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TCM'74
Jan 2nd, 2004, 02:56:21 PM
Enraging Australian authorities and people all over the world, recalling an earlier incident with Jackson dangling child over German balcony...


Irwin's baby in croc shock (http://entertainment.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4459,8306769%255E10431%255E%255Enbv,00.html)

What an self-centered MORON!

imported_Grev Drasen
Jan 2nd, 2004, 03:23:16 PM
Originally posted by TCM'74
What an self-centered MORON! He was careless, that doesn't exactly equate to him being a moron. You, along with the media, seem to enjoy blowing things out of proportion when it's really trivial.

Dasquian Belargic
Jan 2nd, 2004, 03:24:40 PM
He's a trained professional. He knows what he's doing.

:mneh

TCM'74
Jan 2nd, 2004, 03:44:01 PM
Bottom line, people, that baby is not a trained professional neither does the child have any comprehesion or grasp of what potential or foolish danger his own father placed him in. It's about common sense and not risking the lives of the helpless. Also about setting examples on safety and wholesome sound principals. Don't any of you get it?!?!?! GEEZ!!!!

Dasquian Belargic
Jan 2nd, 2004, 03:46:20 PM
I don't think he would put his child in any danger intentionally. He seems crazy on the outside, but I'm sure he's an entirely stable individual. No need to get all antsy about it.

TCM'74
Jan 2nd, 2004, 03:51:15 PM
No, it was not intentional. But no month old baby belongs in a croc pen, no matter who is occupying the child. Not even a teenager belongs in a croc pen and they would have a stronger grasp of the risk and danger involved. Only professionals, trained professionals should enter such animal santuraries. But a month old child's safety and well being entirely depends upon a guardian.

Dasquian Belargic
Jan 2nd, 2004, 04:12:34 PM
Do crocs regularly attack people?

ReaperFett
Jan 2nd, 2004, 05:01:09 PM
More people are attacked by dogs than by Crocs. Noone ever says "MORON MAN TOOK KID NEAR DOG!".

imported_J'ktal Anajii
Jan 2nd, 2004, 05:05:57 PM
With Irwin there, that baby was in no danger whatsoever. Steve's parents did much the same thing with him as a child. The man knows animals, particularily reptiles. If he deems it safe, then I believe him. It really is as simple as that.

Lilaena De'Ville
Jan 2nd, 2004, 05:09:02 PM
Originally posted by J'ktal Anajii
With Irwin there, that baby was in no danger whatsoever. Steve's parents did much the same thing with him as a child. The man knows animals, particularily reptiles. If he deems it safe, then I believe him. It really is as simple as that. I agree completely. This may indeed be an extreme case, but can't we just let parents do what they want?

If Steve was dangling him dangerously from his arm, OVER the croc, or over a balcony, then yes, that's obviously unsafe. Jacko did *not* have a good grip on his child when he dangled him over the balcony. Jacko is also insane.

Steve Irwin might be a daredevil, but I highly doubt he'd put his child at risk on purpose.

JMK
Jan 2nd, 2004, 05:24:46 PM
Irwin has done this stunt hundreds of times in his life, granted minus the child. And so have the crocs. They know what a dead chicken looks like and they want that dead chicken in their mouth. The baby wasn't in any danger of being eaten, it's just people looking to make a lot of noise about what wasn't the greatest decision ever, but Irwin was still fully in control. It's not like the Jackson incident where the distance to the ground was the danger and death was certain.

imported_Eve
Jan 2nd, 2004, 05:34:25 PM
Irwin is a pure and good man. Don't even be getting on him. There are other things in this world to worry about.

i guess no one can run from the media - even this guy who devotes his life to conservation and caring for others.

Shame on you for taking part in the bandwagon to tarnish his good name.

Figrin D'an
Jan 2nd, 2004, 05:45:51 PM
Originally posted by JMK
Irwin has done this stunt hundreds of times in his life, granted minus the child. And so have the crocs. They know what a dead chicken looks like and they want that dead chicken in their mouth. The baby wasn't in any danger of being eaten, it's just people looking to make a lot of noise about what wasn't the greatest decision ever, but Irwin was still fully in control. It's not like the Jackson incident where the distance to the ground was the danger and death was certain.


This pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.

Probably not the best decision, at least in my opinion, but Irwin knows how to handle crocs and what constitutes a dangerous situation involving them. Both he and his wife felt their child was never in any danger. I'm not going to question how they raise their own children, considering that dealing with wildlife is what they do for a living.

Daiquiri Van-Derveld
Jan 2nd, 2004, 07:25:23 PM
Irwin knows what hes doing......but! that hasnt stopped him form getting bitten in the past by crocs, snakes, etc. And those are times he thought nothing would go wrong - which isnt to say that he didnt think anything could go wrong.

No, I dont think he would ever intentionally harm his child or anyone else but all of us know the freaky things that can happen in life (especially with kids) and this just wasnt too intelligent on his part.

JediBoricua
Jan 2nd, 2004, 08:48:51 PM
He could talk with crocs for all I care, but putting your child in such dangerous circumstances is really stupid, extremely stupid.

There is no defending this. We've all seen footage of animals going crazy, with wildlife there is nothing certain. Trained animals have been known to attack their trainers and such.

ReaperFett
Jan 2nd, 2004, 09:28:41 PM
Originally posted by JediBoricua
There is no defending this. We've all seen footage of animals going crazy, with wildlife there is nothing certain. Trained animals have been known to attack their trainers and such.
And dogs have been known to bite kids, I don't see anyone calling people who let them near dogs reckless.

Irwin was standing a fair distance away and dropped it from height into the Crocodiles mouth. I don't see the major danger. It's not like he dangled the kid over it's mouth.

Marcus Telcontar
Jan 3rd, 2004, 12:32:57 AM
Irwin might be a nut, but he knows clearly what he is doing. Big deal. Other adults keave kids in cars which is frankly more dangerous. Please rant about them too for balance.

TCM'74
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:39:59 AM
It is reckless child endangerment, anyway you cut it! This was a completely unnecessary and foolish act.

Let's shed some light here folks -- would you let Irwin take one of your children into the croc pen -- a month old no less. HELL NO!

Same principal applies -- authorities are treating this incident as if it involved one of their own dear children.

Those other examples given in this thread are just the trials of human stupidity and case in point -- Irwin just joined their numbers. With wildlife santuraries such as this -- safety and control always come first. For both animal and captor. Never compromised.

imported_J'ktal Anajii
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:49:18 AM
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Dude, drop it already. You're the only person who has a problem with this. If that was my kid in there instead of his, I'd still feel quite fine, knowing that Steve is a master at what he does.

Go make fun of somebody that deserves it. Like Coldplay.

Marcus Telcontar
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:52:02 AM
Go make fun of somebody that deserves it. Like Coldplay.

TRUTH!!!

Irvin with baby in a croc pit is safe. I've already named one thing much worse.

TCM'74
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:52:43 AM
I am the only one that has a problem with this? No, not hardly. Irwin would not be allowed to touch a hair of my kids. This is nearly as bad as strapping a carseat and baby onto the passenger door of a vehicle.

Marcus Telcontar
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:54:19 AM
Then would you leave your kids with Michael Jackson?

imported_J'ktal Anajii
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:55:09 AM
How about Roman Polanski?

TCM'74
Jan 3rd, 2004, 01:57:01 AM
What does Jackson or Polanski have to do with this? And the answer is no -- that is just as condemnating as allowing babies enter croc pens isn't it.

imported_J'ktal Anajii
Jan 3rd, 2004, 02:01:34 AM
And what about leaving cabinets containing cleaning supplies that contain deadly chemicals unlatched when there is a toddler roaming about the house?

Or not supervising children around your family pool?

Listen, I have great respect for Steve Irwin. Think about it, he's immersing his kid in what he loves, and teaching him from day one, essentially. That is how things used to be. Hunters would take their sons out on a hunt at a VERY early age. Craftsmen would teach their children their trade from birth. You think crocodiles are dangerous, what do you know about being a stonemason? Were this even fifty years ago there would be little upset about this incident. Life can be dangerous, but if you can control your situation, then you are far safer. Steve is a good guy, and I can't fault him for sharing the family business with, well, family.

TCM'74
Jan 3rd, 2004, 02:07:31 AM
You just don't get it do you? Sure life is full of hazards and there are potential dangers lurking everyday. So! So that justifies pushing your luck, playing with fire, as you pointed out in the last three posts or so. There are accidental incidents and there is blatant parental negligence, DON'T CONFUSE THEM BUDDY! Be a responsible parent.

imported_J'ktal Anajii
Jan 3rd, 2004, 02:17:35 AM
You can beat a dead horse all day long and it still won't take you where you want to go. Steve grew up in similar fashion as to how he is raising his kid. He is one of the toughest, most resilient, and good-hearted people I can see in the media today. He's also very smart, and knows a heck of a lot more about crocs than we ever will.

I'll say it again, he's the master, and if he deemed it okay, I will have to agree with him. There was no danger.

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I'm done with this argument.