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Sanis Prent
Jun 16th, 2002, 08:24:57 AM
How does Padme know about the hangar when she miraculously wakes up from her roll in the sand :)

BUFFJEDI
Jun 16th, 2002, 08:46:33 AM
O_o

JMK
Jun 16th, 2002, 12:06:13 PM
Neither Anakin nor Obi Wan mentioned it, did they? I guess the only "explanation" is that they saw the hangar when they were landing and she figured that's where Dooku must be heading.

Jinn Fizz
Jun 16th, 2002, 12:24:40 PM
You know, I'd realized that m'self, but...eh, what the heck. :D

ReaperFett
Jun 16th, 2002, 01:00:48 PM
Where else would Dooku be rushing to? :)




I see it that they would have half assumed, half seen he was going towards a platform and put 2 and 2 together

darth_mcbain
Jun 16th, 2002, 02:44:58 PM
Reap makes a decent point - logically Dooku had to be making his way to some hangar or spaceport to get away.

I also remember reading (but I can't remember for the life of me where) that Padme was strong in the Force as well. Not nearly as strong as a Jedi, of course, but maybe she is strong enough to have hunches and intuitions that are pretty close to reality.

Jedi Master Carr
Jun 16th, 2002, 02:52:17 PM
Reaper that was the conclusion that I came to so that would make the most since. Also some people have noted why did she get up so quickly after falling out of the gunship. My guess on that one was that she just got the wind knocked out of her, she didn't fall from that great of distance.

ReaperFett
Jun 16th, 2002, 03:42:17 PM
McBain, it was a cut scene, that's where you heard it. Makes sense. Think about it, highest midi count ever + non Jedi in theory would mean Luke and Leia wouldn't be very strong.



Also some people have noted why did she get up so quickly after falling out of the gunship
A thread at TF.N was joking about that. One person pointed out it could be one of those 50s space opera things they did. Same with the perfect Reek jump :)

JMK
Jun 16th, 2002, 04:18:58 PM
I think even more odd is at the end of the coruscant chase, Anakin bails from Zam's speeder going hundreds of miles per hour, crashes on hard onto the ground, and gets up without a scratch. Sure he's a jedi, but still, cmon, not even a wince of pain.

darth_mcbain
Jun 16th, 2002, 04:23:10 PM
You're right - I tracked it down again at theforce.net... http://www.theforce.net/episode2/cut/index2.shtml . I have no idea how genetics plays into tranferring Force ability to offspring (if at all) but considering Luke and Leia are both strong in the Force, I don't think it too strange to suggest she has some strength in the Force.

Ilyn Pyke
Jun 17th, 2002, 12:09:02 AM
Originally posted by Sanis Prent
How does Padme know about the hangar when she miraculously wakes up from her roll in the sand :)

I investigated this in the novelization and it is even more unclear because when she tumbles and falls from the ship to the moment she is knocked unconscious. Immediately after that, Padme completely disappears from the book. She is nowhere to be seen and in the book there is no scene of the clonetrooper rushing to her aid and her subsequent orders. She does not make her appearance again in the novel until after the Yoda/Dooku fight transpires in which Padme rushes to the fallen Jedi. I get the impression from the book that Yoda must of happened upon Padme and picked her up during his pursuit to confront Dooku.

Marcus Telcontar
Jun 17th, 2002, 03:56:49 AM
I think it's a bit of a goof as well. Now I'm casting my mind over it, dont see how she would have known where to go.

Starquest aka AndyR
Jun 17th, 2002, 12:08:51 PM
Easy.

Yoda goes to the hanger in a clone ship right? Well, as soon as padme wakes up and gets the trooper to get a ship, its easy enough for that second (third) ship to radio Yoda's ship and find a location.

Charley
Jun 17th, 2002, 02:15:19 PM
No, because Padme talks about the hangar the moment she wakes up...like she already knew it.

ReaperFett
Jun 17th, 2002, 02:18:02 PM
but the Airship might have already found the hangar

Charley
Jun 17th, 2002, 02:45:34 PM
Padme fell out of the ship long before Dooku even made it to the hangar...let alone the republic ship arrived there.

ReaperFett
Jun 17th, 2002, 02:54:02 PM
Gunships have advanced technology. They scan the surroundings, and find the only source of electricity on the rest of the planet.


And explain where Dooku would be going otherwise? Disneyworld? :)

Ilyn Pyke
Jun 17th, 2002, 07:42:50 PM
Originally posted by Lounge Lizard
Padme fell out of the ship long before Dooku even made it to the hangar...let alone the republic ship arrived there.

Actually LL is quite correct. There is no scene in the movie that Padme could have ever obtained information on a hangar and much more it's precise location. Dooku was seen by Obi fleeing upon a speeder from the Genosian Command Center with two fighters, from that point forward he orders the pilot of the gunship on which Padme, Anakin, and himself are aboard to pursue. Anakin commands the pilot to blow it out of the sky. A clonetrooper responds saying they are out of ordinance. While they are chasing Dooku to an unknown destination, the fighter escorts break off and circle around behind the gunship. It does take a hit and Padme falls with no knowledge of the hangar miles away.

ReaperFett
Jun 17th, 2002, 07:45:40 PM
Did we hear every word that could have possibly been said?

Ilyn Pyke
Jun 17th, 2002, 07:57:26 PM
Originally posted by ReaperFett
Did we hear every word that could have possibly been said?

It is possible they discussed Dooku possibly fleeing to hangar or a waiting ship sitting somewhere hidden. Who knows? But Padme speaks as though she knows beyond a reasonable doubt. And Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme did not have time to investigate nor find an obscure hanger sitting on a cliff face miles away from the Genosian factory, command center, or coliseaum. All three were captured fairly quick permitting very little gathered intel.

ReaperFett
Jun 17th, 2002, 08:00:36 PM
Unless it was what happened in one of the cut scenes I suppose

Ilyn Pyke
Jun 17th, 2002, 08:14:34 PM
Originally posted by ReaperFett
Unless it was what happened in one of the cut scenes I suppose

That is possible. The novelization has about all of the cut scenes contained in it. However one is missing from the book and that is Dooku dueling Yoda with two lightsabers. Maybe this sequence was scrapped fairly early by GL.

Jedieb
Jun 24th, 2002, 08:09:19 PM
It's just a minor plot hole no big deal. We're talking about it as if it ACTUALLY happened. ;)
Funny how that ship ran out of ordinance huh? It couldn't even manage a single laser blast. How convienient... :rolleyes

Jedieb
Jun 24th, 2002, 08:11:10 PM
It's just a minor plot hole no big deal. We're talking about it as if it ACTUALLY happened. ;)
Funny how that ship ran out of ordinance huh? It couldn't even manage a single laser blast. How convienient... :rolleyes It's no different than an action hero that fires 60 rounds from a machine gun that only holds a 30 round banana clip. Gee, what do we need to advance the plot... ah throw that in there. 99.99% of the viewers won't even notice.

B-LoVeD AssAsSiN
Jun 26th, 2002, 01:45:56 PM
Ok, I think I have the one correct answer. George did goof. And he didn't. Pick your point of view.
Go to prequel-spoilers.com (yea the guy there seems like an a$$ but hey) and check out the Episode II script. That IS the real script before it got edited and it was up way before MAy 16. Anyways in that, Padmé falls out, and Anakin goes way more berserk than in the movie and tries to stop the ship and Obi Wan can't calm him down, and then Anakin and Obi Wan see a trooper helping Padmé up, and Annie starts to calm down. Then Padmé waves to them beckoning to go after Dooku to the hangar. She saw. But George forgot to show this to us in the final version.
Oh, and this is to the original poster-Did you get that from imdb because they had a goof section for EP2 and i saw it there.

JonathanLB
Jul 6th, 2002, 01:19:44 AM
He didn't work that hard on the movie to make a simple mistake like that. You know, Padme isn't a retard. She's really intelligent actually. There are many things she is able to sense (*ahem* "I think Dooku was behind it," yet the Jedi don't even see that, and "Look!" she sees the Republic clones before the Jedi see or sense them). Why, in light of her other obvious intuition, is it not ok for her to say something about the hangar? There is no other word for where space craft are stored. What is she supposed to say, "Take me to the space craft landing place thingie!" No.

People just love looking for mistakes where they don't exist. She knew where they were going anyway. Plus, just because nobody said hangar on screen never means anything. On screen, you can hardly believe that Anakin and Padme would fall in love, but you have to understand that a lot goes on off screen too. They cannot show EVERY little thing that happens. She knew they were following Dooku and I bet you guys can figure out why she knew he wasn't going into space on an open-air speeder! So where was he going? To his ship, obviously. Where is his ship located? Well probably a hangar of some sort, just a guess, because technically if you put a ship somewhere, it's called a hangar whether it is one or not. It is acting as a hangar.

This is just simple logic. :)

JMK
Jul 6th, 2002, 11:13:11 AM
I can see that line of defence, and partially agree with it, however, it could have been worded in a way that makes MUCH more sense so this debate doesn't even exist. Something like:
"We have to find Anakin and Obi Wan". Something to that extent. The way she says "We have to get to that hangar" implies that she knows precisely where that hangar is, which is simply not true.

Stanze
Jul 15th, 2002, 04:30:08 PM
Who cares Natalie's HOT!!!!!:D

JMK
Jul 15th, 2002, 05:36:43 PM
Amen Stanze!:D