NFL Pick 'Em, Week 4

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
Indianapolis at Jacksonville
Oakland at Houston
New England at Buffalo
Philadelphia at Chicago
Washington at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina
New Orleans at Arizona
NY Jets at Miami
Tennessee at San Diego
Denver at Tampa Bay


Sunday Night

St. Louis at San Francisco


Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore


Bye Week: Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Seattle

All picks must be submitted by 1PM Eastern on Sunday.

[Jedieb]

Sunday, Early
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh WIN
WIN Indianapolis at Jacksonville
WIN New England at Buffalo
N.Y. Giants at Green Bay WIN
WIN Oakland at Houston
WIN Philadelphia at Chicago
WIN Washington at Cleveland

Sunday Late
Atlanta at Carolina WIN
WIN New Orleans at Arizona
WIN Denver at Tampa Bay
WIN N.Y. Jets at Miami
WIN Tennessee at San Diego

Sunday Night
WIN St. Louis at San Francisco

Monday Night
Kansas City at Baltimore WIN

[Syren Wyssholt]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati (W) at Pittsburgh
Indianapolis (W) at Jacksonville
Oakland at Houston (W)
New England (W) at Buffalo
Philadelphia (W) at Chicago
Washington (W) at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay (W)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta (W) at Carolina
New Orleans (W) at Arizona
NY Jets (W) at Miami
Tennessee (W) at San Diego
Denver (W) at Tampa Bay


Sunday Night

St. Louis at San Francisco (W)


Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore (W)

[Ryan Pode]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Win
Indianapolis Win at Jacksonville
Oakland Win at Houston
New England at Buffalo Win
Philadelphia Win at Chicago
Washington Win at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay Win


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina
New Orleans Win at Arizona
NY Jets Win at Miami
Tennessee Win at San Diego
Denver at Tampa Bay Win


Sunday Night

St. Louis Win at San Francisco


Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore Win


Bye Week: Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota, Seattle

I smell career day in Baltimore.

[jjwr]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh(W)
Indianapolis(W) at Jacksonville
Oakland at Houston(W)
New England(W) at Buffalo
Philadelphia(W) at Chicago
Washington(W) at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay(W)

Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina(W)
New Orleans(W) at Arizona
NY Jets(W) at Miami
Tennessee(W) at San Diego
Denver at Tampa Bay(W)

Sunday Night

St. Louis(W) at San Francisco

Monday Night

Kansas City(W) at Baltimore

[JMK]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (w)
Indianapolis (w) at Jacksonville
Oakland at Houston (w)
New England at Buffalo (w)
Philadelphia (w) at Chicago
Washington (w) at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay (w)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina (w)
New Orleans at Arizona (w)
NY Jets (w) at Miami
Tennessee (w) at San Diego
Denver (w) at Tampa Bay


Sunday Night

St. Louis (w) at San Francisco


Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore (w)

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Sunday, Early

Pittsburgh
Indianapolis
Oakland
New England
Philadelphia
Washington
Green Bay


Sunday, Late

Atlanta
New Orleans
NY Jets
Tennessee
Denver


Sunday Night

St. Louis


Monday Night
Baltimore

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Posting this seperate as to not get it confused with my picks.

Yoghurt did make his picks (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36844) for this week in another thread, and asked for someone to post them here. Just doing that since no one else has.

Week 4 picks

Cincinatti at Pitsburg (W)
Indianapolis (W) at Jacksonville
New England (W) at Buffalo
NY Giants at Green Bay (W)
Oakland at Houston (W)
Philadelfia (W) at Chicago
Washington (W) at Cleveland

Atlanta (W) at Carolina
New Orleans (W) at Arizona
Tennesee at San Diego (W)
Denver (W) at Tampa Bay
NY Jets (W) at Miami

St Louis at San Francisco (W)

Kansas City at Baltimore (W)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh WIN
Indianapolis WIN at Jacksonville
Oakland WIN at Houston
New England WINat Buffalo
Philadelphia WIN at Chicago
Washington at Cleveland WIN
NY Giants at Green Bay WIN

Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina WIN
New Orleans WIN at Arizona
NY Jets at Miami WIN
Tennessee WIN at San Diego
Denver WIN at Tampa Bay

Sunday Night

St. Louis at San Francisco WIN (please!)

Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore WIN

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Nathanial K'cansce
Posting this seperate as to not get it confused with my picks.

Yoghurt did make his picks (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36844) for this week in another thread, and asked for someone to post them here. Just doing that since no one else has.


Roger roger. I had made a note of his picks, but it probably is a good idea to have them posted here. Thanks for transferring them over.

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (W)
Indianapolis (W) at Jacksonville
Oakland (W) at Houston
New England (W) at Buffalo
Philadelphia (W) at Chicago
Washington (W) at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay (W)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina (W)
New Orleans (W) at Arizona
NY Jets (W) at Miami
Tennessee (W) at San Diego
Denver at Tampa Bay (W)


Sunday Night

St. Louis (W) at San Francisco


Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore (W)

[Cyrel Annat]

Sunday, Early

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (W)
Indianapolis (W) at Jacksonville
Oakland at Houston (W)
New England (W) at Buffalo
Philadelphia (W) at Chicago
Washington (W) at Cleveland
NY Giants at Green Bay (W)


Sunday, Late

Atlanta at Carolina (W)
New Orleans at Arizona (W)
NY Jets (W) at Miami
Tennessee (W) at San Diego
Denver (W) at Tampa Bay


Sunday Night

St. Louis (W) at San Francisco


Monday Night

Kansas City at Baltimore (W)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

well I can't wait to see if the Niners can win ONE. I'm rooting for them today, after being traitorous the last three weeks and picking against them. I just have a feeeeeeling that they might pull one out. ONE.

[Cyrel Annat]

Well, with Marts' track record so far this year, the Niners may just be the recipient of another of his many blunders.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

That was an ugly, yet impressive drive by the Bills. batch the punt, but get 43 yards for the first down. Drew puts it up, Moulds catches it in the endzone to put the Bills up!

Though NE is challenging the play. It was a catch, deal with it. :p

[jjwr]

Tough game for the Pats, Bills are playing tough!

Lots of penalties, that last one where Dillon almost fumbled for the 2nd time, that was probably a fumble. I hate that rule though, if the play is called dead you can't challenge, even if its wrong. Its BS, yeah it would have cost the Pats in that case but its still bogus.

Pats up 24-17.......

[JMK]

Hey, God is a Pats fan...I can't figure out how they seem to get the benefit every time, but I guess you have to be good to be lucky...

[jjwr]

True, they keep getting breaks.

They missed one there though, that would played right into their luck, fumble but then get the ball back after another fumble and touchback.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

That's game. :(

[jjwr]

Yup....gotta feel sorry for bledsoe, he's sitll one of my favorite players.

[Master Yoghurt]

Thanks to Nathanial for helping me post my picks :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I can't believe Green Bay lost again!!

[Ryan Pode]

Kurt Warner is very good. Ya gotta give him credit.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Doh How did I forget to post my picks. Oh well, NE was impressive they are the best team, IMO right now. Who do they play for the record next week?

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
Kurt Warner is very good. Ya gotta give him credit.

The Giants didn't win because of Warner. They won because Tiki Barber ran wild, and because Green Bay can't play defense.

[Ryan Pode]

Pfft. It's all about Kurt Warner. He is the man. The NFL was really wild today as Arizona ... had a lopsided victory.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr
Doh How did I forget to post my picks. Oh well, NE was impressive they are the best team, IMO right now. Who do they play for the record next week?

Miami, I think.

[Jedieb]

I thought the Packers would be sure to bouncd back after last week. I was stunned to see them drop another game at Lambeau. Their defense blitzes way too much and that secondary really couldn't afford to lose whatever dreadlocked corner they have holding out. The Giants are playing much better than I ever thought they would. That offensive line is the key. They're not great, but they're not as horrible as many thought they would be. That Giants/Cowboys game is going to be a tough one to pick next week. If it were at the Meadowlands I'd pick the Gaints in a heartbeat.

Jacksonville really impressed me today. They lost, but they played the Colts tough. The Colts have some serious problems on defense. They made soem key stops, but the Jags were able to move the ball on them consistently. I think the Jags can easily make the playoffs this year. One of the reasons being how weak the AFC West has become. I never know which Raiders team is going to show up to play. The Chargers really put a beating on them and that's just plain wrong.

The Dolphins are just sad to watch. Every game has been the same. The defense keeps them in the game and you just end up feeling sorry for them. Yet another Dolphin QB throws a TD pass, for his OPPONENT. Are they trying to set an NFL record?

On a bright note, did everyone see the highlights of Emmit's big day? Over 120yds, TD's rushing AND passing. Good for him. Only the 5th back in NFL history to rush for over 100yds over the age of 35.

Tonight we may see that the Niners are truly wretched. If they get dominated by the Rams at home I won't shed a tear. But on that slower surface I wouldn't be surprised if Martz forgets yet again that he's got a guy named Marshall Faulk on his team. Putz.

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL the Pats will kill them. What is sadder is they will beat the one of the teams that is tied for the record.

[Ryan Pode]

I think, it be funny if the Pat's lost.

[Cyrel Annat]

Thus far, the gameplan of the Rams seems sound. A healthy dose of Marshall. In truth, the guy is so good - even as he's getting up there in years for an RB - that there really should not even be thought put behind this decision. And until the Niners can prove that they can stop him, I'd keep doing the same thing. Marshall outside right, Marshall inside left. For a lark, swing pass to Marshall.

In other news, an impressive win for Arizona. Granted, it was against the Aints, but it's nice to see Dennis Green's work out there finally pay off since they really have not played bad football this season. They still won't win many games, at least not until Boldin comes back to give McCown another threat, but good on them for giving the home crowd something to really cheer about. And the venerable one still has some miles left as was seen today.

On a side note about the Niners, who is their kicker that they opted to punt from the Rams' 30 rather than attempt a FG?

[Jedieb]

24-0 going into halftime. This is just sad. The Nines look simply wretched. They're going to be battling Miami for next year's top draft pick.

I'm tempted to pick Miami next week. The organization has a lot of pride when it comes to the 72 team and its records. If the game were at Miami I would pick them. But the Dolphin offense isn't just anemic, it's prone to to mistakes. No defense in the league capitalizes on mistakes better than the Pats. Fieldler or Feely is sure to throw a TD pass to Bruski or some other oppurtunistic Pat defender.

[jjwr]

It does figure that the Pats would have to beat Miami for the record, while its not the 17-0 single season record it does affect that teams overall record and closing in on the longest regular season streak.

If it was in Miami I would worry a lot more, as teh game is in Gillette the Pats should win it....but you never know :)

The Packers are falling apart, the team was overrated to begin with so its just catching up to them. That division is the Vikings to lose.

Giants looked ok, I still can't see them as a playoff team though.

My picks are really sucking, I can't seem to get in a groove this year.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

My picks were bad today. >_<

[Figrin D'an]

It's been a hard season to pick so far in general. It seems like parity is even more rampant than in past seasons. Outside of a few of teams that look really good (New England, Philly, Seattle, Indy), it's becoming hard to get a good read on the rest of the league. The next couple of weeks will help to sort things out, but still... it's been rather topsy-turvy so far everywhere except those four franchises I mentioned.

[Master Yoghurt]

It turns out, ABCs Monday Night Football show with John Madden and Al Michaels is being broadcast on Viasat Sport every week. I will be sure to watch the Baltimore/Kansas game.

[Ryan Pode]

Even if you aren't a Ravens or Chiefs fan, I'd watch the game, as there will be some records set.

[Jedieb]

Wow, the Chiefs are playing their best game of the year. That last TD by Holmes puts them up 17-10. I thought they'd get dominated at a hostile Raven's den, but they're more than holding their own. On offense, the Ravens should be able to keep putting up points, but it there's an offense the Chiefs' D should be able to slow down a bit, it's the Ravens.

[Jedieb]

The Chiefs are going to give up some yards and points this last quarter. Lewis is just starting to run over Chiefs left and right. But I haven't seen anyone run on the Ravens like this in years. The Chiefs have been running up and down the field on that mighty Ravens D and it's opened up the play action pass for Green. Baltimore may score now, but they haven't been able to stop the Chiefs for much of the game. Let's see if the Chiefs can put together another drive this 4th quarter, if they do the game's over.

[Jedi Master Carr]

The Chiefs defense came up big twice in the 4th. They had to win this game. Now they have a bye week so they can rest up and try to go on a win streak. They are still capable of making the playoffs, IMO.

[Figrin D'an]

Week 4 Results

Jedieb: 7-7
Syren Wyssholt: 7-7
Ryan Pode: 5-8 (no Falcons/Panthers pick)
jjwr: 8-6
JMK: 8-6
Nathanial K'cansce: 8-6
Yoghurt: 10-4
Lilaena De'Ville: 6-8
Figrin D'an: 6-8
Cyrel Annat: 9-5


Updated Season Totals

Yoghurt: 40-20
Cyrel Annat: 39-21
jjwr: 37-23
Lilaena De'Ville: 37-23
Nathanial K'cansce: 37-23
Jedieb: 36-24
Figrin D'an: 34-26
JMK: 32-28
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Ryan Pode: 32-26
Syren Wyssholt: 31-28
Jedi Master Carr: 27-19
Darth McBain: 22-24
Darth Sauron: 11-5
Drake Shadowstalker: 11-5
Reaperfett: 11-5
Lucian Belial: 11-3
Sarr Koon: 10-4

[jjwr]

Chiefs next 5 or 6 games are really tough games, even if they win 4 of 6 that still puts them at 5-5, which isn't horrible but doesn't leave much margin for error.

The team can obviously play well but it doesn't look consistent enough.

On the bright side it only gave up 17 points to the mighty Ravens offense :)

[Master Yoghurt]

Yay, Im in the lead :D

I saw the game yesterday, and it was interesting/exciting, but I hated all the commercial breaks intervening all the time. Is it normal to have those breaks in the middle of a quarter?

It seemed like a really close game. I think what won Chiefs the game was an extra effort from the defense. They must have realised they wont reach the playoffs only with their offense, they need a decent defense as well.

[JMK]

So what's worse about last night's game? The fact that the Ravens had the ball for nearly 40 minutes and only won by 3, or the fact that K.C.'s defense stank so horribly that they couldn't get the ball back?

Then again, if you're Baltimore's defense and you give up 24 points in giving the Chiefs minimal possession time, how good is your defense? Not very, at least not last night.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Kyle you got the score wrong heh. KC won 27-24, they won by three. KC had the ball for like 40 minutes. I think it was a big win. Who knows what they will do in the next 6 games, sure they are tough but they could real off 5 wins in that stretch. Also the hardest games are at home which will help them.

[JMK]

Yeah my bad. I've still got to ask the same questions though.

How good is KC if they only outscore the Ravens by 3 while having possession for nearly 20 minutes longer?

And is Baltimore's defense going downhill? It sounds like they gave up one sustained drive after the other.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well they should have scored TD's instead of FG's those two times then it would have been 35-24. The reason why they held the ball so long was very long drives. Four of their drives were over 10 plays one was 14 and one was 13 those two drives I think added up to like 16 minutes of clock. They basically played keep away which was probably the best thing do against Jamal Lewis. Still the defense played very good. 7 of the points came on a Punt return and 7 other points on trick play. There was only that one drive where Lewis went wild that the defense looked bad, IMO.

[JMK]

So basically the Ravens were lucky to even be in yesterday's game? Their offense was weak at best save for a flea flicker and a punt return, and their defense couldn't make a play? I wonder if the Jamal Lewis thing is becoming a distraction for them?

[Jedieb]

The Chiefs had every reason to phone that game in last week and end their season. I thought they put together a very good road win against a tough defense. They did what they had to do and now they actually have a shot at making the playoffs. The AFC West is still pretty weak and I can see the Chiefs being able to pull it out with 9 or 10 wins. But I think they may have a hard time getting a shot at any WC spots. I see too many good AFC teams that can put up 10 or 11 wins and still not win their divisions.

[Ryan Pode]

Well, Baltimore's injuries finally caught up. The lack of Todd Heap was quite apparent when reserve tight end Terry Jones dropped a few passes that were easy catches. That's a reason Baltimore couldn't sustain drives. Another big problem was the lack of their Center, Mike Flynn as Eric Hicks and the other fat guy on KC's line would plow over the Raven's backup center getting too much pressure.

Now, defensively, Baltimores defense is still trying to work out the kinks as two of their lineman missed much time from injury, as well as Pete Boulware being gone, and Chris McAlister trying to get into football shape as he was a holdout for most of training camp.

And remember, there is a reason why Kansas City's offense has half-a-dozen pro-bowlers, because they can make plays and score. They knew the way to beat the Ravens was converting on third down. Which they did, and thats why the Ravens lost.

Edit: Don't blame Jamal Lewis, it's not his fault. He was trying to set the tone, but the other 10 guys didn't follow. Especially in fourth quarter drives. He had one run where he carried two guys on his back for about 8 yards.

[jjwr]

The Ravens have never had a great offense, in last nights game the defense didn't set the tone and the offense isn't good enough to carry the team on its own.

[Ryan Pode]

The Defensive line got pushed around, same thing happens in the Titans game. Pete Boulware + Terrell Suggs + Ray Lewis = enough men needed to be covered to allow the undersized line to make plays.

[Senator Thareena]

[is LD] Darn you Yoghurt!! I was number 1 for a week!

:cry

[JMK]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1897106

Jamal Lewis will go to jail, and be suspended for 2 games.

So let's see if I have this right:

Ricky Williams would be suspended at least 4 games for filling up with weed...several times.

Martha Stewart serves 5 months in jail for messing around with money and lying.

Jamal Lewis gets 4 months and ONLY 2 games for dabbling in the cocaine industry????

Does this seem off to anyone else?

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yeah he should be suspended for the entire season two games is a joke.

[darth_mcbain]

Sunday, Early
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh WIN
WIN Indianapolis at Jacksonville
WIN New England at Buffalo
N.Y. Giants WIN at Green Bay
WIN Oakland at Houston
WIN Philadelphia at Chicago
WIN Washington at Cleveland

Sunday Late
Atlanta WIN at Carolina
WIN New Orleans at Arizona
WIN Denver at Tampa Bay
N.Y. Jets at Miami WIN
WIN Tennessee at San Diego

Sunday Night
WIN St. Louis at San Francisco

Monday Night
Kansas City at Baltimore WIN



EDIT - OK I'm an idiot..... 'nuff said... :)

[jjwr]

Well the guy wasn't even under contract at the time and as they were saying on sports center he never used it, never bought it and never planned on distributing it, just connecting his girl friend at the time and a friend so they could do a transaction.

I'm not saying its right but it could have been a lot worse.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Mcbain heh those games have already been played :)

[JMK]

I think the newborn is messing with McBain's brain!

He was making calls for 7 games series in the divisional series' in baseball and now predicting last week's results!

McBain? What's up guy?? :lol

[darth_mcbain]

Whoa - dude- I am totally out... Don't mind me for the rest of the day...

JMK - you're actually not too far off... I've actually been sick the past two days and I'm still kind of :crack from all the medicine I've been taking. I tell ya - being off sick from work is not quite the same when you've got a kid at home to watch after... That combined with my trip last week back to NYC - I don't think my brain is all with me...

Anyway, again - don't mind me, my mind should return - ohhh next Monday...

"Why thank you Andre - I'll have the veal piccata"