Utopia

[Darth Viscera]

http://games.swirve.com/utopia/

Play it, it's a free massive multiplayer (80,000 people) game like Earth 2025 or Kings of Chaos. You can be dwarves, orcs, halflings, men, elves, etc. You're given 200 acres and 1,500 peasants within a kingdom of 24 other provinces and you have to build up, defend and expand your province. Reaperfeet and I are playing it. The new round starts Jan 15th and lasts well into March, but you can join anytime, the fighting just doesn't start until Jan 15th.

If you want to see tools and simulations about Utopia, go here:

http://www.utopiatemple.com

[ReaperFett]

And in the forums, people are laughing at the fact Im playing a Human Freak (Freak being a personality). Mainly because they know Im doomed :)

[Darth Viscera]

and he is doomed. His peasants are already digging graves.

[ReaperFett]

they're as mad as me ;)

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

I shall look into it, I wish to command an army of loyal minions who will die at my whim!

Edit: Sir Zakatiel the Undead Warrior of the Land Dirt Down

[ReaperFett]

What is your location. SOmething like 3:16. What is yours?

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

I'm at College right now. Only Signed up, I will find out when I get home and can access my E-Mail and can actually spend time on the PC.

[ReaperFett]

okay :)

[Darth Viscera]

Oh yeah, here's my name and province:
Mr. Pimpernel Took the Rogue of Great Smials (23:9)

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

Damn, I just noticed I sent it to my Old E-mail account which as been Deactivated for some time... Going to try again.

[Hector Diens]

Fools. I have been playing for years. I ended last age about 600k Elf Sage Attacker.

If you need advice ask me... I know it all.

<-- Lebron

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

Then why didn't you tell us Years Ago???

And you call us Fools...

Well anyway, it is now Activated

Mr. Jagd Dkato the Undead Warrior of the land Saiatah (23,23)

[Diego Van Derveld]

Sir Maxim Virtus the Human War Hero of the land Thrycia.

(22:28)

[Darth Viscera]

Give me a good halfling thief strat!

this is what i've concocted so far:

Buildings Report of Great Smials (23:9)
[http://www.UtopiaTemple.com Angel v1.39 Beta]

1. Mines: 50 (25%)
2. Armouries: 50 (25%)
3. Thieves' Dens: 40 (20%)
4. Banks: 40 (20%)
5. Guilds: 10 (5%)
6. Towers: 10 (5%)

Total Land: 200 Acres (100% built)

** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. Produce 2,500gc per day (3,750gc with MM)
2. -43.8% army training costs, +30% elites training
3. -80% thieves losses, +20% thievery effectiveness
4. +40% to income, protect 60% of gold from thievery
5. Training about 0.2 wizards per hour
6. Produce 100 runes per day

[Kelt Simoson]

The Wise Mr. Archmagister Gothren Of The House Of Telvanni

5:4 (just started)

[Vega Van-Derveld]

Zozma Vagner the Sorcerer of Fascinataru. (38:15) :D

[Darth Viscera]

when i find ripe targets, I will post them here.

Will you guys do likewise? as a thief, i'm need to need lots of gold to subsist.

[ReaperFett]

Sure thing. To warn you though, Im a waste to try and steal from, I have a fair few watchtowers :)

[Darth Viscera]

watchtowers will not stop a dedicated army of thieves :)

[ReaperFett]

But they will VASTLY decrease your effectiveness. There was a long thread in the forums about how overly effective they are. You'd be best picking off the fools :)

[Sanis Prent]

As I am an honorable war hero and such...I generally frown upon such skullduggery. I'll keep on the lookout for all of you other rabble though.

[Sanis Prent]

Also, my province name is now Dragon of Thrycia. Don't ask me why...the kingdom's going for a theme or such :)

[ReaperFett]

Ours will probably have a Starcraft theme, as they seem to ALL be Starcraft players :)

[Hector Diens]

:mad Don't post targets here. Its wrong. Its like an alliance... which is wrong. If I was on WoL I'd rape you if you guys posted SoMs and CBs here.


Visc- Armories are fairly useless as you won't be attacking much and you can steal extra gold. You'll also need about 5-10% farms depending on happyness level and science. My advice for a good start on thief:

10% farms
30% Mines
10% Thieves Dens
35% Banks
15% Libraries

Quick build the banks and mines. Then pump sciences until about a day before protection ends, then switch to this:

10% farms
10% Mines
20% Thieves Dens
15% Banks
5% Forts
20% Guilds
10% Towers
10% Libraries

Do not build elites as they are useless to a T/M. Go full def specs with a draft rate at about 65% Eventually, cast protection on yourself all the time. It will be very good against detering attacks.

[Hector Diens]

Last Age stats:

Count Morpheous, it is my job to keep track of our history and some of our greatest moments.
Below are some of the measures I have been tracking over time.

Highest Networth 609,000 gc
Highest Land Area 3689 acres
Highest Honor 4313 points
Total Land Explored 654
Total Attacks Made 75
Total Wins 39 (52.3%)
Wins Against Larger Opponents 32 (82.0%)
Average Relative Opponent Networth 132%
Total Land Gained in Combat 2054 acres
Attacks Suffered 20
Times Defeated 3 (15.0%)
Total Land Lost in Combat 515 acres
Thievery Operations Attempted 4
Successful Thievery Operations 0 (0.0%)
Spells Attempted 3330
Successful Spells 2370 (71.2%)

[ReaperFett]

Thievery Operations Attempted 4
Successful Thievery Operations 0 (0.0%)
Not your bag this stealth lark ;)

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

I just building stuff and no matter if I win or loose. It just a low tech game.

[Hector Diens]

I had 10 thieves the whole age... :(

[Darth Viscera]

What would you suggest for a halfling thief's TPA? I've been gaming out several strats all day on prophet, trying to figure out which is best, and it occurs to me on angel that with 47.8 modded DPA and 12.7 modded TPA, an orc my size could easily send 3,000 ogres against my 7,114 half-giants and win.

Anyways, i played the game with thrawnie nearly 2 years ago as a faery thief/mage for an age, and wound up getting to Lord by the last day of the age through a hopeless gamble of an attack on a Baroness.

12.5 modded TPA - less or more for a halfling thief? Back when I was faery T/M I had half elites, half thieves.

Turns out that Thrawnie still plays it, btw. I've seen a few of his posts on the utopia forum.

[Hector Diens]

He's on and off. I haven't been theif in ages, and then I had about a 2 TPA raw, max sci and max building bonuses.

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

I guess our theme is the Begaining of the End, we all must have start or end in our names. My New land is called End of Prosperity... what a happy thought.

[Hector Diens]

Keeper of Ears is my name.

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

So, the Mr. Niklos Thorson the Crazy of Oddballica has sent a message to Mr. Varin Dkato the Warrior of the End of Prosperity warning about human freaks on the march... Damn, I wonder who this could be???

**Shifty eyes**

[Darth Viscera]

It's Reaperfeet!

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

The Fett Man is on the March!!! Who da thought!

Without you DV, I would of continued thinking it was stranger with a fetish for the undead decided to send me a warning without knowing who I was.

But now that I know it is reaper, I am even more horrified!

Well anyway, is it possible to send troops to a land you have not explored yet?

Cause you know, I don't know that his numerical isle even exists yet. *wink* *wink* Damn Sand...

[Hector Diens]

Don't think so. Wait a week.

[ReaperFett]

Dont worry Dyzm, I wouldnt attack you. Im following orders at first :)

[Hector Diens]

Stupid n00b.

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

Hector, why do you think I wrote a "YET"
I read all the rules.
Following Orders eh? I think our Queen is weak, she suggested building defenses first. But I am the Undead! I will CRUSH ALL WITH MY ARMY OF GHOULS AND SKELLIES AND ICE DRAGONS!!! Wait... That WarCraft...

[Master Yoghurt]

This is my first time playing. I am playing the human sage Valandil, ruling the province of Nisimaldar. My province is at 13,169gc networth for the moment.

How do I calculate my dpa, opa and tpa?

[Lion El' Jonson]

Yes, Dyzm, that is Warcraft...we can always dream, though...:lol

BTW, when are you gonna get rid of your avatar? I'm tired of getting PMs saying I'm toting around Dyzm's avatar, give it back to him, blah blah blah....

I'm not gonna play...I've always got SW: Galaxies to look forward to...:-D

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

Have yet to find a replacement :D

[ReaperFett]

Your army has taken 8 new acres! 1 buildings survived and can be refitted to fit our needs. Taking full control of your new land will take 16 days. Your new land will be available on May 2nd, YR0. 95 peasants also settled on your new lands.

We lost 18 Soldiers, 4 Swordsmen, and 32 War Horses in this battle. 2 of our Swordsmen have been trained into Knights. Our forces will be again available on May 2nd, YR0.
We killed about 0 enemy troops. We also imprisoned 5 additional troops in our Dungeons.

[Lion El' Jonson]

So, Fett...you kinda took 10:1 losses...great job...^_^;

[ReaperFett]

I gained land, I took from another. I gained prisoners. I gained 2 Knights.

2 Knights to train = 6600 or so
4 Swordsmen to train = 1200 or so
18 Soldiers are standard drafted in freebies
32 Horses are free, just have to be produced
5 Prisoners are free, and fight better than Soldiers.

I lost nothing I wont gain back in a Utopian day. Heck, Im more or less there NOW!

I made a GAIN. Not a substantial gain, but wasnt a substantial force.

[Lion El' Jonson]

Oh well...the Fett is on the march!

[Darth Viscera]

And I have peaked! 120 nw/acre, maximum def specs, 4tpa, soon to be 55dpa, no more mere soldiers, and I'm looking to donate 250,000gc to my kingdom-mates.

My peasants will just have to deal with my defensive nature. Bastards have gone from excited to happy.

[Keerrourri Feessaarro]

I attacked and gained 58 acres, only to be countered and lose 40. Not bad, I guess :lol

[Master Yoghurt]

I am doing pretty well myself

50,000gc Net Worth, 105gc per acre, 28DPA, 19OPA and I was recently promoted to Knight. I am rapidly growing..

54,385 Bushels
9622 Runes

Income: 50,910gc
Expenses: 2840gc
Draft Costs: 4950gc
Net Change: +43,120gc

[Darth Viscera]

I was very pissed off at an 851 acre dwarf for having captured 105 acres of land from a kingdom-mate of mine, so I obliterated her, and her province should be collapsing from starvation any day now. I took her food reserves from 50,000 down to 2,000 through thievery, performed vermin and drought and greed on her, got her peasants to riot for 5 days, got a CB, SoM, Survey, SoS of her and posted it in the kingdom's forum for my friend to retal on her.

Just goes to show that you shouldn't piss off a protected thief :)

[ReaperFett]

Youre an evil piece of work ;)

[Darth Viscera]

Oh, and by the way, she had 10% watchtowers.

:evil

[ReaperFett]

lol :)

[Darth Viscera]

watchtowers will not stop a dedicated army of thieves :)

[Sanis Prent]

I thought that once you had a certain number of watchtowers, there was no point in getting more. Am I mistaken?

[ReaperFett]

89 is the last time theyre useful. 60% identify and catch.

[Dark Lord Dyzm]

I destroyed all my Farms, Useless to an army of Undead

[ReaperFett]

Famrs bring farmers. Farmers bring brainssssssssssss ;)

[Keerrourri Feessaarro]

Damn...time to build barracks and watchtowers then. I've got 7% barracks, and 2% watchtowers.

[Darth Viscera]

Watchtowers-20% max

[Keerrourri Feessaarro]

I thought the 20 was for the NUMBER of them, not percentage?

Dammit the guide is too vague.

[Hector Diens]

I just realized I have no watchtowers... :( Oh well...16 hour clear sight helps...:D

[Darth Viscera]

Age ends 23rd, here's where I am after an age:
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The Province of Great Smials (23:9)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.41 Beta]

Utopian Date: May 8th, YR8
RL Date: March 16th, 2003 (13:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Sir Pimpernel Took the Rogue
Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling
Land: 1,324 Acres
Money: 539,035gc (37,917gc raw daily income)
Food: 542,560 bushels
Runes: 3,853 runes
Population: 37,438 citizens (28.28 per Acre)
Peasants: 12,639 (100% Employed)
Happy: b:100%, t:3.0gc, p:101.5%, m:100%
Trade Balance: 578,948gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 204,758 (154.65 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 48,218gc

Soldiers: 0 (59.5% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 11,674 (46,696 defense points)
Half-Giants: 5,659 (22,636 offense / 28,295 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Attack points: 22,636 (17.10 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 0 (0.00 per Acre)
Total Defense points: 74,991 (56.64 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 74,991 (56.64 per Acre)

Thieves: 4,925 (3.72 per Acre / 12% Stealth)
Wizards: 2,541 (1.92 per Acre / 13% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 8,036 (6.07 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 6,027 (4.55 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 1,909 (1.44 per Acre)

Buildings: 681gc to build, 681gc to raze
Away bonus: 63,195gc (12h) / 189,585gc (20h)

_________________________________________

Buildings Report of Great Smials (23:9)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.41 Beta]

1. Mines: 128 (9.7%) + 4 in progress (+0.3%)
2. Farms: 128 (9.7%) + 4 in progress (+0.3%)
3. Thieves' Dens: 256 (19.3%) + 9 in progress (+0.7%)
4. Banks: 128 (9.7%) + 4 in progress (+0.3%)
5. Hospitals: 128 (9.7%) + 4 in progress (+0.3%)
6. Guilds: 192 (14.5%) + 7 in progress (+0.5%)
7. Towers: 256 (19.3%) + 9 in progress (+0.7%)
8. Libraries: 64 (4.8%) + 2 in progress (+0.2%)

Total Land: 1,324 Acres (96.7% built)
In Progress: 43 Acres (3.2%)

** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. Produce 6,400gc per day (9,600gc with MM)
2. Produce 8,960 bushels per day (11,200 with FL)
3. -80% thieves losses, +19.3% thievery effectiveness
4. +19.3% to income, protect 48.3% of gold from thievery
5. -38.7% combat losses, +96.7% birth rate, 29% cure plague
6. Training about 3.8 wizards per hour
7. Produce 2,560 runes per day
8. 96 science points per day, protect 14.5% science

** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **
1. Produce 6,600gc per day (9,900gc with MM)
2. Produce 9,240 bushels per day (11,550 with FL)
3. -80% thieves losses, +20% thievery effectiveness
4. +19.9% to income, protect 49.8% of gold from thievery
5. -39.9% combat losses, +99.7% birth rate, 29.9% cure plague
6. Training about 4 wizards per hour
7. Produce 2,650 runes per day
8. 99 science points per day, protect 15% science
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Science Intelligence on Great Smials (23:9)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.41 Beta]

** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) **
+26.2% Income (20,037 points)
-40.3% Building Time (20,037 points)
+13.1% Population Limits (20,037 points)
+52.4% Food Production (20,037 points)
+0.1% Offensive Military Strength (181 points)
+48.7% Thievery Effectiveness (20,037 points)
+48.7% Magic Effectiveness (20,037 points)

______________________________________


Highest Networth 279,000 gc
Highest Land Area 1849 acres
Highest Honor 1183 points
Total Land Explored 1717
Total Attacks Made 0
Total Wins 0 (0.0%)
Wins Against Larger Opponents 0 (0.0%)
Average Relative Opponent Networth 0%
Total Land Gained in Combat 0 acres
Attacks Suffered 11
Times Defeated 6 (54.5%)
Total Land Lost in Combat 991 acres
Thievery Operations Attempted 754
Successful Thievery Operations 598 (79.3%)
Spells Attempted 797
Successful Spells 496 (62.2%)


Up until a week ago, I was living fat on the hog at 1,850 acres with 62 dpa modded, 4tpa raw and 1.5wpa raw. Then, the day of hell began. In a period of 26 hours, I was attacked 6 times by 5 different provinces from 4 different kingdoms hostile to our own. In a period of 26 hours, I went from being a happy 1,850 acre province with 1,183 honor points to being a 1,190 acre province with 590 honor points, a military that made up 80% of my population (62% is nominal in my prov), and a merely content population. I had to release 9,000 archers, but kept my 2,700 wizards, which gave me an instant 2+ raw wpa, dropped my draft to 60%, but my pezzies are still pissed because i have 67% of my pop as military, 60% combat and thieves and 7% wizards.

Wooh. Next age (26th of March) I'm going to be expanding like a rocket now that I know how to do it while protected with def specs, and no stopping to rest. This'll be my new strat, unless Mehul makes a change which affects the fundamentals:

10% Farms
20% Thieves Dens
10% Banks
10% Hospitals
20% Guilds
20% Towers
10% Libraries

I'm going to paradising nearly nonstop, unless there's a war or hard hostile. I don't think I'll be able to survive as a 3k acre halfer rogue with only 62dpa modded, though, so can anyone give me advice on how to get practically get a higher dpa? I ordinarily maintain at least 1 wpa raw and 4 tpa raw.

[Admiral Lebron]

Not bad. I stopped playing about three weeks in... when my ghetto KD decided to get rid of me.

[Zakatiel Rhinehart]

I stopped playing roughly 2 week in. Just didn't hold any interest. That, and My land was slowly being nibbled to pieces by a enemy kingdom.

[Darth Viscera]

Here's my new building strat:

10% Farms
10% Thieves Dens
10% Forts
10% Banks
10% Hospitals
20% Guilds
20% Towers
10% Libraries

Halfling Rogue

I'm expanding nonstop (explore, occasional paradise maybe, love & peace, build buildings at double speed) for the first 2 days of protection, 3rd day I will use for consolidation, training. I already have 200 acres of buildings built up (buildings have completed construction) out of 270 acres, the rest are coming in except for about 12 acres which I don't have the money to build on yet.

With this strat, I'll be able to get about 75dpa modded under protection and still maintain 4tpa raw and 1wpa raw.

[ReaperFett]

WHich of them are built double time?

[Darth Viscera]

The Province of Hobbits from Hell (13:50)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.42 Beta]

Utopian Date: January 12th, YR0
RL Date: March 26th, 2003 (17:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Mr. Frodo Baggins the Rogue
Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling
Land: 270 Acres (at least 12 unbuilt acres)
Money: 714gc (6,312gc raw daily income)
Food: 11,556 bushels
Runes: 400 runes
Population: 2,140 citizens (7.93 per Acre)
Peasants: 2,036 (100% Employed)
Excited: b:100%, t:3.1gc, p:103%, m:104%
Trade Balance: 0gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 11,163 (41.34 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 0gc

Soldiers: 93 (4.3% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 0
Half-Giants: 0
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Modified Offense: 193 (0.72 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 193 (0.72 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 193 (0.72 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 193 (0.72 per Acre)

[500 Acres land assumed for thieves calculation]
Thieves: 0 (0.00 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 11 (0.04 per Acre / 100% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Maximum Possible Thieves: 0 (0.00 per Acre)
Maximum Possible Wizards: 0 (0.00 per Acre)

Buildings: 418gc to build, 418gc to raze
Away bonus: 10,180gc (12h) / 30,540gc (20h)


Buildings Report of Hobbits from Hell (13:50)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.42 Beta]

1. Farms: 20 (7.4%) + 5 in progress (+1.9%)
2. Thieves' Dens: 20 (7.4%) + 5 in progress (+1.9%)
3. Forts: 20 (7.4%) + 5 in progress (+1.9%)
4. Banks: 20 (7.4%) + 5 in progress (+1.9%)
5. Hospitals: 20 (7.4%) + 5 in progress (+1.9%)
6. Guilds: 40 (14.8%) + 14 in progress (+5.2%)
7. Towers: 40 (14.8%) + 11 in progress (+4.1%)
8. Libraries: 20 (7.4%) + 4 in progress (+1.5%)

Total Land: 270 Acres (74.1% built)
In Progress: 54 Acres (20%)
New Land: 116 Acres coming in

** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. Produce 1,400 bushels per day (1,750 with FL)
2. -37% thieves losses, +7.4% thievery effectiveness
3. +7.4% defense bonus, -11.1% losses when attacked
4. +14.8% to income, protect 37% of gold from thievery
5. -29.6% combat losses, +74.1% birth rate, 22.2% cure plague
6. Training about 0.8 wizards per hour
7. Produce 400 runes per day
8. 30 science points per day, protect 22.2% science

** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **
1. Produce 1,750 bushels per day (2,188 with FL)
2. -32.4% thieves losses, +6.5% thievery effectiveness
3. +6.5% defense bonus, -9.7% losses when attacked
4. +13% to income, protect 32.4% of gold from thievery
5. -25.9% combat losses, +64.8% birth rate, 19.4% cure plague
6. Training about 1.1 wizards per hour
7. Produce 510 runes per day
8. 36 science points per day, protect 18.7% science

[Darth Viscera]

The Province of Hobbits from Hell (13:50)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.43 Beta 2]

Utopian Date: April 19th, YR4
RL Date: April 27th, 2003 (0:00 GMT)

Ruler Name: Lord Frodo Baggins the Rogue
Personality & Race: The Rogue, Halfling
Land: 1,126 Acres
Money: 1,106,469gc (28,434gc raw daily income)
Food: 227,244 bushels
Runes: 70,347 runes
Population: 30,938 citizens (27.48 per Acre)
Peasants: 9,478 (100% Employed)
Happy: b:100%, t:3.0gc, p:101.5%, m:100%
Trade Balance: 862,237gc (0% tax rate)
Networth: 176,934 (157.13 per Acre)
Thieves+Wizards+Science Networth: 37,665gc

Soldiers: 0 (65.2% estimated draft rate)
Spearmen: 0
Archers: 15,756 (63,024 defense points)
Half-Giants: 433 (1,732 offense / 2,165 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0

Total Modified Offense: 1,732 (1.54 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 0 (0.00 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 65,189 (57.89 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 65,189 (57.89 per Acre)

Thieves: 3,977 (3.53 per Acre / 9% Stealth)
Wizards: 1,294 (1.15 per Acre / 8% Mana)

Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 5,707 (5.07 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 4,280 (3.80 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 1,355 (1.20 per Acre)

Buildings: 632gc to build, 632gc to raze
Away bonus: 47,390gc (12h) / 142,170gc (20h)
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Buildings Report of Hobbits from Hell (13:50)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.43 Beta 2]

1. Farms: 90 (8%)
2. Thieves' Dens: 111 (9.9%) + 2 in progress (+0.2%)
3. Forts: 110 (9.8%) + 3 in progress (+0.3%)
4. Guilds: 222 (19.7%) + 3 in progress (+0.3%)
5. Towers: 222 (19.7%) + 3 in progress (+0.3%)
6. Watchtowers: 133 (11.8%) + 2 in progress (+0.2%)
7. Schools: 221 (19.6%) + 4 in progress (+0.4%)

Total Land: 1,126 Acres (98.5% built)
In Progress: 17 Acres (1.5%)

** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. Produce 6,300 bushels per day (7,875 with FL)
2. -49.3% thieves losses, +9.9% thievery effectiveness
3. +9.8% defense bonus, -14.7% losses when attacked
4. Training about 4.4 wizards per hour
5. Produce 2,220 runes per day
6. 35.4% catch enemy thieves, 59.1% identify them
7. Increase science maximum by 29.4%

** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **
2. -50.2% thieves losses, +10% thievery effectiveness
3. +10% defense bonus, -15.1% losses when attacked
4. Training about 4.5 wizards per hour
5. Produce 2,250 runes per day
6. 36% catch enemy thieves, 59.9% identify them
7. Increase science maximum by 30%
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Science Intelligence on Hobbits from Hell (13:50)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.43 Beta 2]

** Effects Summary (Known Science Only) **
+34.5% Income (16,828 points)
-6.8% Building Time (756 points)
+17.8% Population Limits (18,061 points)
+73.5% Food Production (19,596 points)
+0% Offensive Military Strength
+65% Thievery Effectiveness (17,420 points)
+67.4% Magic Effectiveness (18,980 points)

** Science Points in Progress **
Alchemy: 2,645 points in progress
Tools: 41 points in progress
Housing: 1,773 points in progress
Food: 691 points in progress
Crime: 2,234 points in progress
Channeling: 1,129 points in progress



Just today I made it to Lord. Title is likely temporary; as soon as I'm retalled against by that large wizard I will more than likely lose it, regardless of how well I'm doing fighting him off. I skyrocketed from 200 acres to 1,200 acres within 10 days of starting, but had to stop growing because we were looking for war. Have been readying for war for about 3 weeks, no room to grow. Woke up yesterday to find Aragorn playing with buttons on my shirt. He must be after the Ring. Damn its siren call. Don't understand how toe sucking fits into things, though. Ah well, Sam will kill him if he tries anything. This is last war, I'm told, then we'll have a month's rest, should give me the opportunity to grow to 4,000 acres or so with paradise. Gotta love this 72dpa/12tpa/2wpa strat that I concocted, love them schools. Have to remember to science pump and elite pump when I make it to 2200 acres or so.