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Pierce Tondry
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:08:04 AM
Name Isard's alias..should be simple enough. And no, the alias is not Iceheart.

I don't know if this ever got answered, but being a bit of a trivia buff at times, I felt compelled to post on it.

Iceheart is a nickname given to her by the Rebellion. As such, there's only one of Isard's aliases ever mentioned. The alias in question was Darkknell Special Security Agent Katya Glasc.

It comes from the spectacular short story Interlude at Darkknell which was co-written by the ever-excellent Timothy Zahn and his comrade-in-arms, Michael Stackpole. Interlude appears in the book of short stories "Star Wars: Tales from the New Republic". If you haven't read it, you won't be familiar with this info.

Nupraptor
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:11:02 AM
Whatever you say, Volume #2.

Pierce Tondry
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:15:09 AM
Whatever I say? All right!

I say Nupraptor is a noodlehead! :p

Delirion
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:17:43 AM
Well, it's originally been scheduled for publication in the Star Wars Adventure Journals, but they stopped publishing them along with everything else when WEG closed down, so then the story we're talking about appeared as a Special in the Tales...

Nupraptor
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:18:28 AM
<img src=http://www.nosgoth.net/Blood_Omen/dialogue/nuphead.jpg>

Yes, yes he is. =P

Dalethria Mal Pannis
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:19:26 AM
serious, not serious, serious, not serious.

AAAHHHH!!!!

Lady DeVille
Aug 13th, 2001, 12:43:09 AM
Hey, want to know something else? I bought (for less than a dollar each at Goodwill [thrift store]) an illustrated Empire Strikes Back comic-book. Not a conventional comic, but an actual bound paper back book comic version of the fifth SW movie. It was published in 1979 or right around there. I also got a very early Han Solo adventure, pub. 1979-80 and a book containing Four New Adventures about Luke Han and Leia (also comics) from 1979.

I'm pretty excited about them. Talk about EU...!

edit: EV? What the frell is that?! EU was what I meant... :rolleyes:

Delirion
Aug 13th, 2001, 04:10:17 AM
@#%$... don't tell me that's a first Edition of the Han Solo Adventures Book? Not sure if you meant Comic with that, because I've never heard of a Han Solo Adventures Comic besides "Han Solo at Star's End". If it's the book, and not the comic, and happens to be a 1st Edition.... you wouldn't possible sell me that one? :p

Director Ysanne Isard
Aug 13th, 2001, 04:27:44 AM
*Is here under friendly terms so please dont bite my head off*

I posed the question to name Isards alias, not her nickname as was stated in the post that asked the question. An alias is not a nickname and I had stated that it wasn't iceheart as that is her nickname.

I like trivia too, so the answer to the question, or actually statement, I guess one might call it, is this:

Her alias was Katya Glasc.


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Glasc, Katya
this was the alias used by Ysanne Isard while on the planet Darkknell, searching for the stolen plans to the first Death Star. Glasc was supposedly a member of the Darkknell Special Security team. ( TFNR ) *notes the site this was found at is*

http://www1.theforce.net/CUSWE/search.asp?search=Katya+Glasc&EandD=EyDn

I'm not sure if this will take you directly to the page, but I c/p'd the URL for you.


Ysanne Isard, daughter of Emperor Palpatine's last Internal Security Director. She later betrayed her father to Palpatine, claiming that he was going to defect to the Alliance. Palpatine had her father executed - some say she was the person who shot him - and promoted her to his vacate position; earning herself the nickname of 'Iceheart' and was later promoted to Director of Imperial Intelligence. (this was the entry for Isard, Ysanne in the same encyclopedia found at the same site posted above before they changed the encyclopedia over to its new format, just a note)


Now, before anyone gets upset with me, yes, I did register the nic of Katya Glasc with ezboard as a global account and I did post here a few times with it. I do not intend to join any groups with that said nic nor to post here with it. I did that as a little 'test' of sorts. The only way I will use that nic here or to join a group is if the people can separate characters. And, when the nic Katya Glasc asked if it was ok to portray the character as something different, perhaps a kind of 'what if' situation with the character, the reply was yes.

If no one here, or at any possible groups would have a problem with my using that nic name to rp with at the boards, I would like to do just that, only this would be the difference....

Instead of being raised in Imperial Service and serving the Empire as it states in the entry above, I'd like to portray her as having been orphaned by her father, or perhaps by her mother since nothing is really known about Isard's mother, and to have her have aided the alliance or something else. She'd never be claiming or aiming for the position of Director here or at any other board, as I'd like to play out a 'what if this had happened to this character instead of....' ..that is the situation I'd like to rp out with the nic name.


*Note, there are a few more aliases of hers, and this page didn't load all the way for me when I first posted this, so I hadn't seen Pierce Tondry's post...sorry about that*

Delirion
Aug 13th, 2001, 04:51:12 AM
Correct me if I get this wrong, but you wish to use the name Katya Glasc as a name for a character which is based on Ysanne Isard's past? The character would follow a path that is more or less contrary to everything Ysanne ever was, and will not have anything to do with Ysanne Isard as such, apart from sharing the same parents (or one parent - whatever way you choose); it will not claim any allegiance to ImpIntel or any other Imperial Factions, or use any of the scenarios described in any of the EU books pertaining to the original Ysanne Isard (inclusive of her clone)?

If the character really does not have anything to do with Isard besides the name - a name that Isard used as an alias on one world (which does not exclude the possibility that there is a person of the same name existent in the SW Galaxy somewhere) and never used again during any other operation - then why make such a drama out of it now? Or even insist on using a name that has anything to do with Isard? If it were only my own opinion, I don't have anything against it, apart from thinking this is a quite nonsensical matter. Why, if you know that there might be a problem of any kind, after you saw what the entire Isard issue brought out the last time, does it have to be a character using any name to do with her?

I think you could have gone ahead here and used that name with the background you described, and no one would have noticed. It sounds like any other background to any other character around here - if you choose to make a big issue out of it by insisting to give the character a name that has been used by another EU character, I don't think anyone would stop you. I simply don't understand why any other name - a name you come up with yourself, as you came up with the different background for her - would not do much better than using a name that already has a history to it, even if it is only an alias.

That's my take on it, as the original active Isard around here. The decision on this matter would depend as much on the Admins and Mods here as on everyone else, so don't go by my word alone.

Director Ysanne Isard
Aug 13th, 2001, 06:05:47 AM
I merely pointed out a few possible alternatives, i didnt say that the 'what if' was the one i would do. I had asked in another thread if its ok to use the nic but have it actually have nothing to do with the person who's alias it was .. Like i said, i was only asking a question and pointing out different ideas. You know what, forget it, seems like no matter what I ask around here will just simply be shut down. See ya

Ace Roscoe
Aug 13th, 2001, 08:02:28 AM
This whole thing have been blown out of all proportions.

I am very tempted to leave with my friend, Director Ysanne Isard, but I have obligations to other players to fulfill in my ongoing roleplay here. Not that it would make any difference to you, since I am new to this board, but out of principle.

Daemon Hyfe
Aug 14th, 2001, 02:08:30 AM
Boobies.

Delirion
Aug 14th, 2001, 02:25:08 AM
:lol:

Lady DeVille
Aug 14th, 2001, 03:54:08 AM
Um, didn't Pierce say that was what her alias was? *checks* yes, yes he did.

Del, that would be Han Solo's Revenge by Brian Daley, and I think it is a second edition, printed October 1980. It is not a comic, but the other two are.

How much would you give me for it...hypothetically if I sold it to you...? ;)

Daemon Hyfe
Aug 15th, 2001, 01:18:35 AM
I'll give you 17 cents. Hypothetically.

Lady DeVille
Aug 15th, 2001, 01:19:28 AM
:lol:

Daemon Hyfe
Aug 15th, 2001, 01:21:51 AM
Take note that's two " :lol: "s I've gotten in a row.

I'm a funny guy.