An Isard Question

[Tirsa Krylana]

Is Delirion retired as Isard because if she isn't ... then we got two of them <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

pub2.ezboard.com/fswvstit...3986.topic (http://pub2.ezboard.com/fswvstitanicstarwarsroleplayingarchive.showMessage ?topicID=3986.topic)

:: hopes the answer is not she was cloned :: :p

[tracesha]

I spoke with Delirion last evening on AIM and know for a fact that her Isard character is still around and has some RP plans.

[Nupraptor]

Attack of the Clones? :|

[Tirsa Krylana]

You would have to say that :|

[Jedah Lynch]

The new one is from the chats.

[Nupraptor]

Yeah, I recall seeing her around her before. She posted a few times over at RSO, unless I'm mistaken.

[Lady DeVille]

....how do we handle having two people playing the same character?!

[Nupraptor]

Well, we have about half a dozen Leia's, so this shouldn't be too much of a problem.

[Tirsa Krylana]

We do? The other Leia broke away from Swfans, who didnt really post here anyway. Only regular poster is Leia from GJO.

[Seth Darkserpent]

Well...we could kill the clones and let the originals live :evil:

[Lady DeVille]

So does that mean that Del's Isard gets to stay, and the other needs to either play her as a different Isard, or leave??

[Nupraptor]

I assume you mean JK Leia Solo. There was also Leia1138, who no longer posts as well as the one you mentioned. Plus, I've seen many different variations (Leia Solo, Organa Solo, etc). But yes, JK Leia Solo is by far the most active here.

[Tirsa Krylana]

True Nuppy ... and De'Ville .. dont know the answer hence why I am asking :p

[FightingChance]

Actually, The other Isard that posted at RSO, has been here longer then me and I've been here for a few years.

[tracesha]

Link us a single thread here at SWFans that proves what you just said FC?

[ReaperFett]

years. Maximum is two. You sure about that statement? :)

[Director Ysanne Isard]

For your information, I have been posting as Director Ysanne Isard and also as Dark Lady Iceheart, for over three years at the boards; as well as playing her on the servers as well for the past 2 1/2 to three years. Just because I don't usually post here at your board, doesn't mean I am not the character I am portraying. I have never and will never 'clone' another's character.

[tracesha]

You still haven’t linked a thread here at Fans that proves what you are saying.

And the registration date of the character you just posted with is only from the beginning of this year.

Here is a link to the Isard who actually RPs here with a date that very much so supercedes that registration date, made here at SWFans:

pub2.ezboard.com/fswvstit...2440.topic (http://pub2.ezboard.com/fswvstitanicthejedicouncil.showMessage?topicID=244 0.topic)

[ReaperFett]

I have seen the posts the 'other' isard makes and I can tell she obviously doesn't know the character very well at all

ABSOLUTE TRIPE!

She knows shedloads about Isard! I know lots about her too, being as Im a huge X-Wing fan. I will vouch that she knows as much as the next man.

PROVE to me, here and now, that she doesnt know the character. Come on, chop chop

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Why dont you go read threads at RSO, the former Legions board, Hera's old board, Itala's old old board he had about 3 years ago, called TSE as well I believe, the death fleet's boards, shall I go on? I don't see how it matters if I've used Isards nickname of 'Iceheart' or this one to play the char. Point is, I've been playing her for 3 years at the boards and on the server.

[ReaperFett]

Now, when you get done questioning those I named previously, and locating old, old threads, if they still exist, and stop behaving as 7 years who bicker over who has what, let me know.
now now, dont get your panties in a twist


And I am sure soon enough we will see just how much information the 'other' Isard knows about the character.
Yes, I look forward to it



Anyway, answer my question. WHY doesnt she know the character? Come on, back your statement up. You want maturity, lets play maturity. Back up what you said, and dont make it sound like something a ten year old says, where they dont mean it.

[Katya Glasc]

Sorry to put my two cents in on this, but you really do sound like a bunch of kids with nothing better to do than sit here and argue back and forth over who plays what character. I thought this place was suppose to for those who's wonderful storytelling skills are freely expressed in their roleplays for all to enjoy and to possibly participate in.

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Where in any of the books or comic books involving Ysanne Isard, have you ever seen her "walk into a room and wave to so and so with a smile?"

There is an obvious answer to your question.

Now, I still don't see an admin here that I can talk to, is there an email address where I can write to one?

[ReaperFett]

she smiled in both Isard's Revenge and the Bacta War


And if you want their e-mails, look in their profiles. Ogre, FMH, Nup and Dale are the ones you want

[tracesha]

I have seen your threads at other boards under the Iceheart name and it makes me question when exactly Isard became Sith and then turned back to become an Imperial? But other boards are not what we are discussing here, it is this board, SWFans.

The admins can be contaced by various means, which can be acquired by looking up their profiles in the FAQ.

[Jeseth Cloak]

Well, Ysanne, I know the other Isard plays the character quite well, but I also know that there's no need to slander people and talk down others' RPing abilities on the OOC board. It doesn't matter if you think you're a 100 times better than them ( if you want to slander someone's RP abilities, at least do it with good reason, like the rest of us! :D ). The other Isard (who has posted here at SWFans.net actively before I'd even heard of you) not only wouldn't appreciate it, but probably would be less likely to even want to talk to you.

[Director Ysanne Isard]

And when in starwars was there an ape with force powers? (Referring to a char at the TSE) Oh wait, we aren't talking about other boards, we are talking about here.

Please, give it all a rest. What is it you are all getting in an uproar over anyway? I came, I posted a few times for a friend, in a thread that doesn't concern any of you, and I posted twice in the ooc to stand up for them. Suddenly you attack me for doing a few posts at your board with a nickname I've played for the past 3 years, as well as the nickname of the nickname. I certainly don't recall ever posting anywhere asking any of you for your opinions, or your harassment. I will not sit here and justify myself to any of you.

I will contact the admins, thank you and once again, a good day to you.

By the way, nice to see you Katya, I know your name well from a very well known source. Watch out, others here may be prone to attack you if they ever do find out who you are playing.

[tracesha]

You weren't attacked. A question was asked an then you actually attacked someone who is a part of this community and has been for a while, which instigated what is happening now.


I have seen the posts the 'other' isard makes and I can tell she obviously doesn't know the character very well at all

[ReaperFett]

I wouldnt have said a word if you hadnt posted a quite arrogant comment

[Pierce Tondry]

I have seen the posts the 'other' isard makes and I can tell she obviously doesn't know the character very well at all.

That's not a very kind thing to say. You may consider yourself more capable than Mara, but I don't care who you are, if you can't show respect you won't get any from me.

[Director Ysanne Isard]

1. Unlike any of you, I do not rp to earn anyone's respect, quite frankly I dont care what anyone on the net thinks.

2. I didn't slander anyone at all, I simply voiced an opinion from past experience of having posted with the other isard a few times before. It was long ago, and I don't know nor care if she even recalls it.

3. I am not the one who attacked anyone. Personally, I don't even see any reason for this thread anyway since I merely posted in a thread created by a close personal friend of mine whom asked me to post a few times in it.

4. Just because I haven't posted here in the past with this particular nic, doesn't mean I haven't posted here before at all. In fact, I am currently involved in a few threads here under two other nic's I've played for quite some time as well. And no, don't ask me to inform you as to what the nic's are. Its actually none of your business.

5. I truly don't care what the other isard does here. I will say it yet again, I posted a few times for a friend with this nic and I hadn't planned on posting with this nic again unless he asked me to. I also don't see what it matters on how long she's been posting here. Just because I haven't posted here under this nic name before, doesn't mean I haven't been reading any of the threads that are posted here for quite some time now.

6. Funny how you tell me to not get my panties in a bunch, you're all the ones throwing the fit over my nicname, over posting in a thread that didn't concern any one of you, and yet you still continue.

7. One last question... where is this other Isard? she can prove how much she knows about the character by answering one simple question about her. Though, the answer is quite obvious once you notice it, many are not aware of the answer to it.

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Now, are you all still going to continue to argue a moot point over something that really has no effect on anyone here or are you all going to go about your own business and return to your threads?

[ReaperFett]

3. I am not the one who attacked anyone
yes you are the one. Dont act like you came here warm and friendly



6. Funny how you tell me to not get my panties in a bunch, you're all the ones throwing the fit over my nicname, over posting in a thread that didn't concern any one of you, and yet you still continue.

try getting it right. Im annoyed because you basically insulted someone, and so far have based it on the fact she smiled



7. One last question... where is this other Isard?
Holiday



she can prove how much she knows about the character by answering one simple question about her
Im desperate to know said question. Bet Id know :)

[Tirsa Krylana]

Um .. first ... I never asked this to start this insanity and I never did it to slander anyone.

I also meant the clone reference in my first post as a joke so I don't know why that was taken the wrong way. I only asked a simple question wondering a simple answer without so much back and forth.

I know this came up with leia a long time ago and nothing really came of it. Since the same situation again occurred today because of there are now two Isards on the board, I asked.

So if any of these references of being childish are directed at me, I really want to know how asking something in a rather playful and innocent way childish? :mad:

Except that maybe it was playful and innocent :p

[Admiral Jyener]

Like Fett is saying, you're asking for respect but you're not giving it.

[Pierce Tondry]

Now, are you all still going to continue to argue a moot point over something that really has no effect on anyone here or are you all going to go about your own business and return to your threads?

Your attitude makes me inclined to ignore you and go about my business anyway. You called me level-headed in another post, and others have agreed with that. If you don't intend to be respectful to the people you're sharing boardspace with (and I don't mean RP to earn respect, I mean BE a respectful person OOC) then I suggest you leave so as not to cause further friction. There's been enough of that lately, and you claimed not to like it, so there should be no reason to contribute to it further.

[Nupraptor]

Oh, and one more thing, I'd like to be able to speak to someone here in chargeWill I do? :)

And trust me when I say that the other Mods and Admins have been reading this.

I went out for a few hours and it seems that this thread turned into a mini-flame war. Here's my opinion:

I honestly don't see a problem with the both of you playing the same character. As I said: This isn't the first time more than one person tries to play an already established character. But please be aware that Director Isard is a long standing member of the SWFans community, and has long established a presence as the Head of Imperial Intelligence here.

Quite frankly, how long you've roleplayed at other boards is irrelevant. I can say that I've been roleplaying, in one form or another, for almost 7 years now. That has nothing to do with SWFans, however.

I think that, if you want to use the Isard character for the purpose of your own RPs, then there shouldn't be a problem. But please respect the fact that there is someone else who's put a lot of work into developing that character here.

[Ogre Mal Pannis]

I feel you are contradicting your self within this statement after having a look at the thread that you have been posting to with your character:


Please, give it all a rest. What is it you are all getting in an uproar over anyway? I came, I posted a few times for a friend, in a thread that doesn't concern any of you, and I posted twice in the ooc to stand up for them. Suddenly you attack me for doing a few posts at your board with a nickname I've played for the past 3 years, as well as the nickname of the nickname. I certainly don't recall ever posting anywhere asking any of you for your opinions, or your harassment. I will not sit here and justify myself to any of you.

So, you are trying to say that your posts of giving the Guardsmen a SSD (that we aren’t even certain was created according to SWFans standards) so they can head for the Dayark sector, in an open thread in the RP forum, doesn’t effect anyone?

Thread in question: pub2.ezboard.com/fswvstit...3986.topic (http://pub2.ezboard.com/fswvstitanicstarwarsroleplayingarchive.showMessage ?topicID=3986.topic)

I have a feeling that quite a few would disagree with that considering one of the things that is currently taking place in that sector and legally by one of the groups present and well established here at this forum.

I tend to agree with the majority of people here in this thread. You were not attacked, a question was raised and beginning to be discussed, until you came in and started flaming regular posters here. Now in some ways I can see how perhaps you were offended by what was being discussed, but that still gives you no right to flame people here.

[Guardsman Kir Kanos]

The SSD was constructed legally, within SWFans standards. You may speak with Scorpion if you wish. I don't know all of the particulars; he was the one who had the SSD, the Eviscerator built, so I am told.

The 'Guardsmen' aren't a group. If you'd have been following the thread, you would learn I have openly rebuked Palpatine and his ideals. There is no organization within the Imperial Royal Guard. I have headed to Dayark on business. It wasn't a random location choice, nor am I hostile to Death Fleet. Notice my ID there marks me as 'Ally'. Jyener and I have dealings together.

And as far as I am concerned, the whole TSE-infiltration incident never took place. Yes, I'll admit we screwed up/cheated/God-moded, whatever you'd like to call it. I consider that old news. Although Kanos is no friend to the Sith, he certainly harbors no hostilities toward them... or the TSE, for that matter.

I'd like to wipe the slate clean and start afresh, if you're willing.

[Ogre Mal Pannis]

A reasonable and respectful explanation. Thank you.

I did not intend to imply the ‘Guardsmen’ as a group in my post and was referring in a rather general way. I apologize for not being more respectful to individuals, namely you Kanos, in how I stated it.

[Guardsman Kir Kanos]

No trouble. I took no offense on any level, friend.

What I meant by my clarifying that we weren't a organization was that the SSD was under my control, and mine alone. They -- my fellow Royal Guards -- have no hand in its regulation.

[Force Master Hunter]

Good evening Director Isard,

Please be aware I am A SWFans Administrator and so far i am reading this thread with a good deal of disappointment. If you have indeed been around roleplaying for a long time, I would have expected something better.

Your attention is drawn to the following section of the Roleplay FAQ



* Don't expect to be popular if you come in thinking you are the best and blare it out. There are people here who have seen that hundreds of times, and they won't think much of you. Also, if you are an apprentice, dont expect to have the abilities equivalent of a Master. Common sense tells us you can't. The best roleplayers learn as they play. They slowly develop their characters, allowing them to grow over time. That adds fun and realism to the whole experience.



I would believe this is the reason you have people riled up and after reading this thread I can understand why my AIM ran hot when I logged on. The Guardsmen have already have been asked to take this into consideration and have responded well in return.

I would ask you also follow their quite commendible example.

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Uhhh, excuse me but actually I did come here in a friendly manner and posted for a friend in his thread, you were the ones who got all uppity over my character. Now, I have repeated myself over and over yet not one of you seems to be able to read clearly. My fleet and the SSD in question was actually rp'd out and commissioned properly by any boards standards and you are more than welcome to ask Scorpion on that matter as well as Jyener who heads, or use to head, the Death Fleet. It's been a while since I've seen him so I don't know if he still runs it or not.

The way the question was stated in the first place certainly made it appear that there was a problem with my posting in a friends thread a few times to help him out with his rp. I certainly didn't violate any of your standards or rules by posting in his thread with a fleet I acquired over a year ago through proper posts and channels. Scorpion had my fleet posted on a site as well, but has moved it and hasn't been able to recall to where he moved it to. The next time I see Jyener, I will ask him if he knows where my fleets information is at. Unfortunately, I had contracted a computer virus and had to get my harddrive wiped, causing me to lose the information as well.

I truly do not care what it is you expected of me after having rp'd for so many years. I certainly didn't expect to be questioned as to the credibility of my char, who is the 'real' isard and who isnt and I honestly dont care about YOUR isard. She doesnt concern me. I came, posted a few times for a friend, and then this bs. I dont post at any board with the intent of impressing anyone, as I truly do not care. I post to rp out a character and have fun with participating in telling a story or part of one. And to be honest, I dont care if you are disappointed at all in this. I've seen so much OOC BS over the past three years over the stupid nitpicking of things done that I normally don't partake in it.

Looks like we all disappointed each other. Do I care? No. Name Isard's alias..should be simple enough. And no, the alias is not Iceheart.

I certainly did not come here an expect to be the best as I only posted here for a friend. So don't tell me I broke any of your rules or standards with the two posts I made in their thread, since I didn't. And if any one of you had bothered to read the thread closely, including my two posts..you would notice that I didn't RP my char as the standing Director of Imperial Intelligence. I stated facts pertaining to the past then to the current time frame within that thread, specifically that she had been living a quiet life off at an undisclosed location for quite sometime since the Empire fell and her time to lead it had past.

Now, for the last time, as I have stated over and over again that has obviously been overlooked because you are too busy nitpicking ppls words in their posts just looking for a way to continue this... so pay close attention...

I posted twice for a friend in their thread. I rp'd out my part correctly and well within your rules and standards. My fleet is legal at any boards standards and has been for over a year.

I suggest you go back and re-read the two whole posts I made for them and end this. My char left at the end of her 2nd post and she certainly wont be posting again here as this nic UNLESS she is asked to by her friends. Is there a problem with that?

I certainly did not come here and post in anyone's rp thread other than the one I was asked to post in. I did in fact come here in a friendly manner and didn't appreciate the question pertaining to the character based on the fact that the way it was posed certainly implied TO ME, stating my own feeling on the question, that I had to defend the credibility of my character and my fleet. And as you stated, I too, worked very hard over the past three years to get my character where she is; as I do with any character I play. Not once did my character pose any threat to the other Isard who rp's here as that char on a regular basis.

[Morgan Evanar]

I truly do not care what it is you expected of me after having rp'd for so many years. I certainly didn't expect to be questioned as to the credibility of my char, who is the 'real' isard and who isnt and I honestly dont care about YOUR isard. She doesnt concern me.
and

Not once did my character pose any threat to the other Isard who rp's here as that char on a regular basis.

My big, almighty question is, why did you attack her writing, and tout yours as superiour?

Moving along now, I wouldn't want to babble too much...



I did in fact come here in a friendly manner and didn't appreciate the question pertaining to the character based on the fact that the way it was posed certainly implied TO ME, stating my own feeling on the question, that I had to defend the credibility of my character and my fleet.

If you don't intend on roleplaying here, what is there to defend? (it is indeed possible I missed something here.)


And as you stated, I too, worked very hard over the past three years to get my character where she is; as I do with any character I play.

And you didn't do it here. So whats the point in bringing this up?

I'm really tired of you wasting our time. And you may want to remember that the admins can tell when you post under a different account from the same computer.

[Lady DeVille]

Well well well.

Wow.

This thread is really really really really....


.....long. :)

Director Ysanne Isard, I have no problem with you using that nickname, none whatsoever. It just happens, at least for me, to make things very confusing when more than one person is playing the exact same character.

Especially when one of those persons has been at the board posting actively for some time, and developing said character. The Isard we know even had an Imp Intel board (I know, we're really talking about swfans here, not other boards...but hear me out) with several different members. She really RPs as the Director of Imperial Inteligence. And Pierce Tondry is her second in command...he made some comments earlier in this thread.

I first posted here with an innocent question, I didn't know if you were intending on continuing to post here as Isard, or whether you are here as a one time thing. It seems awkward to me to have two separate people playing exactly the same character. *shrugs*

ANYway, all of this becomes sort of a moot point to ME, when you start blasting away with both barrels at people who have been here a lot longer than you have. (this board, again, not other boards.) Being fair, and having a sense of fair play, or having respect for fellow human beings (and aliens, I'm not sure what ReaperFett really is... ;) ) sort of precludes having tempermental outbursts of irrational anger.

I didn't see anything that was threatening to you before you began "ranting" (my word, I confess, others may see it differently), but after that I did see that the attitude of this thread became decidedly more hostile towards you.

However...I think I had a point, but since I've been away from the computer while typing this (to check on my cheesecakes that are in the oven...now out of the oven...smelling DE-licious) I have completely forgotten it. I hope that something came out of this that made sense. :)

[Rama Sha]

Itala's old old board he had about 3 years ago, called TSE as well I believe


*Promtoly drops dead of a massive heart attack, among other things.* X_X


Can't believe she said that!!!!!!

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Wow, you people are really big on filling your responses with quotes aren't ya?

Going back to the very first page of this thread, you can quite clearly see that I didn't even comment in until several other posts had been made. A few hinted or accused me as being a 'clone' of the Isard that RP's here and another asked something along the lines of if my Isard nic would be made to rp the char differently or killed off for lack of a better term, when it was mentioned that the clones should be killed off. Now, I don't know about any of you, but had they been talking about your character, don't you think you'd get on the defensive over seeing things like that? Especially if you just came here to post a few times for some friends of yours with the intent of NOT using the char here again unless asked too?

As stated, I am not the one who started 'attacking' anyone first.

Ok, maybe I need to go a bit slower in all of this so that certain people finally understand what has been said REPEATEDLY by myself, which most of you so conveniently seem to overlook.

1. I didnt say I didnt intend on never posting here again. I said I didnt intend to ever post here using THIS nic name again UNLESS a friend asked me to post in one of their threads.

Are we clear on this point yet?

2. I know that the admins can see who is posting under what nic and I really dont care, as long as people can separate characters. So what exactly is your point in even stating that the admins can do that?

My point in stating that I wouldn't inform anyone as to what nics I may be playing at the same board, not only here but at other boards as well, is plain and simple. Its no one's business but my own whom I play. If I want others to know whom I am playing, that is MY business to tell them, and not anyone else's. I see no point in why anyone would even care as to who is playing what character or if they are playing multiple characters at one board.

3. I won't even touch Rama's oh so whitty little post that contains yet another quote.

4. The Isard that is a regular here is registered as Director Isard. I dont think it is too hard to see that mine is registered as Director Ysanne Isard. Maybe the difference in the name would have been the first clue that I am not the Isard who rp's here as Isard on a regular basis.

5. If the admins have been reading this since the beginning, then why didn't one of them just compare the IP addy's of the two Isards then simply state that they are not the same? Seems to me somebody could have done that. Had I not taken the question posed as an attack as to my characters credibility and history, maybe I even would have stated it. But, the way I took the question, prevented me from doing that. So sue me.

6. I don't see how it matters if a person has spent weeks, months or years establishing a character at THIS board. Just because they didn't do it here, doesn't mean they didn't work just as hard or even harder elsewhere. The statement that read something along the lines of "Well you didn't do it here", pertaining to the time spent on developing a character, makes it sound as if you think your board is superior to all others and that if a char hasn't spent the time to do it here, then it's not credible.

Now, do I really have to say it again as to why I even came here in the first place? And how my char rp'd her leaving until called upon again in her second post at the Guardsmen thread? And how she NEVER once stated that she was even claiming to be the Director of Imperial Intelligence of this board? I certainly hope not because this is becoming quite tedious.

My friends, whose thread I posted a whole two times in, know me as the Director of Imperial Intelligence from the servers as well as from a few other boards. NOT ONCE did I ever claim to be the Director of Imperial Intelligence at THIS board. Get that straight.

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Perhaps I shouldn't have stated one of my opinions so bluntly so I will apologize for that.

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As for hostility, I hold none. If any of these statements seem that way to you there is really nothing I can do about that.

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Here is the next question: Is the next response to this post going to contain any quotes??

[ReaperFett]

Here is the next question: Is the next response to this post going to contain any quotes??
Yes



I am not the one who started 'attacking' anyone first
So, the fact we didnt actually criticise you at any time, and THEN you insulted someones RPing ability, doesnt count as attacking?

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Well, I can see apologies are overlooked as well as other important factors in ppls posts. Well, I only apologize for something once, I won't repeat it. Since you are all so big on quotes, here's a few for you.

Quote

"Well...we could kill the clones & let the originals live..."

Quote

"So, does that mean that Del's Isard gets to stay, and the other has to either play her as a different Isard, or leave??"

As stated before, being called, or accused of being a clone is an attack. No, I didn't start attacking anyone first. And, as stated numerous times already which you can clearly go read for yourself, I did play Isard as a different char...the one who had quietly retired from being the Director of Imperial Intelligence who was now living a quiet life at an undisclosed location. CLEARLY STATED IN TWO POSTS MADE AT ANOTHER THREAD!!!

I never claimed to be "your" Director of Imperial Intelligence in either of the posts I had made. Perhaps you should go back and re-read them, yet again.

[ReaperFett]

allow me to requote you


I never claimed to be "your" Director of Imperial Intelligence in either of the posts I had made. Perhaps you should go back and re-read them, yet again.

Perhaps you should go back and re-read, and see I never said you did

[Director Ysanne Isard]

And as you can see, I didn't say that YOU had said it. Did I name any names as to who did say that? No, I did not. Therefore, since you and I are both well aware that it wasn't you who said that, why would you even bother to post that?

Are you finished yet?

Seems to me like you want nothing more than to continue this and drag it on..still.

[Vega Van Derveld]

6. I don't see how it matters if a person has spent weeks, months or years establishing a character at THIS board. Just because they didn't do it here, doesn't mean they didn't work just as hard or even harder elsewhere.

You see, that's the thing. I'm going to take your way of thinking here, and repeat something that has already been said.

This is a seperate board to other boards. SWFans community is, as far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), not linked to any other SW communities in anyway. We split from TGC/TMC who were once merged with us, and now they have their own galaxy, as do we. The people there are given respect by roleplayers here - where it is due - as they were once part of our community.

You could spend your whole life roleplaying at another community, star wars or not, and come to SWfans only to be given the respect of a basic level character. That's how it works here. I believe in another topic like this one with the 'Guardsmen' involved someone mentioned the fact that if Stephen King decided to join here, he'd be nothing more than a basic Padawan or Disciple.

This is my point. You may be the worlds greatest writer (I know you didn't say that or imply that, I'm simply using it as an example) and have had eons of roleplaying experience elsewhere, but to the people of SWFans.net community, you just another new starter.

I hope that all made sense and I didn't repeat too many people too many times - slightly doubtful.

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Wow, thanks for that little bit of info that has already been stated and that I already knew long ago. I see there is no end to this, still.

Vega, go read the posts I've made in here again. As you can see, this char never intended to post here again unless she was called upon by her friends to do so. I never once stated that I wasn't seen as a newbie here and I truly dont care. But it certainly wasn't right for the others to deny my chars credibility in a thread she posted in twice for friends, simply because she doesn't normally rp here under this nic. It wasnt right for them to begin accusing her of being a clone as well, and then to proceed in suggesting the 'clone' be killed off. Now, I already apologized for the mistake I had made waaaayyyyy back at the beginning of this, after I had already been attacked before I ever knew this thread existed.

I never read the other forums here, only the rpg one. The only reason I even bothered to post twice before in the OOC was when someone showed me what was being said about two friends of mine, and I certainly didn't disrespect anyone in those two posts.

Then I was told to come back to the OOC forum and read what was being said about my character and I didn't take too kindly to being accused of being a clone and then being threatened to have my char 'killed' off.

NOW ARE WE DONE WITH THIS???

[Seth Darkserpent]

and I didn't take too kindly to being accused of being a clone and then being threatened to have my char 'killed' off.

It was simply a joke :) . Also there are rules that inhibit others from killing a character off, unless the person that plays that character gives them permission to do so.

[Vega Van Derveld]

*follows suit*


Wow, thanks for that little bit of info that has already been stated and that I already knew long ago. I see there is no end to this, still.

I believe freedom of speech is allowed here. I was simply putting across my views.

You have done the same for the past however many posts, therefore I believe I am entitled to do so in one post.

[Director Ysanne Isard]

Here we go yet again...

I never stated that you couldn't exercise your freedom of speech. Do not imply that I did, and yes, you did imply that.

I also recall asking repeatedly if you all were done with this bs yet?

Apparently not.

Well, you all converse amongst yourselves then. One party that was involved with this, unwillingly, has already been spoken to. SO, I ask again... Are you all done with this?

[Tirsa Krylana]

Obviously, some people have no humor because ... once again ... I meant the clone thing as a joke

One tends to use the emoticon :p when meaning a joke :|

Also, the only purpose of my original question.. yes question, not flaming, not insulting nothing even related to what is going on in this thread was simply ... how do we handle when people wish to play the same character that has been established in the SW universe.

I thought that was made quite clear but I guess someone took offense to a simply question that didnt even come close to slandering <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

And to emphasize once again ... I took this opportunity to bring up the same question when there were alot of Leia's around since it happened again now! Ysanne ... you were the catalyst for the question because it can be and is confusing when more then one Leia, Luke, Isard, Vader etc shows up. Nuff said.

[Jedi Order Holocron]

But Vader can't show up :p He died :p

[GuardPiett]

Mara's Isard smiles, and your's was a Sith? Don't point any fingers, because three point back at you.

[Force Master Hunter]

I'm sick and tired of seeing this one side flame fest. There is only one person causing trouble here and frankly, I'm becoming completely jack of this.

Have a guess what I'm about to do once this post is finished.