Attack of the Clones vs Pearl Harbor?

[Darth23]

DISNEY TO REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR -- UNTIL IT HITS $200 MILLION
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Disney will apparently attempt to keep Pearl Harbor in theaters until it passes the $200-million mark and thereby the studio additional bragging points. Playing now on 462 screens after 11 weeks, the film earned $435,000 over the weekend. Its gross currently stands at $194.6 million.


So Pearl Harbor could still be in the theaters trying to scrape up pennies when Ep. 2 is released? ;)

I suppose they could spend another 15 million on ads to drum up enough business to push the flick over the top.

[General Ceel]

Pearl Harbor will do really good on DVD, VHS and rentals. Letting it hang around to reach 200M is so stupid.

[Jedieb]

If they keep it out long enough it will eventually get there, but just how long will theaters keep a 3 hour movie? Has it hit $1 theaters yet?

[CMJ]

It hasn't hit the $1 theatres yet...so I wouldn't think hitting 200M when it hits those would be TOO hard. It'll take a few weeks...but it should scrape by...:)

[JonathanLB]

hehe, well I think it's good they're going to leave it around until it hits $200 million. Anyway, that will make it seem like a more solid hit. Also, I don't see how you can call a $200 million film a disappointment unless it has the title "Star Wars" and was made after the 1980's ;)

[Darth23]

Well if a movie cost over 100 million to make, and the spent another 50 million hyping it then it's possible to call it a dissapointment. :D

[Jedieb]

Yes it was expensive, but $200M is still a sigh of relief for Disney. Now a $100M-$150M gross would have been a HUGE dissapointment. And a sub $100M gross would have been DEVASTATING!

[CMJ]

Because it's playing surprisingly well overseas. Usually patriotic films fall a little bit when you move across borders, but PH will make over 200M outside the US.

[DaBoSsNaStY]

I recall that Disney sent out a report saying: "Pearl Harbor needs to make over 250 million here in the states, and another 250 outsides the US.. to start seeing any kind of profit.

even if it makes or reach 200million, they are going to lose money on it, and will be conceder a disappointment at the boxoffice. Unless it makes over 300+ million overseas:)

Yeah, its going to be a tuff one here.... Attack of the Killer Clones V. Peral Harbor. Don't know who will win with that match up:p

[Darth23]

It could theoretically NEVER reach 200 million. I mean, if it's gets down to making like 400 bucks a weekend (Hannibal last weekend) then it coudl take a long time indeed.

:mad: ^}

[JonathanLB]

Haha, $400 in a weekend. Now that's funny. See, I like that, because each moviegoer KNOWS they're making a difference ;)

Guys, seriously, even with the cost of PH it will make money when you factor in TV viewings, video, DVD, and all that nonsense. It'll be profitable. Maybe not what they were hoping, but not a loser.

[Darth23]

See, I like that, because each moviegoer KNOWS they're making a difference


lol

Sound like me and Final Fantasy. :p

[Darth23]

Last Weekend (Aug 17-19):

Weekend results: $132,569
Total: $195,315,237
Screen Count: 194


This Weekend (Aug 24-26):

Weekend results: $75,852
Total: $195,456,759
Screen Count: 116


I don't see how they're going to leave it out there until it makes 200 million. Espeically since it's 3 hours long. You could have 2 showings of a newer 90 minute comedy (or JP3) it the same time.






Without a re-release

[Jedieb]

There's no way it's going to make it without some kind of advertising. Even then, the ads will cost more than the movie would bring in. They're going to have to eventually bring it in. A December 7th re-release would probably do the trick and Disney could cling to the "we reached $200M the year it was released" title. That's about the only way I see it getting there.

[Darth23]

Wow, great timing from Disney:


www.showbizdata.com/conta...m?id=27082 (http://www.showbizdata.com/contacts/picknews.cfm?id=27082)

In an apparent effort to exploit the Labor Day weekend to make good on its forecast that Pearl Harbor would earn $200 million domestically, Disney plans to expand the number of theater screens showing it to "well above 500" beginning Friday, Daily Variety reported today (Tuesday). It is currently showing on 116. The film has earned $195.5 million thus far. Variety observed that Disney is apparently trying to take advantage of the fact that the competition next weekend will be light.

I think there's enough competition still out there from newer movies. Ap2, Rush Hour 2, POTA JP, The Others, plus Jeepers Creepers and O opening. I just don't that many people going 'Hey! Let's see Pearl Harbor again this weekend!'

If Pearl Harbor makes the [same] per screen average next weekend with 500 theaters, it should take in about 300,000 bucks.

Unfortunately:

a) mostly everyone who wants to see the flick has seen it and

b) Labor Day weekend isn't really a huge movie weekend, like Memorial Day.

They'll still need several more weeks (months?) to get past the 200 million mark. Maybe a Dec 7 (tacky, imo) re-re-release will be in order).

[JonathanLB]

haha, why not just re-release it every single weekend? I think that's a better idea! Heck, why not?!

lol.

[CMJ]

I think it might drum up SOME money this weekend(like maybe 1M) then I don't know.... If they let it move to the dollar theatres it jmight eventually hit 200M.

[Jedi Master Kyle]

I suggest that they boost movie ticket prices to 1 million dollars and then make Affleck take Damon, Bruckheimer and Bay and Harnett can attend and presto! 200 million!

[buff jedi 2]

:lol:

[Darth23]

Looks like they'll get it on 1,000 screens this weekend. Thsi should be interesting. apparently previous Disney re-releases (is there another word for it?) have added about 3.5 million bucks to it's total, which would make PH's failure to reach 200 million even more sad.

What if it really does end up playing on 20 screens making 400 bucks a week?


:mad: ^}

[Darth23]

PH is at 197 million - it's going to be close. If it makes the 3.5 million that the other Disney re-releases have made it will end up at 199 million. I think the last million will be the hardest.

[Darth23]

Looks like the theater expansion was only for a week. It's stalled at 197 million, I don't think there's any way it will hit 200.

[Darth23]

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/va/20010925/100141199900.html


HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Despite a brief re-expansion into wide release over Labor Day weekend and the next weekend, ``Pearl Harbor'' still has not hit $200 million at the domestic box office.


...Disney distribution president Chuck Viane insists the picture still will reach deeper box office waters, once it steams into a planned four-week run in discount theaters beginning Oct. 5. The total should reach $197.5 million by then, he calculates, with the discount run adding at least another $3 million thereafter.

The Jerry Bruckheimer-Michael Bay drama first set sail domestically on Memorial Day, amid domestic-gross predictions of up to $250 million that soon proved far too optimistic.

# million at the discount theaters in 4 weeks? I suppose it could happen. But since it's a 3 hour movie it will be a challenge.

[JonathanLB]

I still don't think the movie was disappointing in any way financially. I don't care if they thought it'd make $250 million, $200 million is still very good and it has done well internationally. It's a definite hit, so everyone saying it was a massive bomb... ugg, whatever.

[Darth23]

It's not a masive bomb, but with all the advertising the studio was setting it up as if it was going to be THE movie event of the summer, if not ever.

Now, after Shrek, Rush Hour 2 and even The Mummy Returns have cleared the 200 million dollar hurdle, PH is still struggling to get there. I don't think, given the amount of hype, that it was considered to be the fourth highest grossing picture of the summer.

[Darth23]

Still at 197.5. I guess this week is the big discount theater premiere. ;)

[Darth23]

Oct 5 - Pearl Harbor 226,733 - 197,761,540


Oct 12 - Pearl Harbor 183,116 $198,066,399


At this rate it will fade out at about $198,600,000. I wonder if President Chuck was counting on a bonus for PH reaching 200. That would explain all the press stories.

A December 7th rerelease still isn't out if the question, but I still think it might be seen as tacky.

[Mu Satach]

Good Lord... I just looked at the dates of this thread... yikers... 2 months and it's crawling... =|

talk about going out with a whimper...

[Jedieb]

A December push would be tricky. It may be cathartic for some, but quite painful to others. I know I found the the actual bombing scenes to bit a bit gut wrenching. I don't know how those images would make me feel now that there's an actual event that I'd use to relate to it. But I think the curiosty and patriotism factor alone would easily bump it past $200M. But I just don't know if Disney would be willing to advertise it right now.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think they are releasing the ultimate DVD and the tape on Dec 7 so it has probably made about as much as it is going to.

[Darth23]

It could still be in the theaters after it's been released on video and dvd. Crouching Tiger, TItanic, JP and a few othrs did that.

[Champion of the Force]

Personally I think it would look pretty dodgy if they did re-release it on Dec. 7 - they've been trying to milk as much out of it for as long as they can and to re-release it in less than 2 months time would just look stupid to me.

[Darth23]

Movie: Pearl Harbor
Rank: 42
Last Week: 34
Weekend Gross: $63,749
Total Gross: $198,356,396
Weeks in release: 23
Theaters: 113

[Darth23]

Movie: Pearl Harbor
This Week: 69
Last Week: 61
Studio: BV
TOTAL WEEKEND GROSS: $8,838
Total Gross $198,527,506
Weeks in release: 27
Number of theaters: 23

I think it's time to pull the plug. It's coming out on DVD and Video, it ALMOST made 200 milion, enough is enough.

[Jedieb]

He's dead Jim.:x

[JMK]

Yeah, really, get it out of there. It's been on life support long enough. It ain't comin out of this coma.