Padawan Clans (My big inspired idea to solve the padawan problem)

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

Ok, you know how in AotC, where Master Yoda teaches Bear Clan? I just figured out how Obiwan could be taught by both Qui Gon and by Yoda, as he claimed.

Okay, how about we take brand new padawans (7 at a time) and have them put into padawan clans, and taught by yours truly....kinda like a Force user's basic training, where they're taught basic mental discipline, physical training, and spirituality of the Force, which provides a basis for future development when they are taken by a master.

Ideas?

[Xazor Elessar]

But we nearly have the Padawan situation under control. If it explodes again, that's a good idea, but it's taking away from my Force class then...which is basically what you're talking about, but larger. I think that Navaria and I have done a really good job with that.....but this is just my opinion.

[Marcus Telcontar]

you have done a very good job Xazor.

If Jubei wants to take the next open Class, that's a good idea too. I think open classes should be held all the time, regarless of Padawan oversupply problems

[Xazor Elessar]

Thankies Marcus! :D

That's a good idea, BTW...I think that if they want to learn more outside of their personal training, we should have all levels of classes. Just like Sage has the class after mine. He trains them in the advanced stuff. Perhaps a three step program??? I think it would be cool to have something for the Knights.....where we learn new things from the Masters. Would be fun and helpful, perhaps. :)

[Loki Ahmrah]

I think Padawan Clans are a great idea. I was actually against it in the past but think about it:

Each Padawan Learner has their own Master. However, in order to benefit from the wisdom and experience of other masters, they are assorted into clans and in the GJO we have, say four seasons a year. A master or two is assigned one of the four clans and in those three months holds a couple of open lessons for the clan as a whole. Then after the term, the Padawan's swap for a new master or couple of masters.

I know what you're thinking: "But Padawan's are usually promoted after 3 months!"

Well that's true but who's to say that a clan is just a Padawan thing, it would be nice to be affiliated with a clan even as a Jedi Knight. It gives padawans an immediate sense of family and gives masters, knights and padawans something they can relate to on equal grounds, Master Yoghurt: "Ah yes! I too am a member of Bear Clan. Between you and I - it's the best!" :)

Think of the possibilities: Clan Points could be awarded (think Harry Potter for that :)) and there could be big inter-clan tornaments ranging from padawans all the way up to masters. There's nothing better than good team spirit and a healthy sense of competition.

I think this clan idea should be looked into much more. GJO is a great place but it's training methods and community spirit can be imporved greatly (as much as I already love it here): I give the clan idea a big thumbs up!

[Xazor Elessar]

Oooooooo, Loki you have some really great ideas!! :D I like all of what you said, I say go for it!!! :)

[Ryla Relvinian]

...and then we could have Quiddich!

erm, sorry.

But seriously, this is a great idea. I think that it would especially benefit masters, so that the ones that won't stick around don't waste our time, dig? Also, they can get used to RPing in a large group situation, which is a good thing. I say go for it.

[Alpha]

Me like Loki's idea!!!

[Andraq Novkar]

I like the idea of that. But a question, what about the padawan's who masters are training them?

Does their progress go the same? Or will it just be on this clan idea?

The main idea of their lessons I mean. Will they still have 1-1 Master training with their current master?

Or is this just for masterless Padawans?

[Loki Ahmrah]

Will they still have 1-1 Master training with their current master?

Definately, as far as I would think. Why not?

I mean, the clans would just help develop individuals as better Jedi or prospective Jedi whereas masters still kept their intimate one-on-one relationship with their padawans and it would be by them that their progress is confirmed.

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

Forget it.

[Marcus Telcontar]

:: Whaps Ryla with a broom stick::

OUT! NO QUIDDICH!

:p

Nice ideas Loki.

[Loki Ahmrah]

All I did was elaborate on the possibilities of Jubei's proposal.

[Andraq Novkar]

ah, I see what you mean. Thank you Loki.

Will this be a necessity, or is it the Padawan's discretion, or the Padawan's Master?

[Jedi Master Leia Solo]

Originally posted by Jubei SaDherat Vader
Forget it.

HUH???!:huh

WAIT GUYS!!! All of these are very good ideas but lets get back to what Jubei asked.

Jubei specializes in areas that some of our Masters/Knights don't. I very much like the idea of him taking on padawans in a clan.

What do you say?

[Morgan Evanar]

I'm going to have to think about this, but the concepts seem sound.

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

I said forget it because the idea with my name on the endorsement steps on some people's sensitive little toes a bit too much. They'd rather see it done with somebody else in the think tank.

[Jedi Master Leia Solo]

Well I DON'T think so Jubei! I think its a wonderful idea. Considering Jubei's background and all.

I endorse you on this!

[Xazor Elessar]

Don't feel sorry for yourself....we all like your idea, but Loki added some other great ideas to it. I think that more than just you should lead these clans...each Knight and Master have different things to offer the Padawans....

[Andraq Novkar]

I also like this idea, and I know I am merely a Padawan, but I will support it.

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

Don't feel sorry for myself, huh? I'll remind myself.

[Jedi Master Leia Solo]

Xaz: I don't think he feels sorry for himself.

It was the fact he suggested something and would like to help out GJO in that way. I see nothing wrong with that. Their can always be other clans too. No one said no to that. But from what I see...Jubei would like to start one up now and I think that is a great idea.

[Xazor Elessar]

Then take the ten masterless ones that are left. There are new ones coming in that I have to start listing...

[Jedi Master Leia Solo]

Sounds good. As long as no one objects to this.

I would suggest Jubei starting a class up. And Xaz if you may..please give him a list of new masterless padawans.
Thank you!

[Anbira Hicchoru]

I think seven will be best in order to give the most attention to them without overloading myself. As stated, others would be fine to be formed, and competition is to be expected (maybe like spar tournaments, etc). I'd prefer new padawans, though masters currently with padawans could also defer to allow basic skills to be taught in these clans. I think it would be a relief to the masters, who could focus on more advanced lessons when their padawans progress. Not to mention, I think there's an element of comraderie and espirit that can be tapped here. If green-lighted, I'll try to make an open house of it, so its available for critique and suggestion. I have quite a few ideas, but Xazor, Loki, Nav, and Sage all have some as well, not to mention some others.

[Xazor Elessar]

I'll get the list up here. You only want seven, I'll pick out the seven that have been waiting the longest then. :)

[Loki Ahmrah]

Ok, now that the bickering is over and done with I'd like to develop more on this clan idea:

First of all, four clans? What do people think?

Padawans are assorted into the clan best suited for the character and abiliies. So what are these abilities? Does Bear Clan represent strength and courage for example? Whereas another clan, such as Owl Clan for example - bad name, I know - would represent knowledge and wisdom?

Then one master would be the head of each clan - yes, I am thinking very much along the lines of Harry Potter for this, but it can very much work for GJO - the Jedi Master at the head of each house should be the embodiment of their clans values.

Once the four clans are decided on - Bear Clan a definate? - I suggest we assign the appropriate values for their members and then have masters sort their padawan(s) into the clan they feel is best suited to them.

I also propose that the head of each clan should be a Jedi Master from the council and that people nominate the council member best suited to each clan and find out their opinions about which clan they would be best suited to.

As for Knights and the rest, anyone who is fairly knowledgeable about their characters should make a suggestio for which clan they should be best suited. Thoughts?

[Helenias Evenstar]

I agree with you Loki, in fact I believe I suggested similar before AOTC came out after I read the novelisation. The Warrior's I believe are moving down this path as the Clan idea is one very much worthwhile. I suggested then a Master in charge, wtih 3-4 Knights and about 10 Padawans as a good mix of experience, skill and numbers.

[Loki Ahmrah]

Ah yes, it was you who suggested it. I was innitially against it because I didn't want to subsititute the One-on-One method of Master and Padawan, but now I realise both schemes can co-exist.

Yes, I'd say one master, four knights and ten padawans are the minimum requirements per se, because it may be that we have that many knights that we may need to have more than just four in each clan, same thing goes with masters, one master as the head of the clan. But if we had only four clans then obviously we'd have more than just one master per clan. I'm gonna start pondering on some names for clans and the characteristics of it's members.

[Xazor Elessar]

Good ideas guys. I suggest the "Wolf Clan"...no reason why. :mneh The wolf is a Warrior....has a great mass of strength and is wise. The wolf is calm, but acts quickly when needed. Anyone like this one??? :)

[Hunk]

Well what are the various paths a jedi can specialize in? The ones I can think of are warriors, healers, and researchers/recordkeepers.

Now obviously the majority of the jedi rp'ers fall into the first group, so perhaps 2 clans of warriors should be created. If it's still to imbalenced, perhaps there should be three warrior clans and one for a combined group of healers and researchers.

[Sanis Prent]

Actually, I am kinda against specialty clans. It seems too early in the padawan's training for specialization, when they should just be getting the "basics" instead. Also, it would kinda make it "okay" for the brainy, less brawny padawans to slack off on their martial skills, or maybe the slower-learning ones to relax on their wits. I would rather confront their weaknesses head-on, and force them to rise to the challenge, and have their whole clan support them in carrying the burden.

[Hunk]

Ahh, touche. You bring up a good point. The clan setup would be at the earliest stages of jedi raining, and, as such, specialties would not be relevent, since the focus would be on the basic nature of the force and the more rudimentary skills

[Loki Ahmrah]

I would rather confront their weaknesses head-on, and force them to rise to the challenge, and have their whole clan support them in carrying the burden.

Hence the reason for the suggested three month rota. The members of each clan would get trained by all masters at some point in time, learning from their experience and if all masters get in on it, it's more likely that more weaknesses will be identified and remedied.

It's not for specialisation; think about it - Someone is in a "knowledge and wisdom" clan so naturally they will be encouraged to learn and be intellectual and whatnot, however, this also allows instructors to say - Ok, so these are the brainiacks, let's toughen em up now.

It makes the whole system far more manageable.

[Xazor Elessar]

my sentiments exactly, Loki! :D

[Andraq Novkar]

This raises my question again. Will this become normal procedure. Or do Padawan's have a choice, or is it at the Masters discretion ?

[Sanis Prent]

I believe it should be the masters decision.

[Sanis Prent]

Well, its rather impractical to wait for a certain number of "a certain type" of Jedi, so you can put the braniacs in one group and the meat-heads in another, etc. Not even the braniacs or the meat-heads are alike. I mean, you've got so many different kind of Jedi, depending on how closely you look, that lumping them by skill is just a waste of time.

Instead, the clan would work as a team. Sure, there's individual achievement, but if a clanmate is struggling in a show of strength, his other clanmates would encourage or assist him, because there is always some situation out there in which a Jedi just won't have what it takes to rise above a challenge. However, as a team, they are invincible.

Once you get "the basics" down, that concept of team effort is a given to them. At that point, they can go on to learn specialized things, like Force Underwater Basket Weaving, or whatever they may excel in. But, they still know the basics...and when their underwater basket weaving skill won't save the day, they know how to support, and in turn, be supported by, their team.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I like this Clan idea a lot.

Maybe the whole Order could become part of clans, like in the NRSF sort of. Maybe the Healers, Warriors, Seers, Elementalists, etc. Or just a few of each in each Clan.

[Xazor Elessar]

There's only one prob with that, though. I am a warrior, mentalist, elementist, and healer. :lol What would I do????

[Hunk]

Split yourself into 4 neat, even pieces.

Hmmm...do a smell a clones storyline? :lol

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Well like they say, Xazor: "The Jack of all Trades is the Master of none."

[Dasquian Belargic]

Specialize in one thing primarily, it makes for a more interesting character.

[Sanis Prent]

Exactly. For instance, Anbira is almost entirely skilled in physical telekinesis alone, while Jubei's skills seem to involve only life, healing, and one's body.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Therefore, for example, Vega can't beat Anbira, because his main skill lies in agility and physical prowess - which Anbira can best him in.

[Sanis Prent]

However, mentalists and those with advanced control of the mind can have a field day against him (Sorsha, Akrabbim, etc)

[AmazonBabe]

Well, I for one love the idea as it will keep newbies from feeling left out when there are no Masters to train them.

Only problem I'm having now is sorting through this clutter to actually find the relevant information for these clans.

[Kelt Simoson]

I like the Idea also, Kelt is one with nature, if he uses any force at all its Nature force, such as the elements, trees or plants another idea i would like to slap about a bit.

Perhaps having a single spealty in each clan...say

One is a Healer, one is a Telekinetic another is a force fighter so on and so forth so that we have every single type of ability in every clan...OR..perhaps having the clan concentrate on a single spealty for instance.

The bear clan particular concentrate on: Fighter, agility and combat
The wolf clan: Stealth and speed
The owl clan: Knowledge and wisdom
The Fox clan: Intelligence and healing

So that any chracter can pick and anylise what there chracters attitude towards life/home/fighting is and concentrate on that subject at hand and form there chracter int that class of Jedi.

Etc etc...just and idea :)

[Xazor Elessar]

Ya know what Charley? I am the master to more than you are. I excel in the area of the mentalist mainly, but to be a BETTER teacher, I have expanded my knowledge to other areas. I was asking a question and did not need your derrogatory comment.

[Loki Ahmrah]

Actually, if we take the true symbolism behind those animals you've listed, Kelt, it would be something more like this:

Bear - strength, healing, introspection.
Wolf - Commitment, sociability, stamina.
Owl - Wisdom, sight, alertness.
Fox - Camouflage, cleverness, loyalty.


Nevertheless, I see a major flaw in this system as highlighted by Sanis/Anbira earlier. The clans should not specialise, the clan members will all be taught the same things however their characters hold an emphasis on the values of their clan. They are values, not skills. For example, a Bear Clan member will not be stronger than someone from Owl Clan, it's just that the people in Bear Clan will focus more on courage, care of others and self-searching whereas an Owl Clan member will hold wisdom, observation and preparation in a higher regard.

Clans are suited to a Jedi's personality NOT their skills.

My proposals for clans would be:
<LI> Bear Clan - courage, care for others and introspection(self-searching)
<LI> Hawk Clan - honor, inspiration and activity.
<LI> Lizard Clan - serenity, wisdom and humility.
<LI> Squirrel Clan - preparation, trust and friendliness.

Of course, the names of clans can be altered to a Star Wars equivalent of the animal. Depends on whatever clans we have in the end. I know jubei for example has intentions of starting a clan and the name and values of the clan will be at his discretion. But we really need to lay down some ground rules for these clans soon. Thanks for the input, guys. Anything you'd like to contribute, please do.

[Xazor Elessar]

Then the people that Liam and I are teaching to be Warriors can have their own clan. We were moving toward that earlier this month. We liked the idea of the wolf clan for the qualities that animal posseses. I like your ideas Loki and AB. Very cool. :)

[Loki Ahmrah]

Oh no! Let's not separate the warriors from everyone else anymore than they already are! :(

[Xazor Elessar]

I wasn't saying to separate them....just add it onto the program..... :)

[Loki Ahmrah]

I would strongly go against warriors have their own separate clan though, they are separated from the rest of GJO as it is, they should be integrated with the rest of the Jedi, Warriors they may be but Jedi they still are.

[Xazor Elessar]

I know, they can still be in the regular clans, but we need to have our own group so that we can work together as well. It will strengthen us...

[Xazor Elessar]

evil evil board.... :lol

[Marcus Telcontar]

Hmmm....

:: Thinking on points put ::

I've got my mind on other things right now, but I'll come back to this. First thoughts are that I too dont want Warriors to be seperate

I would also say that I personally prefer Cat. Stealth, silence and other feline qualities. I'lll return to this after I say something else first.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Hmmm....

:: Thinking on points put ::

I've got my mind on other things right now, but I'll come back to this. First thoughts are that I too dont want Warriors to be seperate

I would also say that I personally prefer Cat. Stealth, silence and other feline qualities. I'lll return to this after I say something else first.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Hmmm....

:: Thinking on points put ::

I've got my mind on other things right now, but I'll come back to this. First thoughts are that I too dont want Warriors to be seperate

I would also say that I personally prefer Cat. Stealth, silence and other feline qualities. I'lll return to this after I say something else first.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Hmmm....

:: Thinking on points put ::

I've got my mind on other things right now, but I'll come back to this. First thoughts are that I too dont want Warriors to be seperate

I would also say that I personally prefer Cat. Stealth, silence and other feline qualities. I'lll return to this after I say something else first.

[Kelt Simoson]

Glad your like my idea..thats a first :p.

I dont think we should have TO many clans to be honest, to many clans means to much hassel and eventually we would run out of Good Attitude skills and personalitys. Personaly i think we should have 4-8 clans 10 at most and like Loki said have some Harry Potter type points and competitions. For intence.

Mabey a Jedi fighting compertition, which dont only have to be combat, it could be force fighting without useing any lightsabers of any kind.

we could give points out to those who beat a Sith or other scum of the galaxy.

we could also give poins for passing tests from which the clan leader gives out to indervisuals.

Again we could give points out for acts of bravery towards the generel public of a planet, for beating a murderer in RP or again ridding of a Sith.

There can be many possiblities.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Here is an idea - change the Warriors forum into one for clans. Do your competitions and organising of the said clans in there. This idea could really, really work and I would be prepared to run with it.

The Warriors are a Sect. It is a different but valid way to be a Jedi and it's not just for one clan or clique - please no. If it becomes a clique, scrap it. A clan is a group outlined in posts above. A Clan can have a whole mix of Jedi and should!I'd like to take a Clan, but I would not emphasis on fighting - I have a different idea. i would have Honour, trust, friendship as values. I would take it as a challenge to do something outside of my normal.

I love this idea and I love this discussion

[Sanis Prent]

Originally posted by Xazor Leo Dawnstrider
Ya know what Charley? I am the master to more than you are. I excel in the area of the mentalist mainly, but to be a BETTER teacher, I have expanded my knowledge to other areas. I was asking a question and did not need your derrogatory comment.

Its precisely that kind of mindset that is making you go about this all wrong. If you want to take my friendly advice as some kind of insult, you can kindly refrain from speaking to me again. I'm tired of worrying if speaking frankly is going to step on your toes.

[Loki Ahmrah]

I would also say that I personally prefer Cat. Stealth, silence and other feline qualities. I'lll return to this after I say something else first.

Stealth, silence and feline qualities are not something you can relate to an individuals personality - the clans have nothing to do with skills, like Sanis said earlier, for padawans especially we cannot specialise at such early stages. Leave specialisation down to the individual and their own master - clans provide the same curriculum of Jedi development as each other.

[Kelt Simoson]

I think that the clans should have like i said earlier, that eatch clan should have a personality area they concentrate on IE there attitude and ways they look at life....if there a crusader like kelt, they are a fighter for justice..IE mabey wolf or bear...if they are calm natured and try to nagotiate peace then they are a bird or rabbit.

And i agree with Sanis...credit where credit is due it was originaly his idea and we are just adding fuel to the fire.

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Yeah. Specialization at the basics isn't such a good idea. When they work 1 on 1 with a master, thats when they should learn Force Underwater Basket weaving.

Now what could be done is perhaps different teaching styles. Same things taught but in different ways.

Maybe Bear clan's teacher is a hardass
Maybe Owl clan's teacher gives pop quizzes
Maybe Tiger clan's teacher takes attendance even

That kinda thing. But loosely, same stuff should be taught I think.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I like Loki's suggestions. Also, are we going on just Jedi Master's running these clans...?

[Sanis Prent]

Nah. I say any who can offer their services. After all, its not just Doctors teaching at Universities :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

Great :)

[Figrin D'an]

This clan idea could work, it has some solid points that could be really beneficial. However, let's get away from the whole clan specialization thing, with Clan names symbolizing different traits, etc. These Clans are going to be for new padawans that need to learn the basics. Things that every Jedi needs to know. Everyone is each little clan needs to be taught the same skills and same general knowledge as all the others. When a master decides to take on a padawan is when further specialized training is to begin.

If this is going to work, I suggest we develop a single standardized curriculum for all new padawans, to be followed by the leaders/masters of each clan. Otherwise, we'll end up with Joe Padawan from Clan A talking to Sally Padawan from Clan B, finding out that Sally has learned something that he hasn't, and getting all upset and wanting to change clans or whatever...

[Dasquian Belargic]

Agreed.

Perhaps we should come up with signpost which the Padawans are meant to hit during the time within the Clan. Then maybe after they reach a certain level they can be dismissed from the Clan, or given 'Clan honours' to show that they have progressed through to a certain phase.

We could have little Clan tournaments. Nothing to large or physical, just small tasks which could benefit the Order as a whole. It's going to sound really trite, but something like maintaining the academy/buildings, going on supply runs, or other small-scale pre-organized tasks could be done. Just some things that will spark up roleplay oppertunities and get people interacting with each other.

If we want to go really far we could have (another point taken from J.K. Rowling and schooling as a whole) 'Clan points', putting a little bit of a competitive edge on the lower-scale tasks.

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

(gives Figrin the Sacred Chalice of common sense)

Oh great wise one :mneh

In the words of Ed McMahon "YES! You ah correct sah!"

[Dasquian Belargic]

Just had a bit of a look about for some possible SW animals for the clans:

<u>Arqet</u>
this ferocious, warm-blooded predator was native to the planet Pellastrallas, and was considered one of the most vicious predators in all of Agarix Sector. A solitary hunter, the arqet resembled a large, armor-plated horse, with a pair of curved horns sprouting from its temples. The feet of an arqet ended in heavy hooves, which gave it the sure-footedness to maneuver in Pellastrallas' mountains.

<u>Nexu</u>
this incredibly dangerous, feline predator was prized by those beings who staged galdiator fights during the last years of the Old Republic. The head of a nexu was wide and flat, and dominated by its toothy maw. A golden mane surrounded the head, and the paws of the nexu were studded with heavy claws.

[Loki Ahmrah]

Let's get one thinig clear on this clan thing that is being assumed already, they are not just for padawans benefits - if they were by calling them calls all we're doing is making glorified training groups - Masters, Knights and Padawans should remain within their clan, why stop at padawans?

If we are going to use a school analogy, think of the padawans as the primary school kids, the knights as high school people and the Masters as University/College students - because no matter what rank you are you never stop learning. Suffice to say this will create a strong sense of family within clans and promote a healthy sense of competion. And I agree, we should scrap the animal sybolism stuff - it's just too complicated and misinterpretted. All in all, I suggest we have four clans.

Another thing about these clans is that no one person is in control. Three masters at least should be in control of the clan or a master and four knights. This is not gonna become a "Ok who wants to join my clan?" fiasco. Four clans, all GJO members in their own clan.

[Jubei SaDherat Vader]

Nothing wrong with animal names...but people shouldn't read too much into it IMO. Its not to separate students into those traits...its just kindof a mascot.

[Loki Ahmrah]

Agreed.

[Kelt Simoson]

Most of what you said das has already been pointed out by me :p

Maybe perhaps not Animals names, maybe ledgendary jedi from way back that made a mark of the jedi? like schools or universities do?

[Sanis Prent]

Nothing wrong with animal names, for reasons stated above :)

[Kelt Simoson]

I thought that was a bloody good idea if i may say so myself :p

[Sanis Prent]

Even most universities have animal mascots :mneh

[Kelt Simoson]

Im gona kick the guy in a moment :p

[Sanis Prent]

(Pre-emptive kick)

He who dares, wins :D

[Marcus Telcontar]

I'm not too warm to animal names.... but clans named ofter old Jedi Masters... I like

[Sanis Prent]

Shall be considered, if more people don't like the animal names.

[Dasquian Belargic]

So what, it'd be like Clan Yoda and Clan Windu? O_o

[Morgan Evanar]

That would just be goofy. This is a fairly needless detail. How about we outline what which clan would be doing, and then the members can input on it?

[AmazonBabe]

Yes, what Morg said. Mindless details can be sorted later. Let's take care of the filling for this beast already!

[Figrin D'an]

To be honest, I don't like the idea of factioning everyone off into these clans. Having a few masters or knights in charge of each padawan clan is fine, as teachers and guides. But, sticking every Jedi into a clan will just create further problems. We've already seen the problems around here caused by people forming little exclusive subgroups for RP purposes. This is no different.

Keep the clans as new padawan groups. Put a couple of knights/masters in charge of each clan. Once a padawan has reached a certain level of achievement (to be decided by the Clan guides/teachers), they are ready to be choosen as an apprentice by a Master/Knight for more individualized training.

[Kelt Simoson]

Take care of the pennys and the pounds will look after themselfs...in other words you can shape a big idea with the smaller details :)...but enough of that nonsence :p. ive said my bit untill some one somes up with a bit more to the plan.

[Sanis Prent]

Well...its going to mean that probably all of the teaching Jedi's energies are going into teaching their clan. So I think that those interested in participating really need to be committed to it. So while teaching, it might not be possible to have a fight in the RP forum, and you might be spending your time teaching the young'uns, etc.

[Navaria Tarkin]

Sanis brings up a very good point. Teaching takes a lot of time, especially when you are going to be teaching the newcomers. Who knows how many people are going to be here .... people can only bounce back and forth so much before you get burned out.

As for the clans .... names aside that is :) I like. Keep it exclusice to only Padawans is good, as Fig said. There is no reason why Knights and Masters need to be in a group because they have already ascended to the next level. It is the Padawans that need to be taught afterall.

There needs to be something set up on what needs to be taught ..... that really isn't being talked about. Newbies need to learn the GJO and Swforums FAQ... they need to learn how to spar fairly .... they also need to learn how the channel the Force AND THEN learn how to use it for lifting stones or healing a paper cut :P Philosophy and of course other techniques are important.

And ... I know it was mentioned, but how long should Padawans stay in clan before having a Master? two months, three ... what? Needs to be cosidered

[Charley]

I think two months is enough time to cram what they need in their little heads :)

[Hunk]

Another concern, then, who will keep the books for this? Records will have to be kept for each padawan recording which clan they joined and when they joined it. Otherwise it will be easy to lose track of when they would "graduate" and be assigned to a master.

Are we looking at some online, script driven database, or will someone be given the job of "record keeper" and hang around the recruitment center all the time so they don't miss anyone?

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

Ryla suggested something like that I think Hunk ... I know someone did.

And it shouldn't be just one person... has to be at least two or three people working together so no one gets burned out because of it. :)

[AmazonBabe]

It can be kinda like how we do it when Council votes are being tallied. For instance, Leia and I kept going back and forth, making sure the votes were updated and the tally was correct. Besides, having more than one person helps to make sure things are kept exact. One person can lose track of something only having one brain, but two or thtree can add their brain power to help with the load of record keeping.

[Xazor Elessar]

I am the official greeter in the RC as of now, and I won't give up my job. :D I love it too much. If ya'll want, I'll keep records....I don't get burned out, trust me. I actually have the perfect lil' notebook for it!!! :D It's up to you guys though.....if you want me to do it, I'm more than willing and have everything that I need. I'll just continue my job with an added task! :)