Garou Question.

[Chance]

Are the Garou basically lycanthropes?

By that, I mean, if your scratch/bit/mauled/torn/spat-on/drooledon/ect.. you 'become' such?

[Xazor Elessar]

Not to my knowledge........the Garou is a trait.....it's really hard to explain but it's not something you get by being mauled/scratched/etc.....now someone said there is a diff between Lupine and Garou.....so you may wish to know of the Lupine.....(not sure what diff there is, if any). Hope this helps..... :)

[Laarseerro Reeaarrro]

With the Lupines - which I made up :D - you can be biten to change you, but it has to be done under very specific conditions, and usually requires that you have dormant Lupine genes within you (whether it be naturally or implanted, as has been done with Sieken Kasstra).

With the Garou, in the books, you can be bitten and will become one as far as I know, and it doesn't require any sort of ritual as I've made it with the Lupines.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Genetic based shapechangers in other words?

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

Well the way I play mine (which I have been told is "okay" by the Uber Lupine expert) is that its a dual state mimic. Neither human nor wolf, but a creature that can disguise itself as either. Unlike other shapeshifters, they have a fixed, unique look for either of their states. Thus, they can't look like another person or another wolf, etc.

(Shuts up, and returns to reading Discworld) ^_^;

[Santhia]

*Dabs sweat off jubei-chan*:)

There are a few good Garou sites that explain everything

http://www.white-wolf.com/Games/Pages/Werewolfhome.html
http://www.angelfire.com/goth/somath/Garou.html

Hope that helps a little :)

[Vega Van-Derveld]

Uber Lupine expert

:D!!

And yes, the offficial White-Wolf page is good for Garou info.

However there is no documentation on Lupines! Only me, I am the living info source :lol

[Santhia]

*Staples Vega to a bulletin board*

ASk away Chance :)

[Vega Van-Derveld]

:) He probably wants Garou info anyway, not Lupine stuff, since Garou are a lot more popular to create as characters - and easier, since to be Lupine you mussst be a Van-Derveld :mneh

[Santhia]

Yeah, but VDs spread like.....Vds :)


:lol

[Vega Van-Derveld]

:lol!!

[Dae Jinn]

:D

[Chance]

Exactly, Thankies :)

Ya, If I have any Q that need A's I'll be calling :)

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

:lol

[Verse Dawnstrider]

I am the Garou God! I was the first Garou ever on the boards.....

::Pulls out his Werewolf: The Apocolyse, Player Guide.::

The Garou are genetic based. It is carried on a ressesive trait. Only 1 of every 10 people are Garou. This also allows the trait to skip generations.

[Diego Van Derveld]

:huh

(skips away, reading of the exploits of the von Uberwald dynasty)

[Santhia]

Hehe, Diego skipping.....scarey :)

[Verse Dawnstrider]

Very much so. The world is going to end!!!!!!!!!

[Makoto Neosis]

The Garou are genetic based. It is carried on a ressesive trait. Only 1 of every 10 people are Garou. This also allows the trait to skip generations.

On-Contraire,

I read that only 1 out of 10 children are pure Garou ;)

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

pretty much any male skipping is a "gah" but a garou one = ack.....

[Verse Dawnstrider]

There is no such thing as a 'Pure-Garou' I have the players guide that White-Wolf put out for RPers and base 98% of the Garou here on it (Have to change slightly due to this being Star Wars.) Sence teh trait is ressessive, if two Garou have a child, the child comes out weak and deformed. It is called a 'Metis'. A Metis is not seen as an equal in the Garou World, and they are sterile. They can not have children. They are nick-named Mules.

What you say is sorta true. If a woman had 10 kids, and she carried the Garou trait, there is a chance one of them are Garou. There is also a slim chance 1 or all of the other 9 are 'Kin-Folk'. They are able to travel with there Garou relitives and not worry about going insane if they see a Garou in Crinos-Form (Halfman/half wolf). So in a way you are true, but to be a stronge healty Garou, you need one Garou parent (or trait carrier) and one normal human. Also, many Garou/GArou children don't survive being borm because they are born in teh Crinos Form. They die at birth many times. They are seen as 'Wrym-Tainted' and are disliked and even killed many times.

I normaly don't worry about that here because it would be unfair RP wise to say "Your char saw me change, so she/he is now crazy" and I don't worry about the Metis thing because I think it is kinds stupid. One would think a Garou/Garou child would not be deformed.

So in a sence...your kinda right. The only 9 can't do any Garou stuff, only see were-creatures in Crinos form. Go show on bring that up though.

[Navaria Tarkin]

speaking of white wolf ..

http://www.swforums.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22550

those that have access please respond.

[Navaria Tarkin]

oh and yes, there are pure garou. They are called Lupus'.... They are the closest to Gaia's purity. Hence why they are rare in White Wolf.

[Dae Jinn]

*cries cos she doesn't have access* Wah! :lol

[Kelt Simoson]

*Thinks Jenny shouldmake a website on Lupins*

[Chaos Alexander]

Lupus are Garou born as a wolf. They share wolf parents. One has to have the trait. Both wolves can not have the trait though or a metis results.

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

hmm...*takes notes*

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

what? chaos what book did you read?

Only when two werewolves mate is a metis born. Unless something changed since I got the original books

edit~ last thing I say about this too. since my feelings on the matter of white wolf here is made. anyone wanting to know how I feel can AIM or PM me :)

[Verse Dawnstrider]

I got the new Werewolf :Player's Guide. I ordered it from the White Wolf home page.

[Santhia]

Okay, so you can be Garou as long as you keep it as SW-y as possible? No sweat :) :lol

Kinda how I play Dae then.

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

I think this may have been answered before, but what does a Cizerack + a Garou produce?

[Dante]

hmm... i dunno, but i dont wanna meet one.....
Ick, horribly deformed cat puppies >_<

[Xazor Elessar]

A Ciz and Garou produce something like a Were-Cat.....more cat than anything else. Vicious beings they are. Ask Verse if you want to know more about those..... ;)

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

:lol maybe I will....not with this alias or course but I have others....

[Dasquian Belargic]

I think this may have been answered before, but what does a Cizerack + a Garou produce?


The same as a vamp + garou - an 'Abomination'.

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

was just curious since with some of the interactions, one might opps happen.....*looks towards eden lady and Verse*

[Gurney Devries]

The clans of vampires in V:tM are so drastically different that they could each qualify as their own seperate race. Maybe I should introduce a race of Tzimisce... hmm... ;)

[Kelt Simoson]

I dont belive in vamps anyway, but thats eveyones prefrence i guess...I think vamps would need a very good thread to explain how they came about, and for it to be explined rather than guessed at.