Command Ships and Battlecruisers

[Reshmar]

Ok So I have talked with a couple people and we all agreed sticking to the no Super class ships for characters was a good idea. So you want a nice pretty command ship that is bigger and badder than the normal run of the mill ship of death.

So.... Lets talk Battlecruisers.
Allegiance Heavy Star Destroyer (http://www.sw-fans.net/wiki/index.php?title=Allegiance-class_Heavy_Star_Destroyer#History)
Bulwark Mk I Battleship (http://www.sw-fans.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bulwark)
Bulwark Mk II Battlecruiser
Bulwark Mk III Battleship (http://www.sw-fans.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bulwark_Mk_III_Battleship)

These are a ship class one step larger than Star Destroyers.
MC120/MC85 Calamari Command Cruisers, Bullwark MK II. Praetors, Allegiances and many other fit this bill. So I think I will list a few and the spec I have for them here. We can clear up anything needed and talk about a few designs I have no idea what they are. IE Modulator???

Ok first the trusty Calamari Command Cruiser. Now I come from a role playing background where I use alot of D6 rules. easier than D20....

So I have 2 classes of Calamari Command Cruiser.
MC120 and the MC85 Not alot of difference here. MC120 is 3,200 -3,800 meters depending on who made up the stats. I use 3,600 Meters
The MC85 is 1,800 Meters.



Class = MC120 Command Cruiser
Manufacturer = Mon Calamari Ship Yards
Designation = Command Cruiser
Length = 3,600 meters
Crew = 21,000
Passengers= 5,000 Troops
Speed = 44 MGLT
Acceleration = 5 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 5 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 7,600 RU
Shields = 13,680 SBD
Weapons= 92 Turbolaser Batteries, 36 Ion Cannons, 6 Tractor beam Projectors
Hangar= 120 Fighters, 4 Shuttles, 12 Assault Transports
Cargo=50,000 metric tons
Consumables=2 Years

Ships of the class
Independence
Defiance

Class = MC85 Command Cruiser
Manufacturer = Mon Calamari Ship Yards
Designation = Command Cruiser
Length = 1,800 meters
Crew = 16,000
Passengers= 5,000 Troops
Speed = 52 MGLT
Acceleration = 5 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 5 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 3,600 RU
Shields = 7,300 SBD
Weapons= 74 Turbolaser Batteries, 38 Ion Cannons, 6 Tractor beam Projectors
Hangar= 120 Fighters, 4 Shuttles, 12 Assault Transports
Cargo=50,000 metric tons
Consumables=2 Years

Ships of the Class
Dauntless

[Reshmar]

So There were 3 Independance MC120 Class ships Built. Home One was destroyed at Endor, Indipendance is Reshmar's current flag, and Defiance is kinda a mystery. Last count canon wise the ship was chasing down Imperials after endor so we know it could have survived.

The MC85s are more or less what Dauntless is. Not sure how many are out there. They arnt really canon most canon referance calls home one an MC85. This is better lol.

MOre tomorrow its late.

[Park Kraken]

I couldn't find defintive weapon stats on the Allegiance, but I did find some basic weapon stats, plus a model on the ship officially done by an artist contracted by LucasArts for the Allegiance class. The model containted 6 Heavy Ion Cannons on the top and bottom centerline, 6 Clusters of Heavy Turbolaser Batteries on the port and starboard sides, and 24 twin missile launchers mounted externally on the hull aft. Other smaller weapons can be seen in the trench.

Otherwise the stats I came up with match up pretty well with yours. The Allegiance was beginning to be produced in numbers at about this time period.

[Anne Phoenix]

Here are the Weapon Stats I'd devised for the Allegiance;

Armament:

24 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries

-24 Mounted 4 Apiece in Three Batteries each on the Starboard and Port Side Trenches.

10 Quad Heavy Turbolaser Turrets

-Mounted Port and Starboard on Sponsons in the Trenches.

6 Super Heavy Ion Cannons

-Mounted Centerline on the Dorsal and Ventral Sides.

48 Proton Torpedo Launchers

*480 Proton Torpedoes

-Mounted Externally on the Hull Aft, Ventral and Dorsal Sides, Six to Port and Starboard Each near the Aft.

[Reshmar]

Only ships with that heavy of ion cannons I know about were the Munificents they had the 2 long range big ones. I would imagine these would be a similure type.

Ok on WIki it lists 9 Axial gun batteries. 10 quad heavy turbolaser turrets, 25 heavy turbolaser batteries, and "several other weapons"

Allegiance wiki (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Allegiance-class_battlecruiser)

Allegiance Pictures (http://fractalsponge.net/gallery/asd/index.html)

on the pics you can see the 6 Barbettes and three axial batteries also three rim batteries. which Im sure they are axial batteries. Also if you look in some you can make out smaller Barbettes along the rim. I figure ion cannons and turbolasers. I can make out 3 along the rim on each side 2 forward of the first big rim battery and one between the first and second rim battery. towards the front. I don't see any aft of the middle rim battery though.

so if this is good these would be our officail stats for the Allegiance. (http://www.sw-fans.net/wiki/index.php?title=Allegiance-class_Heavy_Star_Destroyer#History)

[Reshmar]

OK just a list of ship that fall into this catagory. Ill get stats up later

Alliance command ships/battle cruisers
MC120 - 3600 meters Command cruiser.
Independance
Defiance

MC90 - 1255 meter Battlecruiser. 4 Will be layed down soon.
None yet

MC85 - 1800 meter Standard Command ship Not sure how many
Dauntlass maybe?

MC80b - 1200 meters Interum class between the MC80 and MC90. 4 in service 2 under construction.
Mon Remonda
Flame Of Rebellion
Allegiant
Mon Adapyne
2 unnamed

Bulwark Mk II Battle Cruiser - Big lots of weapons lands on planets
Not sure how many are left or were built.

Imperial Command ships/ battle cruisers

Revenge Class Heavy Carrier - 4000 meter battle carrier. Only 4 in class
Revenge
Relentless
Regulator
Recriminator

Praetor Star Battle Cruiser - 4,000 meter Battle Cruiser At least 12 built durring the clone wars.
Overlord

Procurator Star Battle Cruiser - 2500 meter KDY defense battle cruiser.
A few Im sure.

Allegiance Star Battle Cruiser - 2,200 meter True Battle Cruiser. Not sure how many were built. at least 6 maybe 12 or more


I would say anything over 4km is just too big for a character to have here.

On another note Im digging this Vigil star corvette. Thats a great new ship for the empire we neeed them.

[Reshmar]

Ok not a battlecruiser but im posting it here.

Vigil Star Crovette
Class = Vigil
Manufacturer = KDY
Designation = Heavy Corvette
Length = 255 meters
Crew = 126
Passengers= 80 Troops
Speed = 72 MGLT
Acceleration = 7 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 6 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 560 RU
Shields = 900 SBD
Weapons= 3 Double Turbolaser Turrets, 7 Double Light Turbolaser Turrets
Hangar= 16 Tie Interceptors
Cargo=5,000 metric tons
Consumables= 18 months

Now back to Battlecruisers

[Reshmar]

Bulwark Mk II Battle Cruiser

Class = Bulwark Mk II Battle Cruiser
Manufacturer = TransGalMag Industries
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 3,500 meters
Crew = 22,500
Passengers= 10,240 Troops
Speed = 48 MGLT
Acceleration = 4 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 6 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 5,320 RU
Shields = 12,760 SBD
Weapons= 176 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 58 Ion Batteries, 18 Tractor Beam Projectors
Hangar= 120 Fighters, 24 Assault Shuttles, 6 Shuttles
Cargo=70.000 Metric Tons
Consumables= 42 months

[Reshmar]

Revenge Class Heavy Carrier

Class = Revenge Heavy Carrier
Manufacturer = KDY
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 4,000 meters
Crew = 81,240
Passengers= 19,400 Troops
Speed = 56 MGLT
Acceleration = 4 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 4 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 6,980 RU
Shields = 14,060 SBD
Weapons = 80 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 80 Heavy Turbolaser Cannons, 40 Ion Cannons, 42 Point Defense Laser Cannons, 20 Tractor Beam Projectors
Hangar = 2 Tie Interceptor Wings (144 Fighters) , 3 Tie Fighter Wings (216 Fighters) , 1 Tie Bomber Wings (72 Bombers), 30 Landing Craft, 24 Assault Shuttles, 25 AT-AT Walkers, 40 AT-ST Walkers, 2 Prefabricated Garrison Bases
Cargo =112.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 48 months

Ships of the class
Revenge
Relentless
Regulator
Recriminator

[Reshmar]

Praetor Classes

Praetor Star Battle Cruiser

Class = Praetor Battle Cruiser
Manufacturer = KDY
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 4,000 meters
Crew = 32,240
Passengers= 10,240 Troops
Speed = 52 MGLT
Acceleration = 4 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 4 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 2.0 (Backup) Class 12.0
Hull = 5,280 RU
Shields = 8,860 SBD
Weapons = 60 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 120 Turbolaser Batteries, 120 Ion Cannons, 12 Tractor beam Projectors
Hangar = 72 Fighters, 12 Assault Shuttles, 6 Shuttles, 6 Drop ships 12 AT-AT Walkers, 24 AT-ST Walkers, 4 AT-AA Walkers, 24 AT-PT Walkers
Cargo =52.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 24 months

Ships of the class
Overlord

Praetor Mk II Star Battlecruiser

Class = Praetor Mk II Battle Cruiser
Manufacturer = KDY
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 4,200 meters
Crew = 22,240
Passengers= 10,240 Troops
Speed = 60 MGLT
Acceleration = 4 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 4 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 5,680 RU
Shields = 8,910 SBD
Weapons = 60 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 120 Turbolaser Batteries, 120 Ion Cannons, 12 Tractor beam Projectors
Hangar = 72 Fighters, 12 Assault Shuttles, 6 Shuttles, 6 Dropships 12 AT-AT Walkers, 24 AT-ST Walkers, 4 AT-AA Walkers, 24 AT-PT Walkers
Cargo =48.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 36 months

[Reshmar]

Procurator Star Battlecruiser

Class = Procurator Battle Cruiser
Manufacturer = KDY
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 2,500 meters
Crew = 19,9600
Passengers= 2,560 Troops
Speed = 56 MGLT
Acceleration = 5 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 4 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 3.0 (Backup) Class 15.0
Hull = 4,280 RU
Shields = 6,260 SBD
Weapons = 140 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 105 Turbolaser Batteries, 60 Concussion Missile Laucnhers (250 Missiles each), 6 Tractor beam Projectors
Hangar = 12 Shuttles
Cargo =32.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 24 months

[Reshmar]

Separatist Dreadnaught

Class = Separatist Dreadnaught
Manufacturer = Dac Free Engneers
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 2,177 meters
Crew = 18,640 (8,240 and 10,400 Droids)
Passengers= 2,560 Troops
Speed = 62 MGLT
Acceleration = 5 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 4 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 4,122 RU
Shields = 10,650 SBD (Thermal Shielding (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thermal_shields))
Weapons = 16 Quad Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 48 Turbolaser Batteries, 32 Ion Cannons, 12 Multipourpose Mass Cannons, 64 Point Defense Laser Cannons, 12 Assault Proton Torpedo Tubes (480 Assault Turpedoes), 12 Tractor Beam Projectors
Hangar = 24 Star Fighters, 12 Bombers
Cargo =56.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 48 months

The Separatist Dreadnaught is an over sized Providence Cruiser (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Providence-class_carrier/destroyer). More battleship than carrier. It was used by CIS commander as flagships. One such was the Invincable (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Invincible_(dreadnaught)) commanded by Admiral Trench over Christophsis

[Reshmar]

Secutor Star Destroyer

Class = Secutor Star Destroyer
Manufacturer = KDY
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 2,200 meters
Crew = 24,560
Passengers= 5,120 Troops
Speed = 68 MGLT
Acceleration = 5 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 6 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 3.950 RU
Shields = 7,100 SBD
Weapons = 1 Double Heavy Ion Cannon Turret, 20 Double Heavy Turbolaser Turrets, 48 Double Turbolaser Turrets, 6 Double Ion Cannon Turrets, 24 Double Point Defense Laser Cannons, 12 Tractor Beam Projectors
Hangar = 36 Tie Interceptors, 72 Tie Fighters, 36 Tie Bombers, 12 Assault Shuttles, 12 Shuttles, 6 Landers, 12 AT-AT Walkers, 16 AT-St Walkers, 3 At-AA Walkers, 12 AT-PT Walkers
Cargo =36.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 36 months

[Park Kraken]

The armament for the Secutor class Star Destroyer seems a little heavy from what I've read about the ship on Wookiepedia. Also the mention of Turrets doesn't necessarily mean that they are turrets, but rather are just used to denote the type of weapons seen on the ship models or explained by the author. Based on the size of the ship and description, plus the mentions made by weapon amounts by Wookiepedia, here are my proposed stats for the Secutor;

Wookiepedia Stats:
Topside:
16 Heavy Turrets
4 Turrets
2 Round Turrets
4 Small Turrets
Bottomside:
4 Heavy Turrets
6 Turrets
3 Small Turrets
1 Round Turrets

Reasoning for Stats:
Heavy Turrets = Heavy Weaponry
Turrets = Medium Weaponry
Round Turrets = Ion Cannons
Small Turrets = Missiles or Anti-Starfighter Laser Cannons

My Total Proposed Armament:
20 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries
10 Medium Turbolaser Cannons
3 Heavy Ion Cannons
5 Concussion Missile Launchers
*50 CM-9 Concussion Missiles
+10-20 Tractor Beam Projectors

3 Wings (216) TIE series Starfighters

[Reshmar]

What About
20 Quad Heavy Turbolaser
10 Quad Turbolaser
3 Double Heavy Ion Cannon
5 Double Turbolaser Batteries
12 Concussion Missile Launchers
24 Point Defense Laser Cannons
20 Tractor Beam Projectors

Double laser cannons would really not be visable in the pic on a ship this big. with this being a carrier I think it needs point defense.

[Anne Phoenix]

Okay that sounds good. Although for the most part Batteries have replaced Quad mounts for Turbolasers.

[Reshmar]

For what I gather these ships were designed midway through the New Order. and the Secutor is a basiclly the next gen Venator. Thats why I wanted to do doubles or quads. They were designed pretty close to the end of the clone wars I would imagine.

[Reshmar]

OK here's a Non-canon ship but I like it and if someone wants to use one here it is. I’m thinking commodore Blades might like it....

New off the Deep Core secret yards showroom floor. The Tyrant Class Multi-Role Battlecruiser.

Tyrant Class Missile Battle Cruiser
Class = Tyrant Class Battle Cruiser
Manufacturer = Deep Core shipyards
Designation = Star Battlecruiser
Length = 3,800 meters
Crew = 21,560
Passengers= 2,500 Troops
Speed = 58 MGLT
Acceleration = 4 MGLT/s
Maneuverability = 5 DPF
Hyperdrive = Class 1.0 (Backup) Class 8.0
Hull = 5.950 RU
Shields = 10,100 SBD
Weapons = 250 Assault Heavy Torpedo Octets (10 torpedoes each), 25 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 50 Turbolaser Batteries, 40 Ion Cannons, 36 Quad Laser Cannons, 12 Tractor Beam Projectors
Hangar = 36 TIE Defenders, 36 TIE Avengers
Cargo =126.000 Metric Tons
Consumables = 48 months

The Tyrant was designed and built in secret at the Deep Core yards near Byss. With the success of the Aurora Class, Imperial R&D moved on to the next phase of its multi role assault ship program. First designation as a missile Battle Cruiser saw the first design prototype, the Tyrant, armed with 250 Assault Missile Tubes. After tests, the weapons configurations was reconsidered and the Tyrant was rearmed with the Heavy Torpedo Octets Designed by Grand Admiral Desaria for the Aurora Class Star Destroyer. It retained the original Designation as Missile Battle Cruiser yet being armed with Torpedoes.

Working as a command and control vessel most commanders will sit at a distance while his forces engage the enemy and offer fire support in the form of long distance torpedo barrages. They are also used in planetary assault cracking planetary shields open with massive orbital torpedo barrages.

The Fighter Wing is a mix of the best fighters the Empire has to offer.
3 squadrons of Tie Defenders and 3 squadrons of TIE Avengers give the Tyrant a second line of defense from fighters and light warships. They aide in strike missions on imperial targets and work as attack craft in ship to ship battles.

The main battery of the Tyrant are the Heavy Torpedo Octets. These give the ship the capability of large barrage attacks. Each Octet has an enlarged ammo Case lined with four layers of durasteel fiber mesh armor. Each ammo case is independent and if hit by enemy fire will only ignite and destroy itself.

Secondary Offensive weapons come in the form of heavy and medium turbolaser, Ion cannons are equipped to assist in the bringing down of shields and disabling smaller vessels. Quad Laser Cannons offer the Tyrant defense from Fighter and bomber attack plus work as point defense from incoming projectiles such as missiles rockets, and torpedoes.

3 in the Class

After I kill them all they are gone.....