View Full Version : Where's the New Republic?
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 05:43:48 PM
Hey all, new addition to your community here. I was wondering if somebody could answer a question for me. Looking at the RP groups, it seems that there are Imperials, Independants, Jedi, Sith, even vampires... but no New Republic or Rebel groups. Why is that?
imported_Marcus
Aug 27th, 2003, 05:45:22 PM
The NR is a sub forum under GJO.
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 05:49:15 PM
*blinks*
o_O
It is?
Oh... well then, i guess that answers that. Thanks :)
MMU
Aug 27th, 2003, 06:26:47 PM
issa new guy!!!
now. get me some tacos
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 06:36:09 PM
Just tacos? What about burritos? Or nachos?
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 06:55:11 PM
And while i'm at it, i'll ask if you guys have a map of the galaxy. Something that shows at a glance who controls which planets and stretches of space, and where borders are?
Morgan Evanar
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:02:33 PM
No. They make no sense.
Ryan Pode
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:05:47 PM
They make plenty of sense.
Hapes has Hapes, Chiss have the Chiss. TIR is in the northern part of the galaxy along with TISy, TIS has a huge part in the southern, Balmorran is in the Balmorran neck of the woods, Ciz have the Cluster (dont know where that is) and the NR has everything else.
Pierce Tondry
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:18:20 PM
It seems simple, but it isn't. If you look at an official map of the SW galaxy, you'll see that in several cases on SWFans, territories overlap and conquests aren't really near each other.
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:48:17 PM
I... see.
That may take some getting used to.
Ryan Pode
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:50:36 PM
I have a very detailed map... that works.
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:58:54 PM
You're a member of the Imperial Sovereignty, aren't you? I PMed your leader about joining. Can you maybe e-mail me a copy of your map for use as refference material? It would be much appreciated.
Adjerban the Interloper
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:16:15 PM
The straight truth is that fleet "roleplay" isn't popular with most of the other RPers here. It has an ugly history.
Regardless of what Ryan claims, the map can't possibly make sense because the territory claimed by any group isn't locationally logical. I would know; I tried to make a map that did it, but when I started I realized within 20 planets that the territorial brakedown made zero sense.
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:20:37 PM
I believe ya. I come from a forum where fleet actions routinely get ugly and devolve into arguments or quibbles over little details. We haven't seen the light yet, though, or most of the posters haven't, and continue to RP fleet actions. *shrugs*It's more simming anyway, which is hard to pull off in a cooperative storytelling environment.
As for maps and the lack of sense in them... ah well. It was worth asking. :p
imported_Marcus
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:22:33 PM
Well, your asking the right questions straight away. Cool.
Ryan Pode
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:31:36 PM
It makes sense for the most part. Telan will respond to you in time.
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:33:35 PM
Oh aye, i know he will. Wasn't impatient or anything. :)
Morgan Evanar
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:34:43 PM
Originally posted by Quatarn *shrugs*It's more simming anyway, which is hard to pull off in a cooperative storytelling environment. Borderline impossible. You'll get no debate from me. I always suggest playing Homeworld instead :D (I love homeworld dearly but am not so good at it.)
As for maps and the lack of sense in them... ah well. It was worth asking. :p It was a valid question. I honestly wish the map wasn't impossible myself, but I can't force planets that people have "earned" out of anyone's hands. Four years is a lot of time to make a mess.
Quatarn
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:39:39 PM
Heck, the other forum i RP on has made plenty of messes and gotten out of them (mostly) in half that time. Difference seems to be that you guys don't go in and change things around every six months, whilst shaking things up is par for the course where i come from. This should be an interesting place to write...
imported_Marcus
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:45:17 PM
Most of us have a decent amount of common sense and ignore things that are absurd, or dont make sense.
imported_STELA'SHLIT'NURUODO
Aug 27th, 2003, 10:14:36 PM
Do like me and just sit and watch everything.
imported_Reshmar
Aug 27th, 2003, 10:29:25 PM
The NR navy is very much alive and kicking.
Ryla Relvinian
Aug 27th, 2003, 10:42:13 PM
Most of us have a decent amount of common sense and ignore things that are absurd, or dont make sense.
...Says the man who is routinely seen with a frying pan in hand...
*whistles innocently*
imported_Marcus
Aug 27th, 2003, 11:32:45 PM
.....
Right now, I'm trying to work out whether that's an ultra sheer g-string (of which I can wedgy) your wearing, or if it's body paint. Or there's a nice FORCE ACME LABS I aint used if it's body paint. You choice - Wedgy or the LAB?
:evil
Ryla Relvinian
Aug 27th, 2003, 11:35:24 PM
Hey, don't get uppity because you know I'm right!
And furthermore, the contents of my pants are none of your business. You'll just have to find out the old-fashioned way.
Buy me a drink! ;)
Loklorien s'Ilancy
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:05:59 AM
AARRRRR!!!!
just watch out fer meself, the dread pirate arya, and bloody jim wofl
imported_Marcus
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:15:44 AM
Yeah, allight ryla, I'll buy you a drink. Have a Jedi toilet Duck. Dont spill any now, it'll burn through the floor. :: insane laughter ::
Silus Xilarian
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:32:14 AM
The Jedi Toilet Duck should be illegal......
*nudges the senate*
Lion El' Jonson
Aug 28th, 2003, 03:10:49 AM
In case you're wondering, I'm currently head of the NR as Leia (yes, all 5 of them...^_^; ) has gone missing and Admiral Ackbar (aka Master Yog) has gone on a vacation that'll probably span a couple of lifetimes. And, I'd say that most of the original fleet RPers that made Fleet RPing hell have been chased away, replaced by a new set of common-sense rules and some fresh meat...:lol
Welcome aboard the SW-Fans boards.
~Lord Admiral Lion El' Jonson~
~Commander In Chief, Outer Rim Assets~
~MC-150 Pride of Caliban, Battlefleet Implacable~
(Morg, you play Homeworld?! Sweetness! I used to think I was pretty good, until I went up against clan [BDU] and Viper in an eight player game. You don't know what hell is until Viper rushes you with 12 Ion Frigates from one angle, followed by Destroyers from another and fighter clouds from a third side. You'll be absolutely swamped.)
imported_Marcus
Aug 28th, 2003, 03:49:21 AM
Luckily, the inventor of the toilet duck doesnt give a 4X what the senate thinks :evil
Morgan Evanar
Aug 28th, 2003, 05:29:59 AM
(Morg, you play Homeworld?! Sweetness! I used to think I was pretty good, until I went up against clan [BDU] and Viper in an eight player game. You don't know what hell is until Viper rushes you with 12 Ion Frigates from one angle, followed by Destroyers from another and fighter clouds from a third side. You'll be absolutely swamped.) Not often. Like I said, I'm pretty bad at it. I love RTSes, but they're not my strong point. I haven't been decent at one since Red Alert
Ryan Pode
Aug 28th, 2003, 07:16:32 AM
Heh... technically, Fleet Admiral Kre'Fey (once the top Admiral in the NR) is still around... though in custody by the Cizerack.
imported_Marcus
Aug 28th, 2003, 07:34:53 AM
kre'fey was the top admiral?????????????????
News to me!
Commander Zemil Vymes
Aug 28th, 2003, 07:41:52 AM
He never was.
Jacob Nives
Aug 28th, 2003, 12:09:13 PM
Welcome a-board th'board...
Originally posted by s'Ilancy
AARRRRR!!!!
just watch out fer meself, the dread pirate arya, and bloody jim wofl
... YARRR *squint!*
Pierce Tondry
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:01:20 PM
Regardless of what Ryan claims, the map can't possibly make sense because the territory claimed by any group isn't locationally logical. I would know; I tried to make a map that did it, but when I started I realized within 20 planets that the territorial brakedown made zero sense.
One thing I think needs to be considered is that, at the beginning of the board, people were really keen to conquer planets and the like, but no one had even a rough official map of the SW galaxy. So what people did instead was go and conquer the popular or well-known planets mentioned in EU fiction, assuming they had some proximity to each other. By the time the NJO books with rough maps first came out that told everyone how wrong that assumption was, territories were set in such an awkward way that no one has been able to untangle them.
In all honesty, I think it would take some of the currently existing groups dissolving and being replaced by others to solve things.
Ryan Pode
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:12:37 PM
Kre'Fey was the acting admiral of fleet before Dodonna while Yog was gone.
Park Kraken
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:19:00 PM
I think they should make a Star Wars version of Homeworld. Build TIE Fighters, and Mole Miners as initial units, then Ore Haulers, TIE Interceptors, Defenders, Scimitars, Adz Patrol Destroyers, Corvettes, Nebulon-B Escort Frigate, Escort Carrier, Dreadnough, Star Destroyer, Super Star Destroyer, etc.
I think I was Fleet Admiral at least once, I took charge while Telan was away on vacation.
Ryan Pode
Aug 28th, 2003, 02:26:12 PM
I've everything... Private to Grand Admiral.
Quatarn
Aug 28th, 2003, 03:15:02 PM
There is a mod for homeworld that will turn it into Star Wars, units and everything. I'll see if i can find the link for you guys.
Quatarn
Aug 28th, 2003, 03:19:24 PM
Here we are:
http://swnr.themaw.net/
Telan Desaria
Aug 28th, 2003, 05:17:29 PM
As a matter of course and a note to my obssesive penchant for order...
I had indeed made a map - based off of a SW canon map modified by a friend. The map of the Sovereignty does indeed make sense, and our attacks have been staged to make things logical and rational. While Fleet rping is generally loathed by the community, I am trying to revive it through well thought out stroylines and the company of awesome roleplayers and eager noobs.
Ryanh has the only copy in existence since my comp was fried and crashed. C'est la vie.
Others may plan to attack from Corsucant to Tatooine and move reinforcements in from say Thyferra, but we play by the rules of common sense - I am not going to win a battle by cheating. Our attacks are based on expansion of our borders and the elevation of the state of Empire in our quarter of the galaxy,
Park Kraken
Aug 28th, 2003, 08:41:00 PM
I've made a map from MS Paint. It is very crappy, but gives everyone at least a little idea of where everyone is.
Loklorien s'Ilancy
Aug 28th, 2003, 08:43:08 PM
I still have that map on my comp; i sent it back to you, remember???
Lion El' Jonson
Aug 29th, 2003, 06:28:08 PM
Indeed, it's called Star Wars Fleet Academy. I've played it ever since the beta.
It's an excellent total conversion, but the later versions aren't as much fun as the earlier ones. Early versions of the mod included Super Star Destroyers and Gigantic Mon-Cal Cruisers. They lowered the biggest ships to MC-80s and ISD's, however, because the game lagged and there were software problems when something toting 600 guns showed up.
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