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[Lord Gue]

Could someone please inform me as to whats been going on since I left last? The new groups and people, I hate being in the dark...

[ReaperFett]

Yog got married

[Lord Gue]

Also, whats the current ownership of Coruscant, and could someone please restate its defenses...

[Seth Darkserpent]

The Galactic Empire formerly known as Galactic Military Alliance still owns Coruscant.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Reaperfett has a harem and 10 children

[Champion of the Force]

The Greater Jedi Order and the Sith Empire united.

[Darth Viscera]

Defenses: 130,000,000 Troops of various types and 100,000 Type 1 Defensive Fortifications, hundreds of orbital force sensors and thousands of cloaking mines of equal types, various orbital battle stations, various planet-based Gencore IV shield generators and Lnr-II Turbolasers, and 3 Star Destroyer Divisions, subject to what's going on IC in Coruscant Sector at the time more or less, though don't codify this text.

EDIT~And if you use any info stated in this thread IC, I won't stop until you're banned. :)

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

lol Dav ... and Leia got married to Han ^_^

[Marcus Telcontar]

SHE DID????

ACK!!!!

Why wasn't I invited?!?!?

[Charley]

My escort service, aka Cizerack Pride, continues to flourish...I, um...guess :)

[Frank Harrigan]

I have begun hunting Cizerack and turning them into throw rugs

[Marcus Telcontar]

I think your going to end up as Forrrda mate.

[Lord Gue]

Well DV, up to a certain point I think my character would know of a little of the defense's. Anywho, why would one SSD try to attack Coruscant anyway?
What about those other groups? Who are they?

[Seth Darkserpent]

Anywho, why would one SSD try to attack Coruscant anyway?

Because Gue's commanding it :)

[Lord Gue]

Come on, even Itala and Bane wouldnt try to test them odds

[Marcus Telcontar]

Yes they would

[Lord Gue]

Okay maybe Itala, but not Bane at least

[ReaperFett]

they'd think they had too much of an advantage :)

[HaeLari Draevyn]

:p Does it matter that I'm new? lol

[Darth Viscera]

Well DV, up to a certain point I think my character would know of a little of the defense's.

Not true, seeing as how 100% of these defenses were put up just when TGE moved in. Espionage would be rather tricky from the perspective of your character, what with the orbital force detectors.

Your best bet, if you'd like to have recon regarding the defenses, would be to send in someone who is not force sensitive. Please note that I'm being idiosynchratic on this issue; don't make me fall off the fence yet again.

[Lord Gue]

Well, if you built them just as soon as TGE moved in, then Id know about all of them. If youd remember I was your grand admiral at the time you moved into Coruscant...

[Marcus Telcontar]

ORBITAL FORCE DETECTORS!?!?!?!


I'll ignore I heard that nonsense.

[ReaperFett]

That's okay, we could block out the force, a la Corran Horn :)

[Darth Viscera]

Gue: Yes, for a few days. I'll accept a fractional bit of knowledge pertaining to Coruscant (your character would be aware of 20% of the defenses, and that's me being lazily generous, as I don't feel like going into the archives and recalling the construction dates, else I could likely reduce that to 0%. Again, I'm showing an interest in compromise, and I expect you to reciprocate that.).

DT: Recall the Jedi Academy Trilogy, and you'll be aware that I have precedence in this matter.

[Darth Viscera]

True, Fett, you could. You could do a number of things that would get you past the force detectors. Action, reaction.

[Marcus Telcontar]

Vis = Be aware the Jedi Acadmy Trilogy was a small handheld device with a tiny range. You are talking about something that is nothing short of perposterous.

Like, has anyone thought taht detecting a Force user actually is rather hard? Even if your a Jedi of my standing? It's totally possible that you could be standing right next to me and unless you were using the Force, I would not know. Now that's right from the movies themselves. I know we tend to shortcut on this, but COME ON.... this is nothing short of God Moding, claiming you can blanket an entire planet of umteen gazillion people, who god know how much space traffic coming in and out, with some sort of Force Detection net that works 100% of the time.

Nonsense. No. Never. IGNORED.

[ReaperFett]

Oh, and the JAT detectors were made to be put in by LFL, to add more depth to midichlorians :)

[Frank Harrigan]

Not to mention the blocks it would cause... tons of people have latent force talents and no training... you'd have to stop every bloody ship

[Darth Viscera]

Vis = Be aware the Jedi Acadmy Trilogy was a small handheld device with a tiny range.

The devices were designed to detect Jedi in crowds of people. I'd say a 90 meter range at least, for the handheld unit.


this is nothing short of God Moding, claiming you can blanket an entire planet of umteen gazillion people, who god know how much space traffic coming in and out, with some sort of Force Detection net that works 100% of the time.

Imperial security is not so relaxed as that in TPM. For example, on TGE-controlled Imperial Center, space traffic is channeled to 4 queues, and each vessel in each queue must pass through a force detection grid, composed of hundreds of units. Reminiscent of a metal detector, only on a scale sufficient for ships. I never mentioned blanketing a planet, and I suggest that it was your expediency that led you to that conclusion. The incoming traffic is merely scanned, ship by ship through a large, flexible (for large freighters), durasteel grid. Stopping every bloody ship is acceptable, and those found would be quickly detained.

Personally, I'm going to dismiss your ignore request until you come up with a complaint that is more solid as to why this is god moding.

[ReaperFett]

Star by Star had traffic control. They did it more fun. They used Rogue Squadron :)

[Darth Viscera]

I haven't read Star by Star yet, Fett. Though, rest assured that several squadrons would be about, checking to make sure that no ships slip the queue :)

[Marcus Telcontar]

Cause it's totally ludicous? The Jedi Detector was netioned once and then quite poorly. It is not mentioned in any other book from what I know of. If you really think you can stop Bounty Hunters and Force suers moving onto Coruscant virtually at will, your kidding yourself. Arcan IV is probably better controlled, due to the fact it has far, far, far, far less aerial traffic and yet I can accept a resourceful person will get past..... cause space is frigging big and sensor gaps exist. It's just not possible to seal off a planet You just can not shut of a non self relying planet like a tap, have you ever thought just how much traffic HAS to come in? Coruscant is not self reliant, your likely to have couple THOUSAND craft per minute, let alone in a day.

So your trying to tell me you can scan every ship, perfectly, all the time? IN FOUR LINES?!?!? No gaps?

It's


Not


Possible



So does that mea no one is allowed to roleplay on Curuscant anymore cause we cant get in or out cause you have some wonderful gatekeeper mechanism that stops us all?


I am ignoring, because it is total nonsense and also goes against fair play.

[Charley]

Very good point. Massive system congestion. On a planet like Coruscant, good luck on that...even if the technology had that kind of feed range.

Vis think about it in terms of the tradeoff system. In order to make something that is cool, it has to have a tradeoff, or weakness. Having Jedi detectors is fine and dandy, but I'd keep the tradeoff of range if I were you.

I just read the part about the four checkpoints...LOL

No way. No way in hell.

[Seth Darkserpent]

Okay...The Force detectors count midichloreans, right?

Oh, and what happens when a Force adept or Force wielding individual is located? Is he/she required to give identification? Or are they immediately shot down?

What about those people who are "shining beacons in the Force" but have no Force potential? (For example Mon Mothma and Wedge Antilles have been described as this.) Does the force detector measure midichloreans? Or does it measure force potential? If it measured force potential it could probably be cloaked by ysalimiri or simple force cloaking techniques.

[ReaperFett]

And Jag Fel and Talon Karrde Seth, they are shining:)

[Darth Viscera]

You're all missing the point.

Jedi can and do ignore every single defensive asset in our possession. At will. IC. Point me in the direction of a Jedi who can claim to have escaped a force detector/checkpoint. The point is that it would require actual effort to get through this device, and cannot be simply dismissed IC by a minimalist or a space cadet.

I'm afraid that I won't be budging on this particular issue, irregardless of the cost of remaining adamant. It's a safeguard against future and past god-moding.

By no means in hell will I allow another Thyferra (a masterful piece of OOC/IRL roleplayer manipulation that, oddly enough, didn't even require the use of Julian) to take place. I say that with the utmost stern resolve.

[Charley]

The Thyferra RP was brilliant, fun, and I see absolutely no problem with its execution at all.

[Seth Darkserpent]

I'm still wondering out of personal curiousity.

Do these force scanner things measure midichlorean count or force potential?

[Darth Viscera]

Even though it required the IRL manipulation of a roleplayer who was already in enough emotional distress to keep him quiet and prevent IC opposition? I seem to recall that one of the founding rules of RP is something to the effect that IRL comes first.

No, Thyferra was a travesty of roleplaying.

[Charley]

You'll have to be very lucid on this point. I saw no such evidence of this at all.

[Darth Viscera]

Well then you're very lucky to have avoided frustration on this topic for the better part of a year. Ask GaToRgIrLiE20 on AIM what happened. I'm sure she'll give you a scaled-down version of what she did (if she recalls at all), followed by buttering you up, if how she spoke to me is any indication of how she would speak to you.

[Marcus Telcontar]

It's a safeguard against future and past god-moding.


That is such a weak reasoning for having this setup that just simply cant be done.



Point me in the direction of a Jedi who can claim to have escaped a force detector/checkpoint.


* Points at himself *

The last time I was on Coruscant, I snuck in on a commerical flight, got to a ground based checkpoint (which is resonable after all) and proceeded to either mind trick or bribe my way through. Now also given this character also has done Bounty Hunting in the past, getting past official controls are something he is well versed in.

And I will simply continue to ignore any such notion of a Ubernet of Force Detectors. It's perposterous as you have stated it. I might swallow a limited amount based on the ground, but there is NO WAY what you have laid out is going to be adhered to.

[ReaperFett]

I must say, the memory wipe I gave Disra to make him think that he wasn't manipulated, and that he has his own brain, must have been a huge success.

[Darth Viscera]

That's not funny in the least, Fett. Don't even try to manipulate him. That joke is in poor, poor taste. :mad

[Seth Darkserpent]

Don't even try to manipulate him.

Say what?

Oh and I did find that joke funny :)

[Frank Harrigan]

I remember Gavens attack on me at TGC... he destroyed four ships in one post, including my command DSD despite being outnumbered 3 to 1... now that was bad

[Marcus Telcontar]

Ahhh, now there is a God Moder. He left here after two of us wouldn't put up with his **** any longer and beat up his poor excuse of a moded fleet.

Still brings a smile to my face to see a Moder get his comeuppance.

[Strider]

What about... Oh no, that idea is just too gruesome...


Oh and if I remember correctly I froze Frank in Corbonite, so he can talk about hunting, but he can't move a muscle.... :p

And there is always a way to get on Coursacant...


As for the other groups.....

[Moltar]

TSE: Their fleet recently split off from their group and is now known as The Conclave...

TSO: Not much has changed, but I'd ask LV about her and Darth Vader soon to be Wed...

TGE: They still control most of the Galaxy, well fleetwise anyway...

TBH: Around here somewhere...

New Republic: Here again, gone, here again, ect..

GJO: New Council, perhaps a new attitude... I guess only time can tell.

Ciz: LL Escort service, or is it love connection?

Others: Many of the same groups that have been here are still here.

[Frank Harrigan]

Don't forget Order of the Fist!

[Moltar]

Oh yes, the Order of the Fist has appeared. I don't really know what they are about. But we may soon find out.

[Frank Harrigan]

We're allabout the bling bling and a harem ofhot beeyatches

[Integra Hellsing]

I was hoping this topic might help me get a handle on the goings on around his place, but somehow I don't think it really is. I wonder...

[Marcus Telcontar]

Order of the Fist???


---- INVADER ZIM MODE ------


OBEY THE FIST!!!

[HaeLari Draevyn]

Ummm Double Posted? Ignore this! lol

[HaeLari Draevyn]

lol Integra. I know how you feel. I've been around for a few days and I'm still a bit confused myself about how things go. But that'll pass sooner or later. :) It always does. *blinks when she hears Invader Zim*

Grr! Why is there BACON in my soap?!?!

[Moltar]

Well, where is GAV, and his update crew?

[Marcus Telcontar]

I've been here isince the beginning, way back in the past.... and honestly, sometimes I have no idea what happens around here

[Darth Viscera]

Granted, Coruscant is not self-reliant. The other 57 planets ship registered trade aboard Imperial Freighters which are authorized to circumvent the queues. The queues are for non-registered ships (tradeships from without the Empire, visitors, etc). Luckily enough, they serve a second purpose of acting as a sort of pseudo-Iron Curtain for the throneworld. This is intentional, as necessary supplies come registered.

So if you can stow aboard a registered Imperial freighter that is en route to Coruscant, problem solved. Heck, Garrett approached me about it and there was no problem-he got onto Coruscant by stowing aboard a registered Imperial freighter. I think he's still there, under the Empire's nose.

Charley, are you implying that hundreds of meters is too far a range for an array of a few hundred detectors? Heck, it just scans one ship.

[Charley]

Yes.

[Darth Viscera]

What would you recommend? Customs Stormtroopers equipped with detectors?

[Charley]

Yes.

[Darth Viscera]

Are you being insincere?

[Marcus Telcontar]

What LL says is much more likely and acceptible. Goons running around with detectors is quite fair.

[Charley]

100 percent sincere. Terse, but quite sincere. I'd prattle on, but I'm also finishing my project.

[Darth Viscera]

Ah. My mistake; I naturally identify brusqueness with a disconcerting feeling that someone is mad at me.

I concur. Henceforth, the jedi detectors shall be customs checkpoints whereby customs stormtroopers search the ship (amount of stormies in proportion to ship size) with handheld jedi detectors of minimal range.

*Stamps the thread with the royal seal, leaving DT covered in ink*

[Marcus Telcontar]

You mean seaweed. If you stamped the thread with a squid, then I would be covered in ink. And I imagine Greenpeace will be after you for that seal stamping

[Darth Viscera]

I am working in collusion with the French Government to rid the world of Greenpeace. Seal stamping is for sissies, btw. Seal clubbing is where the real deal is. Bam! ooh, splat. Bam! again.

Yes, ever since the ambush at China Palace, I have been ever weary of seals, and one day they too shall die. Damn thing bit my nose.

[Charley]

I want to be able to further my political incorrectness one day, and eat seal meat or something.

[Darth Viscera]

:x

Tastes like a frozen rubber chicken. You can try and gnaw on it for a while, but it's not really worth it-no taste.

In the end, seals are only good for clubbing. Great tension reducer.

[Frank Harrigan]

In the end, seals are only good for clubbing. Great tension reducer.

I dunno, when I go clubbing, I tend to do it with other humans, seals are ****ty dancers

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

Originally posted by Moltar

Ciz: LL Escort service, or is it love connection?



depends on who you talk to.....:mischief ;)

[Sith Ahnk]

Theres no one else in the room so I gotta be talking to you (or myself)

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

*doesn't like forrda so :mneh *

[Sith Ahnk]

Ah, a lesbian eh
*goes to register female nic*

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

um, hell no.....I meant that Seer doesn't like foreign males, she prefers Cizerack males.....*Seer hugs Kitssarri, her manservant*

[Sith Ahnk]

You would take your manservant over Homicidal, Suicidal, Genocidal?

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

bakame forrda, jI prrreferrr mjy male overrr sssomethjing asss brrrajin dead asss jyou......besssjidesss Kjit jisss good at what he doesss.....*smirks and winks at Kitssarri*

[Ken Jiang]

Woah! What a thread! :eek

...uuummm.....

I'm not getting involved!

*runs away*

[Lord Gue]

Even worse, Seer hates stalkers!
Gotta give Visc a hand, 4 lanes? waitta make entrance to Coruscant slower than a visit to the post office...
and on the subject of custums stormtroopers....
"These arnt the droids your looking for..."

[Admiral Lebron]

Yes but they will realize there is force potent beings on the ship and most likely call for backup. Since they most likely all know what the dratted Jedi/Sith can do.

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

Originally posted by Lord Gue
Even worse, Seer hates stalkers!


damn right that I hate stalkers...which you learned the hard way....

[Lord Gue]

Hard way my eye, I figure you learned the hard way to be harsher to thick headed people

[Seerrasseei Tsseerra]

must not make rude comment.....

[Lord Gue]

Must not make tasty Italian dinner....

[Darth Viscera]

Gotta give Visc a hand, 4 lanes? waitta make entrance to Coruscant slower than a visit to the post office...

:lol That's the whole point!

[Lord Gue]

I bet of those 4 lanes only one operates at a time, for 'convienence'

[Darth Viscera]

Bah, we're not sadists! All four of the lanes will operate 24/7, except on weekdays, also precluding rain, sleet, snow, fear of night, breakfast time, brunch, luncheon, dinner, tea time, and supper.

Oh yeah, and we're not responsible for starships seized due to inactivity. Our traffic lanes may never be open, but our tow truck-ships never sleep!

[Lord Gue]

What a brilliant way to sieze all ships used in civilian operations!
Shut down a check point momentarily, and in the down time, sieze their vessel under claim of inactivity...

[Darth Viscera]

Ex.
*Points to the 'No Loafers Allowed' sign*

Let's go, lazybones! Your ship belongs to the Empire now!

[Moltar]

Well, well, well....
So there is a way onto Coursacant....

[Darth Viscera]

yep. registered imperial freight. would you like a 6 meter³ box, or one with a bathroom?

[Lord Gue]

You could always disguise yourself as a message bouy, least then ya might have a chance of getting through in the next two to a hundred years

[Marcus Telcontar]

As long as Fellowship of the Ring is playing in transit, dont care :p

[Darth Viscera]

Good idea!
The Assault-class Message Buoy. Send 100,000 of them at once against a target, and they'll get the message!

[Lord Gue]

Thats like that comics idea of naming missles:
1. Oops missles- go off at random at random enemies of the us
2. Pissed missles- sounds good on the news
"Today, 20 pissed missles were luanched from southern...."

[Marcus Telcontar]

Ack! i laughed at a Gue comment!

I'm unclean!!! AGGGHHH!!!

[Darth Viscera]

It seems as though more Oops missiles are launched. Maskirovka my foot!

[Moltar]

Very interesting....