Xazor, question~!

[Arya Ravenwing]

Hey I was reading your and Sanis' thread in RPing, and I was wondering, what is your armor made out of?

edit: I know this could be considered PM material, but I think it might be OOC information that others will want to know as well.

OOC of course, not IC.

[Marcus Telcontar]

:: Points to Helenias ::

Ask her, for that's where it came from. If it's anything like what I think it is, its modified Imperial Guard. I think I remeber where Xazor was given it, there was a full description there.

[Arya Ravenwing]

It stops bullets? I thought all "armor" was for blaster repelling only, which is what made the rail guns you invented like the greatest thing since sliced bread.

So confused.

[Sejah Haversh]

Well, rail guns would probably still be able to get through it, I can't think of something wearable that would stop that that wouldn't cruss your spine from mass weight.

I imagine it stops *normal* bullets, like from the guns we know, but not rail gun rounds.

Though I could be wrong. I'm pulling guesses out of the blue, here.

[Marcus Telcontar]

I turned and walked over to my spare room. I opened the door and turned on the light… that lit up a display wire frame that had mounted on it a set of grey armour that was more like a work of art than something to use in battle. A dark cape set of the full set, that had a gold and silver clasp, the helmet was shaped similar to one Boba Fett once used, but with a wider visor and gold lining, with a silver insignia of the Jedi Warriors on the forehead. The gloves were deep black, with gold palm inserts, boots also deep black with the insignia of the NRSF carved in silver on the shin guards. A dark silver utility belt finished the entire ensemble. It looked utterly beautiful – and completely deadly and menacing.

“It has inbuilt temperature control, waste reprocessing and also fluid supply. It’s made from the latest technology in personal armour, it will block a blaster and I could hit you with a club and it wont affect you. The cloak is woven out of Cortoris, which will cause a sabre to shut down if it intersects. It’s light weight and does not restrict movement to any real degree. The helmet has a built in optical sensors that can adjust for any lighting conditions, personnel tracking sensors and hearing enhancers, which you can use to filter loud noise and only hear what you want. With a trooper wearing this he or she can become a virtual walking minature AT-ST.. A Jedi…. Who knows. It is what you make of what you have that will define what it is”

What makes a rail gun fun is it's speed of it's projectile. It carries a kinetic load high enough to make personal armour meaningless and break shields. Normal projectile gun dont stand a chance against even Stormtrooper armour (SW Essential guide to verify), Royal Guard armour is more so. A hyped up gun, like an RPG, guass or rail gun may carry enough impact energy to break armour. But it would need to be one hell of a gun. Stormie armour does repel blasters, yes, that is correct. I would imagine that anthing that is percussion based would bounce and maybe only bruise, even at close range. To beat moderm armour, plus also give Jedi slight problems, somethign faster with a heavier projectile is needed, maybe even armour piercing.

I dont know if the armour had a personal shield generator

[Diego Van Derveld]

Ok thanks...therefore the shell gun would indeed penetrate such armor.

[Arya Ravenwing]

Like, say, a bullet traveling at hyperspeeds?

Or maybe an Attack Ferret?

[Marcus Telcontar]

How is the Mandalorian gun powered? Percussion or some other means of acceleration?

[Diego Van Derveld]

standard explosive propellant for initial movement, then acceleration into hyperspeed via a small motivator.

*the hyperdrive motivator is only intrinsic to that particular make of shell. Its custom made for high velocity. Normally, standard method of propellant is simple explosive propellant, with force of impact equal or slightly greater to a 12 gauge slug shot. There are other makes of shell which can be fired from the weapon:

Light BlueFlashbang shell, which makes a distracting noise and bright light.

Red Shape charge, which is tipped with a focused explosive.

Yellow Incendiary, which is filled with a pressurized jelly napalm.

Blue shell, which has a shield generating device that creates a moving field of force (think an artificial force push)

Green shell, which contains tensanet webbing which is a high tensile composite like kevlar. It ensnares a target.

Black shell, which is essentially cortosis flak

Can also fire shot or standard slugs, and I've considered designing new ammo types as well, but I've used this same setup since January 2001.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Yes, that would do it. Unless there is a personal shield generator to break through first. Usually the armour I carry in the past had one, I really cant remember if Helenias was in that habit as well. If she did, this one would too. Then it would be one to break the shield, two to break the armour. Would be the same for a Rail Gun.

Unless it's specifically mentioned somewhere, it doesnt have one.

[Ishiva Ruell]

There are rail guns in the SW universe such as...


Magna Caster-100
this unusual weapon was produced by Frohad Galactic Firearms, and was essentially a dart-shooting rail gun which used magnetic resistance to launch the projectile at its target. This made the weapon extremely quiet to use, but they were produced in such small numbers that they are extremely rare on both the open and black markets. (ROE)

Arachnia EMRG-50 Rail Gun
this weapon has an incredible range, able to hit targets at point-black distances and up to 4,000 meters away. It has a strong recoil, which required a strong individual to shoot it. (TSK)


My character wears a ballistic vest made of specialized materials to deal with standard projectile weapons and blasters.

[Diego Van Derveld]

I'm thinking about creating a shell filled with killer nanites, just for LD :angel

[Arya Ravenwing]

:cry

[Diego Van Derveld]

Or maybe a shell filled with lye powder, for Ogre :D

[TheHolo.Net]

Mneh, Sanis knows nothing about Ogre or his family's blood chemistry IC. :p

[Diego Van Derveld]

I can think proactively :)!

[Marcus Telcontar]

Been using Rail Guns since 2001. The NRSF Rail technology is based on the Arachnia, but with two differences - it's recoiless and virtually silent if the power is turned down and the bullet is fired at sub sonic. at full power of approx Mach 5, its a whipcrack, although when the projectile hits, it get a wee bit noisy. Main variants are the

Carbine "Up and under" -Up setting is a 250 shot blaster rifle, under is a 40 shot rail gun that is semi auto. Looks liek the guns in Aliens :)

Sniper variant

Rotating barrel variant, the "Scorpion". Six barreled MiniGun, Jyanis Scorpion's toy. Built to destroy the neigbourhood

The Assault Gun or the Helenias variant. Pump action, has 10 accelerators, not the standard 5. Percussion fired to throw a much bigger projectile into the accelerators, ammo type has twin sabot that fall away in flight, leaving either small pellets or up to a single projectile for some real hitting power.

Mark I, III and III handgun. Mark I is the Force Master Hunter prototypes, Mark II is what the NRSF carry, the Mark III is the newer Marcus variant

Never implimented - tripod mounted RPG

[Diego Van Derveld]

<img src=http://www.bama.ua.edu/~hicks020/pics/shellgun.jpg>

[Gurney Devries]

Those look, um... not kosher.

[Lord Gue]

My boss shot me, I shoot you, its a viscous cycle

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I wouldn't want to eat one, that's for sure.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Speeds BEYOND light?!?!?! WTF? I was thinking hyersonic. Remember, hyperspace is not actually IN this dimension, it exists outside. Einstein cant be beaten inside normal space, even in Star Wars, you have to move outside of it. Plus hyperdrive generators are not that small and take a lot of energy on the acceration run to hyperspace. I cant see that working.

[Diego Van Derveld]

Hapan engineers micromanaged damn near everything with such attentiveness to compact form. There was a custom made Miy'Til fighter with some insane microsizing. Not on that level, but right about.

And if its outside our dimension, then the quote Han makes about bouncing off interstellar phenomenon makes no sense.

[Gurney Devries]

I just don't see the advantages to a projectile travelling quite that fast.

[Diego Van Derveld]

I'm willing to concede some manner of quasi-hyperspeed on that, like a flash moment of hyperdrive...because its essentially an instantaneous, one-use, one-way trip. Doesn't have to go speed of light and/or beyond, but its fuggin fast...as fast, or faster than a rail charge.

[The Lost Jedi]

That's all it needs to be. A projectile of that size, travelling at hypersonic velocity, would leave not much more than a red splat

[Helenias Evenstar]

That would be strange if I had not written in some form of energy shielding or personal shield generator. My armour does have one. It's one of these things I and Marcus do by default and for a long time. It's been so long since that armour was given, what it can do has slipped my mind

* I go find the data pad the specs are on *

[Lilaena De'Ville]

As I remember, personal shield generators are sort of...impractical for a couple of different reasons.

One of them being, that the shield cannot be sustained for long without having to carry around a power pack the size of a wookiee.

Plus, ARGH I can't remember but I read about one being used (I think it might have been in Shadows of the Empire, but I have no idea) and it was explained in the book why not everyone carried one. Because, hey, if they were worth it, I'd have one on Arya.

*shrug*

You don't think its paranoid and overkill to have super duper armor AND a shield generator? Most governments wouldn't pay to have those sorts of things implemented, so you better not be saying that the entire NRSF has those too. 'Cause I will laugh. :lol <--see? :p

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Oh yeah, and you said "your" armor does, so does that mean Xazor's does too? So you have two pairs of super armour, or three?

[Diego Van Derveld]

Sanis packs a shield generator, but as you mentioned, it is something that uses a lot of power, therefore, can only be used for a few minutes at a time, aka, can't keep it on indefinitely.

Shields are preferable to armor for Sanis because its subtle, and you can wear a shield without looking like you're expecting world war 3.

[Silus Xilarian]

*covers himself head to toe in Quantum, inner lined with cortosis, with shield generators, and a power pack the size of a wookie.*

Someone help me off the ground plz :)

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

:lol

[Xazor Elessar]

Whoa...now I'm confuzzled. :lol Yeah, just wondering if mine has one or not, Helenias! :D I was right though with what I said in the thread....and everything Marcus and Helen have stated is correct...so whomever began this thread (can't remember now after reading through a few pages) hope you got your answer! ;)

[Arya Ravenwing]

Zat was me. :wave

I think I might have missed the answer, what is the material that the armour is made out of?

And :lol:lol @ Silus. :D

[Attack Ferrets of Doom]

:lol :lol


I think you forgot you ferret armor, there

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

Originally posted by Attack Ferrets of Doom
:lol :lol


I think you forgot you ferret armor, there

is there such a thing? j/k

[Marcus Telcontar]

You don't think its paranoid and overkill to have super duper armor AND a shield generator? Most governments wouldn't pay to have those sorts of things implemented, so you better not be saying that the entire NRSF has those too

Remember, the NRSF are the elite and Tohmahawk had his ways of getting money for toys. Standard equipment is polymer armour, personal shield, rail guns and a lot of training. Plus Bushwackers for gorund assaults - whether it's worn or not, well whatever. It's the possible equipment list. Given the NRSF is a much smaller force now, it's quite possible and fine - why wouldnt you give the elite the best? The 135th of the NRSF had similar armour to Turbogeek in 1999 - High quality composites (steels are out of the question, too damn heavy), with backpack shield generator, styled in the manner closish to Guardsmen.

I cant think of any armour that can be worn by humans or near humans that could be anything other than plastic composites. Above this, you woud need powered suits and thats pretty above and beyond personal armour classes

[Sanis Prent]

You could get into the kind of suit that Admiral Fyyar wore, but that thing is ridiculously strong, and cumbersome.

[Marcus Telcontar]

No no no nothing outrageous - just something logical and useful that gives an edge.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

So its plastic?

Oh I re-read the cloak description: woven out of cortosis...thats extremely rare and expensive, and its a mineral, so I'll not go into the physics of looming materials, but I think it would be a safer bet to call the cloak "threaded through with cortosis" instead of COMPLETELY cortosis.

Because, thats like...wearing ...um... Well, we sell wool sweaters at my store that can run up to $300 for A SWEATER. A cortosis (fully cortosis that is) cloak seems to be impossible. :D just IMO, something to think about.

I know the "woven with cortosis" thing has been done before by characters, but never the entire cloak, just bits of it have some woven into it.

[Sanis Prent]

Not to mention cortosis is brittle as hell...its like asbestos or something...completely impractical for armor use, and more impractical for weaving into armor.

[Figrin D'an]

LMAO! :lol


Sorry... I know this is supposed to be a serious thread... but fictional physics discussions just crack me up sometimes.


:lol


^_^;


okay... I'm better now...

Back to your regularly scheduled programming... ;)

[Arya Ravenwing]

;)


I'll not go into the physics of looming materials I was rather proud of that one. :D :lol