Cripes, Catwoman is going to SUCK

[ReaperFett]

Now only is the story taking NOTHING from the comics or the movies, we now hear Sharon Stone is in talks to be....a cosmetics exec by day and head of a criminal empire by night!



>_< >_< >_<


WHY are they making this movie? Why bother making a movie based around a popular comic character (Heck, even I read Catwoman, and I almost never buy DC) who was also a popular movie character, and then IGNORE the source?

Last time WB made a comic-related thing without using much from the source was the Birds of Prey TV series. Cancelled after one season. Will they never learn?

And of course if it bombs, the WB execs will make excuses blaming the character, instead of them ignoring the source material.



So so far, the DC movies being made are Batman, Superman (In a contest of which has to use Kutcher), Catwoman (Not bothering to use the source) and Constatine (A tough rugged guy? Let's cast Keanu!). I feel sorry for anyone looking forward to their works :)

[jjwr]

DC has some great characters but they're being slaughtered by Marvel right now in the Movie department, they've got the two big Icons in Superman & Batman, it shouldn't be too hard to be competitive with that much name recognition.

[Sejah Haversh]

Just as long as they don't goofy the heck out of it.

What I'd like to see is DC make a movie about Green Lantern, but the Golden Age one, Alan Scott.

Set the movie int he 40's, just before WWII, and toss in some of the supervillains, and it would be a good movie. Heck, as an added bonus, get Brad Pitt to play Alan. I think he could handle it pretty well.

[Lady Vader]

I do not suck! :mad

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Oh, you mean the MOVIE! :D

Seriously, though, I was looking forward to the Catwoman movie, but I had a feeling they'd slaughter it. And I didn't know Stone was the one opting for the part. First I heard it was gonna be some other chic (can't remember her name right now), but i guess she decided not to do it. :\

[BUFFJEDI]

If they want to make money , I hope for there sake they do not use Stone. That would be as bad a Toby as Spiderman. But still NOT as bad as thinking about Cage as superman :(

[Droo]

Halle Berry in skin-tight leather. I'm really not going to complain. :D

Are we anywhere closer to having anyone being casted as Superman yet?

[ReaperFett]

Depends on what rumours you believe. But basically, noone wants to sign up for a possible three movies. Which is strange, as the Marvel movies managed it. They're aiming for the wrong people I suppose.


And hey, don't guarentee skin tight elather just yet. THey'll probably end up making her wear a giant cat costume :)

[Sejah Haversh]

Run for your lives! She's a fursuiter!

[Jedi Master Carr]

lol, maybe it will be better who knows. Stone can play good villains though the role seems a little corny. I just pray they don't sign Kutcher for Batman I think that was a made up rumor myself.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Rie, Sharon Stone is the villian, Halle Berry is Catwoman.

Wait a sec, Catwoman is a villian too! Will the wonders never cease. :)

[AmazonBabe]

Rie, Sharon Stone is the villian, Halle Berry is Catwoman.

I'm confused... why are you telling me this? :huh

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Originally posted by Lady Vader
And I didn't know Stone was the one opting for the part. First I heard it was gonna be some other chic (can't remember her name right now), but i guess she decided not to do it. :\

I thought you were confused? :huh

[AmazonBabe]

Um, no. I was just saying I didn' know Stone was opting for the part... and the other chic I had heard about wasn't Baley. It was someone else... either actress or model.

Silly nilly. :p

[Commander Zemil Vymes]

Whats with the sharon stone h8?

[Droo]

I don't have anything against her although as far as her acting is concerned I wouldn't say it's anything special. Best I've seen her in is the Quick and the Dead. Regardless, she could make a good villain and the premise for her characters' public alias and her criminal side is hardly any different from that of King Pin who ironically is from Daredevil, a film for which ReaperFett chooses to sing his praise. :)

I'm more worried with the nonsensical Superman storylines I've heard of the studios churning out.

[ReaperFett]

Originally posted by Dru
Regardless, she could make a good villain and the premise for her characters' public alias and her criminal side is hardly any different from that of King Pin who ironically is from Daredevil, a film for which ReaperFett chooses to sing his praise. :)
Cosmetics exec....."honest" fronts to a criminal empire. Oh yeah, identical :rolleyes

:)


And there you go then. Catwoman is actually a Girl Power version of Daredevil ;)

[Droo]

I didn't say identical, I said, as you quoted, "hardly any different". :mneh

Anyway, the concept is still there - a public persona in order to keep the police off your back while you conduct your shady illegal business. Have faith, Fett, have faith! Either that or just marvel at the Halle Berry goodness. :)

In response to your edit, I have no problem with that but Catwoman is a more interesting character than Daredevil as far as I am concerned. Daredevil is manically depressed whereas Catwoman is insane and feisty! :cat

[ReaperFett]

I edited my post :)


And why have faith? Everything I hear about Punisher is yummy goodness. Everything is based on what I know and love, with changes only being done if vital, like not being a Vietnam vet. I look forward to it immensley, and just hope Polar Bears make it in.

And then Catwoman. NOTHING to do with Catwoman. So all it sounds like to me is a cash-in.


And if I want to marvel (Ironic for a DC movie;)) at semi-hot women, I'll use the INTERNET :)


Originally posted by Dru
In response to your edit, I have no problem with that but Catwoman is a more interesting character than Daredevil as far as I am concerned. Daredevil is manically depressed whereas Catwoman is insane and feisty! :cat
Daredevil is Matt Murdock, and is the main character of Daredevil. Catwoman is Selina Kyle, and ISN'T the main character of Catwoman. So that argument doesn't work ;)

[Droo]

That's another thing I've been meaning to talk to you about - who the hell is Patience Price!?

[ReaperFett]

I believe Patience Price is..........Halle Berry's character. Nothing more. There was a black Catwoman in the TV series, but I think her name was Kitty or something.


EDIT - The actress' name was Eartha Kitt, but can't find aything about her being named anything but Catwoman. Indeed, IMDB doesn't even mention it :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

Selina Kyle isn't the main character of the Catwoman movie?? o_O

[Lilaena De'Ville]

So this is another character entirely, who happens to be called Catwoman as well....? Not to be confused with Catwoman of Batman fame?

[ReaperFett]

That is what I believe it to be, yes :)

[Daria Nytherciria]

:\ well that sounds stupid

[Commander Zemil Vymes]

<font size=7>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!</font>

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[Galak Neeus]

WB owns time, it's true! :cry

*Goes and reads "Selina's Big Score" again, with the real Catwoman*


And is she wearing a Mickey Mouse mask? Did they decide to do WORSE than the Schumacher Batman costume? What will the next Batman look like????

[Sanis Prent]

The next batman will be robin.

The next robin will be that bald gay guy that has a decorating show on the discovery channel.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well the batman movie is going in the right direction. This catwoman movie looks like that awful Supergirl flick back in the 80's

[ReaperFett]

And it's costing $100m! That's like Underworld and Once Upon a Time in Mexico, TWICE! They can't even afford a full costume!




And let's not remember what Halle once said:


I really want to be taken seriously as an actress

I :lol and yet :cry

[Lilaena De'Ville]

That is Halle under that horrid mask? The poor thing. :(

[Preacher Blake]

Sorry, Die Fledermaus called. He wants his mask back.

[Pierce Tondry]

When destiny honks the horn, ya gotta go.

[ReaperFett]

This is a PS job someone did. See how much better it looks? :cry

[Elena Van Derveld]

LOL

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LOL LOL
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Oh this will be funny :D

[Peter McCoy]

The PS one looks like Jeff Goldblum decided to try on Michelle Pffiefer's old costume! :p

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Her toes are sticking out in the other one. :uhoh Is that ...er...yeah I dunno why. :)

[Morgan Evanar]

Wow, this seems like a pit of SUCK.

Michelle Pipher (sp?)plz kthx.

[Nevlonniel]

Pfeiffer

>_< Man... they're totally gonna destroy Catwoman's image with this movie (assuming all these rumors are true, and not placed out there to totally throw ppl off).

Sheesh :rolleyes, I almost feel like it's my duty to bring her back to what she is if they take her down this suckfest path. |I

[ReaperFett]

Oh if only I had lots of money and wouldn't be sued for making "Felinewoman", who lives in Gutham and has encountered Butman :)

[AmazonBabe]

:lol!!! Sounds like a Mel Brooks perody or something!

[ReaperFett]

There some better (And by better, I mean worse:)) pictures online today, but WB ordered SHH to remove them. Wonder if they'll be SHAMED out of this? :)

Price of making Catwoman: $100m.
The expressions on peoples faces when they saw the images: Priceless.



:)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

:lol

I will not be seeing this movie, unless maybe someone rents it and tricks me into watching. ^_^;

[ReaperFett]

It's like a car wreck though. You feel yourself URGED to look :)



The Warner Bros. film, which also stars Sharon Stone, Benjamin Bratt and Lambert Wilson, crawls into theaters on July 30, 2004. Halle plays Patience Price, a mild mannered graphic artist, who is murdered in order to keep her silent about an accidental discovery she made. An ancient myth is played out, when an Egyptian Mao cat, indebted to Patience for saving her it's own life, breathes life back into the young woman. Patience is reborn with an independent attitude, carefree behavior and the heightened senses of a cat. Now she must investigate the circumstances behind her murder and learn to accept both parts of herself.
See? THERE is the movie! Maocat the saviour!

"Ms Berry, are you here?"

*sees her dead on the ground*

"My word, are you okay?"

*checks her pulse*

"She's not breathing! Now is the time for ACTION!"

*begins CPR*


:)

[Droo]

(Wants to give Halle Berry CPR too.)

[ReaperFett]

You're not a cat who has given her a life debt (What is it, Chewbacca?) :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Now THAT would be a good movie. :D If it was Chewbacca not a maocat.

[ADarksideJedi]

That is horrible that they are making a new movie based on a stupid comic! "Excuse me why I barf" >_<
Anyway the Huk was bad enough! Man I hope it bombs!
See u around Jedis! JM :smokin |I

[Sanis Prent]

Uh...the original Batman was made after a comic though. Same with the second one. Third and fourth took nods from the animated series, and didn't hold the theme of the original Batman comic.

And the Hulk was a good superhero flick.

[imported_Grev Drasen]

The Hulk sci-fi series > The Hulk movie.

[ReaperFett]

Stupid comic? Do you actually read them?

[Ardath Bey]

Ashley Judd turned down the title role in Catwoman to pursue the Broadway revival of Tennessee Williams' Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. She will be portraying the sultry Maggie opposite Jason Patric's Brick.

Warner Bros really screwed-up by rewriting the DC character.

Selena Kyle=Ashley Judd, works!

[Lilaena De'Ville]

But this Catwoman != Selena Kyle, so it's all for the best anyway that Ashley isn't in it.

[Ardath Bey]

Which arrives to our next fact... this is going to be a movie to avoid at all costs. It is destined to bomb and I suggest WB execs go seek counseling. Why would they do something like this? Spinoff movies of this vein have always bombed at the boxoffice.

Red Sonja, Supergirl, etc.

[Master Yoghurt]

You're probably right, Ardath Bey. I allmost certainly wait for video or TV on this. Besides, I am not much into these type of movies. How many ways can you do the same movie over and over again. Superhero saves the world v9546 ad nauesum, mediocre acting and probably not much of a real story to tell *yawn*

[Ardath Bey]

Yog, I may choose to never view it. On the basis that I don't think Catwoman is going to serve us any new angles on this tired popular theme. Typical going through the motions type of superhero movie in a Daredevil mold ... only worse. The last spinoff that generated some interest from me in recent memory was Tommy Lee Jones' US Marshall's Samuel Girard character, originally from The Fugitive. What a big letdown that was, not that the original movie was anything great either. Cheers!

[ReaperFett]

Originally posted by Ardath Bey
Catwoman is going to serve us any new angles on this tired popular theme. Typical going through the motions type of superhero movie in a Daredevil mold ... only worse.
Superhero movies aren't all the same. Heck, my mum watched my Daredevil DVD and was comparing it to other superhero movies, and she pays no attention to what she's watching generally.


So tell me, how many movies do you class in this "tired popular theme"? If we're talking comic movies in the last five years, we have:

Blade/Blade 2
X-Men/X-Men 2
Spiderman/Spiderman 2
Daredevil
Hulk
Punisher
Man-Thing
Fantastic Four
Ghost Rider


I don't see anything there just going through similar motions. What in Hulk was the same as in Daredevil? Or Blade and Spiderman?

[Ardath Bey]

Or maybe it is just the superhero genre in whole. But Daredevil was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. No great backstories on anything whatsoever and many sequence of events were too coincidental nature lacking no explanation either. And the way they treated Kingpin was terrible, he was just hung out there as a peripheral presence. Kingpin is a major baddie in the Spidey, DD, and Punisher corner of the 'verse. I used to read my Marvels BTW. ::wink:: What predictably lame climax too.

Anyways, I truly believe Catwoman is going to represent the same mold.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Originally posted by Ardath Bey
Or maybe it is just the superhero genre in whole. But Daredevil was one of the worst movies I have ever seen. No great backstories on anything whatsoever and many sequence of events were too coincidental nature lacking no explanation either. And the way they treated Kingpin was terrible, he was just hung out there as a peripheral presence. Kingpin is a major baddie in the Spidey, DD, and Punisher corner of the 'verse. I used to read my Marvels BTW. ::wink:: What predictably lame climax too.


What the...... ?

That's not the Daredevil I saw.

[Sejah Haversh]

Daredevil was quite accurate to the comics, and I thought the movie was hadled well. Though it did lack the element of pure fun I was looking for. Not my favorite superhero movie, but quite well done.

I can't wait until DC makes the Black Aquaman movie.

(For those of you who don't know, Black Aquaman is a comic strip that appears in The Stranger, a Seattle sub-culture newspaper that is free. It's horribly drawn, but the blaxploitation all over the place makes it hilarious.)

[Ardath Bey]

Well, like for instance, when DD and Elektra's civilian alter-egos met. Even fought. Why didn't that have a story behind it explaining why that happened. Needed a better backstory on Elektra and Bullseye. What their motives are and what ambitions fuel them. And what consequence is Daredevil to either one of them.

And the Kingpin, I think this character deserved a larger role in the movie instead of just being popped in the last scene. Too much was left unexplained in Daredevil.

Superhero movies always contain the same series of redundant plot twists. That is what is exhausting about them.

[Ardath Bey]

Wait, better yet, let me pose a question back. How about you guys give me a rundown on the virtues of why Daredevil should be considered great/good film?

Plot, writing, direction, storyline, characters, acting, characterizations, cinematography, etc, etc.

[ReaperFett]

What predictably lame climax too.
Of course it's predicatably, the majority of it is 20 years old. That's like saying LOTR was predictable ;)



Well, like for instance, when DD and Elektra's civilian alter-egos met. Even fought. Why didn't that have a story behind it explaining why that happened.
Why they met? Well, people co in places to drink coffee :)


Needed a better backstory on Elektra and Bullseye. What their motives are and what ambitions fuel them.
Bullseye kills because he's a psycho. This is in evidence as he kills people he simply doesn't like.

Elektra's story is a bit more mysterious. Was trained from a child by her father. Is it as Matt says "Like a warrior", which she rushes over, or maybe he is doing it for her protection? When her father is killed, she sees Daredevil's billy club lodged in him. She is motivated to kill him, which is why she hunts him down. When she realises it couldn't be Daredevil and Bullseye appears laughing and mocking, she still has that attitude with her.




Originally posted by Ardath Bey
Wait, better yet, let me pose a question back. How about you guys give me a rundown on the virtues of why Daredevil should be considered great/good film?

http://sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=27338#post479384 - Link to my review when I saw it the first time.