Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)

[Dasquian Belargic]

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch have joined the roster of the Avengers sequel

(also some spoilers for Iron Man 3 in this link, but they are clearly marked)

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/176981-joss-whedon-confirms-quicksilver-and-scarlet-witch-talks-iron-man-returning

[Captain Untouchable]

It's worth bearing in mind that Joss is still on the first draft of the script: that doesn't mean they'll make it all the way to screen (pretty sure he said as much in an interview recently). Among other things, the fact that Marvel isn't technically allowed to use Magneto complicates matters somewhat: they'll either have to work around it or cut a deal with Fox, and either of those could wind up being more trouble than they're worth.

I wish we knew more about the Ant-Man movie. Joss very nearly included Wasp in the first movie to help with the gender balance, and she's pretty much the perfect Whedon superhero... but if Edgar Wright is planning to use her for Ant-Man, that probably means Joss won't be able to.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I'd be happy to have Pietro and Wanda in there, even without Magneto. They've had big roles in stories that don't feature Magneto before, after all.

[Captain Untouchable]

True, but Thor has big roles in stories that don't feature Odin... that doesn't mean you'd necessarily make a Marvel movie where Thor wasn't an Asgardian. Bear in mind that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are the only mutants that Marvel Studios is allowed to use, so that aspect of their backstory is missing too. All they could really be used for is supporting character type roles like Hawkeye and Black Widow - part of other heroes stories and movies, rather than at the centre of their own.

I'm cool with that, because I don't know the characters all that well. Plus, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Quick Silver and Scarlet Witch are a team in the Ultimates comics: specifically they're a covert ops type back-up team for the Avengers, and that would be badass. Joss Whedon on the other hand is a big fan of both (as are a lot of people), so he might not be happy including them if he's only allowed to use a partial version.

*shrug* I guess we'll have to wait and see. :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

Joss Whedon says there's no Loki in Avengers 2 and seems to pretty solid on the idea of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch joining the cast

http://www.themarysue.com/joss-whedon-avengers-2-loki/

[Dasquian Belargic]

http://www.themarysue.com/robert-downey-jr-avengers-2-3/

RDJ signs for this movie and the next one!

[Captain Untouchable]

The fact that it's a two-picture deal means that there probably won't be an Iron Man 4... which I'm totally fine with. Hopefully Thor will stop at a trilogy too: seems like three is the magic number as far as solo character development story type things go.

I hope Rhodey will find his way into the Avengers though. It'd be a shame if no Iron Man 4 also means no more War machine. :(

[Dasquian Belargic]

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch to be "huge parts" of this movie: http://www.themarysue.com/whedon-saturn-red-carpet/

[Captain Untouchable]

I wonder if they're going the "Cap's Kooky Quartet" and/or Ultimates route.

In the comics during the 60s (I think?), the Avengers all basically quit except for Captain America. He formed a new Avengers that consisted of himself, Hawkeye, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch, and they were basically the team for a while until the others started coming back. And in the Ultimates, SHIELD had a team that consisted of Hawkeye, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Black Widow that was sort of a SWAT style back-up team for the Avengers.

So like... I wonder if the movie is going to start off with most of the heroes having gone their separate way, and there's this core of people on the SHIELD payroll that starts dealing with the threat, and then Thor / Tony / Bruce / etc eventually gravitate back towards the team once shit gets real.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I'm just reading 'Marvels' at the minute and think I saw the moment in there where Cap recruits his quartet... pretty cool :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

Will Vin Diesel be joining the cast of the Avengers 2?

http://www.starburstmagazine.com/movie-news/5898-movie-news-vin-diesel-marvel

[Érinthe Hetetlen]

...huh.

Not convinced by the Vision speculations, because of how closely the character is tied to the whole Ant-Man / Ultron arc. The Ant-Man movie isn't due until November 2015 (after Avengers 2 comes out)... so unless Ultron is going to be the villain of Avengers 2, and the movie will introduce Hank Pym before he becomes Ant-Man... I imagine we probably won't be seeing the Vision for a little while.

I'm leaning more towards someone like Wonder Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Man), Gilgamesh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgotten_One_%28comics%29), or Mar-Vell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-Vell). Gilgamesh is an alien from the same race as Thanos (the Eternals), so that'd tie in with the cards that are already on the table. Wonder Man is turned into a being made of energy, so he's got an otherworldly slant to him that'd probably suit Vin Diesel's voice. And since there are still persistent rumours that Ronan the Accuser will be in Guardians of the Galaxy, introducing Mar-Vell means that you can introduce Carol Danvers... and EVERYONE wants that.

[Captain Untouchable]

...so unless Ultron is going to be the villain of Avengers 2...

Avengers sequel officially titled Avengers: Age of Ultron (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/178325-comic-con-the-avengers-sequel-officially-titled-avengers-age-of-ultron)

...well played, Joss Whedon. Well played. :ohno

Edit:

Since me thinking things are unlikely apparently makes them happen... I think it's highly unlikely that Nathan Fillion will play Hank Pym as a civilian in Avengers 2, and that a different actor will be introduced to play an action hero / SHIELD agent version of Scott Lang in Ant-Man. I also think it's incredibly unlikely that Katee Sackhoff will appear as Captain Marvel.

:uhoh

[Dasquian Belargic]

Wanda is getting a makeover: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/movienewsandreviews/news/?a=84120

...but the Ultimates design is so boring :( if Thor can have stupid headgear, why can't Wanda?

[Dasquian Belargic]

We may have our Quicksilver...

http://nerdreactor.com/2013/07/29/aaron-taylor-johnson-getting-closer-to-becoming-marvels-quicksilver/

[Captain Untouchable]

In fairness, Thor didn't wear his stupid headgear in Whedon's movie... and Whedon also smashed up an Iron Man suit that he didn't like the look of in the script, just so he could go with a design he wanted. And, Hawkeye's costume was just... very not like anything we've ever seen Hawkeye wearing before. The dude seems incredibly picky about superhero fashion. :uhoh

As for Aaron Taylor-Johnson... he might end up being great, but no matter how good he is I'm still going to be a teensy bit disappointed that they didn't cast Tom Felton. Because come on, Tom Felton would be an amaaaaazing Quicksilver. :ohno

[Captain Untouchable]

EDIT: Wrong thread. >_<

[Dasquian Belargic]

In fairness, Thor didn't wear his stupid headgear in Whedon's movie... and Whedon also smashed up an Iron Man suit that he didn't like the look of in the script, just so he could go with a design he wanted. And, Hawkeye's costume was just... very not like anything we've ever seen Hawkeye wearing before. The dude seems incredibly picky about superhero fashion. :uhoh

True.. although Loki has some pretty funky headgear, right? I just worry about Wanda because the rest of her costume isn't so iconic.


As for Aaron Taylor-Johnson... he might end up being great, but no matter how good he is I'm still going to be a teensy bit disappointed that they didn't cast Tom Felton. Because come on, Tom Felton would be an amaaaaazing Quicksilver. :ohno

Mmm.. I dunno. He looks the part in the Harry Potter movies, but I don't know about his acting chops. Or really how he looks now. He's kind of grown out of looking like a Malfoy :lol

[Dasquian Belargic]

Scarlet Witch has been cast: http://www.themarysue.com/olsen-scarlet-witch/

[Dasquian Belargic]

Our Ultron has been cast!

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2013/08/29/james-spader-cast-as-the-villain-in-avengers-age-of-ultron

[Dasquian Belargic]

Officially offical casting of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver:

http://marvel.com/news/story/21563/official_elizabeth_olsen_aaron_taylor-johnson_join_avengers_age_of_ultron

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Was it just a rumor before now, because I could swear I thought they'd already cast them. :p

[Dasquian Belargic]

I think this is the first time it's been officially confirmed, for both of them, by Marvel.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Baron von Strucker has been cast:

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/01/15/thomas-kretschmann-cast-in-avengers-age-of-ultron-apparently-as-baron-wolfgang-von-strucker/

[Dasquian Belargic]

For anyone who didn't see already [The Vision] has been cast for this movie and will be played by [Paul Bettany.. who's also the voice of JARVIS!] The plot thickens :whaa

[Commander Koine]

Additional to that, he has apparently been down to the studio for make-up tests. Word is that [the make-up he has been seen wearing is white, so we might be getting this (http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Avengers-Age-of-Ultron-White-Vision.jpg) Vision, with his oh-so-fashionable yellow and green coming later.]

[Dasquian Belargic]

Some set pictures/video from South Africa...

http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-set-videos-spoilers/

[Dasquian Belargic]

Concept art including Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver!

http://marvel.com/news/movies/2014/3/18/22172/marvel_studios_assembling_a_universe_unleashes_new _phase_2_art

Quicksilvers costume looks (so far) better in this than in X-Men

[Dasquian Belargic]

Set photos! http://www.superherohype.com/news/296313-new-set-photos-from-avengers-age-of-ultron-reveal-quicksilver-scarlet-witch-and-more#/slide/1

Wanda doing telekinetic things! Pietro with silver hair! Ultron looking.. like a stand-in for a CGI Ultron!

[Rutabaga]

Lookie lookie:

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[Captain Untouchable]

I am uncomfortable with how sexy Ultron sounds. :ohno

That Hulkbuster armour looks amazeballs though. Also, [Cap's shield gets shattered?!] That's not an ominous comic book reference at all... :eek

[Peter McCoy]

Hulk vs Hulkbuster! ZOMG!

Also, is it true that they're going to adapt the Civil War storyline into a movie?

[Vansen Tyree]

That's the rumour, about why Iron Man is going to play a major part in Captain America 3 - so take it with a grain of salt. That said, it certainly fits with a whole lot of the other stuff that has been floating about rumour wise (some of which is confirmed, some isn't), and with the direction that Agents of SHIELD currently seems to be headed.

The show (based on "hey, this might be this thing from the comics" reasons) seems to be heading in the direction of causing a large explosion in the superpowered population, which is something that a) Agents of SHIELD needs in order to carry on anyway, and b) something that a Civil War movie would need in order for there to be something to actually Civil War over.

So... not necessarily true? But certainly seems like a strong possibility.

[Rutabaga]

A fun recap of highlights from the teaser via The Mary Sue:

http://www.themarysue.com/tms-favorite-moments-avengers-age-of-ultron-trailer/

[Lilaena De'Ville]

That's the rumour, about why Iron Man is going to play a major part in Captain America 3 - so take it with a grain of salt. That said, it certainly fits with a whole lot of the other stuff that has been floating about rumour wise (some of which is confirmed, some isn't), and with the direction that Agents of SHIELD currently seems to be headed.

The show (based on "hey, this might be this thing from the comics" reasons) seems to be heading in the direction of causing a large explosion in the superpowered population, which is something that a) Agents of SHIELD needs in order to carry on anyway, and b) something that a Civil War movie would need in order for there to be something to actually Civil War over.

So... not necessarily true? But certainly seems like a strong possibility.
Are you talking about the MCU/SHIELD show [using Inhumans for super powered people since Mutants are tied up at Fox]? Because with [Skye's dad and the Obelisk] I would say yes, it looks like they're going in that direction.

[Atton Kira]

Yeah, that definitely looks like the way Agents of SHIELD is going. Specifically, it seems like [The Obelisk/Diviner - or rather, the weapon of mass destruction that Hydra wants to reverse engineer from it - might be the Terrigen Bomb from Inhumans lore? The Terrigen Bomb in the comics activated the abilities of a whole bunch of Inhumans, and was invented by an Inhuman called Maximus the Mad who (I'm 99% sure) has super strength, psychological issues, and the power to telepathically manipulate people close to him (as he seems to be doing with Rayna). My guess is that the Obelisk "divines" for special/Inhuman people by a process of elimination, killing off anyone who isn't, and that we're heading in that direction, we'll likely see the bomb go off... killing a lot of innocent people and throwing the world into chaos, creating a literal explosion of superpowered people, and creating a complicated political situation where the Tony Stark side of Civil War blames the survivors (on the basis that they are Inhumans, and Inhumans were responsible), whereas the Steve Rogers side argues that the survivors are victims.]

I'm also standing by my theory that Skye is [a relatively obscure character called Sarah Garza. I have many reasons for that, but mostly I'm just mentioning that on the off chance that I'll be able to do my little smug dance if I end up being right.] :mischief

[Dasquian Belargic]

Welp, I saw it. Enjoyed it. Maybe not as much as the first Avengers film, but I still grinned from ear to ear for most of it. Any time the whole gang is on the screen and busting skulls, it's a joy.

Looking forward to the next one!

[Atreyu]

Just saw it now ...


... not bad. :D


(ok, I really enjoyed it :))

[Serena Laran]

We're going to watch Avengers on Thursday evening and then catch a "midnight" showing of Age of Ultron at like 10:45pm at the local theatre. I can't wait.

[Rutabaga]

Saw it today and had a great time! Pretty much enjoyed the hell out of it. I was also really glad that I was able to avoid spoilers, so what happened to [Quicksilver really surprised me. And disappointed me in a way. I was hoping they'd find some comic book way to resurrect him at the end, but I guess not. :(]

Outside of the action, the funny bits [The Vision handing Mjolnir to Thor got the biggest guffaw in my audience], the cameos, the unexpected domestic gooshy bits, one thing really stuck out for me: [the Avengers' constant striving to get civilians out of the way and minimize collateral damage as much as possible.] That was a really nice touch, and it's one of the things that's been missing so far in DC movies. So I give them a big thumbs-up for that. :thumbup

[Charley]

Absolutely enjoyed this movie. Totally lived up to blockbuster status.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

It was a hell of a lot of fun. Gotta say though, my favorite part was the Hulk and Hulk Buster fight, with Tony fist-pounding Hulk in the face and repeating 'go to sleep go to sleep' over and over

[Jedieb]

A step down from the first one, but it was still pretty good. The appeal of these Marvel movies have gotten so wide that I was actually sitting with my wife and daughters in the theater. My son still hasn't gotten around to seeing it. Looking forward to seeing an extended cut of this when it comes out on blu-ray. I read somewhere that Whedon may put together a version that's close to 3 hours long.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Yeah I heard Joss in a podcast say he had an almost three hour cut of the movie - with the Loki scenes and the extended Cave sequence, I believe?

We took Owen and Sophie on Friday to see it and they loved it (except that Sophie had to go to the bathroom twice in the middle of it lol).