Federacy technology question

[Lilaena De'Ville]

http://sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=35645

I believe the word I'm looking for here is - what?

[Dasquian Belargic]

o_O

Hm, looking in there R&D forum, there's nothing there to explain it. Khendon posted a thread about a 'TIE Diablo' recently, but everything is listed as being 'secret'.

Someone should PM him about it?

[Darth Viscera]

It's not immediately apparent what sort of tech he's pioneering in that thread, other than this quote:


the successful transference of energy from one section of the sector to another via hyperspace

which could have massive implications later on, think of some battlemoon out in the outer rim with a hyperdrive firing turbolasers through its hyper-corridor at Coruscant from 80,000 light years away.

Here are the stats for the TIE Diablo (i have access to the ImpFed R&D forum)



Specifications
Class - JCF-X1 Tie Diablo
Designation - Space Superiority Fighter
Demensions -

Armament
2 CEPP Cannons
1 Banshee Laser Gatling
2 Hard Points (Various Armaments)


Defenses and Equipment
Hull Armor - Bonded Tritanium
Armor Rating - 56 RU
Sheilding - Micro Protector System
Shield Rating - 155 SBD


Propultion
Reactor - AL-10 Anti-mater
Stardrive System - Chiss Engineered Micro Negative Mater Pulse Drive
Sublight Speed - 188 MGLT


Crew - 1 Pilot

Description - Designed and built by the Chiss in conjunction with Federacy Technicians as a Space Superiority Fighter. Using a Mix of Chiss and Federacy Technology the Diablo is the most State of the art Fighter Avalible. Interchangeable Pay Loads give this craft the capabilitys of a multy role fighter while maintaining its manuverablilty and Speed. A low Side and Front Profile make the Diablo very difficult to targer in a fight. and the advanced Propultion make it the most manuverable fighter put out by either the Chiss or the Federacy. Built as a cheep but well constructed counter to the faster heavier Federacy Fighters the Diablo is sure to see favor amoung many system Defense forces and as a escort fighter.

The First 200 of these have been tested by the Chiss and Sent to the Federacy for further testing.. Contract states the Chiss shall share the design with the Federacy and build the first 2,000 and ship to the Federacy in return for the technology shared .

http://www.swforums.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=680958

http://www.swforums.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=680959

hot damn, that is one fine-looking TIE.

I can't tell if that's a god-mode craft or not. It's got half again the speed of an A-Wing, what looks like armaments comparable to the TIE Advanced, and the shield and armor rating of an Assault Gunboat. Under ordinary circumstances I'd say it's not kosher (too heavily armored, too much weaponry for its speed), but then I haven't seen all the other stuff they and others have been R&Ding in order to build up to this level over the past 4 years. Which is precisely the problem, the culmination of 4 years worth of cumulative uber R&D's.

I maintain that we should announce a moratorium on new R&Ds in preparation for revamping the R&D system and bringing back ships and tech that are more in line with classic star wars.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Well, it only becomes a problem when one of the other 'fleeting' groups starts huffing and puffing about it.

I don't think that redoing the R&D system needs to be revamped - except maybe the groups that do it should provide a master list of R&D's to the mods (us) so that when people complain we can reference the log and say "ah, well, they've been developing it for ten months and yes, it's perfectly legal." Instead of my classic "what?!" response of a few posts ago. The groups that actually DO put the time into R&D enjoy it, and it's not really vitally effecting everyone.

Unlike if they built a superweapon, which was outlawed, wasn't it?

[Morgan Evanar]

Tis lame. Antimatter? GB2StarTrek.

I have no idea how a hyperspace "corridor" would work. There isn't a precedent anywhere for it.

[Darth Viscera]

it's the blue wormhole thing

[Morgan Evanar]

Right, but how do they get out of the corridor? You have to turn the hyperdrive off.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Looks like they're transferring *energy* not ships.

Still, my "what?" remains.

edit: Sent PM to Khendon. The content follows here.



Khendon took a breath for a moment and continued, “Gentlemen! Today you witnessed the byproduct of a cubatom collision generating powerful, destructive ions. Those charged atoms were then taken and, in a controlled fashion, made more deadly. They were then accelerated using a probe-like-craft designed to generate and deliver this wave of energy.

“Using containment fields the ions were accelerated to hyperspace! Once they’d reach their destination they exited hyperspace; however, they remained at break neck speed. The wave was designed not only to destroy whatever it touched, but also to disable electrical systems—even those usually shielded!”

The men looked blankly at the orator, they felt fear and awe—this Khendon could feel seeping forth from them like a fountain in the force. He smiled mischievously, “Any questions?”

My question is... what?

Please explain what you have done here, and how it is possible using Star Wars technology. If I hear the term "wormhole" it becomes non-Star Wars. :)

This is for the benefit of all the RPing Mods, so that should some other group protest your new invention, we will be fully versed in it and know what's going on. Also, we'd like to know so that we can decide if it's allowable and not a superweapon. Sounds like a superweapon to me.

:) Thanks for your time! I will be relaying your reply to the rest of the RPing mods.

Lilaena De'Ville
Sw-Fans.Net RPing Moderator

edit 2! I thought there was something in the FAQ that prohibited superweapons, like SUncrushers and Death Stars. However, I do not see anything like that in the FAQ, except that one cannot destroy a SD in one post (under godmoding). So, we *do* allow superweapons?

I am so confused.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Khendon Sevon wrote on Today 03:00 PM:
Questions are always welcome :)

The basic technologies involved:

Cubatoms – a technology the Federacy has already developed. Atoms are reorganized into static cube structures. This enables them to be extremely stable.

Cubatom Explosion – through the introduction of unstable particles and a constantly decreasing amount of space, cubatoms are torn to pieces, forming ions (charged atoms). These ions are not just destructive to electronics, but all matter—the destructive nature varies on the amount of electrons present.

Hyperspace Containment – when a ship enters hyperspace a field is actually released around it (If my memory serves me correctly it’s an energy field designed to protect the ship during the travel, like a shield)

How this applies:

What Khendon has done is to build a probe (fairly large one) that can harness the power of a cubatom. More specifically, it generates a cubatom explosion and allows the ions to expand and push away from each other (which happens due to the like charge). Then, using a very powerful opposite charge it pulls the particles together as a sort of an energy shield and accelerates to hyperspace (no wormholes, just hyperspace).

After leaving hyperspace the wall of energy is released and the probe decelerates (resulting in the probes destruction as the wash reaches it). The energy then continues, losing speed but still traveling at a fairly good pace.

Upon contact with an object it does a low to moderate amount of damage; however, when it comes to electronics, it does substantial damage.

The idea is that the discharge isn’t enough to knock out engines or weapons or other hardware oriented things; rather, it’s aimed towards delicate computers. The goal of the weapon is to be used on a small scale against the Sovereignty mine field.

Why this isn’t a superweapon:

Superweapons tend to do a large amount of damage to a target that is irreversible. For example, a superlaser obliterates all matter in its path; a suncrusher’s missile destroys planets and the like. This ion weapon temporarily disables computer systems and does minor physical damage (I say minor because I believe as the wave travels further it loses integrity—which would make sense because of all of the electrical activity impacting the ions).

Furthermore, there is the plausibility of detection and stoppage of the weapon. Planetary shields are surely powerful enough to prevent the penetration of the ions. Capital ship shields would generally be strong enough to counter the wave. The idea is that ships without shields or with very weak shields would be affected.

Why it might be construed as a superweapon:

In the RP the weapon disables many ships and sends them plummeting towards the planet. This, however, isn’t what the weapon is designed for and would not happen under normal circumstances. The ships that are in orbit are running subroutines to keep them in orbit. The waves released by the weapon simply disabled the guidance computers causing the engines to not be able to respond to elements that affected their flight path. As such, their orbit disintegrated.

Additional reasons for the plausibility:

The probe is actually very, very expensive. Each probe only has a one-time use and each must contain a powerful cubatom reactor, top of the line hyperdrive, delicate targeting sensors, a droid brain, and a variety of other technologies.

That is actually the reason Khendon has so many businessmen observing the project. He’s going to propose that their companies work together to establish a base on the planet Troia where the probes can be assembled and controlled from as well as built. The Federacy will pick up a good portion of the bill for the construction and pay for the probes.

In return the companies gain the valuable resources on Troia and the Federacy establishes a refueling outpost for their future push into Sovereignty space. Everyone goes home happy.





The RP isn’t over yet, I still would like to RP out a lot of the elements of the construction of the base and refinement of the probe.

If you have any additional questions or require any clarification I’d be happy to help. Thank you for asking me in PM, it was very polite of you.

Thank you again,

- Khendon



Khendon, thank you so much, it makes more sense now, certainly.

Also, just something I've been throwing around to the other RPing moderators... R&D scares a lot of people because of the amount of things that could feasibly be thought up and 'researched,' such as non-relevant technology (star trek, etc) or superweapons or what-have-you. What I would like to propose is that when a design is R&Ded it is submitted by PM to the RPing moderators. That way, even though it may be concealed in a Federacy private forum, the RPing moderators have a heads up on what may be appearing in the RPing section.

Also, if there are problems that might develop, it can be taken care of quietly, without, say, the Sovereignty crying for blood or something similar.

Let me know what you think, the proposed is just an idea, and hasn't been cemented into stone or anything like that.

Lilaena De'Ville

I think that the new tech is certainly plausible and not in danger of swaying things too much in favor of the Federacy. Although I've never heard of their cubatoms before, but if he says he's R&Ded it, I believe him.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Khendon Sevon wrote on Today 04:25 PM:
I love the idea of submitting researches to a moderator. As long as they’re neutral and have a reasonable grasp of science and technology as well as what is within reach of starwars technology, I’m for it. In fact, S’ilancy was reviewing my research up until recently.

As a note, the Federacy isn’t really doing anymore “production” research. Piett and I have reached a point where we believe designing anything beyond what we have would be unfair. My current project—the one being RPed in Shattering the Gem—will probably be the last “research” I do for a long time.

Anyway, I’m getting off topic. You have whatever support I can offer on your idea.

Thank you,

- Khendon

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Was the consensus on this that no one cares anymore?

[Darth Viscera]

Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
maybe the groups that do it should provide a master list of R&D's to the mods (us) so that when people complain we can reference the log and say "ah, well, they've been developing it for ten months and yes, it's perfectly legal."

sounds like a plan

I stand by my statement late in post 3, however.