Jedi Missions,Disturbing Forces,+more (First Council vote)

[verse dawnstrider]

Ok, the topic is back. Everyone likes the idea, but the ball has never rolled. My idea.

1)The Jedi in Star Wars were often sent on missions. Sages idea with Benavelet(I killed the s/p) Force was great. Now I say we take it a step further. We could come up with RP idea as a whole (All GJO) take down names of all who wish to join in this, and go from there. We could be ammbassitors and much more. The possibilities are endless. It will also help bring the Jedi together more.

2)Disturbing Forces. The opposite of Sage's Idea. We can talk to members of TSO, TSE, TGE, TBH, and get them in on this. Lets face it. Most of the Open stuff is challenges. I say we ask if they wish to start trouble, and place this name infront of it. This will allow us to know that Jedi would be liekd to join. We could tie this in on the missions. The put the title in, and we assign people to respond.

3) Seperate Council room for votes. This is for a couple of reasons. It would keep the missions secret and stuff, as well other stuff. Take Promotions. You are in here seeing a couple of people fight to get you promoted, but others saying no. I know it would hurt my feelings to know people don't think I am ready for whatever. Plus, it keeps people from knowing who votes for what. If X knows that Y said no in his/her promotion thread, they may hold a grudge. I know a few that do this. Plus it would keep unwanted clutter out of voting threads.

My Votes:
1)yes
2)yes
3)yes


Totals:
1) One for/one against
2) Two For/non against
3) One For/One against

[JediMasterAnakin]

I think your ideas are very interesting..I like the missions but im still not clear.

Is there going to be a seperate room for council memebers to vote on who gets to go on a mission..if so that is really cool.

I am for it..even though im just a padawan and like my opinion counts.

[Anbira Hicchoru]

1. no
2. yes
3. no

[Morgan Evanar]

No
Maybe.
No.

[Marcus QDunn]

a) All you need to do for this is simply ask to do this and be prepared to do the oranisation.

2) Again, see above. Both just need some organisation. * Bites tongue after this - wont say more :: grin:: *

Neither really IMO opinion are Council questions. It's a roleplaying question

3) The reason that Avalon was opened up was to create total openness with all our members. Votes were to be open, opionions frank and honest. Votes are IC. If someone takes offence OOC, then they should consider this is only a game.

[Master Yoghurt]

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No

For basically the reasons Marcus stated

[Navaria Tarkin]

Group ideas just need to be brought up here and then peeps that wish to participate sign up say so. Orginazation is the key as Marcus already said. So, if you want to lead, be prepared to make it happen.

Orginization again but good. I'm for it.

Last one no. I like having everyone know what is going on. Disputes happen openingly and get settled. Everyone has a voice in everything. It is a breath of fresh air.

[AmazonBabe]

1. Isn't this like any other RP? Or did I miss the point entirely?

2. Yes.

3. No.

[Gurney Devries]

Just like to toss in a tidbit:

If you did have a seperate forum for voting and such, people would just go to greater lengths to find out who voted for or against their promotion (in that example). They'd still know, but now they'd think the person was going behind their backs.

By allowing everyone to see how the vote goes - including the person being voted on - it keeps a strictly IC air to the matter.

[Oriadin]

When people vote against someone getting a promotion they usually give a reason why, havent been here long enough, dont put themselves about enough etc etc. I think it helps the majority of people to know what they have to do to get promoted. Sure, some people may take offence but on the whole I think it helps people.

As for the other two, Im in favour.

[Loki Ahmrah]

1. Probably not:- sorry but reliable consistancy in replying from all members is too much to ask, too many extraneous variables affect this.

2. Yes.

3. No.

[Jedi Knight Leia Solo]

Hmm...

Ok..these are my votes:

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. No

[Dasquian Belargic]

1. No.
2. Yes.
3. No.

[Morgan Evanar]

Irritable bastard side is now in full swing, be warned.

I don't see why we couldn't set up RPs with TSE/TSO/TBH/whatever else anyway. We don't need a tagline for it, or an initiative.

If you want to wack Sith/Dark Jedi, jeebus, go talk to some. Not like most aren't aimiable, friendly people. Hrm, you might even be able to mix some character development in.

Hmm, wait, what I'm talking about sounds like RPing! OH MY.

[Loki Ahmrah]

Where in the name of sanity did that little rant come from!? <img src=http://www.thegjo.com/forum/smileys/Looking_anim.gif ALT=":confused">

(Kicks Morgan out of thread) Take your medication! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)">


Edit: Bloody smilies.

[Navaria Tarkin]

I work in a pharmacy, maybe I can help <img src=http://www.thegjo.com/forum/smileys/magtongue.gif ALT=":p">

I only agreed with the first two since all it takes are willing participants and planning. It does take some work but they can be done.

[Sage Hazzard]

1) I need clearification of this one before voting. Do you mean a thread where all Jedi are perticipating? Like a group "Benevolent Forces"? If so, why not just make a RP called "Benevolent Forces: All Folds"? (hehe, I like that name)

2) I like the idea of "assigning" people. You mean that Sith are wrecking something, going on a murderous rampage, etc, aren't you? Then a Jedi's sent to handle the situation? Hmm... That could help make "challenges" more storylike. I like it. My vote is Yes.

3) I have actually proposed this idea. It has both pros and cons. The Pros you mentioned, Verse. The Cons, the others mentioned. But in the end, it creates a feeling of mistrust. We're Jedi IC and OOC somewhat. We need a community where there's nothing secretive. I vote No.

[JediBeldarine]

1) I, too, would like clarification on this one.. As this stands, my vote is no.

2) This idea has merit, however.. and my vote is yes.

3) And this one.. hmm... I'd have to say no. Even though it might hurt someone's feelings, they do have a right to hear what is said about them. If they merit a promotion, they will get it.. If they don't, they will understand why. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)">

[verse dawnstrider]

Verse's Irritable bastard side is now in full swing, be warned.

I can see the pro's and cons of a locked room. It was just an idea. As for the Sith Missions...
When you see 'Attack on What's His Face' you have no idea what it is, many times you don't have time to find out. Seeing the tag will allow people to know it is a Sith/Jedi RP. I just think it would be fun.


In any case, I would organize. I will type the message to the other groups explaining it. I really don't have a job here and it will give me something to do. If the missions are not a go, the atleast the Disturbing Forces would be good.

More stuff one Idea #1:
It is the same as a normal RP, but it would more Jedi Style like in the Movies. Obiwan and Qui Gon Jiin just so happen to be near naboo to work as ambassitors? The Council Sent them. It would allow us to get more in teh field liek a group. As it is, all we really are are a bunch of Jedi staying together. Not really a 'group'. What does teh council do besides vote on Promotions? IE: Some TSE are holding and area hostage. The Council sends Me and Xazor to try and stop it. We would literaly be sent by GJO, not saying "we come to represent GJO."


Before I forget...... Marcus, and Xazor. I need to talk to you both. I have a question for Marcus, and a Request for Xazor.

[Xazor]

Okay......PM me then I suppose, or you have my email I think. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)"> I'll be around....... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Oh yes...even though I am not on the council, I like all of the ideas.

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes (but make it open to the Knights and Masters too, so that we can be there to fight for their promotion. Like, if I bring in one of my padawans, I want to be there!)

Okay, that's all I have to say! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)">

[Anbira Hicchoru]

The vote is over.

1. Yes wins (5 to 3)
2. Yes wins (8 to 0)
3. No wins (7 to 1)

[Sage Hazzard]

Ah, very good. I'd just like to say that after you're clearification, I find that both 1 and 2 desearve a yes. And I am voting "yes" for both of those.

Just to explain more fully why I see 3 is not a good idea, let me say this. Whenever something is secretive, it gives the feeling of mistrust. Although it would help from saving feelings form being hurt, it wouldn't really help them. Would you rather be up for promotion and they say no, with no reason? Or would you rather know why, and then be able to change you're actions to become more Knightlike. Also, if you're saying that the Padawan would not know he/she's up for promotion, then only told when the answer is yes, that still creates the same problem. The reasons for "no"s need to be explained so everyone can gain a better understanding. Not only for the one up for promotion, bur for all Padawans and Jedi. If you're a new Padawan and someone was just turned down for promotion, wouldn't it help you so you don't make the same mistakes as the turned away nominee in the future?

Also, even though not all of you're ideas were accepted, I don't want you to be discouraged. You're bravery in coming forward with new and challenging ideas is something to be admired. Most times people bite their tounges for fear of creating turmoil. More people should come forward with their ideas. It might be for the better. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/image/emoticons_classic/smile.gif ALT=":)">

[Helenias QDunn]

I personally dont understand why 1 and 2 needed voting on. To me, is that just normal roleplaying, or did I miss a point?

As for 3 - this thread showed why Council Votes should not be secret. Was there not some good input by non council members? Besides, I dont fear what others think of what I say. I would much rather say what I think, rather than sneak around behind backs.

[verse dawnstrider]

OK, I'll get a letter written for the 'Enemy' groups. I'll post it here to be proof read and get input. Anyone, and everyone is welcome to help. Thank you for your time.

[Sage Hazzard]

I believe the first idea is that the council will assign people to jobs. Like the Council comes up with a fake problem and dispatches Jedi. That's what I got from his idea. Also, the second one is the same thing I believe. Evil dudes make trouble, Council dispatches Jedi.

[Ryla Relvinian]

(just to put my 2 dubloons in here...) Yes, I see 1&2 as normal RPing. This is something that I'm sure a lot of experienced RPers can coordinate in their sleep with their left litle toe. However, I see this as an advantage to newly-trained knights. Often times, there is a gap between what is taught to a padawan and what the newly knighted need to know to train others. This way, they can get out, roam around, get used to fighting and interacting with other people than their masters. I vote Yes{/b] on both, (even though it doesn't count now, I suppose) because I think they will help out the intermediate players to become better. :]

The third one I don't think is nee

[Oriadin]

Has there been any futher development with the whole, counsil sending Jedi on missions?

I really like this idea and just want to see if its going anywhere. Judging by this thread the majority of the board are in favour.