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Sheyleigh Castille
Nov 12th, 2003, 11:22:32 AM
My fiance's comp. See, he downloaded some stuff from Earthlink (his net provider) and ever since doing that, images look all funky now.

One of the things he downloaded is something that is suppose to be an accelerator, (I don't notice any difference to be honest). Another is a pop-up blocker. Anyways, now images on websites or when viewing your custom sigs here ... they look all funky.

Let me see if I can explain how the images look and make sense doing it :rolleyes

For those who work in PSP and PS, you might understand what I'm talking about ...

Poor pic quality, like when saving images and trying to keep the kb size down .. you know how if the kb size is too little the pic looks all ... 'fuzzy'..?

Ugh! I hope someone gets what I'm trying to say here >_<

Anyways, that's what the pics look like. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this .. maybe?

Morgan Evanar
Nov 12th, 2003, 11:51:38 AM
Uninstall?

Charley
Nov 12th, 2003, 11:52:38 AM
<img src=http://www.sw-fans.net/photopost/data/501/1156Jay.gif>

Ok...

...maybe a screenshot?

imported_Firebird1
Nov 12th, 2003, 12:01:42 PM
He (or the program) may of set a compression value wrong, just have him uninstall and reinstall the program.

OR

Have him go to Earthlink's support page and see if they have an answer.

Pierce Tondry
Nov 12th, 2003, 12:21:00 PM
I'm inclined to think Morg and Firebird are right on those suggestions. Internet accelerator programs usually compress down data for faster transfers and it sounds like your images aren't being properly restored from that compression.

I'd first uninstall the program and see if everything rights itself. It could be another problem but that's probably not the case. Then, if you're really keen to have the accelerator program on there, reinstall it and check the images again. If they're still misbehaving, contact Earthlink about it.

Sheyleigh Castille
Nov 12th, 2003, 12:39:25 PM
Yes! It makes them look like that pic Agent Charley posted.

Terrific! Thanks a bunch for the help, guys. I appreciate it very much.

*Runs off to do that now*

Tear
Nov 12th, 2003, 04:25:16 PM
If you try Control Pnael-Visual properties/Display-Settings and check "colors" make sure its ony on something like 16 bit.

If thats doesnt work try System/System properties-Properties-Graphics- Then make sure the acceleration isnt at none. should be at full..

and if none of those help try hitting Start-Run- Then type msconfig- nothing should be unchicked in any of the lists..if something is that could be your problem.

This is for windows 98 im not sure if some things might be different if you using a different operating system.

hope that helps

Marcus Telcontar
Nov 12th, 2003, 06:48:18 PM
Originally posted by Tear
If you try Control Pnael-Visual properties/Display-Settings and check "colors" make sure its ony on something like 16 bit.

If thats doesnt work try System/System properties-Properties-Graphics- Then make sure the acceleration isnt at none. should be at full..

and if none of those help try hitting Start-Run- Then type msconfig- nothing should be unchicked in any of the lists..if something is that could be your problem.

This is for windows 98 im not sure if some things might be different if you using a different operating system.

hope that helps



What?


No.


The correct answer is ditch the accelerator, ditch the pop up blocker, and use Firebird as your browser.


Internet accelerator programs usually compress down data

The only genuine way to compress data is at the protocol, not app layer, if you follw the OSI model. Accelerator programs are a waste of time, do not use, ever, they cause more trouble than they are worth. FYI, You have header and body compression. Most modems / routers will do header compression well and that can give about 12 - 20% difference. Body compression isnt realyl something Windows in my experience does acceptibly. You need a router to set that really well and then, it has quite a big benifit. However, becuase ISP's often charge per Mb, they will not support body compression.

If your really keen to get some speed tho, the first place to hit is the MTU size. AFAIK, Windows 98 defaults to 500, when the real standard is 1492. The TCP stack in 98 isnt really RFC compliant, XP is better. If you realyl want to see a connection fly, try Linux, because its stack is RFC compliant and is set properly in the first place. I believe most accelerator programs will mod the TCP stack settings. Not usually advised at all.

Figrin D'an
Nov 12th, 2003, 07:00:24 PM
Originally posted by Tear
and if none of those help try hitting Start-Run- Then type msconfig- nothing should be unchicked in any of the lists..if something is that could be your problem.



Messing around in msconfig is not something I would recommend to a novice. Just don't even touch it unless you have clear instructions from an experienced user.

Morgan Evanar
Nov 12th, 2003, 07:01:46 PM
I have earthlink and don't use any of their stuff. Its just an internet connection.

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firebird/release-notes.html <-- probably the best browser.

Zasz Grimm
Nov 12th, 2003, 07:04:20 PM
Originally posted by Marcus Elessar
What?


No.


The correct answer is ditch the accelerator, ditch the pop up blocker, and use Firebird as your browser.



The only genuine way to compress data is at the protocol, not app layer, if you follw the OSI model. Accelerator programs are a waste of time, do not use, ever, they cause more trouble than they are worth.



that was about all you needed to say. Help, don't confuse. Some don't understand one word of what you had said. Flex your mental know-how elsewhere.

But other than that- I agree with Mark. You can get rid of your dial up and accelerator (and your second line if you have one) and go broadband / DSL if you can. It's faster. Stick with Firebird / Mozilla as your browser (they have pop-up blockers built in, take less memory, etc. etc.)

Marcus Telcontar
Nov 12th, 2003, 07:34:06 PM
that was about all you needed to say. Help, don't confuse. Some don't understand one word of what you had said. Flex your mental know-how elsewhere.

:rolleyes

While some might get the Luser glazed eyed look, others may want to know stuff like that or it could prompt a tech head to comment further.

And just because I'm in a smart alec kind of mood......

TCP for dummies aka decyphering tech post

A protocol is the language a PC speaks to other PC's across a network. Like languages, this speech has rules. It has formats. It has ways of making sure information gets to the correct place and is understood.

TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol / Internet Protocol) not only works as a language, it also works liek a post office. It sends and recieves information and defines how the info is sent (ie, does it have a stamp, is it the right weight / size etc)

The basic concept of TCP is that info is sent in 'packets', or slices of information. There is two sections to a packet - header (which is like the front of an envelope, it has name, adress and routing information) and a body, in this case that can be compared to the letter inside the envelope.


Compression is very much like writing smaller to remove the white space between letters. The less white space, the more info you can shove into a given area. The protocol of TCP has certain rules about what and what cant be compressed and how it is done. Thence, you can send your letter in a smaller envelope, or have more info in the same sized envelope.

MTU = Maximum Transmission Unit. Basically, it's the size of your writing paper / envelope. Windows 98 would say use an A5 sheet. Linux / XP uses an A3 sheet. So, if you can only send one sheet in one envelope, one at a time, you can get more info sent with the A3.

Imagine a few hundred of these sheets being stuffed into enveloes and shot out your network device every second, then you have a pretty workable analogy on how it all really works.

Tear
Nov 12th, 2003, 07:43:18 PM
Originally posted by Figrin D'an
Messing around in msconfig is not something I would recommend to a novice. Just don't even touch it unless you have clear instructions from an experienced user.

didnt really say mess with it just said check if something is unchecked. and if it is that might be the problem. Installing new software sometimes set up something that may interfere with other software.

And i only mentioned the accelerator because it happened to me when i installed an update to some software it (dont ask me how) set my accelerator down so that no graphic visuals worked at all. I dont know why but it did.

n good god Marcus..lol

Marcus Telcontar
Nov 12th, 2003, 07:49:26 PM
Man, I came off like Morpheous.....

"The protocol is everywhere and it is nowhere. You feel it's transmission units all around, when you post, when you edit. When you delete. When you Email. In the very game you play online. No one can be told what TCP is - you have to set it up for yourself"

imported_Firebird1
Nov 13th, 2003, 01:18:45 PM
Great, next you'll be handing out pills marked IPv4 and IPv6 to people with sunglasses, trenchcoats, and bad attitudes.

Sheyleigh Castille
Nov 13th, 2003, 11:46:31 PM
Oooooooooooooooooooooo kay! After reading all of that and re-reading all that by Marcus I can safely say that I am ...


:\ :\ o_O o_O o_O :rolleyes :rolleyes :crack :crack

However, I do appreciate all of the help and I think if one more thing is uninstalled things should be good again. I probably should have mentioned that we're on windows XP.

*Runs off to play and prays to the powers that be she doesn't get any more confuzzled tonight than she already is* o_O