
(5-2) Atlanta at Denver () WIN
(1-5) Carolina at Seattle (3-3) WIN
(6-0) New England at Pittsburgh (5-1) WIN
(2-4) Oakland at San Diego (4-3) WIN
WIN (1-5) San Francisco at Chicago (1-5)

Monday Night
(1-5) Miami at NY Jets (5-1) WIN

[Jedi Master Carr]

NY Giants at Minnesota W
Baltimore at Philadelphia W
W Green Bay at Washington
W Jacksonville at Houston
W Arizona at Buffalo
W Detroit at Dallas
w Cincinnati at Tennessee
Indianapolis at Kansas City W


Sunday, Late

W Atlanta at Denver
Carolina at Seattle W
W New England at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego W


Sunday Night

San Francisco at Chicago W


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets W


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

W Kerry vs. Bush

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota (W)
Baltimore (W) at Philadelphia
Green Bay (W) at Washington
Jacksonville (W) at Houston
Arizona at Buffalo (W)
Detroit (W) at Dallas
Cincinnati (W) at Tennessee
Indianapolis at Kansas City (W)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver (W)
Carolina at Seattle (W)
New England (W) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego (W)


Sunday Night

San Francisco at Chicago (W)


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets (W)


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point

Kerry vs. Bush (W)

[Syren Wyssholt]

:crack :crack :crack HARSH!


We'd rather repeatedly impale ourselves on a rusty gate than recommend Boller for a fantasy start. He didn't even complete a pass in the second half last week, for cryin' out loud! It's news when he cracks triple digits, and the Ravens will be without their best pass-catcher yet again as Todd Heap is expected to sit this one out. Please, we implore you, run away.

Man, I wish I could be a sports analyst for fantasy football. :rollin

[Master Yoghurt]

Sunday, Early

NY Giants at Minnesota (W)
Baltimore at Philadelphia (W)
Green Bay (W) at Washington
Jacksonville at Houston (W)
Arizona (W) at Buffalo
Detroit (W) at Dallas
Cincinnati at Tennessee (W)
Indianapolis at Kansas City (W)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Denver (W)
Carolina at Seattle (W)
New England (W) at Pittsburgh
Oakland at San Diego (W)


Sunday Night

San Francisco at Chicago (W)


Monday Night

Miami at NY Jets (W)


Tuesday's Election Bonus Point*

Kerry (W) vs. Bush

[jjwr]

Thats funny Syren!

Very creative writer. He's right though, the Ravens offense is pretty scary how bad it is with Lewis, heck with Lewis its not great.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Man, this week is sucking already for me. At least Buf is winning. Even though I didn't pick them. :(

[Cyrel Annat]

Perhaps the Vikings will start their downward spiral a little earlier than usual. Guess we'll see next week when they play the Colts. And yeah, I think about the only pick I got right this week was that they are all, in fact, playing football.

[Master Yoghurt]

Yeah, the Vikings are doing depressingly poor right now. I should have smelt the upset.

[Cyrel Annat]

And another INT for Culpepper.

KC's offense is alive and well for the second time this year, though the Colts' defense isn't exactly solid. And Houston once again playing tough against a superior opponent.

[Jedieb]

Kerry wins the Presidency! :crack

Meanwhile, the Colts and Chiefs are trying their best to rack up 1,100 yards of offense.

[Cyrel Annat]

Well, either one of them just about doubled the total output of both Buffalo and Arizona, unless Buffalo got some novelty yardage in the last few minutes.

Edit: Unofficially, 1097 total offensive yards between the two teams. Does not include return yardage. Unofficially since I added up everything on the recap page.

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Jedieb
Kerry wins the Presidency! :crack


lol... Kerry fanboy. :p

The thing is... if there was ever a year to break trends and streaks, it's this year, considering what the Red Sox did.

[Cyrel Annat]

And on another note, 14-3 Steelers towards the end of the first quarter.

[Ryan Pode]

Originally posted by Syren Wyssholt




We'd rather repeatedly impale ourselves on a rusty gate than recommend Boller for a fantasy start. He didn't even complete a pass in the second half last week, for cryin' out loud! It's news when he cracks triple digits, and the Ravens will be without their best pass-catcher yet again as Todd Heap is expected to sit this one out. Please, we implore you, run away. :crack :crack :crack HARSH!



Man, I wish I could be a sports analyst for fantasy football. :rollin

He played very well today. Considering he was without his top two weapons and John Ogden.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

21-3 steelers. INT returned 39 yards for a td!!

[Jedieb]

Boller sucks. To be even more brutal, he's no Trent Dilfer. :evil He may develop into a solid QB, but it's years away.

Man, the Steelers are pasting the Pats. It was bound to happen sooner or later. Great run by the Pats, and if any team has a shot to come back from a devastating first half like this, it's them. Nothing to panic about. It's great news for Steelers fans. They look amazing. Rothletshaveaburger is amazing. He checks off receivers like a vet. Unlike another young QB ............

[jjwr]

LOL, great nick name Jedieb!

Agreed, Boller sucks!

As for the Pats, 24-10 at half, first possesion I felt they had a great shot at it then they fumbled first play. D'oh! Basically their good luck over 21 games is catching up to them, very un-Pats like game.

Course Dillon is out and against a quality defense like the Steelers they really needed him as they've got nobody on the bench who can run.

Steelers up 31-10 now, again uncharacteristic game for the Pats. I would have rather them lose a close one then a game like this but what are you gonna do :)

That being said these are the Pats, I'm not gonna count them out just yet ;)

[Jedieb]

This happens to every team. It just shows how remakable their winning streak was that they avoided these kinds of games for over a year.


lol... Kerry fanboy.

The thing is... if there was ever a year to break trends and streaks, it's this year, considering what the Red Sox did.
Yes, but the Sox winning is nothing but good luck for Kerry. They're his team! ;) Thank you Green Bay and the Redskin who who went in motion on that TD to Portis! Sadly, I expect RNC and DNC lawyers are preparing legal briefs to argue the call in front of the Supreme Court on Monday.

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL Jedieb they might. About KC I think they are finally playing like last season and with Denver losing they can get back in the race. If Denver loses they are only one game back now and their schedule gets easier. Only two hard teams in New England and Denver left and both are home games. I think they can come back and still win that division.

[jjwr]

LOL, I could just see it now, I call to action the case of Portis vs the Referee's.

Ick...Pats lose another player...this isn't good!

Yeah it happens, just about every team has laid a egg this year, some more than one(ala Colts, Rams, etc) so its not the end of the world.

[Cyrel Annat]

Ayup, and Denver's starting their downward turn as well. I've never seen so many friggin penalties on the offense. Especially the line. You got a 7-play drive that is actually four plays because they got three penalties.

On an aside, what is the deal with Branch's knee? (Aimed towards Pats fans). I'm about to dump him entirely from my fantasy team because it doesn't seem like he's ever coming back. Did they simply chop his leg off and not bother to tell anyone? Same goes for Heap. Are these guys just gonna sit out the entire year?

[Jedi Master Carr]

The Broncos season went down when they lost Griffin. They have no running game now, which just kills them.

[Figrin D'an]

Drew Brees has 5 TD passes today for San Diego. :)

He's gonna be a great position to land a nice free agent contract after the season is over if he keeps playing as he as thus far. There will be pressure in San Diego for Phillip Rivers to be the starter next year, and there will be some teams who will want Brees' services.

[jjwr]

No idea Cyrel, it didn't seem that bad when he got it but he's been out since then and they've released no info on when he'll be back.

Pats really need him too, he's their best receiver, which considering the start(6-0) without their top receiver they've been doing ok without him.

[jjwr]

Pats are folding, come back with a FG and then let the Steelers push them all the way down the field and eat 8 minutes of clock.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well it had to end sometime. They still are in command of that division and homefield right now.

[jjwr]

Oh yeah, I'm not worried, they've got a tough stretch coming up but their last 6 games are looking really easy.

They need to get healthy though, without Dillon they're lost , they have no valid backup and in this game never even tried, totally different team.

Thats ok though, its a long season, no one goes un-deafeted anymore :)

As for the other un-defeated team the Eagles...are these quite possibly the most un-impressive 7-0 team in a while? No offense Ryan but as bad as the Eagles have been playing if they played a team with even a average offense(ie the Browns) then they would have lost today.

[jjwr]

Berger runs for 4 yards on a busted play, says everything about this game :)

As they said it would take a perfect game to beat the Pats and the Steelers are playing it, they're impressive, not necessary the QB but their O-Line is mauling the Pats and opening up huge holes. I can't wait to see these guys beat the Eagles next week :)

[Cyrel Annat]

Oddly enough, the Browns gave them a hell of a run last weekend (I think, or the week before). Doing just enough to win for the most part, which is all that matters but it does make one wonder.

As for Denver, Droughns has 3 straight 100+ yard rushing games going into today. Now, the game is placed on Plummer's shoulders to carry the entire team. If he can stay calm in these situations - which he has managed in Denver - it can work. Will it? No clue, but he's got them on the verge of scoring again. If the bloody defense can get one more stop in them, there's a chance. I've followed Plummer's career since he entered the league and he is most capable of mounting comebacks, considering that he had quite a few with the hapless Cardinals. In Denver, he's had what he's needed, a team surrounding him that can play and a line that generally doesn't leave him to the wolves. Granted, I am real worried that KC is going to get into a groove like they did last year. Perhaps it just took them a while to finally get the pieces to work.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I was hoping NE would stay unbeaten until they played KC on Monday night because I thought it be a heck of a game and great drama. Still should be a great game considering how KC is now playing.

[Cyrel Annat]

And as I type that, they come up short. Now, the D needs to play tough.

[Cyrel Annat]

The only good that can come from this day is for Vinatieri to get one more FG or XP so I can hit 200 in fantasy this week.

[jjwr]

LOL...whatever works for you Cyrel :)

I'd say great game, but only on one side :) Steelers were impressive, no doubt about it.

Pats were flat, 4 Turnovers, pourus defense, I'm not taking anything away from the Steelers but this isn't your typical Pats team.

I betcha Belechick isn't terribly unhappy about this though, he'll use it as a message to his team that the streak is over, they're not as good as they thought they were, etc...he'll be loving this :)

[Jedi Master Carr]

About KC I think there early season problems was their WR were all hurt. Morton and Kennison were hurt all training camp and now they are finally 100% and in groove with Green. They help open it up for Gonzalez. He is now getting his catches. He is more open than he was to start the year.

[Ryan Pode]

Give Kyle Boller: Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress and Antwon Randle El, and he'd been hellagood too.

[jjwr]

Who does Brady have? It takes more than good receivers.

As for KC, problem is their defense is still bad, just like last year they can put up a ton of points but if they can't stop anybody?

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
Give Kyle Boller: Hines Ward, Plaxico Burress and Antwon Randle El, and he'd been hellagood too.

It's not all the WRs. Roethlisberger has excellent patience and pocket awareness for a rookie, and unlike many young QB's, he moves through his progression very quickly and finds the open man. If you notice, he rarely tried to force anything. He has the cannon arm to go deep at any time, but he doesn't push things when they aren't there, and will simply check the ball down to a back or tight end when that's all that is available.

Granted, Boller doesn't have the talent and depth at WR to work with that Roethlisberger does, but there are inherent differences between the two that can be seen sans the wideout factor.

Right now, Roethisberger has to be the top Rookie of the Year candidate.

[Ryan Pode]

Originally posted by jjwr
Who does Brady have? It takes more than good receivers.


Brady also sat a year behind Drew Bledsoe, who was/is a good QB. I still don't think Rothlesberger is that good, so he has extreme beginners luck. Raven's beat 'im.

[Syren Wyssholt]

And Boller has 3 TD's and 6 interceptions. Boller's in his second year now and isn't really improving.

[Jedieb]

Roethletshaveaburger is clearly one of the best rookie QB's the league has seen in years. He's going through progressions, he's not making mistakes, and he's pretty much guaranteed we've seen the end of the Tommy Maddux era in Pittsburg.

The Eagles look very solid. Their defense has played much better than I expected after losing their corners in the offseason. Owens makes that offense complete. They're probably going to go 13-3 and find themselves back in the NFC championship game. If they make it back there, I think McNabb now has what he needs to get him over this last hurdle. Plus, I just don't see anyone in the NFC right now to challenge them. It's early, but they simply the best the NFC has to offer now.

And did everyone see Owens mocking Ray Lewis with that TD dance. Man what a bitter pill to swallow. Not as bitter as the ones I've had to endure these last couple of weeks, but I'm glad to see others suffer as well. :evil

[Jedi Master Carr]

Atlanta is about the next best team. With Vick they are dangerous. As for KC I think their defense is better than last year. I think they rank 18th right now or something. Is that good enough to go to the SB I don't know. But it might be enough to get them into the playoffs and maybe finally win a game.

[Jedieb]

During the game, I heard them say that KC's defense was ranked 9th, which STUNNED me. They're definitely playing better. With Denver hitting the skids they may still have a shot.

Damn, if I'd known Dorsey was starting I never would have gone with the Niners on the road. My sister's got a stronger arm. How the hell is this reject collecting a paycheck in the NFL?

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
Brady also sat a year behind Drew Bledsoe, who was/is a good QB. I still don't think Rothlesberger is that good, so he has extreme beginners luck. Raven's beat 'im.

You're wearing your Raven's tinted glasses again methinks, but whatever. Many NFL scouts said Roethlisberger was the best QB prospect in the draft last year, heads and shoulders better than both Rivers and Eli Manning, but he didn't go as high as those two because he played at Miami of Ohio in college and people questioned the competition he played against (which is a silly reason, IMO).

It's not like anyone is dubbing him the greatest QB ever. But it's hard to not be impressed by what he has accomplished thusfar.

[Cyrel Annat]

I think that one of the biggest assets for Roethlisberger is the fact that his team has confidence in him and his ability. Sure, he's gonna get rattled and make mistakes. But no one doubts his ability. I think it was Hines Ward - possibly someone else since it's been a few weeks since I heard this - said that during one of the huddles towards the end of the half (or game, again not quite certain), that he called the play for Roethlisberger since the nerves were kicking in a bit. Granted, that's simply smart football to keep your team going, but to me, it's a sign that they trust their QB and will help him along in any way that they can.

Nothing personal against Boller, but I don't think that the Ravens have that kind of confidence in him. And as far as giving him receivers, Dan Marino had crap for receivers in Miami and no running game at all. No, I'm not comparing Boller or Roethlisberger to Marino, but it's not the receivers that make the QB in many cases. There are times when the QB and his ability make the receivers and make the team go.

[Cyrel Annat]

And as long as I'm at it, 499 yards, 4 TDs and 3 INTs marks a career day for Plummer, despite the loss of the game itself. Were it not for Manning's huge day with less INTs and 20-some odd yards less in passing, Plummer could be up for player of the week.

[jjwr]

499 Yards for Plummer? WTF! Manning dropped almost 500 as well and a few guys in the high 300's. I wonder if this is a result of the new calls in the secondary or more talented WR's?

As for Burger, he's been down right impressive this year, admittedly he went into a good situation and didn't get thrown to the wolves like most high round QB's do, he's got a pair of great WR's, good RB, etc, but he's making the most of it. I don't recall where it was but one of the Steelers was saying 1st Snap, 1st Pass he threw this year was a INT so they all kind of a had "uh oh" feeling but he turned it around.

Re: Boller...Ryan I understand your a fan but you gotta take those Purple tinted glasses off on occasion. The guy isn't all he was cracked up to, it happens, live with it. Fact is that Bilick was supposed to be some great Offensive coach but they've yet to have a good balanced offense in the years he's been there. The SB year it was a incredible good defense. As you witnessed a few years later the team did poorly when Lewis went down, without the defense to carry it the team sucks, Jamal Lewis or not.

Chiefs vs Pats should still be fun. I have no doubt the Pats will move the ball on the Chiefs, the question is how much will the chiefs move it on the Pats. The Rams game next week should be a good indication of how things will work. Though if the Pats don't get Dillon back their in trouble. About 2:30 yesterday I saw the headline that Dillon was out and I said Uh Oh...very bad way to head into such a tough game.

[JMK]

Roethlesberger has been great so far. Does anyone else see parallels between this Steelers team and the Pats in '01 when Brady took over for Bledsoe? Ben steps in for Tommy and goes undefeated under a defensive guru? I can see Pittsburgh being a big surprise in the AFC this year.

[jjwr]

Good points JMK, the scarry thing is the Steelers have better receivers and a better RB than the Pats had :)

That being said...something about the Steelers, they're good but I don't see them going to the SB. I'm wondering if they can keep up with a team like KC who drops 28 a half. Berger is good but in that kind of situation he may start to force balls he hasn't needed to otherwise. So far they've all been close or ahead. Take yesterday's game for example, in a few places Brady was pressured and forced bad throws. Had they not been down 21 at the time he wouldn't have made those throws. So I'm curious how they'll react when put into that position.

[Ryan Pode]

:( Boller will be good. Mark my words.


On Rothlesberger: Yeah, he's good. And his first pass was returned 50 yards for a TD by Chris McAlister.

[jjwr]

Yeah, and he's still better than Boller is right now.

As for Boller, I read something interesting on him, in the 2nd half of the game he started playing better and the guys on CNNSI were saying maybe its time they actually let him try and play and see what he does, sink or swim they've gotta see if he's the QB of the future.

Course it would help if Heap & Lewis were both back.

[Jedieb]

Yet another reason why I'm glad MeShauwn Johnson is no longer a Buccaneer.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1913928

Pam Oliver caught MeShauwn yelling at a Cowboys assisntant coach. MeShauwn responded by saying she was lying and that she should be "spanked." The best part was Oliver's response:

When asked what she would do if Johnson tried to spank her, "I will punch him in the face," Oliver told the newspaper.

[jjwr]

Wow do the Dolphins suck.

On the bright side they're looking at a nice high pick!

[Ryan Pode]

The Dolphins need a ground game.

I was looking at QB Ratings and Kyle Boller is above A.J Feely, Trent Dilfer, Carson Palmer, Jay Fielder, Kerry Collins, and is just under Steve McNair last years best QB (by rating).

[jjwr]

So what your is saying is you'd rather have Boller than McNair? If thats not what your saying then whats the point?

QB rating is a flawed formula. Roethlesberger has a huge rating, higher than most QB's, but would you take him over Payton Manning? McNabb? Culpepper?

[JMK]

My Dolphins need a new everything.

While this season has been an embarassment to Dolphin fans, I can't wait for it to end so that Wannstedt can be summarily dismissed.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I feel for you JMK. They have just had a bad season. About Mcnair he has been hurt this year so his QB rating is not as good because of that. The rest of the names those QB's are mostly bad starters and backups. Two of them are the Dolphin dud duo.

[JMK]

I was just reading the day after columns from the Miami area, boy are they crushing Wannstedt and GM Rick Speilman.

From weeks 1-4 there was anger at the team for sucking.

From 5-7 there was nothing much there, they knew the season was a total loss

Week 8 brought everyone's ire back to the forefront.

Read these 2 paragraphs by Dan LeBatard in today's Miami Herald:



The 2004 Dolphins are a doomed ship, the NFL's Titanic. But captains Wannstedt and Spielman keep trying to keep it from sinking even though they are armed with nothing more than paper cups. Wannstedt, trying to preserve his job and not caring about the future of this franchise, keeps playing Fiedler even though Fiedler hasn't been the answer for the past four years, wasn't the answer on this night and certainly isn't the answer in a future that won't include Wannstedt.

DISTANCING

Spielman will try to distance himself from Wannstedt now, but he has somehow been worse than Wannstedt with personnel, which is not an easy thing to do. Wannstedt at least found Chris Chambers and Randy McMichael. There is not one decision Spielman has made, not a single one, that has helped the Dolphins in any appreciable way.


What a freakin mess.

[jjwr]

Ouch...those boys are doomed.

Why aren't they playing Rosenfels? At least give the kid a shot and see if he's got anything as its pretty darn unlikely F & F will be back next year.

[JMK]

Well they gave up a lot for Feeley. They're going to have to test him to see what he can do. Rosenfels hasn't been given a shot because Wannstedt has clearly been concerned with saving his job rather than planning for the team's future.

[Ryan Pode]

Well, at least the 'Fins should have the #1 pick to get a good RB.

[JMK]

The problem is that I have absolutely no faith in the Dolphins organization to make the right pick with their draft choices.

The Eagles must be happy right now, the more the Dolphins lose, the better their draft position, and the Eagles are getting the Dolphins' first pick in the second round for Feeley, so they may get to have the first choice of the second round. The way things are going, the Eagles could have back to back picks. Wouldn't that be nice?

[Figrin D'an]

okay, with the election finally over, I can post this weeks results...


Week 8 Results

Syren Wyssholt: 7-8
Ryan Pode: 6-8
Nathanial K'cansce: 8-6
JMK: 11-4
Cyrel Annat: 7-8
McBain: 7-7
Lilaena De'Ville: 7-8
jjwr: 8-6
Jedieb: 9-5
Jedi Master Carr: 8-6
Figrin D'an: 8-7
Yoghurt: 9-5

*Note: Not everyone has comparable combined wins/losses this week because of the Election Bonus Point.



Updated Season Totals

Yoghurt: 76-40
Nathanial K'cansce: 73-43
Cyrel Annat: 72-45
Jedieb: 71-45
jjwr: 69-47
Figrin D'an: 67-50
Lilaena De'Ville: 64-53
JMK: 63-54
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Syren Wyssholt: 62-54
Jedi Master Carr: 59-43
Ryan Pode: 53-47
Darth McBain: 52-50
Darth Sauron: 11-5
Drake Shadowstalker: 11-5
Reaperfett: 11-5
Lucian Belial: 11-3
Sarr Koon: 10-4

[JMK]

Finally a good week!

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Dern!

Yoghurt is slipping through my grasps. ><

[James Prent]

thank God for the bonus point. ^_^; JMK is breathing down my neck. :(

[JMK]

Don't worry LD, I'll keep my seat in the basement warm for ya! ;)