Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

[Jedi Master Carr]

Okay this may be a hoax or it could be the truth we will have to wait and see here it is from a Harry Potter site

http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/MTarchives/week_2004_06_20.html#004840

Its Harry Potter and the Pillar of Storgé, it interesting title if it indeed true. I guess we will have to wait and see.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Had to look up the meaning of the word, but.... wow. That's a cool title. VERY appropriate

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yeah I like the title too, watch it be fake :p

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Parental affection; the instinctive affection which animals have for their young.

I had to look it up too, is that the correct definition?

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yep, it is from a Greek myth the Four pillars of Love

Storgé which appeals to ones love for what is defenseless and needs one's love and caring.

Philios or friendship is the love for people in general

Eros is the love that is physical

Agapé the highest form of love that can be both understood and experienced is also known as divine love

It actually fits with the series since Harry has no parents I can see where it is going. Still this could be a hoax, there has been no confirmation, this is all from one person who says he accidently got into the webisight and found this. Personally I think he is lying, he either hacked into the website or he made it up, one or the other.

[Dan the Man]

Harry Potter VI: HERMIONE DIES

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Harry Potter IXIV: Harry Gets a Walker

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL at LD. And Man Charlie you must have a thing for Hermione dying here heh.

[Jinn Fizz]

Nah, Hermione can't die, she's going to be headmistress of Hogwart's eventually, just you wait and see. ;)

The title is cool, but I bet it's a fake.

[darth_mcbain]

I was wondering when we'd start getting some info on book 6. Though it could be fake, I like the title - sounds cool. I am kinda ticked a little that according to the report, it seems that this one is even longer than the 5th one. I love all of the books, but it seems like lately Rowling is just filling up pages so fast. These things are huge...

[Jedi Master Carr]

of course if that is true. Still no denial or conformation which is weird.

[ReaperFett]

Harry Potter: Oh who cares, we all know you'll buy it anyway. Why should I even try?


:p

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL that sounds like something Lucas would do with Star Wars. It is at the point where the titles no longer matter.

[Garret Treborn]

Anyone remember how many titles were floating around prior to the release of The Order of the Phoenix. And none of them were right. This title is 100% fake IMO.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well I think we will be getting a title soon regardless if this is it, who knows, so far no denial or confirmation which is weird.

[Garret Treborn]

The title will be given when the sixth book is released in 2006. That is my guess for a release anyway.

[Droo]

Actually the title for book five was released a year before release.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think Book 6 will come out September 2005, but that is just my opinion.

[Droo]

You're determined to make me a miserable Potter fan, aren't you? First the QWC and now the book six release date. I say bring it out SEPTEMBER 2004!!

Well, seriously though, book five was released the equivalent of this or last weekend this time last year so hopefully we will get book six around this time next year. Fingers crossed.

On the JK Rowling website where the title is said to have been found, there is supposedly a date saying 1st July so maybe Rowling had intended to make it publice knowledge at the start of next month but we'll see.

[imported_Eve]

TLC is saying there are inconsistencies with the language and grammer used in what the site says its the supposed video to finding the title of book six on jkrowling.com. The english is Americanized in places (not English). They say the wording is also not consistent with the way JK Rowling types/speaks either.

I noticed when I watched the video yesterday, that the type is done over. That could either be due to bad video quality, or due to someone not thinking through his/her prank very well.

Ugh, I can't wait anyway.

BTW, why does Charley want Hermoine to die?

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think he feels that it is messing with Potter Fans not sure how since she isn't the main focus of the story. About the title, it appears to be a hoax, a very clever one though. I still wish the site would just deny it then to settle the matter. About the release date. I wish it could come by the end of this year, but it doesn't seem possible. According to rumors she is about finished with the first draft so gather with that I say it will get released sometime next year.

[Shawn]

Originally posted by Eve
BTW, why does Charley want Hermoine to die? Because Hermione dies.

[imported_Eve]

Nut uh. Explain.

[Dan the Man]

Originally posted by Eve
BTW, why does Charley want Hermoine to die?

Because with the last book, there was this enormously huge zerg rush of nerds on the internet who were frothing at the mouth due to a rumor that Hermione dies in the next book. It became something of an internet joke.

On top of that, I don't like Harry Potter at all.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Actually Shawn she doesn't , I don't see her dying, of the three the most likely to die honestly is Harry, he could sacrifice himself to save the world I could see that happening, otherwise they all will surivive, I am leaning towards that right now. Of course back when Charley posted that rumor I knew he was messing with us and I just ignored it, so I say ignore it now :p

[Dan the Man]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr
Actually Shawn she doesn't , I don't see her dying, of the three the most likely to die honestly is Harry, he could sacrifice himself to save the world I could see that happening, otherwise they all will surivive, I am leaning towards that right now. Of course back when Charley posted that rumor I knew he was messing with us and I just ignored it, so I say ignore it now :p

You really don't get the internet, do you?

[Marcus Telcontar]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr
Actually Shawn she doesn't , I don't see her dying, of the three the most likely to die honestly is Harry, he could sacrifice himself to save the world I could see that happening, otherwise they all will surivive, I am leaning towards that right now. Of course back when Charley posted that rumor I knew he was messing with us and I just ignored it, so I say ignore it now :p

Why on earth's name did you tag that?

[Shawn]

I was having a laugh, that's all. :)

[Droo]

Originally posted by Marcus Telcontar
Why on earth's name did you tag that?

Book 5 spoilers follow:

Because the point he makes about Harry dying is probably not just a stab in the dark, most people have made this assumption based on the revelation of Trelawny's prediction in the Department of Mysteries. As such it wil come as an indirect spoiler of book five.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yeah that is why I did. Also now the official site has been updated. The Storage title has been completly denied. But there is a puzzel on her site which will reveal the new title. I sat there and tried to figure it out. You have to get the bricks in the correct sequence. But I gave up after 30 minutes. And I read the spoiler at Mugglenet. and title is Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince I have no clue what that means it is different I am guessing it refers to Voldemort somehow but that is just a guess since Voldemort is a half blood.

Edit I took the spoilers out because I figure most of you won't venture to try to figure it out on the site :p

[Ryan Pode]

http://money.cnn.com/2004/06/29/news/newsmakers/harrypotter/index.htm?cnn=yes

The article in case anyone else wants to see it.


She seemed to confirm the Half Blood Prince title on the Daily News page by adding "The HBP is neither Harry nor Voldemort," she wrote. Lord Voldemort is the series' villain.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Thats cool, it looks like I was wrong about who the title was refering too. What half-bloods are there then? I know there is Lupin (he has been confirmed to be a half-blood Wizard) Hagrid is a half blood giant. Don't know of anyone else unless Snape is revealed to be a half-blood. It could be a new character as well I guess.

[Marcus Telcontar]

The real title sorta sucks.

[Live Wire]

yep thats the real title msn confirmed it and apparetly rowlings called the "pillar of storge" a laughable title.


http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=162719

[Droo]

I love HBP, it makes a nice change from the "Harry Potter and the X of the Y" or "Harry Potter and the X of Y". The only exception to that rule is Philosopher's Stone and I love the idea of finding out who the Halfblood Prince will be.

[imported_Eve]

Do they ever say whether Snape is a half blood? I just know Snape is a big part of Harry's story somehow.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I love the title too it is better than that Storage junk (that word was just way too hard for people to say) About who it is I am not sure, I want to say Lupin, because there is more to him we don't know. It could be Snape I suppose or maybe Hagrid. Unless they bring a character we haven't seen in a while (like Krum, who knows what lineage he is) but it could be a new character (people on the Harry Potter boards are saying maybe Mark Evans) or the new DADA perhaps. Or it could not be a person it could be a spell, a prophecy, a book, etc there are a lot of possbilities. Another reason I like the title.

[Tiberius Anar]

"Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince" I prefered the other one better. Damn!

[Figrin D'an]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr
Yeah I like the title too...



Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr
I love the title too it is better than that Storage junk (that word was just way too hard for people to say


:rolleyes


What's so difficult about "storge"? And God forbid that literature actually use words with which people might be unfamiliar.

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL well it would be a tough title for some people to say :p Not me persay but I can imagine some people especially since 90% probably don't know what it is. Interestingly enough Rowling was appalled that anybody believed it, not sure what she means by that. Maybe that it wouldn't be something that would be coming from her. The Pillar of Storage is a part of mythology but I can see, after really thinking about it, that overdoing the whole Parental love stuff about Harry. I think most people know by now that his parents love him, so I don't think he needs to go looking for a Pillar. Truthly I did say I liked it, I thought it could work and I really didn't sit down and think about how it fit with the rest of the series. Still, I was very very skeptical of it, to tell you the truth mostly because of the source I think I predicted it might be a hoax:p. I would have accepted it, but I do like this title better because it is way more ambigious and doesn't tell you anything about the plot.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Okay the release date has been announced coming out in July :)

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20041221/110364492000.html

I am really glad at least we don't have to wait three years this time.

[jjwr]

Now that I've finally caught up I'm very much looking forward to next July!

A few things I am hoping for

#1 - Less whining!
#2 - Less beating around the bush, getting tired of all sorts of secrets and people not talking to each other and then it all coming out at the very end.
#3 - More Magic! Harry is in his 6th year, the DA studied a ton and after all that in the climax of book 5 he barley used more than 2 or 3 spells and nothing cool and powerfull like all the adults were using.
#4 - Ron & Hermy - it has to happen!

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think there will be less whinning. I think Harry will be more isolated he will isolate himself becuase of the prophecy and he don't want people around him to die. Although I think the prophecy secert will come out at some point in the book with Ron and Hermione finding out. With more magic I think that will happen. I suspect there will be a better DADA teacher this time. We had two duds in a row we need a good guy in that position for a change. As for Ron and Hermione I think we will get more of it don't know if it will get full blown in the book or not.
Now there are two big questions for me. Who in the heck is the half-Blood prince? She has ruled out Harry or Voldemort and she said somewhere it isn't Hagrid. My guess is Lupin, because he is a half-Blood. I guess it could be a surprise and it be Snape or Dumbledore. Unless it turns out to be the new DADA.
My other question is who is going to die? She has said more people are going to die, and I feel we will have several deaths in this book. There is a war going on and I suspect people are going to be dropping. We might not know most of them alot of the order for example names we have heard but characters we reallly don't know. I do think we will have one major character die right now I am suspecting Dumbledore but that is just a feeling it could also be Lupin.

[jjwr]

Its almost a given a few more members of the order will go down, very possibly one of the Weasleys? They have all been built up quite a bit and right now Ron's Mum is kind of the adopted mother of the Order and would be a hard blow to everyone without being one of the big ones.

A few well known students could turn up dead, Seamus, Dean, maybe Cho?

I can't see Dumbledore dying, he's really the only thing keeping Voldemort in check, he may go down in the last book in the final battle type of situation, he goes down and Harry steps up to take on Voldemort by himself without the shield of Dumbledore around him.

Lupin...he's really the last tie to Harry's father with Sirius dead so if he goes it leaves Harry alone, again I would more lean toward a Weasley(or two?)

[Jedi Master Carr]

I would say Dumbledore because I think Harry needs his death to move on to face Voldemort. Now this might happen actually in the half way point of Book 7 don't know. It could happen at the very end of HBP leading to major problems in book 7. I think at the end of book 7 I see war coming to Hogwarts I think Voldemort and his followers will attack the school and I think that will be because Dumbledore has already been taken out of the picture. As for other deaths I agree with you about some of the Weasleys. I don't think Arthur because he was almost killed in OOTP. There is Mrs Weasley, Percy, Charlie, and Bill. Any of them could die. Also there is the possibility of Hermione's Parents. I think Lucius Malfoy is going to do something nasty after being locked in Azkaban (you know he will escape) and I think he will come after either a Weasley or Hermione's parents or both. Though we haven't seen them it would be a huge blow for Hermione.

[jjwr]

The point about not having seen Hermione's parents is a big one, they may get killed but wouldn't qualify as the main character death.

As much as Lucius hates the Weasley's it could be any one of them, maybe the twins? Though the seem more powerfull then they let on, Percy is very possible, it won't be Ron and Ginny has already had her run in.

Good points on Dumbledore, I would imagine that would all get crammed into Book 7 though, or like you said be the cliff-hanger at the end of book 6.

Open war in Hogwarts would be interesting, it would be fun to see all the various teachers get into it as well as waves of students stepping up.

Another thought...at some point before the end Ron or Hermoine has to take down, maybe even kill Draco, he is obviously a supporter. He would be the perfect choice for a inside source to gather students to Voldemorts side and when the battle happens he could lead a attack from Within. You know Ron & Hermoine will have their moments at the end, their own final fight and it would be perfect for Ron to take him on.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I would love to see Ron take out Draco it would just seem fitting. Maybe Draco is about to kill Hermione and Ron takes him out, I could see that.

[jjwr]

That I could definetly see, and it would be very fitting.

[Jedi Master Carr]

The cover art for all the different versions are out here is the U.S one

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=harrypotter6_HR.jpg

I like it, it gives it a very mysterious look. I am surprised to see Dumbledore on the cover. First time that has happened.

[darth_mcbain]

I like it too. I'm pretty psyched for this book. I hope I'll be in a position to read it when it comes out, though. Right now I'm working on the Dark Tower books (I'm about halfway done - great series), and of course there's Ep. III in May. There'll be too many different mythologies going on at once in my head - I may unfortunately need to wait a little while before diving into this one...

[Lorani T'sava]

It won't matter to me if I'm in the middle of reading another book or 6, when the book comes out, I'm picking it up (pre-ordered) and reading it immediatly.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Same here I am going to probably pick it up midnight the night before and start reading it the next day. I really want to see what happens.

[Sejah Haversh]

Originally posted by Jedi Master Carr


http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=harrypotter6_HR.jpg




"...instead of a lord, you would have a QUEEEEN! Well, an old drag queen with a beard, but still. Say, you've still got that ring right? Wait, what the hell? Where's Snape? Better yet, where the hell am I?"

The cover just screams it.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Since we have a few months lets debate who the half-blood prince will be. We know it is not Harry or Voldemort and it can't be any purebloods or people with no magical parents and I read somewhere it is not Hagrid so that leaves. Lupin, Snape, Dumbledore, the new DADA, or a half-blood student (since we don't know the parentage of most of the students there is no point in go over candidates here) I am leaning towards Lupin, but heck it could be Snape for all I know. Although Dumbledore is on the cover but watch it be the new DADA.

[Gav Mortis]

http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=hbpchild.jpg

The UK children's cover gives me shivers. I love it. :D

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yeah the U.K covers are better IMO.

[Phantom]

Though I'd laugh if it was Snape, I doubt its actually him. I don't think he's a half blood.

If you remember, in OOTP Snape called Harrys mother a "filthy mudblood" so I doubt he'd have called her that if he himself was only a half blood as well.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well
Voldemort is a half-blood himself so who knows. And he calls people mudblood (COS comes to mind). Right now I think it is going to be Lupin but that is just my guess.