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Marcus Telcontar
Sep 20th, 2004, 03:04:26 PM
Jeanne certainly caused some bad flooding, death toll already 100+. But, it's not looking likey to head to the USA. You got Hurricane Karl wandering north, Jeanne to the middle and a new cyclone, Lisa to the south.

Who'ld want to be a sailor right now?

CMJ
Sep 20th, 2004, 05:43:34 PM
Not me. Storms on the water are about 10 times worse than even the worst landfall. I wouldn't want to be negotiating 50 foot seas for hours on end.

JediBoricua
Sep 21st, 2004, 01:43:04 PM
Jeanne was nothing I tell you, at least in Puerto Rico. Poor people in Haiti though.

Well we got some flooding, some houses lost their roof, and about half a billion in damage......:x We personally lost the most beautiful tree in my backyard, so it kinda sucks.

Lost power for three days. Not bad, considering taht for George I lost power for 28 days.

CMJ
Sep 21st, 2004, 01:47:29 PM
Originally posted by JediBoricua
Jeanne was nothing I tell you, at least in Puerto Rico. Poor people in Haiti though.


Haiti was under Jeanne for so long they just got torrents of rain. The whole island looks like it's underwater.

Jeanne is now curving away in the Atlantic. I might sever some of these posts in another day or so for a new Jeanne thread, we'll see.

Marcus Telcontar
Sep 21st, 2004, 03:59:14 PM
Originally posted by CMJ
Haiti under Jeannel for so long they just got torrents of rain. The whole island looks like it's underwater.

Jeanne is now curving away in the Atlantic. I might sever some of these posts in another day or so for a new Jeanne thread, we'll see.


The UN tried to find Haiti's second biggest island two days ago and failed. There also has ben no contact from it.

Lilaena De'Ville
Sep 21st, 2004, 04:17:23 PM
The whole island is underwater? Sounds surreal - Atlantis-esque at best.

CMJ
Sep 21st, 2004, 08:12:38 PM
Haiti won't forget Jeanne anytime soon.

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Haiti Death Toll Hits 691 After Storm

By AMY BRACKEN, Associated Press Writer

GONAIVES, Haiti - The death toll across Haiti from the weekend deluges brought by Tropical Storm Jeanne rose to 691, with about 600 of them in Gonaives, and officials said they expected to find more dead and estimated tens of thousands of people were homeless.

Waterlines up to 10 feet high on Gonaives' buildings marked the worst of the storm that sent water gushing down denuded hills, destroying homes and crops in the Artibonite region that is Haiti's breadbasket.

Floodwaters receded, but half of Haiti's third-largest city was still swamped with contaminated water up to two feet deep four days after Jeanne passed. Not a house in the city of 250,000 people escaped damage. The homeless sloshed through the streets carrying belongings on their heads, while people with houses that still had roofs tried to dry scavenged clothes.

"We're going to start burying people in mass graves," said Toussaint Kongo-Doudou, a spokesman for the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Haiti. Some victims were buried Monday.

Flies buzzed around bloated corpses piled high at the city's three morgues, where the electricity was off as temperatures reached into the 90s.

Only about 30 of the 250 bodies at the morgue of the flood-damaged General Hospital hade been identified, said Dr. Daniel Rubens of the International Red Cross. Many of the dead there were children.

"I lost my kids and there's nothing I can do," said Jean Estimable, whose 2-year-old daughter was killed and another of his five children was missing and presumed dead.

Dieufort Deslorges, spokesman for the civil protection agency, said he expected the death toll to rise as reports came in from outlying villages and estimated a quarter million Haitians had been made homeless.

Deslorges said rescue workers reported recovering 691 bodies by Tuesday — about 600 of them in Gonaives and more than 40 in northern Port-de-Paix. In addition, at least 51 were recovered in other areas.

More than 1,000 people were missing, said Raoul Elysee, head of the Haitian Red Cross, which was trying desperately to find doctors to help. The international aid group CARE said 85 of its 200 workers in Gonaives were unaccounted for.

"It's really catastrophic. We're still discovering bodies," said Francoise Gruloos of the U.N. Children's Fund.

The aid group Food for the Poor said the main road north from Gonaives was made impassable by the storm — it was unclear whether from mudslides or debris — and there were fears that hundreds of possible flood victims may be out of reach.

Brazilian and Jordanian troops in the U.N. peacekeeping mission sent to stabilize Haiti after rebels ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in February struggled to help the needy as aid workers ferried supplies of water and food to victims.

CARE spokesman Rick Perera said the agency had about 660 tons of dry food in Gonaives, including corn-soy blend, dried lentils and cooking oil and was trying to set up distribution points.

Police said aid vehicles were being waylaid by mobs on the outskirts of Gonaives. One truck that made it to City Hall in the town center was swarmed by people who began throwing its load of bagged water into the crowd, setting off a melee. The driver finally sped off, bouncing people off the truck.

Addressing the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday, Haiti's interim president, Boniface Alexandre, pleaded for help.

"In the face of this tragedy ... I appeal urgently for the solidarity of the international community so it may once again support the government in the framework of emergency assistance," he said.

Several nations were sending aid including $1.8 million from the European Union (news - web sites) and $1 million and rescue supplies from Venezuela. The U.S. Embassy announced $60,000 in immediate relief aid Monday, drawing criticism from Rep. Kendrick Meek (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., who called it "a drop in the bucket."

Floods are particularly devastating in Haiti, the poorest country in the Americas, because it is almost completely deforested, leaving few roots to hold back rushing waters or mudslides. Most of the trees have been chopped down to make charcoal for cooking.

Jeanne came four months after devastating floods along Haiti's southern border with the Dominican Republic. Some 1,700 bodies were recovered and 1,600 more were presumed dead.

Gonaives also suffered fighting during the February rebellion that led to the ouster of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide and left an estimated 300 dead.

The storm entered the Caribbean last week, killing seven people in Puerto Rico before the hurricane hit the Dominican Republic, killing at least 19, including 12 who drowned Monday in swollen rivers. The overall death toll was 717.

On Tuesday, Jeanne was posing no threat to land, about 515 miles east of Great Abaco island in the Bahamas.

Also out in the open Atlantic was Hurricane Karl, 990 miles from the Caribbean's Leeward islands, and Tropical Storm Lisa, which was about 1,005 miles northeast of the Leeward Islands.

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Lilaena De'Ville
Sep 21st, 2004, 08:16:42 PM
Wow. :(

Morgan Evanar
Sep 22nd, 2004, 08:40:08 PM
GO AWAY ALREADY. 3 IS ENOUGH!

http://panicked.org/storm/jeanne.gif

imported_Firebird1
Sep 22nd, 2004, 08:42:31 PM
Not another storm! Haven't there been enough of these already?!

CMJ
Sep 22nd, 2004, 08:58:18 PM
Jeanne stalled in the Atlantic...did a full loop and is headed back towards Florida. The models seem to indicate a shift to the north just prior to landfall, so Florida might be spared. It looks more like a Georgia/South Carolina landfall to me.

Marcus Telcontar
Sep 23rd, 2004, 04:19:28 AM
Originally posted by CMJ
Jeanne stalled in the Atlantic...did a full loop and is headed back towards Florida. The models seem to indicate a shift to the north just prior to landfall, so Florida might be spared. It looks more like a Georgia/South Carolina landfall to me.

Not now. Jeanne's tracked to make landfall then turn north. As if it's not happy with claiming over 2000 lives so far, now it seems to also want to hit Florida.

Okay CMJ, can you name a worse year for hurricanes?

CMJ
Sep 23rd, 2004, 10:00:09 AM
In number..or affecting land?

Jedi Master Carr
Sep 23rd, 2004, 04:02:36 PM
Yeah it will come for me next :p Seriously, if it hits Savannah I will see some of it up here.

Marcus Telcontar
Sep 23rd, 2004, 08:07:17 PM
http://bash.org/GODvsBUSH.gif

Too funny not to post.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/hurricane.asp

Before anyone thinks it's factual :p

Lilaena De'Ville
Sep 25th, 2004, 11:46:06 AM
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT11/refresh/AL1104W+GIF/251503W.gif Here she comes...

CMJ
Sep 25th, 2004, 11:58:25 PM
My folks were in town visiting the last few days, so I haven't been able to obsess like usual, but I'm watching landfall on CNN right now. ;)