Cheese and whine party

[Anbira Hicchoru]

If its gotta be done, do it here, please. -_-

[Xazor]

Why not clutter it there! I am not going to let it happen!!!! Grrrrr.........

[Anbira Hicchoru]

oh YOU'RE not?

Your say in this suddenly weightier than anybody else's?

Look, just cause a little chaos is injected in here, it isn't the end of the world. The B&G can be rebuilt. Nothing in the rules to state otherwise.

[Xazor]

He threw a little hissy fit and is going to burn down our Bar and Grill! Who cares if it can be rebuilt or not, it's the principle of the fact! Letting the Sith get away with murder........who's side are you on Anbira???
No one said that my say was weightier than anyone elses, I just am disagreeing with the whole thing..... grrrrrrrr.........

[Anbira Hicchoru]

in OOC terms, I'm on whatever the hell side will be a fun RP.

And what has been set up has that opportunity!

Yes his character is upset, and yes he has blown up the bar in response. So deal with it, and enjoy yourself in the afterglow.

I'm tired of good RP's getting bogged down in procedure.

[Xazor]

Whatever......doens't sound like fun to me. Letting him destroy our stuff and then probably try to kick the crap out of us.....yeah, woohoo, fun..........

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Then you really need to think outside the box. If thats the way you've pre-scripted it to progress, that is sad.

Whining is killing some good RPs here. Thats a damn shame.

[Xanatos Etanial]

Whining bad.

Explosions good!

[Sage Hazzard]

That explosion would have killed people. First the people left in the bar, like Avolon Bisel. Second, unless the devices were set up for demolition(implosion), there'd be chaos. Chunks of flaming wood and debris would fly into wooded areas, surrounding buildings, etc. People would surely die. So, this is basicly like war. He's taking out many of our troops. But, since this is war, and a serious roleplay, he should take reality into account. I'm sure the security on that place is through the roof. If he thinks Jedi(with hightened senses) couldn't detect this danger, he's completely wrong.

Anbira, I'm all for good, fun roleplaying. But this is unfair and slipping into god moding in my view. If you want to have a roleplay like this, fine. Have him blow up your house or something. But when he brings the whole Jedi into this, that's wrong. And since we can't legally kill him, it's entirely unfair. In real life he'd be shot on the spot. I don't know about his abilities, but unless he's beyond a Master, a Jedi Master would be able to know it was him, if he was still on site. Meaning he'd be slaughtered.

[Marcus QDunn]

Anbira, I'm all for good, fun roleplaying. But this is unfair and slipping into god moding in my view. If you want to have a roleplay like this, fine. Have him blow up your house or something. But when he brings the whole Jedi into this, that's wrong. And since we can't legally kill him, it's entirely unfair. In real life he'd be shot on the spot. I don't know about his abilities, but unless he's beyond a Master, a Jedi Master would be able to know it was him, if he was still on site. Meaning he'd be slaughtered.


Partially my opinion. My other part is that full blown attacks should have been cleared with an admin first.

[Anbira Hicchoru]

nobody even bothered to read the post then. Nobody was killed. Stated as much.

But sure, whatever. I'm outta this @#%$. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)">

[Sage Hazzard]

I took it apon myself to ask for admin approval before punching a guy. I also asked the receiver of the smack. I thought this was board policy. Any kind of fight is not allowed unless approved by an admin. That was my understanding.

EDIT: Anbira, that's the point. They would have been. I can't say, "I stab you in the heart but it doesn't kill you, so it's okay!"

[Morgan Evanar]

I thought it was fairly clear that the bar was closed due to the damage, and, as such, was under construction.

This was a fairly logical assumption.

And you know, likely the other oft-present admin would have said no.

Xazor: What he did was legal. We now have justification to hunt Vampires down with extreme predjudice. So run with it.

[DMourning Orb]

Distasteful, in a word. Especially after 9/11. I mean, I know that they didn't intend it that way, but still...

[Anbira Hicchoru]

Come off that...its a bombing. Big deal.

Not everything that goes kaboom should be linked with that.

[Marcus QDunn]

And you know, likely the other oft-present admin would have said no.


And maybe he wouldn't have. Maybe he sees there is potential in a bombing attempt and maybe he would have thought about it and made a few suggestions and then just let it go. But he now furious that it was Just Simply Done, with no allowance for us to prevent it.

And that is what is rankling me right now, it was Just Simply Done. No other group is goign to allow this to happen on their turf. Do you seriously think that we could do the same to Rama's and not be questioned or provoke anger?

[Morgan Evanar]

Maybe we should try and be a little bigger than the other groups then. So we don't have to cry when our empty, pretend buildings blow up.


Distasteful, in a word. Especially after 9/11. I mean, I know that they didn't intend it that way, but still...

Grab a damned clue.

[Alana Stormcloud]

Amen brother and besides big diff that building was real people and this is just RP did everyone forget how to have fun rping and using rps to make better stories hellooooo come on keep your foolish overtures to yourself 9/11 please if u put as much effort into your posts as you do in your whining oocs then you might have a good story... Soth wanted to create a cleaver story that everybody could get on without everyone freaking out and as Anbira said it can be rebuilt and the fun you could have with it is endless ... Are you all so afraid of an open RP that you don't know how to run with it or does everything have to be prearranged battle sequences that only fit you approval... Now I know why all the groups stay to themselves.. what a joke...

[DMourning Orb]

There are soldiers that have died to fight for our cause in the war against terrorism, so don't tell me to come off of 9/11. The first thought that occurred in my head after reading that post was the thought of 9/11. It wasn't just yesterday to me. I'm not trying to sound melodramatic here, but I felt that blowing up the bar was in very poor taste. If you don't like the comparison to 9/11 I'm sorry, that's just how I feel. That is my opinion. Once again, I'm not saying that that was their intention, nor did I expect for anyone else to agree with me on my view. I was merely venting.

BTW, movies pertaining to terroristic activity were delayed after 9/11. Some movies were edited to cut down on their amount of violence. So, I don't think I'm completely alone in my thinking. It was a very sensitive issue at the time, and it still is for some of us.

EDIT:To clarify, I thought that Jedi were killed in the explosion. That is why I said that it was in poor taste, and commented on how inappropriate it was, six months removed from 9/11. I did not compare it to 9/11 because they blew up a bar.

[Marcus QDunn]

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Quite clearly stated what is expected here.

I will sum up...

Fighting is generally not allowed in the B&G

Weapons are not allowed except for certain exceptions

Fights are to be informed to an admin, to prevent someone freaking out.

Fight and blow @#%$ up to your hearts content in the Trading Base. Of course, expect someone to come after you IC.

I have stated the bombing isnt my problem. What is my problem is that it should have been mentioned to a admin and that there was no chance to stop, as there would have been IC.

Doing this was always goign to be touchy, so you should have made sure you didnt create a hostile OOC attitude. A little it of negotiation and idscussion could have avoided this entirely.

[Sage Hazzard]

Okay, this is probably my last post on the subject. Atleast I hope. I'm not in an arguing mood, so I don't want to keep on debating.

I have one thing to say: It was stupid to think no one would object to this. He should have asked if it'd be alright. I see distruction of property under the same law of "no killing". If I'm correct, it's taboo to cut one's lightsabre in half anymore. It's ours, and it's unfair. If he would have suggested a roleplay where he's attempting this feat, and we have to stop it, I'd be fine with it. I'd even be fine if we couldn't stop him and it went kablam. This was cowardly in my view. If Soth wants to change the roleplay to that, I'm fine with it.

One more thing, I see that Anbira and him were really wanting to roleplay his vendetta. I suggest he goes and blows up his property. Just a suggestion.

I'm out.

[Navaria Tarkin]

Personally... I dont care that the B&G gets destroyed. It can be rebuilt and all that jazz.

I am in agreement that there should be a discussion with an admin/council person first only to get it cleared.

Considering that the B&G was moved to Arcan in the first place was because of this reason I thought. Since it isn't where the Academy is there is a more then likely chance that kaboom could happen.. of course cleared.

and of course, anytime something like this happens, there is always a heated discussion. How things happen it seems, and understandably so... but if you are that mad, don't post being upset and angry. It won't help the situation. Take a breather and come back when you can keeps things IC and OOC =)

my thoughts.

[Marcus QDunn]

Thread in particular is moved and reopened. I believe our point has been made. Please take this into consideration in the future and be aware some of us DO regard this as our home.

GJO Admin.

[Anbira Hicchoru]

I suggest he goes and blows up his property

like WHAT?

-_-

Anbira has the clothes on his back.

(sigh)

[AmazonBabe]

Hmmm... can we say to hell and back?... yeah... <img src=http://www.thegjo.com/forum/smileys/blah.gif ALT=":-|">

[Loki Ahmrah]

Some people should look up the definitions of discussion and arguement - it seems there are a number of people who can't distinguish between the two.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether they agree or disagree with what happenned, to be perfectly honest I don't care what happened although I did raise my opinion about how it happened.

Some people really oughta get themselves a dummy or whatever the American word is for the thing babies suck on(I think there's a word you guys use - you would have to be different! <img src=http://www.thegjo.com/forum/smileys/magtongue.gif ALT=":p"> ) as the display of bickering here is pitiful. Could you please bugger off if you're gonna argue.

[Xazor]

(Ahem, pacifier, Loki.......hehehe.......where are you from??) ;)

[Figrin D an]

I'll have the Gruyere and a nice Sauvignon Blanc...


*** Looks around as people stare at him blankly. ***


What?

[Force Master Hunter]

I believe opinions have been expressed and there has been a resolution.

Closed.