NFL Pick 'em 2012: Week 3 (THURSDAY GAME)

[Dragon]

Sorry for the short notice. I have a very full day of classes on Tuesday, so It's usually going to be Tuesday night or Wednesday morning before I can get them tallied. I guess that's another reason to dislike Thursday night football...

If all else fails, I can always post the next week's schedule before I'm finished with the tallies so people aren't missing the Thursday games.


Thursday, Sept 20
NYG @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI
BUF @ CLE
TB @ DAL
NYJ @ MIA
SF @ MIN
KC @ NO
CIN @ WAS
DET @ TEN
JAX @ IND

PHI @ ARI
ATL @ SD
HOU @ DEN
PIT @ OAK

NE @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
GB @ SEA

Survivor:

Dragon: PHI, SD
jjwr: BAL, SD
Dee: SEA, PHI
Liam Jinn: SEA, SF
Morgan Evanar: --- HOU
Kolrad: MIN, NE
Kyran O'Hurn: CHI, WAS
Rutabaga: NE, DAL
Ryan Pode: CHI, MIN
Jedi Master Carr: --- NE
Park Kraken: NO, WAS

[Halajiin Rabeak]

All righty, let's see if I can keep up my streak of being 50% correct!

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG (W) @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI (W)
BUF @ CLE (W)
TB (W) @ DAL
NYJ @ MIA (W)
SF (W) @ MIN
KC @ NO (W)
CIN (W) @ WAS
DET @ TEN (W)
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI @ ARI (W)
ATL @ SD (W)
HOU @ DEN (W)
PIT (W) @ OAK

NE (W) @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
GB @ SEA (W)

[Dragon]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG WIN @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI WIN
BUF @ CLE WIN
TB @ DAL WIN
NYJ WIN @ MIA
SF WIN @ MIN
KC @ NO WIN
CIN WIN @ WAS
DET WIN @ TEN
JAX @ IND WIN

PHI @ ARI WIN
ATL @ SD WIN
HOU @ DEN WIN
PIT WIN @ OAK

NE @ BAL WIN

Monday, Sept 24
GB WIN @ SEA


Survivor: NO

[Liam Jinn]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG (W) @ CAR

[Nathanial K'cansce]

Thursday, Sept 20
(W) NYG @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI (W)
(W) BUF @ CLE
TB @ DAL (W)
(W) NYJ @ MIA
(W) SF @ MIN
KC @ NO (W)
CIN @ WAS (W)
(W) DET @ TEN
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI @ ARI (W)
(W) ATL @ SD
HOU @ DEN (W)
(W) PIT @ OAK

(W) NE @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
(W) GB @ SEA

[Figrin D'an]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG @ CAR (W)

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI (W)
BUF (W) @ CLE
TB @ DAL (W)
NYJ (W) @ MIA
SF (W) @ MIN
KC @ NO (W)
CIN @ WAS (W)
DET (W) @ TEN
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI @ ARI (W)
ATL @ SD (W)
HOU @ DEN (W)
PIT (W) @ OAK

NE @ BAL (W)

Monday, Sept 24
GB (W) @ SEA

[Kyran O'Hurn]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG (W) @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI (W)
BUF (W) @ CLE
TB @ DAL (W)
NYJ (W) @ MIA
SF (W) @ MIN
KC @ NO (W)
CIN @ WAS (W)
DET (W) @ TEN
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI (W) @ ARI
ATL (W) @ SD
HOU @ DEN (W)
PIT (W) @ OAK

NE @ BAL (W)

Monday, Sept 24
GB (W) @ SEA

[Park Kraken]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG (W) @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL (W) @ CHI
BUF (W) @ CLE
TB (W) @ DAL
NYJ @ MIA (W)
SF (W) @ MIN
KC (W) @ NO
CIN @ (W) WAS

DET (W) @ TEN
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI (W) @ ARI
ATL (W) @ SD
HOU (W) @ DEN
PIT (W) @ OAK

NE @ BAL (W)

Monday, Sept 24
GB @ SEA (W)

Survivor: SF

[Kolrad]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI
BUF @ CLE
TB @ DAL
NYJ @ MIA
SF @ MIN
KC @ NO
CIN @ WAS
DET @ TEN
JAX @ IND

PHI @ ARI
ATL @ SD
HOU @ DEN
PIT @ OAK

NE @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
GB @ SEA

Survivor pick, take two: DAL

[Rutabaga]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG WIN @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI WIN
BUF WIN @ CLE
TB @ DAL WIN
NYJ WIN @ MIA
SF WIN @ MIN
KC @ NO WIN
CIN @ WAS WIN
DET WIN @ TEN
JAX @ IND WIN

PHI @ ARI WIN
ATL @ SD WIN
HOU WIN @ DEN
PIT WIN @ OAK

NE @ BAL WIN

Monday, Sept 24
GB WIN @ SEA

Survivor pick: Niners

[Dee]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG W @ CAR

Sunday, Sept 23
STL W @ CHI
BUF W @ CLE
TB @ DAL W
NYJ W @ MIA
SF W @ MIN
KC @ NO W
CIN @ WAS W
DET W @ TEN
JAX @ IND W

PHI W @ ARI
ATL @ SD W
HOU @ DEN W
PIT W @ OAK

NE W @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
GB @ SEA W

Survivor: NE

[Ryan Pode]

Giants. Rest later.

[jjwr]

Stupid Thursday games, well I was going to pick Carolina anyways so it'll be a loss regardless.

[Liam Jinn]

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI (W)
BUF (W) @ CLE
TB @ DAL (W)
NYJ (W) @ MIA
SF (W) @ MIN
KC @ NO (W)
CIN @ WAS (W)
DET @ TEN (W)
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI (W) @ ARI
ATL (W) @ SD
HOU @ DEN (W)
PIT (W) @ OAK

NE @ BAL (W)

Monday, Sept 24
GB (W) @ SEA

Survivor - Washington

[Jedi Master Carr]

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI W
BUF @ CLE W
TB @ DAL W
W NYJ @ MIA
W SF @ MIN
KC @ NO W
CIN @ WAS W
W DET @ TEN
JAX @ IND W

W PHI @ ARI
W ATL @ SD
W HOU @ DEN
W PIT @ OAK

W NE @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
W GB @ SEA

[Ryan Pode]

Sunday, Sept 23
STL @ CHI Win
BUF Win @ CLE
TB @ DAL Win
NYJ Win @ MIA
SF Win @ MIN
KC @ NO Win
CIN Win @ WAS
DET Win @ TEN
JAX Win @ IND

PHI Win @ ARI
ATL Win @ SD
HOU Win @ DEN
PIT Win @ OAK

NE @ BAL Win

Monday, Sept 24
GB Win @ SEA

Survivor: Buffalo

[jjwr]

Thursday, Sept 20
NYG @ CAR (W)

Sunday, Sept 23
STL (W) @ CHI
BUF (W) @ CLE
TB @ DAL (W)
NYJ (W) @ MIA
SF (W) @ MIN
KC @ NO (W)
CIN @ WAS (W)
DET (W) @ TEN
JAX @ IND (W)

PHI (W) @ ARI
ATL (W) @ SD
HOU (W) @ DEN
PIT (W) @ OAK

NE (W) @ BAL

Monday, Sept 24
GB (W) @ SEA

Survivor: Detroit

I can't believe I picked this many road teams...

[Park Kraken]

Way to pull it off Chiefs.

I know Greg came from Rutgers, a College Football team, but did we hire our offensive coordinator from a Pee-Wee Football team out somewhere remote? :whaa

[Dragon]

Ryan Mundy, I am ashamed to call you a Pittsburgh Steeler. That hit was as bad as Eric Smith's hit on Anquan Boldin back in 2008.

Here's hoping Hayward-Bey is going to be okay.

[Park Kraken]

Looking at the highlights from the various games yesterday, you gotta love that Baltimore crowd. Those refs couldn't get off the field fast enough. :lol

[Tevit Ramastan]

Wow, the officiating was just plain terrible. Seriously, some fans could do a better job than these replacement refs did!

[Park Kraken]

Y'know everyone says that, but I'll bet the job is a lot harder than it looks. I mean you don't choose refereeing as a profession to not throw penalties if you see them, etc. I would not want to be in their position right now.

[Figrin D'an]

Y'know everyone says that, but I'll bet the job is a lot harder than it looks. I mean you don't choose refereeing as a profession to not throw penalties if you see them, etc. I would not want to be in their position right now.


Throwing flags for what they see isn't the primary issue, IMO. It's what they aren't seeing. There is a huge consistency issue with the calls being made. It seems often that a lot of the officials are either getting blinded by the speed of the NFL game or are watching the ball and center of the action and not their assignments.

There will always be some infractions that will be missed, even with the regular officials. It's the frequency of this being so high with the replacement officials that is making players, coaches, and fans irate.

[Rutabaga]

Pardon my French, but the Packers just got totally fucked 7 ways to Sunday on live TV. :grumble

[Figrin D'an]

Well, been fun everyone. Not picking any more games this season. I'm officially boycotting the NFL until this disgusting farce of officiating is fixed.

We have a clear case of two horrendous calls directly robbing a team of victory. It's not even debatable.

Roger Goodell should be ashamed of this entire mess. So much for the vaunted integrity of the National Football League.

[Rutabaga]

Well, been fun everyone. Not picking any more games this season. I'm officially boycotting the NFL until this disgusting farce of officiating is fixed.

We have a clear case of two horrendous calls directly robbing a team of victory. It's not even debatable.

Roger Goodell should be ashamed of this entire mess. So much for the vaunted integrity of the National Football League.

I hear you. I'm feeling the same way. It was already frustrating thanks to bad calls, but this takes the cake. :shakefist

[Dragon]

I don't blame you one bit, Fig. I'm really sorry your team got hosed. This was a fantastic game through three quarters with occasional missed calls, but nothing that would stand out in the regular season - maybe just below average for an ordinary crew. And then in the fourth quarter the officials lost their collective minds, and the entire rest of the game became irrelevant.

In other news, the weekly tally is in. I went 42-3, and the rest of you were -16 and 20. Better luck next time, guys.

[Park Kraken]

Looking over the picks, looks like everone did anywhere from 9-7 to 6-10, although I don't see a Thursday pick for jmc.

We're not doing too well in the Survivor section. I'm the only one with a streak going, & an unwanted one at that.

[Dragon]

To allay any possible confusion, I am still going to tally up the picks for real. Block exam on cranial nerves takes precedence.

Actually, if someone wants to post next week's schedule, feel free. Otherwise I'll get to it tonight.

[Jedi Master Carr]

One of the worst calls that I have ever seen. The NFL should be ashamed of themselves to have those jokers calling the games.

[Dragon]

To be fair, I consider that a tough call to make. I compare it to the final play of the AFC Championship game in 1996, Colts at Steelers. Colts QB Jim Harbaugh unleashed a similar desperation heave into the endzone as time expired, and the Colts receiver went up for it, snagged it, and landed on his back with the ball on his chest - after which the ball bounced off and fell to the turf by his side. Of course, he immediately grabbed it again, and it was very difficult to tell that he'd dropped it at all. Even the TV announcer shouted that he'd caught it.

But then the right side line judge, who'd positioned himself perfectly to see the play from beginning to end, rushed in and definitively signaled incomplete. This was before the days of instant replay; there was no taking back an official signal, and it was the same sort of situation as we had last night, where the call on the last play directly determined the outcome of the game. It takes serious balls to be so sure of yourself that you can make so big a call on so big a stage with such conviction. In this case, the ref was as certain as humanly possible because he had the best view of the play in the entire stadium. That takes a bit of luck, but it also takes skill and experience.

These refs don't have the skill and experience required to make such a call. This clearly isn't a case where some of the fans could do a better job - that's just the point. A very few people in this country are qualified to do officiate at the NFL level. Maybe some of these replacements are there (doubtful); maybe some of them can get there over time, but a statistically significant number of them clearly aren't, and throwing them back into these situations with no safety net isn't going to help them improve. The league is screwing them over just as much as the players, coaches, and fans.

[Park Kraken]

I personally view it akin to dropping a bunch of High School Substitute Teachers into Harvard and then expecting for awesome things to happen, but now people are waking up and realizing it isn't happening.

[Dragon]

Wow, this may have been our lowest winning percentage for a week ever. Do bear in mind that several of those unexpected upsets were in fact not ultimately determined by the refs. In a sense, the replacements are merely adding another dose of uncertainty to an already crazy season. Here's hoping we'll have more reason to talk about football and not the officials in the coming weeks.


Week 3 Tally:
Ryan Pode: 10-6
Kolrad: 8-8
Rutabaga: 8-8
Dragon: 7-9
Kyran O'Hurn: 7-9
Liam Jinn: 7-9
Nathanial K'casnce: 7-9
Park Kraken: 7-9
Figrin D'an: 6-10
Halajiin Rabeak: 6-10
Dee: 5-11
Jedi Master Carr: 5-11
jjwr: 5-11
Korax: 4-12 (did not pick)
Morgan Evanar: 4-12 (did not pick)


Total Tally:
Ryan Pode: 32-16
jjwr: 29-19
Rutabaga: 27-21
Nathanial K'cansce: 26-22
Figrin D'an: 25-23
Dee: 24-24
Dragon: 23-25
Jedi Master Carr: 23-25
Kolrad: 23-25
Liam Jinn: 23-25
Halajiin Rabeak: 22-26
Kyran O'Hurn: 22-26
Morgan Evanar: 20-28
Korax: 19-29
Park Kraken: 18-30


Survivor:
Dragon: PHI, SD, NO
jjwr: BAL, SD, DET
Dee: SEA, PHI, NE
Liam Jinn: SEA, SF, WAS
Morgan Evanar: --- HOU, ---
Kolrad: MIN, NE, DAL
Kyran O'Hurn: CHI, WAS, ---
Rutabaga: NE, DAL, SF
Ryan Pode: CHI, MIN, BUF
Jedi Master Carr: --- NE, ---
Park Kraken: NO, WAS, SF

[Rutabaga]

Oh wow, I did better than I thought.

BTW, big surprise on the front page of the local paper this morning...the ref who blew the call lives right here in Santa Maria. He's a banker who has never officiated on the professional level before. Here's a link to the big article about him:

http://santamariatimes.com/news/local/in-the-eye-of-the-storm/article_6cbb94dc-0799-11e2-80bb-0019bb2963f4.html

And BTW, I don't blame him for the fiasco, I totally blame the NFL. He's just the scapegoat.