Oh dear god....you thought the title Phantom Menance was bad

[Jedah Lynch]

www.starwars.com/episode-...10806.html (http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html)

Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones.

Its offical.

Lucas is gone nuts

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

When Clones Attack!!

[Twins Of Mythos]

Would you like me to sick the twins on 'im.......?

:: holds back the rabid Mythosians ::

[Captain Joachim Fena]

I like it...it stays in spirit with the Pulp Sci-fi style of the originals. Calling it "Star Wars: Clone Wars" is a bit redundant, if you ask me <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

Feh...nobody will every be satisfied.

[Morgan Evanar]

I never found SW to be that pulp...

I doubt I'm going to bother seeing that in the theater... sounds about as good as "Mars Attacks!"

[Force Master Hunter]

Oh yeah, and The Empire Strikes Back was the paragon of movie titles.

It fits, doesnt it? The Empire Strikes Back / The Attack Of the Clones. Just as bad as each other / corny too.

The thing is, we KNOW how good ESB is. Maybe AOTC will be similar.

[Sanis Prent]

Featuring a scruffy and unknown spice smuggler from Nar Shadaa....how can it go wrong :D

[Clive Jerrard]

dear lord... there goes the Universe... :p

sig is too big

[Force Master Hunter]

Anakin: Quick, send in the clones
Obi-Wan: Don't bother, they're here
Lucas: Isn't it rich, isn't it queer, Losing my timing so late in my career
SW Fans: There ought to be clones
Lucas and Fox Studios:: Well maybe next year

[Force Master Hunter]

And I can see it now.......

Millions of sheep named dolly attack tatooine. All is feared lost, until Anakin decides to release his killer blue heeler to save the day

[Force Master Hunter]

Yaknow, if they just call it "Send in the Clones" they can fire John Williams and use pre-existing music...

...imagining a full orchestra with Krusty singing...

[ReaperFett]

I utterly hate it. Its bad in that B-Movie way, but not even funny in that Attack of the Flesh Devouring Space Worms From Outer Space (199:cool: way. Its just BAD. Its the first name Ive disliked, it has no mystery. A New Hope could have been about Luke, Ben or the Death Star blowing up. Empire Strikes Back could have been Hoth, Han, or the more psychological strike on Luke. Return of the Jedi could just be Lukes back, or that the Jedi would once again rise to glory. Attack of the Clones doesnt say that for me. It just says this is where the Clone Wars are, and thats it.



Having said that, I want the film to be good. Who cares about its name?

[Jedah Lynch]

It does sound like the title was made in the 60's or 70's. Who's making this thing? Ed Wood?

No doubt fox will make special use of the title to fit in with their fine upstanding programing.

Tonight on FOX its a special hour of when Animals Attack! Followed by when Babies Attack! Followed by another hour of Animals Attack! Then its the premiere of Attack of the Clones! IN 3-D!!!!! Then Worlds Scariest Police Chases and When Network Execs Attack!

[ReaperFett]

and then when agitated viewers attacK:)

[Firebird1]

*Realizes that these people have never heard of Star Trek: The Motion Picture.*

Star Wars was written in the 1970's...so yes it will have a bad ie retro title.

[Ryu Warusa]

::Kills Lucas and everyone involved in the new Star Wars movie in a drunken stupor::

[Nupraptor]

Who's making this thing? Ed Wood?:x :x :x

Plan 9!

::retches::

[Live Wire]

YUCK!!!! What is lucas thinking! That sounds like a freaking B movie if I have ever heared one. They can shelve that crap right next to attack of the killer tomatos! That title better change cause it sucks! Sure the other titles havent been proufound but he can do better then that!

[Lady DeVille]

Hmmm...Mars Attacks...Attack of the Killer Tomatos.... *sees all her AIM quips here in posts* PLAGURIZERS! You're lucky I can't spell that! ;)

No no, you know what? When George Lucas gave us Jar Jar, we made excuses for him. What we SHOULD have been doing is having him committed. He's finally lost it.

Thankfully, I'm being hired on by Lucas to doctor the script and title of the next, third and last Film. Timothy Zahn is going to be my consultant. The third one will ROCK!

All that said, it doesn't really matter what the title is. I'm still going to see it, and I'm just going to pretend in my head that the title is different....That Lucas didn't let Jake Lloyd name Ep. 2. I'll imagine that the title is.... Star Wars: Attack of the Stupid Titles...

[ReaperFett]

Timothy Zahn is going to be my consultant

Do NOT let HIM near EP3!

[Nupraptor]

Why? Afraid it will be good? :p

[Morgan Evanar]

I've always been of the opinion Fett likes bad movies and bad litterature...

[ReaperFett]

and Im of the opinion youre wrong

[Nupraptor]

I say this very hesitantly, as I can't remember where I read it, but I recall hearing something about Zahn lending a hand with Episodes 5&6. If so, then I think he should have everyone's vote of confidence.

[Rama Sha]

Nope nope nope.......just gonna believe that it's title to throw off the fans so the real title will be surprise..........yep.....that's what it is. Yep......:|

[Nupraptor]

:: Pets Rama on the head and gives him a biscuit ::

It'll all be alright. It's all going to be ok. :| :/ :|

[Rama Sha]

:: looks at Biscuit ::


I want a cookie! :|

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

gives rama a kebler elf :)

[Ron Thrawn]

That was Disturbing.
I think if we all E-Mail Lucasfilm, they might change it.
Whos with me!

[Figrin D an]

Okay guys, when you calm down a bit, try thinking about it from this perspective....

How different is that name from any of the other films titles?
'The Empire Strikes Back?' 'Return of the Jedi?' 'The Phantom Menace?' They're all typical names that you would expect to find from old Saturday morning serials, the same ones that Lucas modeled 'Star Wars' after in the first place.

Think about the name 'Star Wars' itself... put aside all of our preconcieved notions about that name and you find the same thing... it screams chessy '50's sci-fi bad 'B' drama.

I'm not defending Lucas by any means... he's quite capable of doing that himself. All I'm saying is that the title 'Attack of the Clones' isn't that different from any of the other film titles. They're all lame titles, it's just that we know that ESB, ROTJ, ANH, etc. are good films, so we don't place so much emphasis on a title...

[Force Master Hunter]

And that's basically what I try to point out! What's different between Attack of the Clones and any other SW title?!?!

NONE!!! They are all cheesy, they are all not exactly highlights of deep thinking - they are however titles to QUITE GOOD MOVIES!!!

I'm not emailing Lucas becuase Attack if the Clones is 100% a Star Wars name and i quite damn well like it, now I've thought about it. i'm not signing any stupid petition either.

I've seen nothing apart from "IT SUCKS" comments in the negative, no reasons why. YET, I have seen some very good ones like what Figrin posted.

And no one has answered why The Empire Stirkes Back isn't the same as Attack of the Clones. They are both silly, cheesy, really silly titles, BUT THEY FIT.

I look forward to watching the opening scroll with Episode II : Attack of the Clones as the header.

[Lady DeVille]

You know, you're absolutely right. *pushes button to call in the people from the funny farm for Figrin D'an and FMH* :) :)

Actually, you DO have a point. But Attack of the Clones just seems blatant about the campiness of the title....its a bitter pill for me to swallow.

[ReaperFett]

Next person to say calm down to me WILL get an e-slap.

I was about the first here to hear about it. And its still an awful name. Empire Strikes Back is thought provoking. This isn't.

Its an awful name. on a scale of 1-10, its a 2 at best


And FMH, what you said was TOTAL BS. Me and Nup have gave total opinions. Most likers just say "Calm DOwn" or "Well, ESB wasnt very good, was it?". Maybe youre the one who should get a decent argument.



DONT ANNOY ME WHEN IVE JUST GOT UP! :)

[Nupraptor]

I've seen nothing apart from "IT SUCKS" comments in the negative, no reasons whyThen you haven't bothered reading any of my posts.

Reposted for the 2nd time:


"The Phantom Menace" is at least ambiguous and subtle: It could be interpreted many different ways. "Attack of the Clones" is neither. It's utter crap. It is, in fact, one of the worst titles I've ever heard for a movie.

I keep hearing people try to compare it to ESB. I don't think that ESB was a bad title in the least. If it were, don't you think that someone would have brought it up before? No one ever even thought twice about it before. No one has even thought to critiscize any of the other titles before this.

[ReaperFett]

TPM wasnt the most popular of titles, but it wasnt THIS badly recieved.

Also, with TPM, there was still the speculation. WHO was the phantom menace?

Maul?
Palpatine?
Sidious?
Anakin?
The Trade Federation?
The Empire on the horizon?
The ways of the Jedi?

what does Attack of the Clones say? That clones attack. WOAH! Get out the detective hat Sherlock, we have a case to work out the meaning of this!

[Nupraptor]

In short, I don't like the title "Attack of the Clones" For two main reasons:

A) It holds no abiguity to it

B) "Attack of the _______" is a very clichéd format for the name of the movie, having been used for dozens of B-Movies that all bombed.

[Nichos Marr]

We all know the Phantom Menace was Maul :p . Well, at least *I* think that. Maul was indeed a "menace" working for Darth Sidious. Sidious was known to the Trade Federation Viceroy and higher ups, along with a few battle droid captains. Maul was kept hidden, until instructed to aid the Trade Federation in their fight for Naboo.

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with the current discussion, but I was bored. :)

[ReaperFett]

but couldnt it be Sidious, who is hidden? Or maybe the Sith, who were thought dead but arent, like a Phantom

[Nupraptor]

We all know the Phantom Menace was MaulActually, that was one way I never interpreted it. I thought that the "Phantom Menace" was meant to look like it was Palpatine, manipulating things from the Shadows. And that it was, in actuality, Anakin. He is the wildcard in everything. Hence, why he is the "Phantom (or unknown) Menace".

[Ron Thrawn]

At first Glimpse, it seams to be Maul, Look at it closer, and its Palpatine (It doesnt take Einstien to know he is Sidiouse.), but it is the Sith in General.
Thought to be dead, but not completly, like a phantom, or ghost, almost dead, thought to be totaly, and are definantly a Menace.

[Nichos Marr]

It seems that the Phantom Menace could mean the Sith in general, and I'd like to believe that. Although I interpreted the title relating to Maul since he was more of a phantom then Sidious. Sidious didn't work as much in the shadows as Maul did.

But it DOES make more sense if the title was referring to the Sith in general.

Attack of the Clones is a little too blunt for my liking.

[Dalethria Mal Pannis]

I am on Nup's line of thought. Would think of better reply but I got a headache.

[Resanul Kurtz]

Ok lets just lay it all out on the table...Lucas is a good storywriter. Captured the imaginations of millions. Created a whole new world for us. Without him we wouldn’t be here right now. He is good at making up group’s names (the Jedi or the Sith). Ok he needs to work on last names (solo, skywalker, darklighter). But we have all figured out by now that he isn’t so hot at making titles for his movies. But cut him a break he made three great movies and Jar Jar Binks. Now, what do you think the title of the next movie will be? I think it will go along the lines of “Star Wars III: The Sith Emerge”

[Lady DeVille]

Star Wars Episode Three: The Extermination of all the Jedi Until There Are Only FOUR Left, Including Amidala's Infant Twins, Yoda, and Obi-Wan (He Will Go By Ben in The Next Movie)

*sigh*

Attack of the Clones!? I agree with Nup. It leaves NOTHING to the imagination.

[Rama Sha]

You see how they discuss what the Phantom Menace meant. You can't do this with this title. Watch:

"Well do you think Anakin was the clone attacking? "


"I always thought that Obi-Wan was the attacking clone. "


"Thats a good point. Obi-wan=OB-1 and he attacked a lot of things. "


"Im still gonna go with my gut and say that Luke and Leia are the attacking clones!"


See Just doesn't work.

[Jeseth Cloak]

I'm fairly certain that Boba Fett is the attacking clone. :D


Nah... I have no idea.

[Jedi Order Holocron]

(A holographic image of a tree-like creature appeared from the cubic holocron.)

"Oh, if you would like I could pull up a list of attacking clones and post them here, or email them on request."

(It spun toward DeVille.)

"There were more then four Jedi left, as shown in many tales belonging to the Expanded Universe."

Edit- Adding to post.

[Nupraptor]

A talking Holocron? o_O

[Jedi Order Holocron]

Holocrons possess Gatekeepers (Jedi Masters). Certain Jedi Masters instill their memories into the Holocron. Hence, the holocron is able to answer questions and relay pictures from memory, such as the person could do if they were alive. This certain holocron is inhabited by Jedi Master Ood Bnar.

[Nupraptor]

Sorry, I misunderstood that as the Holocron itself talking and spinning about, not the image of the Gatekeeper. :|

[Jedi Order Holocron]

Perhaps I should've elaborated ^_^;

EDIT- My spelling isn't what it once was.

[Nupraptor]

Interesting idea... playing a Holocron. Props.

[Lady DeVille]

Oh dear God, and you thought that a talking Jawa was bad. Now we have holocrons!? lol

Extended Universe? *pfft*

No no, I was referring to the only other Jedi we see in the movies, of course. but why am I saying this? I was only making up a title to poke more fun at ep. 2, which is what I think I'm going to call it. Episode 2.

[ReaperFett]

Dont you be dissing X-Wing now LD, therell be pain

[Jedi Order Holocron]

LD- Shush! :p I DO have a purpose :)

[Lady DeVille]

Suuuuure, that's what they ALL say. *whistles a little tune*

[Rama Sha]

I WANNA PLAY A LIGHTSABER! :D



:: Jumps onto the gorund and Makes Humming a swishing noises. ::