DOH! My life is so messed up lately...

[JonathanLB]

I just stole the patent from you today, CMJ...

:(

Ok, this is really embarrassing too, or I think it is, but I will just tell you guys anyway. This is going to complicate my war with Buff for AOTC viewings, but I have a few friends in the area, my sister, and my mom... So... I guess I'll maybe be ok. :x

That shouldn't be my first concern of course, but I guess it shows I'm a die-hard SW fan.

Today, on the way to that EVIL CHICK FLICK that I never should have even tried to see (damn being a critic), I got in a major car accident.

It was a one-car situation, though... I was going around this turn there, just after it rained, and I was probably going about 40 miles per hour before that, which is the speed limit on this road, however I know you cannot go 40 into the turn. So I began braking just into the turn, just before it started, and my back wheels began to shift, I think to the left, but they were skidding one way. I could not let the car simply correct itself because I had no road to work with, I would have went right into a ditch and maybe a tree going a solid 25 to 30 miles per hour, which is very bad. So I tried to correct the car, turned the wheel to the left, and the rest was the most horrible thing I have experienced so far while driving. My car, a Mitsubishi Montero (Consumer Reports named this the #1 most tippy car on the road), fell clean over onto the driver's side, then it apparently was moving still and I went entirely upside down, then it went onto the passenger side, then it finally landed back right-side up and in a ditch half way through the turn. So apparently it managed to roll and slide its way down there, but it happened so fast and I was only inside, I couldn't see what exactly happened, so I really don't know. That is just my perspective on the situation.

I obviously was wearing a seatbelt, which probably saved my life because I might have broken my neck or any number of other things had I had not that on. Everything from the back seat was in the front seat, including the mats, and most of the stuff from the front seat also found its way to the back or was all in weird positions. I just sat there for a few seconds, my first thought being, "Oh my god. I cannot believe I am absolutely uninjured. This is a miracle." I thought for sure I was just toast as the car began to tip. I didn't have any last second thoughts, though, besides, "Holy s**t this sucks..." Sorry, no final last thoughts like, "Star Wars Forever!" or "I love (whoever)!" lol. No time...

Then after sitting there for a second kind of totally making sure I am alright, I attempt to open the door, unsuccessfully, and another car comes by, and another, and they do not stop, but finally a guy who works for the postal service and had a day off stopped and he helped me a bit determine exactly where I was. I called 9-1-1 and they sent a fire truck and a squad car. They thought I was somehow trapped beneath the car or whatever, obviously bad communication on their part because I simply said that I couldn't get the damn door open. Anyhow, I felt bad for wasting their time and energy, but they were nice about it. They stayed for a second until the police car came. I thought I was really going to get drilled with questions and investigated then, but he just asked if I was ok and I showed him my insurance and registration and license information. He didn't write a report or a ticket or anything like that, so there is no record of this even happening besides the obvious fact the car has seen better days.

I was able to move the car out of the wrong lane and the ditch, before the fire and police cars came, and I put it at the start of a driveway. The police officer said I may as well just drive it home if it apparently works and I was close, so he escorted me back home and he walked me in, talked with my dad for a few minutes, and my dad was just concerned, not mad. He has never been big on this car anyway, he was very concerned about it, and the officer said he had a friend who was killed in the exact same type of car because of this type of accident, or I mean to say in the type where the car actually rolls over a time or two. At least the officer was nice, that was great, improves my opinion of police a lot. Actually I have always really liked police officers for the most part, but there are just a few who are on power trips. The rest are true heroes of everyday life, I think, and most are quite nice...

Anyway, the car is back here, and obviously I will not be driving it anywhere, maybe ever again. We will assess the damage, but it may not be worth filing for insurance purposes, if you know what I mean... It's not a very valuable car and we'll have to review its actual worth. It's not totalled I don't think, it would work just fine, I mean any car that drives is not totalled, right? The roof needs total replacement, it's horrible looking (I could take a few pictures but not now, this is just depressing), and the doors are all jammed spare the back driver's side door. Even the back door (the trunk area, if there was one) is jammed. My dad says we should just get a new car anyway because he really doesn't want me driving that type of vehicle anymore. It's simply too tippsy, too dangerous, and too poorly made. It is a strong car, though, it's very strong, so it didn't crush me or anything like that. At least the metal is durable and whatnot. I really had hoped I could make it through my life without a major accident, so just fender benders and stuff like that, but at 19 I already messed that up.

I think there are cases where it is not really a "blame" issue, but just an accident. I don't think it's fair calling it an "accident" when one car runs a red and NAILS another. That is no frickin' accident, it's dangerous, illegal driving that can get people killed. But in this case, where it is simply one car on an extremely wet road immediately after it has been nice for several days, there really is no blame to assign besides it being an unfortunate, well, accident. Should I have gone even slower into the turn? Obviously I should have, there is no doubt of that. I drive this every day, though, as you guys know because I go see AOTC like every day. So I've been down this road hundreds of times! I did nothing different from what I usually do, and I was driving carefully because of the rain. I remember thinking just a minute earlier, "I better be careful because this rain is really making it slick," and I could feel it too. Even before, I could see that obviously my car was not in as much control as usual with the rain, and I was trying to be extra careful! Apparently I was not careful enough though.

The sad thing is, I had a nightmare that this would happen a few days ago, just had that feeling that as bad as things have been going, it seems you can never say, "Well at least it can't get any worse." I guarantee if you say that, you're asking for it. I obviously got it. :(

Well, at least I am ok I guess. I know all of my friends will probably make fun of me or something, which is mean given that this was really serious, but oh well. Glad to be alive. lol.

[CMJ]

I'm terribly sorry Jonathan, but I'm very glad to hear you made it okay. :)

You were very lucky...flipping a car is incredibly dangerous. The Force was with you....

[JonathanLB]

I still just don't know what to think, man... Talk about ruining a day, a week, whatever...

I think if the Force were with me it would have kept me upright, and not almost killed me, lol, but oh well. I have no Force powers left now, I'm like Jar Jar Binks, only see when I mess up good things don't happen, bad ones do! haha.

[CMJ]

I've only been in one car acciident(knock on wood) when I was 17. It was a pretty harmless fender bender...I've had really good luck. :)

[JonathanLB]

That is nice. I was really hoping to avoid anything like this.

I mean this was seriously like something you see in the movies and say, "OUCH, oh man that's gotta hurt." Well... didn't actually. I am amazed that no glass shattered, my head remained entirely in place and never hit the side window or hit anything else, and nothing came flying in and hit me actually. Wow... Pretty fortunate I suppose.

[JMK]

It certainly was with you. Keep listening to your body though, I knew someone that had an accident, and thought she was fine, but a full week later wound up in the hospital with neck pains resulting from the accident. I guess now you know, NEVER touch your braked while attempting to turn in wet conditions. Living in the great white north with the snow and ice and water in the springtime, it's the first thing you learn. Glad to hear you're ok though.

Get any pics? ;)

[JonathanLB]

Ok... I'll get pics later. :(

[JMK]

I was just kidding, I could get pics of my firefly that my brother scrapped. Now THAT is a story you wouldn't believe.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

:eek Wow! Glad to hear you're doing okay! I think that I would have died from a heart attack, even if I was uninjured in the accident.

I knew that Ya Ya movie was of the devil. Now we know for sure. ;)

[JonathanLB]

That would have been so entirely perfectly fitting to my last 14 months of bad things happening: DYING from a CHICK FLICK. There couldn't be anything more pitiful than that. I can just see it...

"YA-YA SISTERS Opens Strong; one dies"

"A Portland moviegoer going to see the Ya-Ya Sisters died in a tragic car accident on a wet road. He reportedly hated the previews for the movie, did not want to see it, but felt compelled as an online movie critic to go ahead and see it anyway.

"He was the best starpilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior," a close friend said of 19-year-old Jonathan Bowen, who is survived by a couple of Star Wars posters on his wall."

[Lilaena De'Ville]

:( Depressing!

You know what is also depressing? I'm at work. Yuk!

[ReaperFett]

So you DIDNT see the film? Blessing in disguise :)





Glad to hear you're alright

[JonathanLB]

Thanks, Reaper, hehe. I did not see the movie, no, a bit later I suppose. :( Oh well, that movie does look like it sucks, and it really did help to cause this, lol. The ironic part is just 30 minutes later when I was driving the car back home with a police escort, the roads were mostly dry and the sun was shining quite nicely. So if I had just waited until tonight maybe to see AOTC and not see Ya-Ya Stupidhood, I would have been fine.

GRRRR...

[ReaperFett]

I bet Lucas himself caused it. How dare you see another film ;)

[JMK]

LD, you're at work?? On a saturday? How'd you end up with that raw deal? Just lock up and get out. And if you're boss gives you grief about it, tell him or her that a swforums.net mod said you could.
(Then when he/she comes calling, I'll merely point the finger at CMJ, Reaper or JMC ;))

[JonathanLB]

Nice, good idea.

Yeah working on a Saturday, I'm sorry, that kinda blows :(

I'd rather have been working than have my day, though, personally. Hehe.

I asked Shannon (an old high school classmate I talk to online sometimes) if she had done anything exciting lately and she said, "Nope, not really. What about you?" I said, "Well, not intentionally! lol"

[ReaperFett]

You can blame me, the boss is miles away from me:)

[JMK]

Done. It's your fault now.;)

[Jedieb]

I thought that movie would end up being the death of me. I never thought it would come after Jon!

Glad to hear you're okay Jon. Remember, never underestimate wet roads or ice. You never know when they can sneak up on you.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

:lol

And here I am, sneaking online! Tsk tsk on me!

I can't lock up early unless we're snowed in (only rain, no snow :p) or the power has been out for like three hours.

*cuts the power to the store* :mischief Oops, did *I* do that?

*sigh*

[ReaperFett]

you need a big EMP device like in Ocean's Eleven :)

[dbn]

Glad to hear you are safe Jon!

I know the feeling of being in a bad accident, and I know they are not good to be in:(. The best thing to do is get back in a car, and start driving again. I foresee you will be driving again soon, and becoming the greatest of all drivers;).

Hell--what a few friends and I do with cars we were in bad accidents with is to have a crashing derbies--just to have one last fun moment with our cars:p

Having a moose head inside the car cab, and a crushed front hood is not a pretty sight to see or be in.

[ReaperFett]

Having a moose head inside the car cab, and a crushed front hood is not a pretty sight to see or be in.

Sounds like the Godfather:)


I take it you hit it, yeah?

[JonathanLB]

Nice DBN, lol, that is pretty hilarious though you have to admit. Crash derby. I wonder if maybe we could use this car in a movie. It's really too bad that wasn't "caught on camera," that way I could use it for some high speed chase scene. DOH! I'm not doing that again just to get it on tape, for the record. :D

Jedieb, yeah I remember you saying that about how you thought it would be the death of you, haha, well it nearly was me!!! Dang dude, that movie is just pure evil! It's good advice about wet or icy roads. I definitely underestimated the power of the wetness, hehe. I should have gone even slower than that, seeing as it just rained and all, I was going 10 over what I should have, but more than that, I did try to slow down before the curve even, I was just too late. I should have been going 30 into the turn, not 40 and then tried to slow to 30 more quickly. I am used to optimal conditions I guess, even though I think I've driven when it has been raining MANY times and had no problems. Most disturbing this puzzle is. Only a Jedi could have tilted that car, but who and why, more difficult to answer.

[Jinn Fizz]

My word...glad everything turned out okay, Jonathan.

I've had my share of close calls throughout the years...the worst one was when a bunch of us from CCnet were in San Francisco on Halloween weekend a couple of years ago. It rained that day, and we were finally heading home after a very weird day at Fisherman's Wharf. I followed our intrepid local tour guide, SWFan, up a very steep hill. Very steep. The hill was so steep that there were signs posted that nobody should stop for anything, they should just keep going. Well, one numnut driver stopped at Lombard Street to let somebody make a left hand turn. The numnut was able to keep going, but SWFan left quite a few layers of his tires on the road before he was able to keep going. I wasn't so lucky...it was wet, I was on top of streetcar tracks, and I couldn't get any traction. All I could do was slide backwards. I screamed at my passengers to get out, and I was still sliding backwards. They tried to push me forward, with no luck. Still sliding backwards, and I knocked into an SUV, but my guardian angel was smiling over me because there was absolutely no damage because of the way I hit it. Finally I was able to get the car turned around, and I went back down the hill and pulled into the first parking spot I could find. When I got out of the car, I almost fell over, I was shaking so bad.

Last year came my first "real" accident, again on a CCnet trip in San Diego. Got side-swiped in the driver's side door by a driver who was chatting with his passengers and not watching where he was going when he tried to make a left-hand turn into the same lane I was driving in. Ugh. But no one was hurt, the other driver immediately admitted fault, and his insurance company paid for the repairs.

All in all, though, car accidents really do suck. :(

[BUFFJEDI]

Dude, That SOOOO SUCKS!!! But very glad you are Ok.And tha everyone else is ok (If I read right). But look on the bright side :) your dad/mom can get you another :) and if they don't they can loan you the Austin :)

[JMK]

:lol I was going to say that Buff!

[Jedi Master Carr]

Wow, that is some story, I am glad you are okay, for a second there maybe I thought you were imitating Lucas :)

I am lucky to say I have never been in a wreck (knock on wood) I came close once, I was up at Clemson and I had to work and it snowed and when I came home it was late maybe 8 and to my apartment it was a good 15-20 minute drive but the road was full of ice and snow and I put in second gear and drove under 10 miles an hour, but stupidly I touched the break once and I almost went off the road from there on I never touched my break and I was thankful that I didn't get into a wreck.

[BUFFJEDI]

I was going to say that Buff!

great minds think alike JMK ;)

[BUFFJEDI]

Master Carr, Clemson University ?? One of my stomping grounds ??Ahh that place brings back Memories :):):):)

[Quadinaros]

Jon, I am most grateful that you are not injured. I was in a bad accident last August(Some fool ran a red light and nailed me). I received a permanent injury to my elbow which, after surgery, only has about 75% flexibility. When I went into surgery, March 27, my Doc told me to think of something to live for. I thought 'I have to see Ep. II and III before I kick the bucket.' The surgery was a success!!

I'm just glad you're uninjured, Jon. It sucks to have to give up any part of your body's function.

And by the way, stay away from that chick flick. Somebody's trying to tell you something. :lol

[BUFFJEDI]

It goes to prove ,Women will ruin your life.Wait...did I just say that O_o

[BUFFJEDI]

I thought 'I have to see Ep. II and III before I kick the bucket.' The surgery was a success!!

Quad, You ROCK!!

[Quadinaros]

Originally posted by Ravishing Jedi
It goes to prove ,Women will ruin your life.Wait...did I just say that O_o

Oh, God! Don't get me started on that. That's a story for a different day! :evil

[JonathanLB]

Right now, Episode III is like the main reason to live, as sad as that is! :) lol. :(

Jinn Fizz, that is quite a story! Wow.... That would really scare me, going down a hill like that, yikes. I don't like the idea of even attempting to drive that one. It is a good thing that situation didn't end up worse, much like mine, hehe. The Force is protecting us.

It is definitely good I was not injured because that could have been FAR worse, definitely death was a possibility with any situation where you are entirely out of control of your vehicle and it does flips on you. I could not believe I was unscathed when I was sitting there in the ditch. I just paused for a few seconds, maybe even a minute, and kind of felt around, didn't feel anything, haha, and I sort of sighed in relief, lol.

[BUFFJEDI]

by Quad:
Oh, God! Don't get me started on that. That's a story for a different day! (would't let me quote ??:( )





:lol :lol

[BUFFJEDI]

Jon,the man UPSTAIRS ,has a plan for you :)

[JMK]

I remember going to see Ocean's Eleven in December and we were in the midst of a snow storm, and I had some awful, old all season tires on my car, and my windshield was steaming up, and I couldn't see jack, and I was heading down a huge steep hill with an oncoming car's headlights completely ruining what was left of my vision. Anyway, I faded over to the right, overcompensated back to the left, spun out down the hill, crossed the oncoming lane and crossed the road about a half second ahead of the oncoming car. I found myself in about 8 inches of snow, in a ditch and pointed the wrong way. I thought I would need a tow for sure, which would have sucked because my entire gf's family was waiting for me. Luckily, I just put my car in reverse and I pulled right out of the snowy embankment. That's about as close as I've ever gotten to having a real accident.

[Lady Vader]

OMG Jonathan! I'm sorry bout the whole accident, but by golly, I'm glad you're alright!

Jeebus! What a day for you that musta been! Just glad you're alive and kickin! :)

[JonathanLB]

Haha, narrowly avoided there, very nice.

Snow is very forgiving sometimes. Had it been really snowy, my front would at least look better, same cannot be said of the top of the car, though, it'd have been really messed up still.

Haha, Buff, Quadinaros, nice commentary ;) LOL

[Quadinaros]

Seriously, Jon. I know you're a critic. But you should really skip this one. You've already made it clear that you probably won't like it, so why bother? Dislike leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering...

My proposal is that whatever time you were planning to see YaYa again, make it up with a viewing of AOTC. Even if you see AOTC twice in one night. Who knows? It could be the difference in your derby with Ravishing Jedi... :smokin

Trust me. Do or do not. There is no Ya-Ya. :D

[JonathanLB]

Thanks, LV. Yeah I am glad I am ok too. Including two situations of alcohol poisoning, that is three fairly near death experiences in the last 9 months. I figure I'll be lucky to see my 21st birthday at this rate, so I may as well enjoy myself while I can. LOL, j/k :)

I do not think I'll have any more alcohol problems, I'm not that dumb anymore. :) The car accident thing, well you just never know. I am still amazed I am totally uninjured. I feel absolutely fine now, I went out and played some basketball even, it was nice... lol.

Oh well, I am glad I am ok... I just hope my luck improves over the next few months because this is really becoming a little too bad for me. At first it was just mental anguish and setbacks, but then it became physical with my first drinking incident and of course the second one and now this, haha, so I'd just like to keep my health and that'd be a moral victory at least. ;)

[JonathanLB]

LOL, nice, yeah really. Well I should still see this movie, to make sure I have seen it all, but I am not going to drive.

I think I'll remain mostly on course with AOTC viewings, but I'll be 2 behind at least, maybe 3 behind schedule going into my trip to Hawaii. Too bad... :(

[imported_QuiGonJ]

Glad you had your seatbelt on... my brother wasn't so lucky... a year ago this month, my brother's family was using her sister's car and a tire blew out. A pure accident, like yours.

The seatbelt had been broken by her sister's kids. Everyone else's seatbelts were fine, and they weren't hurt, just shaken up... but on the first roll the door came off, the second roll my brother was ejected, flew about 70 feet, and landed on his head. That he survived such an impact was a miracle.

The fact the car had slid past him before it rolled over one last time was the second miracle. As it was, he spent six weeks in the hospital, and has lost most of the vision in his left eye and still has balance problems cause of that.

Moral of the story is, if the seatbelt is broken, find other transportation.

But yes, I am glad you're okay, and yep, I think you can wait for video on the Ya-Ya Sisterhood. :)

[JonathanLB]

Now that is a really scary accident! How horrible. I am sorry about that, QuiGonJ. Yeah seatbelts are seriously super important. My parents would never drive unless we (the kids) put on our seatbelts, so it is always just a habbit. I mean, the idea of not wearing my seatbelt is like not putting the toilet seat up when I go to the bathroom. Lol, it just doesn't happen because I don't think, "Gee I will put my seatbelt on," I just always do it without thinking.

In this case, though, things could have been a lot more serious without the seatbelt, no doubt.

I am going to put a note on the bottom of my review for that film: "Yours truly just about died to bring you a review of this movie," then explain, haha. ;)

Man what if my mom got into an accident when her and I go to see that movie?! Haha, that would be so bad, even if it was a fender bender, I would just tell her to go home and we'd just forget about the whole movie, lol.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yeah that is true, most people who die in car crashes are because they don't wear seatbelts. I great example is the late great Derrick Thomas (one of the best LB I have ever seen) I remember how he went off the road and he wasn't wearing seatbelt at first he was paralized but he died a week later because of complications. In that wreck one person wore his seatbelt while the other two did not and he survived, I think that shows how important seat belts are.

[Jedieb]

So this is now the accident thread...

When I was 17 I ran a red light and got hit. I was totally distracted and just ran the damn thing. It may have been yellow and I looked away, I can't even remember anymore. (It has been 15 years.) Luckily no one was hurt. All of the other accidents I've been involved in were not my fault. I was rear ended once by someone on the way to a job interview in the summer of 90. But the worst accident I was ever in didn't even involve another car. I was making a left at a busy intersection. I had the green arrow, but I was well behind the traffic that had stopped at the light because I had just gotten off the freeway. Anyway, some guy on a BICYCLE thought there wasn't anymore traffic and he plowed right into my pickup. He slammed right into the side of my car, bounced off my wind shield. His head hit the windshield so hard there were bits of blood and hair stuck in the cracked glass. He had to be taken away in an ambulance. I was really shaken up. The accident was not my fault, I wasn't given a ticket, but I almost killed the guy.

I barely managed to drive back to the fraternity house. Once I was there I started drinking. The worst part was I was suppose to drive home that night to my parents house to spend a week at home between the semester break. My girlfriend (who's now Mrs. Jedieb) came over and drove me home to Miami. I was in no shape to drive. Luckily for me I worked with some great lawyers in my JAG detachment and they gave me some good advice. The guy actually tried to pursue legal action against me 4 years after the accident! But his case was so weak that nothing ever came of it.

Anyway, I haven't had an accident or a ticket in over a decade. But it's just a matter of luck really. You never know when a slick road or a drunk driver is going to get you. My brother-in-law's mother was killed last year in a car wreck when some guy crossed lanes. 2 years ago some maniac in a Corvette tried to pass me and everyone in site in the middle of an intersection. He hit the dirt, spun out right in front of me, crossed the median, and then slammed head on into oncoming minivan. I had my son in the back seat and my pregnant wife in the car. That idiot could have killed us all.

Just remember, whenever you drive on a weekend, or late at night, ASSUME that everyone around you is drunk. You can never be too carefull.

[BUFFJEDI]

When I was 17 I ran a red light and got hit. I was totally distracted and just ran the damn thing

Uh , excuse me , They had Cars back then ?:lol :lol

[JonathanLB]

LOL, nice Buff. *high fives* lol.

Actually, you saw The Flintstones right? Well yeah, sort of the same concept. It just took a little more effort to move the car, i.e. peddling with your legs. haha.

[Jedieb]

Uh , excuse me , They had Cars back then ?
No, I was in a horse and buggy and was distracted bacause I was serenading some ladies with the latest ragtime tune. OF COURSE IT WAS A CAR YOU MUSCLE BOUND OAF!!
(Jedieb rips off his shirt and transforms into an angry muscle bound maniac with a Scottish accent. Confirming the long held belief that he was the inspiration for Groundskeeper Willie.)

It's GO TIME buff!>D

[CMJ]

LMAO!

I got 5 bucks on the old man. ;)

[JonathanLB]

Nice, I want to see this matchup! LOL

That was so funny though.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Accidents?

Oh, had a few. The biggest one I ever had was I was driving along and a police car came out of a give way sign. I had no chance to avoid. The car I was in slammed in to the side, went OVER the police cars bonnet and came to rest 50 meters away after I managed to stop it. I was so furious at such an idiot act ( and picture this, I was coing home from amrtial aArts and I was in full uniform) I got out of the car, ready to kill. The cop, who was out of his car now, took one look at this furious karate master coming at him, he went for his gun!!!

Actually, they simmered me down, cuasse it was 100% their fault and we had a laugh not long after. Got paid out cause the car was totalled. And so, I claimed one police car :)

I,ve hit trees in a forest (not bad), slid off the road and ended up in a creek, hit a tire wall in a race and snapped the front chassis rail. My brother has smashed into trees and ended up 4 foot in the air as a result, rolled and recently shortened the race car by 1.5 foot, going backwards into trees.


I'm glad your okay Jon. 4wd's like that are not good things to have accidents in and when i saw the pics and heard you were okay, worked out you wear seatbelts. Good lad. Hope your not feeling too bad or embarrassed.

[Jedieb]

Good grief Marcus you're a MENACE!!!
BTW, what in the Wide World of Sports are the following?;
"a give way sign"
"police cars bonnet"
You have to excuse us ignorant Americans.:p

[Marcus Telcontar]

Give way sign - you must give way to all traffic, otherwise you may continie

Bonnet - the thing the motor is under :P - is it the Hood in the USA?

And I will state that the acciednt listed apart from the Police Car are on the race track or forest in a rally. Unfortunantly in thise things, accidents are just a fact of racing and its not if but when

[Jedieb]

Yeah it's the hood. I thought for sure you were talking about the siren. That's a new one, the bonnet. I've got to throw that in conversation one day. That'll impress... nobody. Damn, I've got to move away from here.

[JonathanLB]

Oh man, those are some interesting stories Marcus! I love the police car one though, that's damn awesome.

Yeah it was definitely very fortunate I was wearing a seat belt, otherwise who knows if I would be talking to you guys now. I mean there is the possibility I'd have been fine because gravity may have held me in place anyway (I do not know really), but I'm very glad I had that seatbelt.

Yeah it is kind of embarrassing about the car and all, but I guess I am sort of getting over it. If anything, it has just made me appreciate being alive still, haha. Although it does continue this lovely streak I've had over the last 14 months of bad things happening.

As long as I survive it, ok fine, but that was a close call. :)

[Marcus Telcontar]

Well, at let you got to meet Holly. That must have been okay :)

[JonathanLB]

Oh yeah, that was more than ok :) That was very cool. She is awesome. ;)

[Marcus Telcontar]

Now you tell me - does she look anything like Carrie Ann Moss?

[JonathanLB]

I suppose so, a little bit, but she is cuter than Carrie Anne Moss. To me, Moss has somewhat of a badass look, like the type of girl I would not want to cross, haha, but Holly is more innocent looking or something ;)

I dunno, that's just my take on it.