Behold, the new look of the Cizerack

[Charley]

Actually, its the same look, but with live action pics. Close enough.

One of my big childhood fascinations and one of the major influences for the Cizerack (next to Outlaw Star) has been the miniseries/series V.

So, I'm now going to start using some modified pictures of the Sirian Visitors from the show. Here's a little example:

<img src=http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=609509>

I'm going to start screencapping and altering shots of the Sirians, and S'Ilancy is doing concept sketches for the Cizerack Hunter Forces uniforms, based on the show. If you'd like to use an altered screencap for a new character, let me know.

[Aki]

Schweet!

Too bad i don't really play my Ciz, at like all.


And the hell is/was V?

[Charley]

V was a sci-fi miniseries that was shown on NBC in 1983. Its kinda like Independance Day, except not sucky.

The premise is that mankind is suddenly visited by extraterrestrials, in 50 3-mile long ships, which begin to hover over every major city on earth. These visitors, from the star system Sirius, look like us, and have embraced our culture, wishing us peace and goodwill. They say they require a certain chemical which we can make, that will help to save their dying planet, when in reality, they are fascist reptilian aliens, disguised in false skin. Also, they are after our water and ready to enslave humanity, as shock troops, slave labor, and even a food supply. They begin slowly by persecuting and turning the human race against the scientific minds of the day, carrying out a holocaust against them. From there, they corrupt the nations of earth into turning the planet into a puppet state, with martial law quickly silencing all who oppose them.

The whole story is an allegorical retelling of the events in 1930's Weimar Germany, as the Nazi party began its rise to power, even down to little events like Kristalnacht, Triumph of the Will, and the Hitlerjungen (Hitler Youth)

[imported_Grev Drasen]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085106/

A simple search is all it took.

Looks good, Charley. Better than the anime, imo. Though I despise anime.

Edit: N/m, looks like he beat me to it.

[Estelle Russard]

That looks pretty cool, but I have to say, Im kinda fond of my Kajeela pic. She's hard to beat :)

[Cizerack Hunter Forces]

No worries. Not saying that people have to give their stuff up. Its all preference

Here's another photo manip I've done...this time of a male centurion.

<img src=http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=609543>

[Lilaena De'Ville]

They don't look kitty enough to me. *shrug*

[Cizerack Hunter Forces]

What would you suggest then? This is pretty consistent with my mental conception of them.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I don't suggest. I just said my opinion. You may do what you like, but their faces are too square or something. The nose doesn't seem right, and the glasses are awful. The glasses are granted, minor. :p

[Taylor Millard]

I dunno, I think they work well enough. Could be a whole lot worse (imo). It lookfs fine.

[Cizerack Hunter Forces]

I tried to use the smudge tool to give their eyes a more asian look, but it doesn't work very well. Sculpting the face would be far more difficult than that. Lets just say that like humans, no two Cizerack faces are alike ;)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

*shrug* :)

[Daiquiri Van-Derveld]

:love Frank Ashmore = Martin, mah fav V :love

[Cizerack Hunter Forces]

Martin was pretty cool. Definitely a shocker.

Here's a male worker ^_^;

<img src=http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=609558>

[Cizerack Hunter Forces]

The Cizerack Hunter Forces debark from their shuttle and assemble on the tarmac.

<img src=http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=609560>

[Tear]

With the baseball caps and the glasses...like redneck Cizerack

[imported_Reshmar]

Are you going to take our water and store us as food?
Hey V is cool im going to go watch it now. no wait too long. and im sleepy. I think it looks good though. May try adding some Furr around the neck and checkbones.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I hate the glasses and the baseball hats. :o sorry! it's true!

[Dasquian Belargic]

the female looks really good :) so does the male worker

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Tear
With the baseball caps and the glasses...like redneck Cizerack

Erwin Rommel and those crazy Afrika Corps guys would like to take a moment to disagree with you.

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[Marcus Telcontar]

Reminds me far too strongly of Star Trek of the 60's.

and that INSHO, is a bad, bad thing. I'm sorry, but the new look is a big step backwards. Unless you get them looking more feline and less like a bad makeup job.

[ReaperFett]

Originally posted by Sanis Prent
Erwin Rommel and those crazy Afrika Corps guys would like to take a moment to disagree with you.

<img src=http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=609604>
You know you're a redneck Nazi when.....

;)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Originally posted by Marcus Elessar
Reminds me far too strongly of Star Trek of the 60's.

and that INSHO, is a bad, bad thing. I'm sorry, but the new look is a big step backwards. Unless you get them looking more feline and less like a bad makeup job.

[Crystal]

It's.. intresting. I think you did a good job with the pictures.

I'm with Holly though, they don't look enough like cats to me.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Why do they have to be that paticular race from V? They look like regular humans to me.

You could to that to any pic. I don't see (besides the bad uniforms ;)) what's so special about these V guys.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Originally posted by Marcus Elessar
Reminds me far too strongly of Star Trek of the 60's.

Star Wars was made in the 70s. Han Solo's outfit isn't too far off from what you would have seen in Star Trek, IMO. With that in mind, this look "fits" :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Well it doesn't matter, you guys can do what you like. I'm keeping the look my Ciz characters currently have. :)

[Sanis Prent]

That's fine. Do what you want.


Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
Why do they have to be that paticular race from V? They look like regular humans to me.

You could to that to any pic. I don't see (besides the bad uniforms ;)) what's so special about these V guys.

Because the uniforms are fantastic.

Maybe you've failed to notice that (a) They match Ciz color scheme and (b) They are new age emulations of fascist attire.

This is why the look works the way it does.

[Zasz Grimm]

Robert Englund is mineminemine

[Lilaena De'Ville]

The problem with picking them soley for the uniform is...most of the Cizerack characters on the board aren't military. :) It certainly works for those that are.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

s'il has too much nothing to do at work :|

[imported_Reshmar]

Yep Needs more fur.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

ciz dun have fur.

[imported_Reshmar]

then how do they stay warm at night?

[ReaperFett]

Originally posted by Reshmar
then how do they stay warm at night?

Mrs Ciz ;)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

the same way we do.

good, wholesome luvvin

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Blankets and clothes.

Or blankets, and no clothes. :mischief

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Lilaena De'Ville
The problem with picking them soley for the uniform is...most of the Cizerack characters on the board aren't military. :) It certainly works for those that are.


And nowhere did I say that this had to be adopted by all. It goes without saying that such attire would be for those of a military nature.

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by s'Ilancy
s'il has too much nothing to do at work :|


:love you rock the world

[Darth Viscera]

Originally posted by Sanis Prent
new age emulations of fascist attire.

that would be snazzy. long coats and officers' caps. Mass murder aside, the nazis sure did know how to make imposing uniforms.

[Pierce Tondry]

I just don't like the new look. To me, the point of being alien is to be out-and-out alien. These pictures make the Cizerack more like human off-branches and not their own distinct species.

You really need a more catlike species to draw base pictures from, I think.

[Charley]

Originally posted by Pierce Tondry
I just don't like the new look. To me, the point of being alien is to be out-and-out alien. These pictures make the Cizerack more like human off-branches and not their own distinct species.

You really need a more catlike species to draw base pictures from, I think.

What a suprising observation. You may have missed the past 3 or so years of their use, but the formula really hasn't changed at all.

They are humanoid. Thats kinda the idea of it all. The only thing that's changed is the medium in which I'm presenting them.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

this is fun :D

[Charley]

Originally posted by s'Ilancy
this is fun :D

:love

You are too cool

[Darth Viscera]

You could hang a coat on those ears!

[Pierce Tondry]

Originally posted by Agent Charley
What a suprising observation. You may have missed the past 3 or so years of their use, but the formula really hasn't changed at all.

Not touching this except to say I haven't missed the past three or so years and you REALLY could stand to not be insulting about how you express things.


They are humanoid. Thats kinda the idea of it all. The only thing that's changed is the medium in which I'm presenting them.

I got the impression from the anime shots that they were about halfway cat. Now maybe it's just the way those pictures were originally drawn, or maybe it's the way they were adapted for use. Either way, they conveyed a feral feline quality that I appreciated.

I don't see it in the new stuff. It looks out-and-out fake to me.

[Charley]

sorry for being snappy

[Lilaena De'Ville]

They are cat-like humanoids. Humanoid != looks like a human. It = two arms, two legs, stands upright and has some sort of head on the end of their necks. Jawa's are humanoid. Hutts are not.

[Charley]

Yeah, but they really don't look all that different from the previous animated Cizerack, except that one's animated and one isn't.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I think it's the noses :p

[Sorreessa Tarrineezi]

think I'll stick to anime.....

[Hina Amaterasu]

Nose, chins, and the bad 30-second booth-tan look Imo. Don't exactly have much in the way of pictures to work with, or drive to go out and find new ones, but here's an attempt =/

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I think it's the noses :p

i can fix that you know :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

The asian one is pretty cool...

And fix it then!! :p :hug

[Jarek T'chort]

I thought they look pretty much how I envisioned them, except with cat noses.

[Miryan no Trunks]

Another new ciz pic. I like this one.

Edit: Uploaded the wrong pic, and can't edit with a new attachment o.o Deleted!

[Miryan no Trunks]

Here we go: Another new ciz pic.

[Tear]

Whoa.. Thats scarey..keep the catnip away..just keep it away

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Don't be silly....Cizerack don't have fur... :mneh


...scary as all hell though. :eek

[Estelle Russard]

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That one soooo makes me think of Cirr. Only not as muscley. :)


The only thing I find with the human ones, is they dont seem to have as hard an edge as the anime ones do. But that last one sil did and the oriental one are closer to it, imo.

[Kelt Simoson]

The Asian one was much better Aye :)