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Ogre Mal Pannis
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:18:38 PM
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How about you explain exactly what kind of railgun fires like a semi automatic, with no delay between shots and no powder burns?

I suspect there are a couple people here who could explain to you that a railgun is not a light blaster type weapon and doesn't fire like a sub machine gun.

Sorsha Kasajian
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:25:20 PM
And please tell me why your totally ignoring the powder burns you just suffered from my attack?

ReaperFett
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:28:54 PM
Ogre, sub machine guns arent semi automatic :)

Ogre Mal Pannis
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:34:13 PM
Okay, well his post looks like it was bordering between semi and fully automatic. does a rail gun do that? I sure don't think so, nor is one generally a pistol sized weapon you just whip out of a holster. More like Heft on its strap.

You were one of the authorities in regards to weapons I was speaking of. :)

Hwoarang
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:38:06 PM
sorry Ogre. My railgun is a special NRSF type that FMH designed. Called the over and under railgun. Over=blaster and under=railgun. I thought that it was an automatic. FMH will have to clear this up. And Sorsha, sorry, I will go back and edit it.

I knew it wasnt wise to go all eggroll on Dumah at the beginning!

Liam Jinn
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:38:59 PM
Damn straight!

Hwoarang
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:44:03 PM
Maybe I should go all eggroll on Liam :p

Nupraptor
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:48:57 PM
FYI - If you're going to use a weapon, you better darn well know exactly how it works.

Hwoarang
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:52:32 PM
I thought I did then Ogre had a problem with it.

Captain Tohmahawk
Sep 5th, 2001, 09:58:55 PM
Rail Gun

Design and use principles

Rail Gun

The Rail Gun only exists as electro magnetic firing princilpe exists in Star Wars, as been seen by the Wookiee Bowcaster, which uses this idea to fire it's quarrel (Not seen in movies, sources from Star wars Encylopedia).

The pistol hand held rail gun is as large as you can get and have a holster. It's spec is 30 odd cm long and is not a weapon to be waved about easily. It is not light either. It uses a 20 shot clip and uses electro magnetic explulsion to accerlerate a projectile to very high speed. Projectiles are either hollow tipped or explosive (or both). It can fire at a rate of 2 - 3 per second. The barrel is bulky due to the magnetos and the required cabling to make the accelerators work. Not a gun that can be used to quick draw and given it's weight, not for a lightly built person to use. It is also complex and can not be used in water.

Rail Carbine

A bigger, two handed model, is slung and what I understand Hworwang has. It is a Over / Under device, Over being a 250 shot blaster, under the rail. 40 shot, still 2 - 3 per second, same ammo, but can spit them out at higher velocity.

Uses

Generally I have refused to allow other players to have one. I know that they are vaguely legal at best and that they can be abused, which I dont want to see. Has been used twice against other players at SWFans, but always delibertly written to miss or chance to miss. At GJO, different matter, where they are used to blow holes to tables, cahirs, projectors, the bar and NPC's. General use should be restricted to NPC's and also threats to PC's and blowing up objects.

tracesha
Sep 5th, 2001, 10:08:33 PM
Does seem to be a questionable at best weapon to use in a general RP. Those specs are difficult to believe as realistic, even as source material from the Encyclopedia. I can see your reluctance to allow them as standard RP weapons.

Liam Jinn
Sep 5th, 2001, 10:09:31 PM
Oh yeah, so does this mean he should edit further? If not everyone outside has huge gaping holes in them <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

Firebird1
Sep 6th, 2001, 02:25:33 AM
It's just a rail-gun... Geezzz...

Okay from my experance shooting one in Quake 3 and other games involving a railgun they take time to recharge so the trigger happy sniping idiot has to run around like a dog trying to avoid the incomming rockets red glare.

Basicaly Hwoarang's gun discharged all of its energy at once due to a malfunction. Basicaly it's useless, the top half might not be, but the railgun is out of the fight. As for the attack being legal, I did not see the original post so I'll leave it up to Hwoarang and Ogre's Sis in Law to devise this attack and do it fairly. :(
This could of been better handled through Email.....

tracesha
Sep 6th, 2001, 02:49:19 AM
That contradicts FMH's source material, and also, the tone of this thread didn't seem quite so negative until you painted it as such. The rail gun issue is something that concerns more than just Ogre's sister in-law, as he fired at an entire group of individuals with a rapid fire weapon of mass destruction. So I believe that discussing it here is plenty appropriate, its not just between two individuals, it concerns several players.

Morgan Evanar
Sep 6th, 2001, 03:17:31 AM
Theoretically, you could have a weapon that would do that, but the recharge rate makes that sort of rapid fire somewhat out of the question, unless the slugs were moseying along at something like a hundred meters a second.

Firebird1
Sep 6th, 2001, 03:34:43 AM
I said Quake 3....

My gosh noone around here plays that game?

No wonder I don't have it installed right now. :p

Morgan Evanar
Sep 6th, 2001, 03:35:05 AM
Q3 sux.

tracesha
Sep 6th, 2001, 03:44:12 AM
It seemed FMH posted Star Wars related source info, though there wasn't a link to clarify and I am a bit too lazy to go look it up right now.

Judging from what I can gather, even being grazed by such a projectile could be a life ender for any one of the people he shot at, therefore I believe this discussion valid.

Captain Tohmahawk
Sep 6th, 2001, 04:51:38 AM
The only rail gun that exists in Star wars is the Bowcaster. Chewbacca's had an added blaster to it as the caster is a tricky weapon - basically it's a grenade launcher. The quarrel is fired a some distance and explodes. It is manually cocked but is electro-magnetically cast.

The rail gun (as used by myself for some months) would only exist because I was able to verify rail gun (as per the Bowcaster) exist as do projectile weapons. It presumes two things -

1) A power pack to give it the energy can be made small enough
2) The electro-magnetics can be made powerful enough

Actually three things

3) It isn't going to be used at SWFans without some sort of sense of fair play and common sense, that being the overriding principle. Which is why I have not used them in a melee (execpt one I think) at SWFans, outside of the specific RP's I do.

Hwoarang
Sep 6th, 2001, 07:07:26 AM
so I need to just edit it out of all my posts and get a new weapon or what?

Morgan Evanar
Sep 6th, 2001, 12:37:17 PM
Or not use explosive/hollowpoint.

Hwoarang
Sep 6th, 2001, 04:08:28 PM
I just got regular slugs.