A question for the council

[Darth Roul]

I have a personal fleet that I am now updating. I would like to have it placed in the grand fleet of TSO. Coments please

OOC:if this is done I have a couple of things.
1.it is seperate from all other fleets and is not merged
2.I have a character that i would like to be in charge of it.

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

I'm not sure if the current fleet rules will allow this.

[Darth Viscera]

<a href=http://members.home.net/wlabiche/gma/rules.html>Ship Rules</a>, if anyone wants to check them at any time.

[Darth Roul]

It says nothing about it

[Lady Vader]

well, this idea would be advantagous to making the fleets bigger without breaking the "down-sizing" rule...

[Darth Viscera]

See, the problem with building a personal fleet is that individuals are not allowed to have any shipyards. If you can order ships at customer shipyards (every group is allowed to have one, btw), and you have the moola to pay for them, then I don't see it as a problem, BUT:


It is illegal to use these customer shipyards for the military gain of your group.

LV's comment is a perfect example of what not to do. Say you order a ship from an Imperial customer shipyard. You then cannot use that ship to aid the Empire militarily, otherwise you might as well just call that a regular shipyard. The Dark Axis has 9 Shipyards (2 of which are customer) total. It does not have to resort to sneaketry and jerkoffitude to build a bigass fleet. If you order a ship from a Dark Axis customer shipyard, you cannot then use that ship to aid the Dark Axis militarily.

[Admiral Roebuck]

The Dark Axis has 9 shipyards

Does it??

I take it you mean with refernece to the respective groups in the DA, however that is only TSO and TSE to my knowledge, whats with the 9 shipyards?

[Live Wire]

yeah I think I had asked about this sometime before as a way to get around downsizing.



but I have a question....what if someone orders ships from your shipyards and later on say their group or wahtever becomes an ally of your group! They should be able to use their ships to aid you even if they did come from your shipyard

[Darth Viscera]

TSE has 4 shipyards, plus 1 Customer shipyard.
TSO has 3 shipyards, plus 1 Customer shipyard.

Total-9 shipyards.

LW-Yes, that's alright, but only if they don't have an alliance with you at the time that they order the ship, and they have no intention of seeking an alliance. If they end up getting an alliance with you anyways, and it's just a coincidence, then they can use the ships to aid you. If it's not a coincidence, then someone will eventually figure out what's going on, and bring it up in the OOC forum.

[Darth Roul]

I built these ships with TSC when I didn't even plan on using them for TSO. Also the other ships that are being built were started by TSF

[Darth Viscera]

then they need to be downsized, and TSF can't build any ships, can't even own shipyards, unless it has enough members.

[Darth Roul]

we had four

Me-Graem-Raen(sp?)-Mathius(sp?)

They all coinside with downsizing because well they arn't done yet
not until the end of June

[Xarkz Chaos]

I think five is the amount of members needed to be considered a faction and allowed shipyards, however.

[Lady DeVille]

Sneaketry and jerkoffitude? Heh. New words are fun. :lol:

[Darth Viscera]

Actually, 4 is the number, and yes, LD, they are :)

[Garrett Blade]

Could I please ask a question on behalf of my friends at The Coalition?

Does a group need to own a planet to have shipyards/construction yards/droidworks? This is because I find it impractical for a crime syndicate to own planets when starting out, or even at all for that matter (maybe one of two). Is it okay for them to mine from asteroid belts and have shipyards nearby, and spacestations with construction yards and droidworks onboard? As for ground bases, moons would be most likely.

[Darth Viscera]

Yes. It needs to own a planet, so the shipyards can orbit something.

[Darth Roul]

They could orbit a large moon though

[Darth Viscera]

Sure. moon or planet, doesn't matter which.

[Garrett Blade]

Okay, thanks. I still think its silly that it NEEDS to orbit something - but a moon is do-able

[Lord Psychic]

What about an asteroid or star?

[Seth Darkserpent]

Asteroid- I am 95% sure it's possible.

Star- I don't think that would ever be possible.

[Xarkz Chaos]

In one of the books, Lando had that mining operation that was very close to a star, he had to use shieldships to get other ships in/out.

[Sanis Prent]

Seeing as everything in the solar system orbits the sun...I'd say that it would be easy enough to have a shipyard orbit a star.