The [TG] order - RANT TIME

[Darth Turbogeek]

Almost no one deserves that here

Although [CF] would be appropriate for some people. CF = Crap Flooding.

I dont read half of this mess here anymore. There's just no point.

[Sanis Prent]

(blows dust off [TG] badge)

Hell yeah!

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

Hmmm...Sad but true!! I mostly pay attention to RP threads and a few OOC threads!!

[TG] Now there is a title DT has not bestowed on anyone in a very long, long time!!

[Nash Stolar]

[TG]? what might that be?

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

::Knows what it means but thinks DT will explain..If he choses too::

;)

Edit: Typos

[Sanis Prent]

Nash...thats a question you might not want to ask <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

[Darth Turbogeek]

Turbogeeks a re posters that deplore and defend forums against...

Trolls
Flamers
Idiots
Crapflooders.

A Turbogeek is a thing of honour as can be seen by the people who DO have the honour.

In fact now I think of if...

Nupraptor!
Fewdman!

I now bestow upon you both, for your dedication to good posts, or badge of Turbogeek. You now have the right to wear the [TG] badge in your sig.

No go, defend the forums from trolls and crapflooders and all others you go to and MTFBYW!!

[Sanis Prent]

(loads shell gun) :evil:

[Nash Stolar]

:| then I wont ask...again

[Morgan Evanar]

i r speshul now?

[Nupraptor]

:: attempts to figure out where in his sig to put it :: :|

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

:: pouts ::

I'm NOT one!! Damn..and Sanis is!!

::stomps her feet::

Heehee..just kidding Sanis!! ;)

[Darth Turbogeek]

Your... NOT a Turbogeek?!?!

Jedi Knight Leia Solo!!

You are hereby awarded the [TG] badge and have the right to wear it in your sig! Now go, defend the forums and all others you post at and MTFBWY!!

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

Nope..believe it or not I was not!!

::Bows her head out of respect::

You got it Chief!! I will do that!! :)

And thank you!! MTFBWY too...Master TG!! ;) :)

Hmm..now to fix her sig;)

[Ogre Mal Pannis]

Down with crapflooders and trolls and all that stuff!!!!

errrrrr wait, I'm half troll, does that mean I'm out too? O_o

Nah, the majority of my posts here and under aliases have all been of quality. :)

[Hart3584]

Haha. I beat you three to it :)

www.coruscantcity.net/Cor...04184.html (http://www.coruscantcity.net/CoruscantCity/board/Forum1/HTML/004184.html)

[Sage Hazzard]

I can help anyone out with the sig altering, if you need it. Perhaps because the signature wasn't made by you and the one who did make it is absent, or similar. :)

[Navaria Tarkin]

Poor Ogies :(

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

:p ::Sticks tongue at Hart::

Heehee..long time no see!!

Thanks Sage..I am going to try and do it.

Hmm....Dale and Ogre at technically [TG] too. I mean they are total quality posters!!;) And don't like spammers

[Navaria Tarkin]

<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o">

Leia your embarrassing me!! :lol:

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

(removes old and grandiose [TG] saber)

Dalethria and Ogre, I, as one of the original [TG] elders, do knight thee with the seal of [TG], and bestow upon you the honor of forum defenders.

[Ogre Mal Pannis]

:D

Swings his axe menacingly and proud.

I may be half troll in breed, but I'm no board troll. :)

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

Unclips Shenlong's Fang and ignites it, "An honor to be seen as a defender from evil spammers and try to do good work." :)

[Force Master Hunter]

oooh.... one more to give a [TG] to...

Lady Deville, step forward!!!

Grant you the right to be Turbogeek I do. Wear this badge [TG] with pride, you have the right to wear it in your sig. No go, defend the forums and MTFBWY!!

[Lady DeVille]

*steps forward and stetches a curtsey* Thank you, I will only do my best. :)

Wow, two mintues ago I didn't know this [TG] group existed, and now I'm a member! I'd say, isn't America great, but that doesn't really apply, now does it.

Isn't Australia great?

[Sage Hazzard]

I'd like to ask a few questions if I may. I'm sure many of these questions are on the minds of many readers of this post.

1)When and why was the [TG] Order established?
2)What is the [TG] Order's duty?
3)What is spam? I have heard many meanings, what is your's DT?
4)What EXACTLY is trolling?

Thanks for answering my questions, if you take the time to do so. It might sound like many of these questions, if not all of them, have obvious answers. But not to myself.

[ReaperFett]

Trolls are argument starters. Not accidents, but delibaerately do so. When people used to start topic insulting Itala, that was trolling.


And this place is dead, I hardly think we can afford to try to cut it down:) . The biggest problem is more that noone says anything FUNNY

btw, is there a TG list anywhere?

[Lady DeVille]

I agree with DT and Fett...no one says anything funny, or even worth reading. :) Well, it happens occasionally. But occasionally good threads a ruined by [CF] members. :/

[ReaperFett]

not just them. NOONE is doing anyting hugely funny, or ANYTHING. Look down. How many threads are from the last 24 hours? Not many at all. 27 to be precise. a third of them have less than 10 posts, and just die. Then you have a few big threads, and thats it. Also, of them, 3 are mine, 2 are DTs and 3 are FMHs. So, a third of all the recent topics are by three names. That doesnt indicate spamming for me, when nothings happening round here.

The biggest problems I see round here are all the Leeloo wannabes round here(Note how since she appeared, everyone is crazy, but werent then? Strange that), and the fact noone goes into a decent OOC discussion. I once did a simple one, whats your favourite movie. Four replies. Now, surely that could have made for a decent convo? Nope, noone bothered to just type five or six words to make a convo go. Things like that bug me

[Force Master Hunter]

Precisely put Leeloo is not a spammer. A spammer is defined as a person who UBE's or UBP - (Unsoliciated Bulk Email or Unsoliciated Bulk Posting), for advertising purposes and more often than not offtopic.

What she is and the wannabes is what is defined as CrapFlooding - building up a noise to signal ratio that makes finding anything worthwhile difficult. Crapflooding can be simply anything, usually offtopic and usually repeditive, boring, annoying or cheep posting that has the effect of driving good people away and leaving the frum victim for more crapflood attacks. It's a basic DOS (Denial Of Service) attack.

The reason why there seems to be less good stuff is that good people are sick of the crapflooders and are simply not bothering. I certainly would be posting here if there was more worthwhie and I am always got an eye on this place. And I try to do things too.

Simply put, we should deal with CrapFlooders ina distinct way.

1) Call it for what it is. IT'S @#%$ AND WE ARE SICK OF THIS @#%$ BEING POSTED HERE! Crapflooding is NOT funny, is boring and it's going to stop

2) Deny them a favours or acknowledgements

3) Delete them as a registered user. That will reset their post count here to zero and wipe their CT.

4) Persist and it's banning time.

Why should we have to put up with crapflooding? WE want a decent forum and Yog's B&G is quite good at times. So lets call it as it is and deal with it for what it is.

[ReaperFett]

have to disagree there. They arent leaving because of the flooders. They are leaving everywhere. SWFans is dead, here, everywhere. The thing is, the people not round are the ones who makes topics that people read(IE- not mine), leaving a small number

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

Well...its hard at times to start a good thread. For example, I personally can't think of an IC one to start myself right now. I have one to continue w/Obi but with him being away currently its' kinda tough.

But...Fett...everyone has potential to do a good and yes..it can be fun RP thread IC in the B & G. Not these AIM like posts that become spamlike. Don't you agree? I think people should try it more often.

And..just in case you are thinking this...I am NOT saying there should be NO OCC posts. There are some quality ones too. Its just people should keep these AIM like OOC threads conversations on IM!!

[ReaperFett]

IM conversations? Itd be great if I got some like this:)

ANd besides, heres my gripe. Noone tries to change this. Noone starts an IC thread which should be fun. Instead, they just complain. Its all ok saying how someone should be, bt doesnt always work like that

[Selena Kyle]

Hmmmmmm.......Went to make a thread that her and Fett are Rping in now.

[Cirrsseeto Raurrssatta]

Well...I was rather pissed when I started the shore leave thread. Sure, it was irreverent and wild, and it was going to a good start in the beginning. But then a few people got in it and started up their own little un-related chatfest...and it absolutely torpedoed the thread. How am I supposed to respond to 25 anime vixens giggling at the wallpaper and Nash's sword or whatever they do?

[Hart3584]

If I remember the story correctly, Sage, I think the order started when DT, before that name was coined, was called a Turbogeek by a troll all those years ago. So as a comeback, he became Darth Turbogeek and started the Turbogeeks to battle those spammers and trolls. Is that right? Things are a bit hazy.

[Cirrsseeto Raurrssatta]

That is correct. The ancient troll's name was Cinematic, I believe :)

[Sir Lando Calrissian]

It's actually quite a compliment on his trolling ability when you see what he caused to accomplish. :)

[ReaperFett]

Cirr, its simple. You tell one of the many admins, who delete the posts, and warn the users

[Liam Jinn]

How much good has that done in the past Fett? We don't ban enough around here anymore..

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

I mean dear God, where do I start?

[Liam Jinn]

Well, I'd start at the person who does this stuff most often, I don't know who because I don't bother reading most of the threads here..<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

[Jyanis Scorpion]

Ironically, yesterday I was thinking about the [TG]. That's as honorable as they get.

[Darth Eve]

You guys, I see what you're all talking about. But here it's summer, and that may be why things are dying down a bit.

But you guys run the board and post the most, hell yeah you should be able to influence the kind of subject matter here. At my board, especially in the plaza, if someone posts crap I just don't respond or archive the damn thread - most of them get the hint.

I know also that alot of us gals have been trying to put our heads together to come up with something, but we're all at a loss. We don't want to just come up with ANYTHING, it's gotta be good. But we're trying.

Funny? Well that's a matter of perspective. You have you legends here, and you have your wannabees. They're easy to see and pick out. Period.

I am always up for a group chat on IM - maybe Fett's Assylum (although whenever I go in there, no one is there) so we can put our heads together and come up with something new and original.

[Hart3584]

Well, a good idea would be to put your minds to constructing a virtual world that is more deserved of its name. Instead of dedicating time to planning confrontations, instead try to build the society in peacetime. Develop organizations that serve a purpose and that hold a value. Then, if it is attacked or challenged for, then there is something that stands to be lost. The Jedi were more than just protectors and judges, they were people. A lot stands to be gained from creating, not destroying. As it is, we assume the basic structure of this rp already stands before we walked into it.

All I'm saying is that the Jedi, and the Sith and others for that matter, should consider more roles in this society.

I'm not saying it would make the rp better, just a suggestion on what to do if you're bored.

[ReaperFett]

YEAH HART! TESTIFY!:)

Best characters are made when idle

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

I am not posting as much for several reasons:

1. I work at least 9 hours a day, every day

2. Most of my characters rely on supporting characters who are not prone to showing up frequently. This makes doing any RP with them very cumbersome.

3. The other characters are in a rut, and I am not inspired.

[ReaperFett]

if it was just you, there would be a problem. The other 50% of the bar would post:)

[Force Master Hunter]

Well, my idea is to make the B&G a more "character building" RP area. Have it IC off planet so as to others can have a IC reason to be here, because IC no one knows where the Jedi's main base is and IC if you tried, you would now be vapourised. We say it's Yog's sideline business or something, or maybe a branch base.

I personally do have my problems with the general state of the RP galaxy, which is why I tended not to join in for a long while and in fact done some RP in here.

Roleplay isnt just about fighting. It's about playing your character. And that also can mean going to the bathroom as a RP. Seriously. Characters have issues, they have to deal with them.

[JediBeldarine]

::isn't around enough to spam::

Congrats all you new TGers !!! :)

I'm too lazy to read the whole thread, so I'll say congrats and leave it at that :)

[Hart3584]

*Thinks it may be time for another Jedi Council Thread. A casual one, yet one relatively serious compared to the others.*

[Darth Turbogeek]

Isnt that what Picture request has become?

[Virgil Titus]

the man speaks the truth, he does

[Aragorn The Huntsman]

Ok, here's why I stopped posting.

I hated RPing in a fight with someone, and all they did was take your idea.. and change it slightly.. or they ignored it.. or they bitched. Shut your mouth and RP.

I'd much rather RP in a character oriented thread, than a fight. I hate fighting, and you will rarely, if ever..see Bel or Card fight.

I was also dissallussioned when "Official Business" got deleted. I busted my butt for that one. And it was good too. :(

[Virgil Titus]

Aye, that is was lass. But people will whine. I long ago gave up on the concept of holding fights, I did.

[Darth Turbogeek]

i also detested the "Lets copy him" thing too. Dont some of these people realise the time and effort required to research some of the stuff I was eventually doing, roleplaying the discovery of powers, when someone just pulls the same thing out of their -DO-NOT-SWEAR--DO-NOT-SWEAR--DO-NOT-SWEAR--DO-NOT-SWEAR-? For me, my biggest power was Weather Control, something I would craft over four or five posts and it annoys me to see players just... doing it and absurdly powerful.

What's currently annoying me is that I spend a year on and off RP'ing a Sith Sword, with rather exotic powers. Researched, built, and I'll be finishing it up soon. A year or more. And yet I see some other players just using them as if it was commonplace. I mean, this is a truly powerful artifact and the last one built was 4000 years ago... as if there would be lots of them. There are virtually UNIQUE. Roleplay it out, dont pull it from the butt.

I liked my fight with Bel. It wa fun and made sense. I'ld fight more if I could do more like that.

[Virgil Titus]

We also had an interesting spar once, we did. Wish I could find that.

Also, when I first started roleplaying, I had my character carry a sword. His father was obsessed with antiquities, and I thought a sword would be unusual in the SW universe. But when I saw every other person starting to carry one as well... well, I stopped using it.

Edit for Clarification ~

I'm not complaining about other people using swords and bladed weapons in the SW Universe, I just wish that certain people would at least attempt to explain where they got theirs from.

[Hart3584]

Yes, but this is an ooc community thread. I'm talking about a fully ic, day-in-the-life sorta thing. For character developement in personality.

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

Aragon...Jen????!! Oops didn't know!!

::continues to listen in on the RPing comments:: :)

[Lady Vader]

*polishes [TG] badge*

I've never forgotten I have this and proudly display it in my sig! But it has been awhile since I've used it...

*practices flashing badge to evil-doers of the forums*

[Liam Jinn]

Well, All my character does now is fight basically. I've tried character building and what can anyone tell me about myself? Bah, what's the point of even putting forth the effort in typing if no one will bother to look at it? I'm going to be doing a serious RP soon, I hope, and I hope people will look at that without me force-feeding them the links. Eh, I am st least proud to say I don't clutter up the forums with useless garbage <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

[Lady DeVille]

They are leaving everywhere. SWFans is dead, here, everywhere.

I'll have to agree with you there, Fett, but it must be summer. I didn't go through June last year, because I joined in July. :) *hint hint*

And I like Leeloo! She's funny, so don't go banning her. Its those that copy her (badly) that are getting annoying. I really shouldn't say anything, because I don't post here often myself. But people should be respectful of other people's RPs. If you want to say HI, say HI on AIM or on your own board. There, I said it.

Maybe there should be a [CF] board. :lol: just kidding

Ooh there was something else I wanted to say. OH!

LL, if you want to revive some characters, I'm doing some RPs (told you about them) so go to my board...and check out my study. I'm giving you access. You can re-read my ideas, and let me know where and how and if you want in on it :) (use SN Sanis Prent, I couldn't remember how to spell any of your other ones)

[Jeseth Cloak]

To reply to your statements about people ripping one another off: I've found that anything that can be written will at some point be ripped off by somone, so I just don't care anymore. I RP as I like and if someone rips off something I do, I just don't bother with it. Most of the people who would try to rip me off likely aren't as active or as involved in things as I am, so their attenmpt would embarassingly fail. The same thing applies for anyone else: If you have a good idea and you're using it, then no one is going to contest your claim to it... but if you're letting a good idea rot away and not even playing with it, you really have no right to complain if it gets stolen and used.

[Darth Turbogeek]

I personally am beginning to work under ONE RP rule now and basically disgregarding every other rule.

It's what I call the FP rule.

It reads "I will RP with common sense and use Fair Play. If you do not do likewise your invited to f*** off"

Said in my usual ultra blunt and direct manner. :) Insert your own wording if you like

Simple aint it? I personally hve never stopped anyone RP'ing the way the want and certainly wont be in the future, but bluntly that's the only rule I beieve that's needed and it's the one I'm working with, whatever I do. I mean, you dont NEED any rules if you do that. It's just stating what I'm doing and is my opinion only and how I am doing things.

Yes, even with fleets. What else is needed?

[Hart3584]

Rules are a waste of time. No one remembers all of them when they post and anyone can interpret them in any way they want.

I personally think there should be an honor code. Most people will think that won't work because there's no strict enforcement, but I think you'll be surprised at how efficient an honor code would be.

[Hart3584]

and another thing. This has been discussed many times and each time it has be defeated to my dismay, but I'll forever believe in making a separate OOC forum. The alternative to that? What we have now.

That way, there is no argument with what does belong in this forum, and what doesn't.

[Force Master Hunter]

Point an OOC forum to the OOC one at SWFans maybe.

[Hart3584]

But then what occurs is constant spamming in that forum and the problem arises over again. Well, that particular forum I don't think we should mess with. How about the General Forum of SWfans.net?

[Force Master Hunter]

I also remember CC.NET - it had NO rules apart from the posting guidelines (ie swearing, nudity, sexual content) and only that was there to stop fools who kept up with that type of nonsense.

But people have to WANT to use fair play. It cant be forced. Like Hart tho, I have seen the honour system work really, really well and it was brilliant. Still would be at cc.net IF there was viable roleplaying there anymore.

[ReaperFett]

why is it when I give an idea for a character enhancig new forum, people disagree, bu agree with one that could possibly kill this board?:)

[Hart3584]

This board is already killed. It's the reason why I no longer use "Hart Kenobi."

There shouldn't be forums specifically used to character enhancement. That all can be achieved if assimilated into the roleplaying forums such as the Academy, LQ, shipyards, and B&G. Each of those areas are just that--- areas. You can build weapons in the academy or LQ, and you can fine-tune your ship in the shipyards. No additional forums are needed for character developement, the problem is that very few are using the already existing ones in a mature way.

[ReaperFett]

screw the mature part. Most of the people who will readily complain about the problems arent either. But silly me, they always have an excuse, dont they?

[Hart3584]

The point still stands as: why do we need more rp forums when the ones we already have aren't being used for rping as it is?

Everyone strays from acceptable rp once and a while, which is why there should be an ooc forum. And naturally, I will use that forum as much as the next guy for my own immaturity.

[Saarrreeaa Meorrrei]

Yes, I am Aragorn, Leia. :)

I agree with DT on one thing. I am molding Bel into a master of Weather Control.. It fascinates me for some odd reason. And I take my time, researching the atmospheric conditions for .. say... a TORNADO. I get everything down pat. The way warm air fronts rises, etc. The certain TYPE of tornado it is meant to be.. etc etc...

And the person I'm fighting simply turns it around on me.

That nearly drove me through the roof.. and ALMOST made me stop RPing. Instead I only will do character improvements now.

I'll fight someone I trust. I loved fighting with DT, that was fun. I'll fight with Vega, Leia, Nup.. anyone who I think is a good RPer. I'm done fighting with morons.

I do agree on the fair play and common sense ideology. But the unfortunate part of that is... Rules are needed because I'll say, 80% of the RPers here lack common sense or any thought of fair play. Personally, I don't see why you can't break someone's rib if you kick them in the chest. Normally, when someone gets kicked powerfully in the chest, a rib will break. Or, if you break someone's arm. You weild the force. Stop relying on your bloody saber so much.

But people whine and bitch and complain. "You can't break my ribs... it's against the rules" Ah well, then I'll edit, you schmuck. But if you think that a few ribs wouldn't break if Beldarine kicked your punk a$$ in the ribs, then you're sorely mistaken.

But, we all gotta abide by the rules. Irritating as they may be.... they're put in place because of the people who ARE schmucks. It's like I tell people at my job. You need a real, major credit card to rent a car. Why? Because it's security if you ever decide to not return it. We have access to a lot of personal info that way to hunt you down. I'm not saying that many people do that, but enough do to warrant it. The rules are in place to put strictures on the a$$holes that RP -- even though they do restrict the good RPers out there.

Just something we gotta live with :)

[ReaperFett]

I'm done fighting with morons
damn!:)

[Morgan Evanar]

Hart, no one has bothered to say it, but buddy, you have been greatly missed.

[Hart3584]

Thanks man, I appreciate it :) It's great seeing you. I hear you're a Sith now. Pretty cool :)

[Leeloo Mina]

I haven't been posting IC or OOC for a few reasons:
It's summer and I feel lazy and stuff.. And I've been losing interest in RPing..well, just posting in general. There are no good OOC threads to post in and I've lost any inspiration had before...and it's not like it really matters that I'm here or not because I never have really DONE anything..And I've been having some RL probs..but I'm mostly over those.. Then there's all these werid anime socks running around..Makes every post suck >=[ I've thought about just totally starting over with a new char and killing Leeloo off.. might make things a bit easier but I'm not sure if I could play another char or not *shrugs*

Heh and It's nice to know that I'm not a CF :lol:

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

And here I thought all those anime socks were you, Leeloo :p

Oh, and if you really wanna kill your character off....let me know. Kinda hungry...nummies! :evil:

[Leeloo Mina]

I think Fett thought they were me too.:p

Anyway.. :lol: Jes has been bugging me to let him kill her for a while :p

[Nupraptor]

I'll fight with Vega, Leia, NupI'll take you up on that sometime, although you may regret it. Nupraptor hates fighting, but he's quite a tough cookie.
Stop relying on your bloody saber so muchActually, for the longest time, I had Nup practice sabre fighting non-stop. I thought it fit his character to be a sort of master swordsman who wielded his lightsabre like an extension of himself. Unfortunately, no one seemed interested in getting into actual duels, preferring instead to come up with some new Force Move. Now, I no longer have him wield a lightsabre for idealogical reasons.
But if you think that a few ribs wouldn't break if Beldarine kicked your punk a$$ in the ribs, then you're sorely mistakenYes, but some of us tend to have ribs made of Durasteel. ;)

[Darth Rane]

I want her head to add to my collection. :evil:

[Leeloo Mina]

:rolleyes:

It's not worth your time :p

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

You can have her head. I want the more edible parts

[Morgan Evanar]

Gee... I feel o so peachy for being left off that list, Bel.

=\

Its ok. I'm sure it just slipped your mind. =]

Now fight me, ya woman beastie!

[Keerrourri Sarrtarroa]

Somebody want a fight? Just wait for Laenos Anbira :evil:

[Vice Hazzard]

OOC - I tend to like rules. I know many people can't Role Play worth a penny and I need something to set them in their place. I once fought a guy under another name and his post was as follows:

"I hit you 40 times in the chest with my hammer."

I don't need to explain how this is insane. Without rules to point to he could do this easily, although I wouldn't let it go un-noticed. But since we have no Godmoding rules I can simply offer a link to the rules, and no arguments are needed.

I hate fighting with Lightsabres. Many people don't know a lick about them. Lightsabres give off no heat other then the blade(another words, no "I hold it 'near' you neck and it burns you"), you don't bleed, and it is not a light source. I use a retractable staff as this character, and I find it much more interesting. I also regonise that my character couldn't possible use a Lightsabre well yet. He's been in a cave for half his life, living off the land. He didn't practice lightsabre dueling, so he'd end up cutting more of his body parts off than his opponent's.

[Force Master Hunter]

I would say that thing about hitting you 40 times in the chest witha hammer would be covered by the FP rule - ie Common sense and Fair Play. Common sense says you can dodge or be able to recover if you choose and fair play recognises that you would be highly dead if hit that many times.

I honestly dont thing anyhing else is needed.

[Lady DeVille]

This is what I do in a fight. Say my opponent says: I swing my saber at LD, and catch her in the side, cutting her deeply.

Then I post an avoidance: LD sees the saber coming in at her side, and frantically twists to block, getting a shallow cut on her side.

See? Thats only fair. And you wouldn't fight me, Bel? :(

[ReaperFett]

nah Leeloo, I knew it wasnt you, the IPs were a fair distance off. :)

Also, I wouldnt kill off Leeloo. Why not just have her fade out? Or where she leaves happy? Its better than have some Sith with an inadequecy problem get to add a name to a list for no reason. IMO, a RPer should be able to stop using a character in a more creative way. I'm never killing Fett off. You know why? Because I know that there are far more dramatic ways to go. Far more interesting ways to go. To kill them off is to run home and cry to your mum. The wimps way out. Hart left RPing, but never got killed off. Thats good. It means if he ever wanted to come back, he doesnt have to do some dull ressurection thing to use him again. No, better to just stop using, let the character be. Maybe Leeloo finds a purpose in her life, and walks off into the sunset? Far better. I mean, say you did let Jes kill her. Whats that do? a fight thread, maybe one or two RPs, and thats it. Thats pathetic really

And to be honest, I dont see any point in that anyway. Why start afresh? You wont do anything differently. Same people, same everything. Only way to start again is to sever contact with everyone. And that is, to be honest, a bit unfair to everyone else. Youd just end up killing what potential you have. Second comings generally suck when its just to try something. Stick with Leeloo, it'll work out

Also, you have done stuff. You gave me a decent storyline in the 8 years thread, for example.

Oh, and Vice, theres still blood. Theres alittle overflow when you hack at em:) Besides, saber fighting is problematic because, in theory, there should be a death often. theres been Five saber fights in Star wars. Vader killed Ben, Luke lost hand. Vader lost hand(in saber fight), Qui got skewered, Maul got 50% off. Only non dramatic end RP was the one on Tatooine. Using them odds, 4/5s of all saber fights should end with a big injury or a death. Thats why my character evolved away a bit. Took some force away, made him use his saber less. Fetts meant to be an expert with weapons, but its easier to fairly RP his 1911s than a saber

[ReaperFett]

oh, and overlooking the current page 1:

25 threads

13 RPs
2 closed threads
1 picture thread
1 challenge

so, 8/25 are OOC. That is good, wasnt like that a few months ago. Also, note RP Quality. There is more character building going on currently than there ever has been in here. Most RPs were just ::gets a drink:: ::drinks:: :: breaks a B&G rule by pulling out a weapon, the silly fool:: and the like, which would cause an IC B&G to die. But now, theres a few more seeping in, making something or characters


BTW DT, you never did give a list of the TGs. tell us:)

[JediBeldarine]

Gah, I shouldn't have said any particular names..

I would fight anyone I TRUST. This includes (yes) Fewd and LD -- how could I NOT trust you guys after what you know about meh :) :) :) .

LV, LL, Dale, Taja.. People like that.. It's not an all inclusive list though.

And Common Sense goes a long way.. If you have it, you won't godmode.. If you don't, then you don't.

And you can't use a lightsaber as a light in tight situations? Why not? It is illuminated, so if you were walking down a pitch black tunnel, it would light up the area.. Correct? Or am I wrong in this?

[ReaperFett]

Fewd and LD

LV, LL, Dale, Taja

Still no me:)

And yes, they do give of a colour. In some SW books, they see in the dark using them

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

Fett...look at Bel's list. They are SITH that she would fight . Get it;) Hence why no you!!

[JediBeldarine]

::p eats Fett into a bloody pulp::

Fett, I'd love to spar with you.

Does that make you feel better?

[Nupraptor]

But... you just beat him into a bloody pulp. What's the point of a spar? :)

[Aisha Klan Klan]

hehe....

[Jedah Lynch]

The shere indulgence to boost ones ego, whining and elitist attitudes in this thread is astounding.

No wonder the boards are going to hell.

Oh well to two points at hand because I dont want to ruin the feel good moment the self indulgence going around here.

1. Many people have used Swords, and other Sith artifacts on the boards for a long time, before you Virgil. Before you even used many of them DT. How shocking is that? My blades the scimitar for instance, I made them. Nothing special, just good old fashion steel for the most part. Long when I started on the boards over a year and half ago used regular swords among other items on occassion. Some people find Sith swords much like they do some other sith artifacts like pendants, masks and other random items. Is there anything wrong with that? Especially if they roleplay it? To say there is simply nitpicking the issue.

2.


I am molding Bel into a master of Weather Control.. It fascinates me for some odd reason. And I take my time, researching the atmospheric conditions for .. say... a TORNADO. I get everything down pat. The way warm air fronts rises, etc. The certain TYPE of tornado it is meant to be.. etc etc...

And the person I'm fighting simply turns it around on me.

That nearly drove me through the roof.. and ALMOST made me stop RPing. Instead I only will do character improvements now.

In other words me who turned it on you. I will say this if that almost made you stop RPing you might as well give up now because your going to encounter far worse.

My character has been around for a long time and while he is a Sith Master and at that level he is very capable certainly do not try to make him God. I do not care for God Moding crap. Nor did I intend to "drive you through the roof"

It was a simple move and one you might find many to do. Your character for instance is not equal to the rank of mine unless I"m wrong and yes ranks do play a big parts on the board but that aside if you had continued the fight and did good you could have won. Not saying you would have.....just that its always possible especially if you do give it your all and show that in your writing. Leia even did some good work there two months ago or so, she actually gave me the best fight I had in awhile and told her so. It was simply fun.

Back to you Bel...not sure how many know this but Lynch is accomplished in Sith sorcery, that can mean many things. And due to his rank he is certainly a powerful one. He knows his homework and is very much in tuned with the force. How you made the tornado, that was very well done, it was impressive how you said it, not sure if you knew it all yourself or looked it up on a site, whatever the case it was still well done and the fact you added such detail was great in my view.

But just because your able to do a good trick doesnt mean a person cant reverse it. If you cant accept that, then be ready for alot of disappointments. The fact your complaining about it could be simply because you dont know me, talk to me or anything. You'd be amazed what some complain about or dont if they are friends(or not) with them.

If you ever want to continue the fight its up to you. If not no skin off my back either. But really, if you got a problem with something I post when I RP be it with you Bel or anyone else that might RP in the future. Then simply contact me for crying out loud, its really not that hard to do.

[SAURRON]

You guys wanna really role play? Then get yourself a good game master and sit down at a table.

As for this thread ...wow...

[ReaperFett]

Sith Swords are meant to be rare. It seems you people found a bulk discount.

Also, it always annoys me when people play that "I'm a master, so I can.." card. Basically, you seem to be saying that as you are higher than her, you can counter aything she does. Wrong. Just because you are a master, doesnt mean you are better in all fields. You see, the best characters have flaws. Bel is trying solely on weather, a very characterful one. Since that is her main subject, Id say she would be better at it than some general Sith, no matter the rank. And besides, its better RPing to be more original. She does something, you use it against her. Whats the point in trying?

For example, if you read Fetts bio, and, I have(pub56.ezboard.com/fgjofrm9.showMessage?topicID=20.topic (http://pub56.ezboard.com/fgjofrm9.showMessage?topicID=20.topic)) you will find this part:


FORCE SENSITIVE
Yes, although has many grey areas. Fett doesnt have that many skills. His main ability is the power to absorb, which he doesnt need to call upon, meaning it is more of a trait. Apart from that and slight power in healing, Fett has very little. however, he has put huge effort to use these powers to the maximum

So, basically Fett can absorb, heal himself and then the slight force powers of heightened senses, and using the force to speed his body. Otherwise, nothing. Now, That means that Fett has spent more time working on these powers, ergo he would be better than most. Its also why hes a good saberist(IC)



If this thread doesn't pick up, I'm closing it. All this is turning into is having a go at people. I'd rather the c**p flooding than that

[Jedah Lynch]

Fett if you noticed I did say she could have won if she really did try. If someone tries hard enough I couldnt care less if they are an apprentice, they do a good job to take me down and they can get it, dont make it easy but if they try then got no problems with it if they really do a good job.

Nor do I claim to be better then most especially in all fields, My character isnt the ultimate Sith. If this was to brag about how "good" or "powerful" I or my character is then could do much better job at it, but then I do not claim Lynch to be a God or even remotely near such an idiotic level. You really need to read more before you vent man although do understand why you are saying what you are.

On the swords yeah they are rare. But then again how many people use Sith swords really compared to the overall populace who traditionally use lightsabers? Many have unique weapons, not all are Sith swords, some are made of other alloys and metals.

[SAURRON]

Bulk discount...:) :lol:

I have Rp'd mine for some time since before the Tournament. Saurrons thirst for blood demands such a weapon and I thought it appropriate to use. Rare? yes indeed, but then so is one that is as old as he is too. If anyone will turn up with one he will...he's had plenty of time to either find one or make one.

[Jeseth Cloak]

-_-

I agree with Fett on closing this thread... it seems that it's just becoming an arguement or something.

[ReaperFett]

becoming?:)

Seriously though, its best to talk over AIM. Far more personal

[Jedah Lynch]

I thought we just did?

:lol:

[ReaperFett]

only us two:)

[Force Master Hunter]

I think SOME people who choose to read my words from a certain point of view should get their head or eyes checked. I CLEARLY said pulling some artifact from the -DO-NOT-SWEAR--DO-NOT-SWEAR--DO-NOT-SWEAR--DO-NOT-SWEAR- was pissing me off. Not roleplaying it. Roleplaying an artifact is good.

Grrr. Stop twisting my words.

[JediBeldarine]

Lynch..

Honestly, I knew you would do something with the tornado.. but the question was what. When I was sparring with Sage, I did the exact same thing. The way he handled it was really well done. I don't have the link right now.. but if you'd care to check it out, I can give it to you.

He didn't just turn it around on me. I honestly would have rathered you wave your hand and make it disappear and do something different for me to counteract.

The whole problem I'm having with RPing is the lack of creativity. And the turning of the tornado around (after I had done about a half an hour's research on tornados) just really irritated me. Creativity would have had it do something to you.. or maybe researching how tornados move and writing something about that... Or somehow holding it off and having it vere away, and using the dark side to do something to me.

But having my own tornado just magically turn around on me kinda irritated the hell outta me. ::shrugs:: No big deal... I'm sure crap that I've done has irritated the hell out of other people.

All I'm saying is that, I know you're a Master and Bel's a Knight. I've fought some very good people -- DT included. I know that Bel isn't ALWAYS going to win. There are certain things that Bel is better at then most people. I will say I'm better at weather control because I've been practicing it almost since day one in my training. Most people have only random encounters with weather control. Most masters even have only brief encounters with weather control.

To me, honestly.. It would mean I'm more powerful than them in THAT area. Now Bel isn't powerful in many other areas. Cardinal, my Dark Jedi, will be strong in one area, and one area only -- mind control and manipulation. No saber fighting, no weather control, simply mind control. Bel is decent in saber fighting, but has no real experience in hand to hand combat. Now if a very skilled saber fighter suddenly assaulted her, Bel would more than likely fall back on weather control to hold the person off.. Just simply because she can't duel that well.

It takes extreme knowledge of the weather to turn a tornado around.. but that I'm not disputing. It's fine you did.. I just wish you could have found a more creative way of fighting me. That's all.

[Darth Eve]

Alright, let's not get caught in this argument. You can all go on forever about the ligistics of the fight or pre-fight. Perhaps if you want a RP to go a certain way, for the sake of the better story, discuss the perameters before-hand. On IM, or in a small blurb before the fight.

Perhaps if some pre-discussion happened, we wouldn't have decent RPs, which were intended to go one way, for the sake of something original, etc, end up like all the monotone mess that makes up a certain part of swfans.

That doesn't mean that the victor is predetermined at all. It just means that say if DT and I were to duel, that I would know before hand that he has no tolerance for such things, that we have an honor code, that if I violate or don't plan on maintaining - he's honorably out. It deems everyone's effort as valid and may steer us clear of things like this. Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it. Otherwise risk everything, including all your research. I remember some thread at swfans which was completely planned for weeks by one side, and they were sure it was flawless, then some "Tech Engineer" guy just screwed up everything. And that was that. It can happen if we just join RPs with no predetermined perameters.

But getting back to it...

It's freedom. You know by now the people that YOU think are worthy to RP with yourself - people that abide by the honor code - people that are Star Wars true. So RP the game with those people.

[JediBeldarine]

That's why I am only RPing with certain people, Eve.

I just wish people would have some creativity. After all that's what seperates the good RPs from the average RPs. I never talk to people about threads beforehand, unless it's something that needs to be planned out.

Common sense and creativity never need to be talked about. It should just be known. If you don't have creativity, just be one of those people who say "I hit you 40 times with my hammer." and let it go at that.

[Jedah Lynch]

Common sense and creativity....ah Bel, if only you knew me, I've said to many before such things are needed, so much in fact I must sound like a broken record to some by now.

*grins*

But really, how your putting it isnt very accurate, dont believe I'll change your mind on this topic at all but will say when I used the tornado back at you did give it some flair, didnt just say *Lynch takes control of tornado and tosses it back at Bel* I didnt even taken full control of it, at the most I used the powers of the force to push it in a different direction, at first towards the onlookers(whom Fett joked about and so had the tornado to go at them for a laugh in part as an OOC joke) and then once more later at you and even when i did that I made sure to say it was not easy task, not sure of the exact words but did mention it was a task hard for anyone in the force, even a Sith Master that I only pushed it to go in a way and even then didn't wave my hands or the such. I made sure to play up the difficult nature of such a thing, no way did I have full control over it and said as such, yes did have some creativity in it.

I would show the exact post I made but wouldnt you know it.....I cant find it. Not anywhere on Swfans. Do you know where it went Bel?

On the creative and common sense department, creatively I'm damn good at that. Common Sense department I'm even damn good at that......most times.

heh.

After all if I wasnt creative and didnt have common sense I wouldnt be where I'am now. Not a Master. Not a council member on The Sith Empire council or The Sith Order council. Would never have came up with the RSO. Never would have made it to the final four of the tournament held at Swfans. Hell even DT gave me credit once for helping to start the whole serious RP at Swfans many moons ago with the kidnapping of one Lady Mara Jade.

Yes Bel, I'm just that damn good. Only do I usually give credit to how good TSE is doing or the people in it or even people in other groups, but in this I will say for the first and last time due to my view on such topics as bragging.....but here it is I'm one hell of a RPer. One of the best. Not the best of course, but damn capable.

I would post more on the subject but serious doubt its going to lead to anything except a flame war or just a rather petty war of words at the most. At least the thread title of rant time lived up to it eh?

:lol:

Be seeing you around and good luck Bel.

[Sage Hazzard]

I believe I ran straight into the twister, didn't I? I rode it out, and by doing so, pasted through it. But I could only do this because I've focused Sage in the Cellular and Molecular manipulation area. I even did a few threads where it was just me doing so. I would use the Force to strengthen the cellular power of my skin, and then throw myself down a rocky hill. After much trail and error, I got good at it.

Jedah, I fought you once. You're very good, and I don't think people are disputing that. You might think this turned into a flamewar, but you're not helping. No one said you were bad, did they? You don't have to say you're great, we know you are.

And I don't see the problem in saying you're good, and having people say you are good at something. That's what "fanclubs" are for. Movie, Music, Authors, etc. have fan clubs devoted to telling their favorite celebratory how great they are. It's the only way to know if you're hard work has payed off. And I can only speak for myself, but I work darn hard! I write and rewrite, I research, I write things on the side like movies and even the beginning of novels. I think everyone here has earned the right to say they are good. So Jedah and everyone else.... Go ahead and say you're good, I think you've earned it.

[Liam Jinn]

I'm goooood, not just goooood...but great :)