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Sanis Prent
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:23:25 PM
Dear members of the SWRoleplay.com community,

As a representative of the administration team as well as being a representative
of the leaders of the roleplay groups on the board, I come to you with news of a
matter of grave concern which has prompted us to take action.

We no longer feel that SWR is a secure roleplaying environment and that our
accounts may have been accessed without our knowledge. We have screen captures
of one such incident where the owner of SWR accessed another admin's account.

We also recently learned that SWR is part of a company, Beth Enterprises LLC,
which Daegal owns 33% of. It is not a public domain message board as was
previously understood. SWRoleplay.com has a board of directors, consisting of
Daegal and an unnamed person, who are responsible for all decisions on the
message board. We do not wish to have our characters and writings as part of
anyone's personal company as our characters and writings belong to us, the
creators.

There are other issues, regarding disclosure of the admin log to which only
SWRoleplay.com has access, which concerns the admin team and leaders of the
roleplay groups, as well as a blatant disregard by Daegal of the staff's
opinions in matters of importance. He has recently proposed asking the public
for donations for the upkeep of the board, which costs almost 7 times as much as
others, and has refused a move to a better one where he would not be
administrator any longer - he chose to terminate Dara's senior-administrator
status without consulting anyone else, on the grounds that she did not like what
he was doing. But we have all not liked what he was doing, for many reasons
besides those mentioned here. Therefore we have decided that we no longer will
be participating in the roleplay at SWRoleplay.com. We have moved our characters
and threads to a new location at www.starwarsrpg.net/forums and everyone is
welcome to register there and join us.

You are free to decide where to Roleplay; however, we must notify you that the
groups as they were do no longer exist on SWRoleplay.com. From the moment this
email was sent, we moved everything contained in each group's boards into a
separate forum for each, simply called "The Sith", "The Dark Jedi", "The Jedi",
etc. For those chosing to stay, they can go on roleplaying, but can no longer
consider themselves a member of The Sith Empire, The Student of the Light, The
Royal House of Rannon, etc. Members deciding to move to the new board will find
everything as it was, yet as we cannot have permission from Daegal to have all
threads moved automatically, we are all responsible for copy/pasting our own
threads to where they used to be. For this reason, we have made a back-up forum
with already copied threads, where we will be able to get our RPs from in the
event that anything should happen to the originals on SWRoleplay.com. Daegal has
stated that in the event of a move he would move threads only if asked by the
group leaders or individual people, but we do not wish to have to rely on his
word.

This is an unfortunate turn of events and we apologize for any inconvenience
this may cause, but our main concern is to provide a secure roleplaying
environment free of questionable occurences and other undisclosed information.

Sincerely,
Mara
SWRoleplay.com Administrator

:lol!!!!

TheHolo.Net
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:29:37 PM
:lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seconded!

How long will it take before his second effort explodes I wonder?

Sanis Prent
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:38:41 PM
I don't know...but this is hella funny. The same jackasses who defended him here get burned by him. What a bunch of tards.

Lilaena De'Ville
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:39:50 PM
I think they're moving AWAY from Daegal. So he wouldn't be a part of it, correct?

Ugh...such drama. I'm glad they finally found out what a tard he is though. It would be nice if they'd apologize to people they've been mad at when the truth was pointed out previously. :x

Sanis Prent
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:45:07 PM
I'll keep my comedy, and they can keep their pride. I like it better this way. :)

TheHolo.Net
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:52:24 PM
They won't hear any "I told you so's" from me, but I am laughing my <smallfont color={hovercolor}>-Censored-</smallfont> off at this.

ReaperFett
Feb 5th, 2003, 08:30:40 PM
Oh. That is my opinion on this. Oh.

TheHolo.Net
Feb 5th, 2003, 08:34:23 PM
It is reassuring in the fact that it confirms our decision to ban Daegal from our forums was correct and has been further justified by his continued proven poor moral ethic.

ReaperFett
Feb 5th, 2003, 08:37:15 PM
Yes, I'll agree there. But I dont find laughing at other peoples RPing efforts being possibly destroyed as being funny.

TheHolo.Net
Feb 5th, 2003, 08:43:33 PM
It is funny to me, because even before they completed the move I warned them of the activities I saw Daegal guilty of at the vB hacking forums and what implications it could have at their new board, which that letter from Mara states they have proof of happening exactly.

They didn't listen and brought it on themselves. It isn't my fault considering I warned them, so now its funny that it turned out to be true. Slightly sadistic yes, but still funny.

I do feel bad for those innocent people that weren't a part of the drama and are being flopped around like this now, but those who weren't innocent and were a part of all the drama and accusations. :lol!!!

ReaperFett
Feb 5th, 2003, 08:49:03 PM
Seems ironic the thread directly under this has us laughing about how Dara just cant break with this place. We're just as bad :)

TheHolo.Net
Feb 5th, 2003, 08:50:27 PM
Just as bad as what?

ReaperFett
Feb 6th, 2003, 02:48:19 AM
The fact people refuse to just let it go? The fact that TSE leaves, and people keep watching them? It's as bad as Dara, and we mock her :)

Taylor Millard
Feb 6th, 2003, 03:09:56 AM
Well me personally I registered at SWR 'cause I had an RP to do there (never happened) so when I got the email it was 'cause I had a registered account there.

I haven't been there in a long time, myself.

Taylor Millard
Feb 6th, 2003, 06:25:58 AM
Got this this morning.


For anyone who received the e-mail talking about the many horrible
things I've done, I'd like you to note a few key issues.

First, there was no proof of any allegation. The reason for this is
pure and simple..they don't have any. The one shred of evidence that they
have is doctored courtesy of Dara's copy of Photoshop. It's hard to
have evidence that doesn't exist.

Secondly, the allegations have came just as I removed Dara from Admin.
If the other Admins were so concerned about your security, don't you
think they would have acted before now? Or is this just a coincidence?
LOL. They don't like that I have outsted her from her tyrranical rule,
and so they're trying to ruin this place.

Thirdly, they have maliciously deleted each and every group's style set
on this vBulletin. Styles that (not counting RHR) were not designed by
any of the admins that have defected. These styles were designed by
Sumor and given to this board when he left. If they choose to no longer be
a part of this board, they have no claim to the styles and no right to
delete them.

Finally, let's look to why I removed Dara's Senior Admin status.
Basically, the group of defecting admins were planning to split. I knew this
and was going to pre-empt it. I wanted to keep the board together
rather than having it split into two factions. Sounds like I'm just about
all the horrid person that they made me out to be, eh?

Basically, when you think about this whole issue, you can see that
their allegations were baseless and unfounded, the allegations only came
after I removed her Excellency (Dara) from Admin, that the remaining
admins maliciously caused harm to the board before their departure, and
that the removal of her Excellency's admin was due to the fact that she
was trying to split up the board.

I would finally like to ask that you have the courage to stay and
rebuild this place, despite their attempts to tear it down. I would also
like to ask you to decide whether or not YOU think I'm a horrible admin,
and base your decision of where to roleplay on whether you think I was
right or wrong.

Thanks for reading,

Daegal.

How interesting...not

Sanis Prent
Feb 6th, 2003, 09:23:00 AM
Actually Fett, I generally forget they exist, until they point something out. I'm at their forums practically never...except maybe to browse once every other month (not 6 times a day like Dara). So I'd say that we've gotten on with our own thing. However, when comedy like this is emailed to me, I can't help but enjoy.

ReaperFett
Feb 6th, 2003, 01:06:18 PM
They don't like that I have outsted her from her tyrranical rule
I never saw Dara as a Tyrant :)



And Taylor...

How interesting...not
It obviously is, as you wouldnt show us otherwise ;)

TheHolo.Net
Feb 6th, 2003, 01:10:06 PM
Dara has a long track record for gaining power in RP groups and then not too long after having them crumble around her. Eve and Hera can tell you tales of Dara back in Tal City and what happened to the Legion, a group that Dara came into power in. First it was her Legion, then this makes the third major shake up of TSE. Its a neverending cycle it seems.

Navaria Tarkin
Feb 6th, 2003, 02:36:56 PM
I can atest to some of it too >_<

Anyway, really sad about this is Daegel and Dara were suppose to be IRL friends from what I remember Dara telling me.

Internet makes some so petty

Nupraptor
Feb 8th, 2003, 03:45:46 AM
Heh. I just posted in a thread there a month or two ago saying "Yeah, it's funny that you guys left us because you claimed people at SWFans were mixing OOC & IC, yet that still goes on here (SWR) and we hardly have any of it".

They didn't take to kindly to it. I'm severely tempted to post an 'I told you so'.