Figrin D'an
Sep 16th, 2003, 02:48:41 PM
Referencing this (http://www.swforums.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31963) thread...
The main topic isn't what I really care about... we have rules about fights in the bar and getting them approved and such. I would, however, like to bring up something that Lion pointed out in his post.
Originally posted by Lion El' Jonson
Sejah is quite correct. The Bar and Grill's bouncers include Lochabre, who quite literally spends his day pretending to be a statue, and The Shambler, a 12 foot tall monster that'd be quite happy to give you the nickname "Omelette Face". Maybe I mixed them up, I can't remember.
Anyways, weapons of any kind aren't allowed in the Bar and Grill. I believe nasty fights break out in the OOC forums whenever somebody tries to start a fight in the Bar and Grill without permission.
Thirdly, the Bar and Grill is not just for Jedi. It is usually frequented by members of the New Republic Navy, NRSF, SecCorps, the ODST's, and any of 100 other military branches. There's usually a few squads of troops hanging around outside with heavy weapons.
And, as you're not getting acronyms too well...
New Republic Navy: Self Explanatory
NRSF: New Republic Special Forces, the "Railgun Toters"
SecCorps: Sector Corps, the "Force Hunter" boys
ODST's: Orbital Drop Shock Troopers, the infamous "101st Helljumpers", Rapid Deployment Shock Troops
Fourthly, the B&G is located on Coruscant, the seat of the New Republic's Government and the home of the Jedi...not a good idea attracting attention there, even if you want your characters dead: Governments don't take well to organizations whose members start battles in crowded city streets.
There's plenty of other legitimate ways to kill your characters that wouldn't involve this many entanglements. Think of something simple.
And, incidentally, Endless Waltz was a disgrace to the Gundam Wing series and it saddens me that the anime had to end with that as its last hurrah.
There are certain things he mentions here that have really bugged me for a long time.
First of all... the "bouncers." Why do we have two monsters, akin to Rancors, sitting around in a public restaurant? Yeah, sure, the OOC concept of them was rather funny for a while, but realistically... it strikes me as being very dumb. Do we really need them?
Secondly... the NR peoples. I don't have an issue with them hanging around and using it for RP, but I once again find it incredibly unrealistic to have numerous troops from 5 different branches of the NR military walking around, fully armed, in what is essentially a building open to the public. How much IC "security" does the B&G really need? We've got Jedi around all the time, and maybe we have a few armed doorman or something. It's overkill to the extreme, IMO. Everyone knows the OOC rules we have about starting fights in the B&G. It's in the FAQ, and it's posted in the forum itself I believe. Not to mention that, if someone does get permission to start a fight, it's likely to get quashed almost immediately because of the ridiculous number of people that would be ready to pounce on an open fight thread. That makes for a really quick way to kill any fun.
In general, a lot of these outlandish policies that were instituted regarding the B&G are simply outdated now. In the past, when we had issues with people starting fights and doing crazy stuff (like trying to firebomb the building), we countered with crazy stuff in kind (the bouncers, the insane NR presence). I guess I would like to think that RP, and most of it's major participants, have evolved since then, and that our rule base and moderator presence is strong enough to eliminate much of the sketchy and wacked-out reminants from the old days of RP.
Questions, opinions, and/or rude comments are always welcome.
The main topic isn't what I really care about... we have rules about fights in the bar and getting them approved and such. I would, however, like to bring up something that Lion pointed out in his post.
Originally posted by Lion El' Jonson
Sejah is quite correct. The Bar and Grill's bouncers include Lochabre, who quite literally spends his day pretending to be a statue, and The Shambler, a 12 foot tall monster that'd be quite happy to give you the nickname "Omelette Face". Maybe I mixed them up, I can't remember.
Anyways, weapons of any kind aren't allowed in the Bar and Grill. I believe nasty fights break out in the OOC forums whenever somebody tries to start a fight in the Bar and Grill without permission.
Thirdly, the Bar and Grill is not just for Jedi. It is usually frequented by members of the New Republic Navy, NRSF, SecCorps, the ODST's, and any of 100 other military branches. There's usually a few squads of troops hanging around outside with heavy weapons.
And, as you're not getting acronyms too well...
New Republic Navy: Self Explanatory
NRSF: New Republic Special Forces, the "Railgun Toters"
SecCorps: Sector Corps, the "Force Hunter" boys
ODST's: Orbital Drop Shock Troopers, the infamous "101st Helljumpers", Rapid Deployment Shock Troops
Fourthly, the B&G is located on Coruscant, the seat of the New Republic's Government and the home of the Jedi...not a good idea attracting attention there, even if you want your characters dead: Governments don't take well to organizations whose members start battles in crowded city streets.
There's plenty of other legitimate ways to kill your characters that wouldn't involve this many entanglements. Think of something simple.
And, incidentally, Endless Waltz was a disgrace to the Gundam Wing series and it saddens me that the anime had to end with that as its last hurrah.
There are certain things he mentions here that have really bugged me for a long time.
First of all... the "bouncers." Why do we have two monsters, akin to Rancors, sitting around in a public restaurant? Yeah, sure, the OOC concept of them was rather funny for a while, but realistically... it strikes me as being very dumb. Do we really need them?
Secondly... the NR peoples. I don't have an issue with them hanging around and using it for RP, but I once again find it incredibly unrealistic to have numerous troops from 5 different branches of the NR military walking around, fully armed, in what is essentially a building open to the public. How much IC "security" does the B&G really need? We've got Jedi around all the time, and maybe we have a few armed doorman or something. It's overkill to the extreme, IMO. Everyone knows the OOC rules we have about starting fights in the B&G. It's in the FAQ, and it's posted in the forum itself I believe. Not to mention that, if someone does get permission to start a fight, it's likely to get quashed almost immediately because of the ridiculous number of people that would be ready to pounce on an open fight thread. That makes for a really quick way to kill any fun.
In general, a lot of these outlandish policies that were instituted regarding the B&G are simply outdated now. In the past, when we had issues with people starting fights and doing crazy stuff (like trying to firebomb the building), we countered with crazy stuff in kind (the bouncers, the insane NR presence). I guess I would like to think that RP, and most of it's major participants, have evolved since then, and that our rule base and moderator presence is strong enough to eliminate much of the sketchy and wacked-out reminants from the old days of RP.
Questions, opinions, and/or rude comments are always welcome.