NFL Week 13 Picks FIRST PICKS 12.30PM ET THURSDAY

[Figrin D'an]

Alright everyone... pay attention, or you'll get behind by a couple of games. As is tradition on Thanksgiving, Detriot and Dallas host games. Because of the short turnaround between picks threads, this week's slate will be handled similar to Week 1, when the season opened on a Thursday.

You have two options:

1) Pick the Thursday games first, then in a separate post, pick the remaining games.

-OR-

2) Pick all of the games for Week 13 in one post.


Either option is acceptible. Just remember not to edit your post once the games begin, or you will forfeit the picks made in that post.

Thursday games must be submitted by 12:30PM ET on Thursday. Remaining games must be submitted by 1PM ET on Sunday.




Thanksgiving Day (Thursday)

Green Bay at Detroit
Miami at Dallas


Sunday, Early

New England at Indianapolis
Minnesota at St. Louis
Buffalo at NY Giants
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
Philadelphia at Carolina
San Francisco at Baltimore
Atlanta at Houston
Arizona at Chicago


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Washington
Denver at Oakland
Kansas City at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle


Sunday Night

Tampa Bay at Jacksonville


Monday Night

Tennessee at NY Jets

[Syo]

Green Bay
Dallas
Indianapolis
St. Louis
NY Giants
Cincinnati
Carolina
Baltimore
Houston
Chicago
New Orleans
Denver
Kansas City
Seattle
Tampa Bay
Tennessee

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Green Bay
Dallas




Indianapolis
Minnesota
Buffalo <--- too bad I won't be at college to win this. My fav team (bills) -vs- my roomy's/everybody's on the floor favorite team. (bunch of city/long islanders! *shakes fist*)

Cincinnati
Carolina
Baltimore
Atlanta
Chicago



Washington
Denver
Kansas City
Seattle




Tampa Bay




Tennessee

[Jedieb]

Thanksgiving Day
Green Bay
@$%^!( I keep wanting to pick Dallas but Miami's corners are probably going to make the difference. The Fins can stop Dallas from running which will force Carter to throw. He's a MUCH better QB than last year, but ANY QB can struggle against Miami's secondary. Dallas' defense should keep the game close, but I think Miami will be able to eek out enough of an offense, especially with Fiedler back, to win the game. Still, Parcells has them believing they can beat anybody. I just don't know what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ah screw it, T-Buck takes a chance and gets burned by Glenn or Galoway, Cowboys win it in the 4th quarter.)
Cowboys!!!!

Sunday, Early
New England
St. Louis
NY Giants
Cincinnati
Philadelphia
Baltimore
Houston
Chicago

Sunday, Late
Washington
Denver
Kansas City
Seattle
Sunday Night
Tampa Bay

Monday Night
Tennessee

[Ryan Pode]

Thanksgiving Day (Thursday)

Green BayWin at Detroit
Miami at Dallas Win


Sunday, Early

New EnglandWin at Indianapolis
Minnesota at St. Louis Win
Buffalo at NY Giants Win
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Win
Philadelphia at Carolina Win
San Francisco at BaltimoreWin
Atlanta at Houston I will not pick until I know if Vick is starting
ArizonaWin at Chicago


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at WashingtonWin
DenverWin at Oakland
Kansas City at San DiegoWin (Doug Flutie is da man)
Cleveland at SeattleWin


Sunday Night

Tampa BayWin at Jacksonville


Monday Night

TennesseeWin at NY Jets

[Figrin D'an]

Thanksgiving Day (Thursday)

Green Bay (W) at Detroit
Miami (W) at Dallas


Sunday, Early

New England at Indianapolis (W)
Minnesota at St. Louis (W)
Buffalo at NY Giants (W)
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (W)
Philadelphia (W) at Carolina
San Francisco (W) at Baltimore
Atlanta at Houston (W)
Arizona (W) at Chicago


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Washington (W)
Denver (W) at Oakland
Kansas City (W) at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle (W)


Sunday Night

Tampa Bay (W) at Jacksonville


Monday Night

Tennessee (W) at NY Jets


This could be the make-or-break week for a lot of people. There are lot of tough picks.

[Daiquiri Van-Derveld]

Packers
Dolphins


Colts
Rams
Giants
Bengals
Panthers
9ers
Houston (lol, whats their name again??)
Bears

Skins
Raiders (I may change this)
Chiefs
Seahawks
Buchs

Titans

[Jedi Master Carr]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
Kansas City at San DiegoWin (Doug Flutie is da man)


You are really bold, SD defense stinks KC should score 40 on that horrible D, plus Flutie hasn't looked too hot the last two weeks.

[Ryan Pode]

You digress from the real facts here. Doug Flutie is the MAN. And if San Diego wins, it'll be tight.

[Jedi Master Carr]

He is a 40 + yo man that is a problem. Really SD can't win in a scoring contest if they have to pass the ball to win they just won't it will be 44-24 KC that is just the way it is. The only chance SD has is to run Thomblison and try to slow the game down. Still SD's defense is horrible one of the worst in the NFL so I expect KC to come out scoring early.

[JMK]

Thanksgiving Day (Thursday)

Green Bay (W) at Detroit
Miami (W) at Dallas


Sunday, Early

New England at Indianapolis (W)
Minnesota at St. Louis (W)
Buffalo at NY Giants (W)
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh (W)
Philadelphia (W) at Carolina
San Francisco at Baltimore (W)
Atlanta (W) at Houston
Arizona at Chicago (W)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans at Washington (W)
Denver (W) at Oakland
Kansas City (W) at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle (W)


Sunday Night

Tampa Bay (W) at Jacksonville


Monday Night

Tennessee (W) at NY Jets

[jjwr]

Green Bay(W) at Detroit
Miami(W) at Dallas
New England(W) at Indianapolis
Minnesota at St. Louis(W)
Buffalo(W) at NY Giants
Cincinnati(W) at Pittsburgh
Philadelphia at Carolina(W)
San Francisco(W) at Baltimore
Atlanta at Houston(W)
Arizona at Chicago(W)
New Orleans at Washington(W)
Denver(W) at Oakland
Kansas City(W) at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle(W)
Tampa Bay(W) at Jacksonville
Tennessee(W) at NY Jets

[Jedi Master Carr]

Green Bay W at Detroit
Miami at Dallas W


Sunday, Early

New England W at Indianapolis
Minnesota at St. Louis W
Buffalo W at NY Giants
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh W
Philadelphia W at Carolina
San Francisco at Baltimore W
Atlanta at Houston W
Arizona at Chicago W

Sunday, Late

New Orleans W at Washington
Denver at Oakland W
Kansas City W at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle W

Sunday Night

Tampa Bay W at Jacksonville

Monday Night

Tennessee at NY Jets W

[Jedi Master Carr]

People might think I am nuts to pick the Jets over the titans. But Mcnair won't play which will hurt them IMO.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Green Bay WIN at Detroit
Miami WIN at Dallas

New England WIN at Indianapolis
Minnesota at St. Louis WIN
Buffalo WIN at NY Giants
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh WIN
Philadelphia WIN at Carolina
San Francisco WIN at Baltimore
Atlanta at Houston WIN
Arizona at Chicago WIN

New Orleans at Washington WIN
Denver at Oakland WIN
Kansas City WIN at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle WIN

Tampa Bay WIN at Jacksonville

Tennessee WIN at NY Jets

[Ryan Pode]

Do not underestimate the power of the Flutie.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well don't forget about SD's terrible defense :)

[Ryan Pode]

You can win a game on offense.

[Jedi Master Carr]

SD won't win in a shootout KC's offense is too good. As I said the only way they will beat KC is by slowing the game down, which I suspect Marty will try at least but knowing how much of a moron he is he will mess it up :p Actually the only hope for the chargers will be when they finally fire that idiot Schottenhiemer.

[ReaperFett]

Green Bay
Miami

New England
St. Louis
NY Giants
Pittsburgh
Carolina
San Francisco
Houston
Chicago

Washington
Denver
Kansas City
at Seattle

Tampa Bay

Tennessee

[Taylor Millard]

Thanksgiving Day (Thursday)

Green Bay
As long as Leon Lett doesn't get on the field...Dallas


Sunday, Early

New England
St. Louis
Buffalo
Cincinnati
Carolina
Baltimore
Houston
Arizona


Sunday, Late

New Orleans
Oakland
Kansas City
Seattle


Sunday Night

Tampa Bay


Monday Night

Tennessee

[Master Yoghurt]

Thanksgiving Day (thursday):

Green Bay (W) at Detroit
Miami at Dallas (W)

[Figrin D'an]

Just as a quick reminder, don't forget to contribute to the Campbell's Soup "Click for Cans" (http://www.chunky.com/click_for_cans.asp) competition. Each click on a helmet logo gives a can of soup to charities helping those in need. So, support your team and the needy during the holiday season. :)

[JMK]

Ok, I know Favre's thumb is still sore, but Green Bay's OL was simply pathetic.

[Master Yoghurt]

Man, that was a bad finish for GB

[Figrin D'an]

I was surprised Green Bay couldn't run the ball effectively. They were flat early, and though the defense got better later in the game, the offense put them in awful positions, allowing Detriot to get easy points.

I agree... after playing so well for the past 5 weeks, the O-Line was terrible.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think they thought they could beat Detroit by just showing up which is a huge mistake on Thanksgiving day considering you knew Detroit would be motivated. Still GB is not out of it they got to play Chicago, Oakland, San Diego, and Denver all four they could win. Three of them are terrible and Denver looks like is falling apart. And I know for a fact Minnesota will lose two more games, I am certain St. Louis will blow them out and KC can beat them in a few weeks too.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Man Dallas is getting killed I am shocked about the way they are playing.

[JMK]

I can't believe the way the Dolphins are playing. I haven't seen them look this good on offense in the past couple years. Though I'm not counting out a Parcells coached team yet.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Wait, I thought Dallas had a top notched defense? Maimi ate them up and chewed them out.

Ah well, 0-2 to start the week. w00tw00t

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think Dallas is just not that good. I'd say Philadelphia will catch them now. Actually the NFC looks horrible the Eagles might be the best team in the conference and could easily win it.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

The Eagles? *shudder*

Actually, I was surprised that they had a good a record as they do. I won't put any money into a team in the NFC yet though. Philly's got a tough game this weekend against Carolina.


*blinks*

Whoever thought a game against Carolina would be tough? o_O

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think Philadelphia is playing great right now Mcnabb has finally woke up. What is sad is I think the NFC is going to get crushed in the SB. I think the Chiefs, Titans, Patriots and Colts could all kill the top 4 teams in the NFC in the SB.

[Ryan Pode]

AFC teams have always been more better IMHO.

[CMJ]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
AFC teams have always been more better IMHO.

Always?

Super Bowls won
NFC 21
AFC 16

Yeah...you're right. :p

[Daiquiri Van-Derveld]

Hasnt it only been in the past few years that the AFC has picked up their last wins?

[CMJ]

SuperBowls won - going off my memory, so if it's wrong be easy.

I - NFC (Packers)
II - NFC (Packers)
III- AFC (Jets)
IV - AFC (Chiefs)
V - AFC (Colts)
VI - NFC (Cowboys)
VII - AFC (Dolphins)
VIII - AFC (Dolphis)
IX - AFC (Steelers)
X - AFC (Steelers)
XI - AFC (Raiders)
XII - NFC (Cowboys)
XIII - AFC (Steelers)
XIV - AFC (Steelers)
XV - NFC (49ers)
XVI - AFC (Raiders)
XVII - NFC (Redskins)
XVIII - AFC (Raidsers)
XIX - NFC (49ers)
XX - NFC (Bears)
XXI - NFC (Giants)
XXII - NFC (Redskins)
XXIII - NFC (49ers)
XXIV - NFC (49ers)
XXV - NFC (Giants)
XXVI - NFC (Redskins)
XXVII - NFC (Cowboys)
XXVIII- NFC (Cowboys)
XXIX - NFC (49ers)
XXX - NFC (Cowboys)
XXXI - NFC (Packers)
XXXII - AFC (Broncos)
XXXIII - AFC (Broncos)
XXXIV - NFC (Rams)
XXXV - AFC (Ravens)
XXXVI - AFC(Patriots)
XXXVII - NFC (Bucaneers)

[Jedi Master Carr]

The AFC has won 4 out of the last 6 I think they are the better conference now but the NFC was the dominant conference during the 80's and much of the 90's

[Daiquiri Van-Derveld]

Oy! I had it completely backwards, didnt I? :lol Thanks, CMJ :) Thats all from memory?? Wow!

JMC, youre right about the 80's and 90's, especially with the 9ers and the Cowboys dominating during that time :)

I miss my Tom Rathman :(

[JMK]

CMJ is the Stat Man, ask him to list the top 25 racehorses of all time, he can probably do that from memory too. ;)

[CMJ]

My goal in life is to be the new stat boy on PTI. ;)

[JMK]

:lol Be sure to hook me up with a job once you get there! I'd love to work for the fat, orange and bald man!

[Ryan Pode]

What can I say, I'm a Baltimore fan. The NFC means nothing to me... Unless the Ravens play an NFC team... which they seem to be doing in these later november games.

[CMJ]

Originally posted by Ryan Pode
What can I say, I'm a Baltimore fan. The NFC means nothing to me... Unless the Ravens play an NFC team... which they seem to be doing in these later november games.

Once again, your homer-ism rears it's head. ;) Don't make blanket statements, when the facts don't support ya.

[Ryan Pode]

Ahh but the facts do. In my world.

[Master Yoghurt]

Sunday, Early

New England at Indianapolis (W)
Minnesota at St. Louis (W)
Buffalo at NY Giants (W)
Cincinnati (W) at Pittsburgh
Philadelphia at Carolina (W)
San Francisco at Baltimore (W)
Atlanta at Houston (W)
Arizona at Chicago (W)


Sunday, Late

New Orleans (W) at Washington
Denver (W) at Oakland
Kansas City (W) at San Diego
Cleveland at Seattle (W)


Sunday Night

Tampa Bay (W) at Jacksonville


Monday Night

Tennessee (W) at NY Jets

[Ryan Pode]

Since I can't edit my earlier post, I pick Houston over Atlanta.

[Ryan Pode]

Poop. 28-24. Doug Flutie... almost. :(

[Jedi Master Carr]

It wasn't even almost that last TD came as time expired so the game wasn't that close. Actually Flutie killed their chances fumbling the ball away and then Chiefs scored a TD to put the game away.

[Ryan Pode]

Yeah, I didn't watch it. I was watching the Ravens pound that excuse of a football team.

[Figrin D'an]

I feel the need to point out a detail that was listed in the first post of this week's picks thread.



Originally posted by Figrin D'an

Either option is acceptible. Just remember not to edit your post once the games begin, or you will forfeit the picks made in that post.

Thursday games must be submitted by 12:30PM ET on Thursday. Remaining games must be submitted by 1PM ET on Sunday.





I'll post the weeks results after Monday Night Football.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Who did it? edit I see JMK edited it last night, that sucks I guess he forgot. Shouldn't you just not count his Thanksgiving games? His other picks did get posted before the sunday games started.

[Ryan Pode]

Who called Buccs to win it all this year? Eb was it? I laugh at you sir.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Now to be fair most people thought they be better than this. I didn't think they make the SB again but I though they get to the playoffs I didn't see them falling like this. Also what about the Jets and Titans what an ugly first half. Mcnair and Pennington both have played awful.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Wild game Jets spoiled the titans there. I think Tennessee took them too lightly now this helps out the Chiefs and Patriots, the patriots have a tie breaker over both the Colts and Titans so if they end up tied they get the tie breaker. The chiefs now have a two game edge over Tenn and Indy and a game over NE. Also I got lucky I picked the upset of the week :)

[Figrin D'an]

Week 13 Results:

Syo: 9-7
Nathanial K'cansce: 7-9
Jedieb: 10-6
Ryan Pode: 6-10
Figrin D'an: 7-9
Daiquiri: 7-9
JMK: 7-7 (minus Thanksgiving Day picks)
jjwr: 10-6
Jedi Master Carr: 11-5
Lilaena De'Ville: 9-7
ReaperFett: 8-8
Taylor: 9-7
Master Yoghurt: 9-7



Updated Season Totals:

Master Yoghurt: 133-59
jjwr: 132-60
Jedi Master Carr: 127-65
Jedieb: 123-69
ReaperFett: 120-72
Figrin D'an: 118-74
Taylor Millard: 118-74
Nathanial K'cansce: 114-78
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JMK: 123-67
Lilaena De'Ville: 103-74
Daiquiri: 109-66
Ryan Pode: 101-90
Sene Unty: 71-29
Syo: 50-26
Morgan Evanar: 30-16
Blade Ice: 9-7
Kale: 7-9

[Jedi Master Carr]

Maybe I can make a comeback, I am 6 games back it is possible. Man next week is going to be tough a lot of big games

Miami vs New England
Kansas City vs Denver
Indy vs Tennessee
Cincinnatti vs Baltimore
Dallas vs Philadelphia

That is a lot huge important games.

[jjwr]

Next week is huge. While the Pats don't need the Miami wiin it would make things a whole lot easier if they can take them down. On the flip side if the Dolphins drop that game they could be tied for the Wildcard and already having lost the division, a lot more pressure as December looms.

Colts vs Titans is another huge one, if the Colts can pull off the win they've got a great shot at the division and at least a 1st round home game while the Titans will be relegated to the WC and a tough road game.

All things considered I gotta cheer for the Bronco's & Titans. I'd much rather keep the Colts down with the lower seed, if they've gotta come to New England in January the Pats chances are definetly improved.

[X.I.M.]

Anyone watch MNF? Chad Pennington continues to impress me for a young quaterback, he really will be the future of this Jet's team. Him and Santana Moss.

Anyone see the pop-up in the air grab Sanatana made from his teamate who fumbled? I think it made SportsCenter's #1 on Top10.

Overall, I thought it was a good game.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I would rather have the Titans on the road in a cold stadium (Arrowhead or Foxboro) either place I am not sure they can win. Although I think the Colts would struggle just as much or maybe more. Right now I think the Chiefs and Pats will be getting the first round byes although nothing is guarenteed.

[Ryan Pode]

I think I might be at the Cinci - Baltimore game. That would be uber sexy if I was... so they better win.