NFL Pick 'em 2011: Week 14 (THURSDAY GAME)

[Dragon]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT

Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX
KC @ NYJ
HOU @ CIN
NE @ WAS
ATL @ CAR
PHI @ MIA
NO @ TEN
IND @ BAL
MIN @ DET

CHI @ DEN
SF @ ARI
BUF @ SD
OAK @ GB

NYG @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA


Survivor Pool

12: Kyran O'Hurn: BUF, TEN, NO, SD, NYJ, DAL, SF, ATL, GB, NE, CAR, BAL
9: Dragon: ARI, DET, SD, ATL, NO, PIT, DAL, TEN, HOU, PHI, NE, CIN, NO PICK
7: Liam Jinn: SF, DAL, PIT, GB, BUF, NYJ, CAR, NO, NE, BAL, ATL, NO PICK
7: jjwr: HOU, BAL, CHI, NO, PIT, DAL, SF, KC, MIA, SEA, NYJ, ATL
4: Rutabaga: GB, SD, NO, NYG, DAL, SF, OAK, JAX, NE, PIT, NYJ
3 (x2): Ryan Pode: GB, TEN, TB, NYG, NYJ, NO, CAR, SF, MIA, NE, NO PICK, DAL
3: Yog: DEN, PIT, SD, GB, NYG, DET, DAL, SF, PHI, JAX, NO PICK, NYJ, CHI
3: Jedi Master Carr: GB, PIT, TB, NYG, JAX, NO PICK
3: Lykaios: PIT, SD, TB, NYG, BAL, DET, OAK, SF, CIN, NE, NO PICK
3: Mu Satach: DET, SD, GB, ARI, BUF, BAL, SF, NO, NO PICK

Seppuku x9
Park Kraken: TB, PHI, HOU, JAX, CAR, STL, ARI, CLE, WAS, SEA, KC, DET, IND

[Kyran O'Hurn]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT W

Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX W
KC @ NYJ W
HOU @ CIN W
NE W @ WAS
ATL W @ CAR
PHI W @ MIA
NO W @ TEN
IND @ BAL W
MIN @ DET W

CHI @ DEN
SF W @ ARI
BUF @ SD W
OAK @ GB W

NYG @ DAL W

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA W

Survivor: Tempted to pick Seattle, but going to go with Pitt.

[Miranda Tarkin]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT (W)

[Figrin D'an]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT (W)

[Park Kraken]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT (W)

Sunday, Dec 11
TB (W) @ JAX (Last Chance, Bucs. If you lose this, I'm not picking you again)
KC @ NYJ (W)
HOU (W) @ CIN
NE (W) @ WAS
ATL (W) @ CAR
PHI @ MIA (W)
NO (W) @ TEN
IND @ BAL (W)
MIN @ DET (W)

CHI @ DEN (W)
SF (W) @ ARI
BUF (W) @ SD
OAK @ GB (W)

NYG @ DAL (W)

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA (W)

Seppuku: OAK

[Dragon]

Bleh at Sunday Night. I'm really getting tired of the NFC East on national TV...

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT WIN - The Browns usually give the Steelers trouble in one of their matchups, but Pittsburgh won't be looking past them this time.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

CLE @ PIT (W)

Sunday, Dec 11
(W) TB @ JAX
KC @ NYJ (W)
HOU @ CIN (W)
(W) NE @ WAS
(W) ATL @ CAR
PHI @ MIA (W)
(W) NO @ TEN
IND @ BAL (W)
MIN @ DET (W)

CHI @ DEN (W)
(W) SF @ ARI
BUF @ SD (W)
OAK @ GB (W)

(W) NYG @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA (W)

[Morgan Evanar]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT WIN - woe unto thee Browns.

Sunday, Dec 11
WINTB @ JAX - This could go either way with how far the Bucs have regressed but Jax has been bad.
KC @ NYJ WIN
HOU @ CIN WIN - A toss up. Dre is out on top of all the other Texan injuries. Probably the most unlucky team in football right now.
WIN NE @ WAS - lol Washington
WIN ATL @ CAR - Carolina's defense is terribad.
PHI @ MIA WIN - Philly is in disarray and Miami's defense has been playing very well.
WIN NO @ TEN
IND @ BAL WIN - Unless Baltimore rests a bunch of starters, this is over.
MIN @ DET WIN - Detroit has big discipline problems but I think their talent can overcome the Vikings.

CHI @ DEN WIN - No Cutler against a nasty Denver defense.
WIN SF @ ARI - Arizona is a weird, difficult to predict team.
BUF @ SD WIN - I dunno.
OAK @ GB WIN - Oakland is who we thought they were.

NYG @ DAL WIN - NFC East is difficult to predict, but Dallas at home.

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA WIN

[Jedi Master Carr]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT W

Sunday, Dec 11
W TB @ JAX
KC @ NYJ W
HOU @ CIN W
W NE @ WAS
W ATL @ CAR
PHI @ MIA W
W NO @ TEN
IND @ BAL W
MIN @ DET W

W CHI @ DEN
W SF @ ARI
W BUF @ SD
OAK @ GB W

W NYG @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA W

[Yog]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT (W)

[Liam Jinn]

Pittsburgh

[Aurelias Kazaar]

PIT. Will fill rest later.

[Rutabaga]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT WIN

Sunday, Dec 11
TB WIN @ JAX
KC @ NYJ WIN
HOU @ CIN WIN
NE WIN @ WAS
ATL WIN @ CAR
PHI @ MIA WIN
NO WIN @ TEN
IND @ BAL WIN
MIN @ DETWIN

CHI @ DENWIN
SF WIN @ ARI
BUF @ SDWIN
OAK @ GB WIN

NYG WIN @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA WIN

[Ryan Pode]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT Win

Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX Win
KC @ NYJ Win
HOU Win @ CIN
NE Win @ WAS
ATL Win @ CAR
PHI @ MIA Win
NO Win @ TEN
IND @ BAL Win
MIN @ DET Win

CHI @ DEN
SF Win @ ARI
BUF @ SD Win
OAK @ GB Win

NYG Win @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA Win

Survivor: Seattle

[jjwr]

I didn't get a chance to post earlier but I think its fair to say Pittsburgh would be the obvious pick. If not I'll take the auto-loss, whatever the group thinks is fair.

[Park Kraken]

PHI @ MIA WIN - Philly is in disarray and Miami's defense has been playing very well.

No Morg, No! The Phins always lose when you pick them. ;)

[Rutabaga]

I forgot to do a Survivor pick...guess I'll take DEN.

[Figrin D'an]

Sunday, Dec 11
TB (W) @ JAX
KC @ NYJ (W)
HOU @ CIN (W)
NE (W) @ WAS
ATL (W) @ CAR
PHI @ MIA (W)
NO @ TEN (W)
IND @ BAL (W)
MIN @ DET (W)

CHI @ DEN (W)
SF (W) @ ARI
BUF @ SD (W)
OAK @ GB (W)

NYG (W) @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA (W)

[Morgan Evanar]

PHI @ MIA WIN - Philly is in disarray and Miami's defense has been playing very well.

No Morg, No! The Phins always lose when you pick them. ;)Pretty much but what the hell.

[Dragon]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT WIN - Roethlisberger to feature peg leg in next week's game against the 49ers.

Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX WIN
KC @ NYJ WIN
HOU @ CIN WIN
NE WIN @ WAS
ATL @ CAR WIN
PHI @ MIA WIN
NO WIN @ TEN
IND @ BAL WIN
MIN @ DET WIN

CHI @ DEN WIN
SF WIN @ ARI
BUF @ SD WIN
OAK @ GB WIN

NYG @ DAL WIN

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA WIN

[Miranda Tarkin]

Sunday, Dec 11
TB (W) @ JAX
KC @ NYJ (W)
HOU (W) @ CIN
NE (W) @ WAS
ATL (W) @ CAR
PHI @ MIA (W)
NO (W) @ TEN
IND @ BAL (W)
MIN @ DET (W)

CHI (W) @ DEN
SF (W) @ ARI
BUF @ SD (W)
OAK @ GB (W)

NYG @ DAL (W)

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA (W)

[Liam Jinn]

Sunday, Dec 11
TB (W) @ JAX
KC @ NYJ (W)
HOU (W) @ CIN
NE (W) @ WAS
ATL @ CAR (W)
PHI @ MIA (W)
NO (W) @ TEN
IND @ BAL (W)
MIN @ DET (W)

CHI @ DEN (W)
SF @ ARI (W)
BUF @ SD (W)
OAK @ GB (W)

NYG @ DAL (W)

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA (W)

[Yog]

Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX (W)
KC @ NYJ (W)
HOU @ CIN (W)
NE (W) @ WAS
ATL (W) @ CAR
PHI @ MIA (W)
NO (W) @ TEN
IND @ BAL (W)
MIN @ DET (W)

CHI @ DEN (W)
SF (W) @ ARI
BUF @ SD (W)
OAK @ GB (W)

NYG @ DAL (W)

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA (W)


Survivor: Baltimore

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX W
KC W @ NYJ
HOU W @ CIN
NE W @ WAS
ATL W @ CAR
PHI @ MIA W
NO W @ TEN
IND @ BAL W
MIN @ DET W

CHI @ DEN W
SF W @ ARI
BUF @ SD W
OAK @ GB W

NYG W @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA W

[jjwr]

Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT WIN
Sunday, Dec 11
TB @ JAX WIN
KC @ NYJ WIN
HOU @ CIN WIN
NE WIN @ WAS
ATL @ CAR WIN
PHI @ MIA WIN
NO WIN @ TEN
IND @ BAL WIN
MIN @ DET WIN

CHI @ DEN WIN
SF WIN @ ARI
BUF @ SD WIN
OAK @ GB WIN

NYG WIN @ DAL

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA WIN

[Morgan Evanar]

No Jake Long and Matt Moore is out. We are so screwed.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I didn't see Philly beating Miami and Houston coming back surprised me. I didn't think they had a chance there. I tell you if Shaub hadn't gotten hurt they would be a SB contender.

[Park Kraken]

Okay, we just began the 2nd quarter, we have a 14-0 Lead over the Jaguars, I think we can call it a day. :twak

[Kyran O'Hurn]

Well I goofed... Went to check who I picked in this CHI-DEN game and seems I picked noone... So since it's in OT now, if they end in a tie does that count as a tie? :p


Oh well...

I can't believe the Broncos. I don't believe in a higher power, but if there is one he/she seems to definitely be on the side of Tebow and the Broncos.

On another note Barber better hope he get's to make up for basically costing the Bears the game.

Edit: After that fumble I present tomorrow's headlines today... "Barber cut by Bears"

[Jedi Master Carr]

I don't think God cares about football, because if God does than he is has priorities in the wrong place. And screw Tebow, as a chiefs fan I have an even bigger reason to loath him. They aren't going anywhere in the playoffs. They will get the Steelers or Ravens first and either one will dominate them.

[CMJ]

That was simply amazing by the Broncos.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well, it helped the Bears blew the game. Barber ran out of of bounds giving them 35 extra seconds. Without those 35 seconds they would have never gotten into FG range. And then Barber fumbles the ball at the 30 yard line. Barber is a huge goat right now for the Bears. It sucks for them that Forte is done for the year. The Bears are in big trouble. I could see them losing 2 out of their next 3 games and finishing 8-8. They aren't making the playoffs considering how they played the last two weeks.

[CMJ]

Well in just about every close game you can say stuff like that? The Broncos just believe. I mean it sounds hokey, but I really think it comes down to their collective will right now.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think that stuff will only go so far. I don't see them advancing in the playoffs against the better teams of like Baltimore and Pittsburgh. I think they will get their asses handed to them. Talent is an important thing, and they are as talented as those two teams. And if you ask the Steeler and Ravens players they probably believe in themselves. Sure they will make the playoffs, but their better enjoy the experience because it won't last long. I know I sound like a hater but as a Chiefs fan I should be. I have never given any of the other three teams any credit and will always hate them.

[CMJ]

For a team that started off 1-4, I think they'd be fine with just making the playoffs.

[Figrin D'an]

The Broncos are winning for 3 key reasons, IMO.

1) Relatively easy schedule... since their bye week, they are 7-1, with wins over Miami, Oakland, Kansas City, the New York Jets, San Diego, Minnesota, and Chicago. Several of those teams were injury plagued at key spots when Denver got them.

2) The Broncos defense keeps them in games. They've done a good job of keeping teams out of the end zone, and generate some turnovers when necessary.

3) Attitude. Tebow, if nothing else, has helped to give the Broncos a "never-say-die" attitude. As much as I think his quarterbacking skill is still very lacking in a lot of areas, the kid has natural charisma and leadership skills that are off the charts.


I agree that Denver, should they hang on and win the AFC West, will likely get destroyed in the playoffs. We could get a preview of this next week when the Patriots go into Denver. However, it's at least an entertaining story for this season.

[Morgan Evanar]

I italicized my incorrect picks.
Thursday, Dec 8
CLE @ PIT WIN - woe unto thee Browns.

Sunday, Dec 11
WINTB @ JAX - This could go either way with how far the Bucs have regressed but Jax has been bad.
KC @ NYJ WIN
HOU @ CIN WIN - A toss up. Dre is out on top of all the other Texan injuries. Probably the most unlucky team in football right now.
WIN NE @ WAS - lol Washington
WIN ATL @ CAR - Carolina's defense is terribad.
PHI @ MIA WIN - Philly is in disarray and Miami's defense has been playing very well.
WIN NO @ TEN
IND @ BAL WIN - Unless Baltimore rests a bunch of starters, this is over.
MIN @ DET WIN - Detroit has big discipline problems but I think their talent can overcome the Vikings.

CHI @ DEN WIN - No Cutler against a nasty Denver defense.
WIN SF @ ARI - Arizona is a weird, difficult to predict team.
BUF @ SD WIN - I dunno.
OAK @ GB WIN - Oakland is who we thought they were.

NYG @ DAL WIN - NFC East is difficult to predict, but Dallas at home.

Monday, Dec 12
STL @ SEA WIN

wth San Fran.

[Jedi Master Carr]

The Chiefs fire Todd Haley
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/73447 ... g-team-5-8

This is surprising to me, considering the injuries the Chiefs faced. I thought he get a pass for this season. My guess him and the General Manager do not get along at all. So, now they need to find a new coach. I am sure they will ask Bill Cowher since he was the defense coordinator there years ago. If rejects them, I am not sure where they will go. I think they need someone with more experience this time. I do have to say he did a horrible job preparing this team in the offseason and that could have been a big factor in his firing. I mean they looked awful in their first two games and looked lost. There are also rumors on ESPN that they considered firing him after the playoff loss, which shows they were unhappy with him for other reasons.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Miami fires Sporano not sure if he deserves to be fired. Probably, expect an onslaught of coaches fired. I am sure it is a matter a time for Norv Turner and maybe even Andy Reid.

[Morgan Evanar]

Sporano is an ok coach but he has an outdated philosophy of ball control which is not very important with the quick strike offenses that dominate the league. It was very telling last year that even though they had 2 touchdown leads in the 4th on New Orleans and Indy that they lost anyway. It is because the Dolphins didn't keep trying to score and Manning and Brees own.

The person they really need to fire is Jeff Ireland.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well the Chiefs and Dolphins both have bad offenses. I suppose one of them could bring in the Saints OC Pete Carmichael, Jr. He would put in a Saints style system to either one of those teams. Of course, you would need a QB in both cases.

[Figrin D'an]

I'm not sure I see Cowher seriously considering going to the Chiefs. He'll want a level of control over personnel decisions and football operations that I don't think will fly with Scott Pioli running the ship.

Sporano getting canned isn't a surprise, although I agree that Ireland needs to go as well.

Raheem Morris and Steve Spagnolo are both as good as fired, IMO. Jim Caldwell will take the fall for the Colt's season from hell. Norv Turner is probably in trouble. Andy Reid, even though I think it would be a huge mistake for the Eagles to get rid of him, is probably 50-50 at this point. I have a feeling there will be one unexpected firing as well... like maybe a Kent Whisenhunt or a Lovie Smith.

Could be a very messy coaching carousel to start the new year.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I'm not sure I see Cowher seriously considering going to the Chiefs. He'll want a level of control over personnel decisions and football operations that I don't think will fly with Scott Pioli running the ship.

Sporano getting canned isn't a surprise, although I agree that Ireland needs to go as well.

Raheem Morris and Steve Spagnolo are both as good as fired, IMO. Jim Caldwell will take the fall for the Colt's season from hell. Norv Turner is probably in trouble. Andy Reid, even though I think it would be a huge mistake for the Eagles to get rid of him, is probably 50-50 at this point. I have a feeling there will be one unexpected firing as well... like maybe a Kent Whisenhunt or a Lovie Smith.

Could be a very messy coaching carousel to start the new year.

Norv Turner will be fired, I agree with the rest and you are right about Reid. It will be close with him. As for the Chiefs and Cowher, I figure they might inquire but yeah you are right he will want way too much control. I think Jeff Fisher is more likely if they want to get a big name. Fisher's name will be a popular name for most of the teams.

[Dragon]

Sorry this is late, everybody! On the matter of jjwr's late Thursday pick, nobody spoke up, so you'll have to face my arbitrary judgment. In honor of James Harrison, you are hereby suspended one week without pay!

...or not. But I'm afraid getting your picks in by kickoff is pretty much our only rule. We gave a little leeway in the case of the noon Thanksgiving game a couple weeks back, but we've had Thursday night games several weeks in a row now. Plus, it increases the drama at the top spot! With that, on to the tally:


Week 14 Tally

Aurelias Kazaar: 13-3
Ryan Pode: 13-3
Kyran O'Hurn: 12-4
Liam Jinn: 12-4
Nathanial K'cansce: 12-4
Park Kraken: 12-4
Rutabaga: 12-4
Yog: 12-4
Figrin D'an: 11-5
Dragon: 11-5
jjwr: 11-5
Morgan Evanar: 11-5
Jedi Master Carr: 10-6
Miranda Tarkin: 10-6
Lykaois: 9-7 (did not pick)


Total Tally

1. jjwr: 144-64

2. Kyran O'Hurn: 143-65
3. Rutabaga: 141-67
4. Yog: 140-68
5. Figrin D'an: 137-71
6. Dragon: 136-72
6. Morgan Evanar: 136-72
8. Miranda Tarkin: 134-74
8. Ryan Pode: 134-74
10. Jedi Master Carr: 132-76
11. Park Kraken: 131-77
12. Liam Jinn: 129-79
13. Nathanial K'cansce: 128-80
14. Aurelias Kazaar: 126-82
15. Lykaios: 110-98


Survivor Pool

13
Kyran O'Hurn: BUF, TEN, NO, SD, NYJ, DAL, SF, ATL, GB, NE, CAR, BAL, PIT

9
Dragon: ARI, DET, SD, ATL, NO, PIT, DAL, TEN, HOU, PHI, NE, CIN, NO PICK

7
Liam Jinn: SF, DAL, PIT, GB, BUF, NYJ, CAR, NO, NE, BAL, ATL, NO PICK
jjwr: HOU, BAL, CHI, NO, PIT, DAL, SF, KC, MIA, SEA, NYJ, ATL, NO PICK

5
Rutabaga: GB, SD, NO, NYG, DAL, SF, OAK, JAX, NE, PIT, NYJ, DEN

3
Ryan Pode: GB, TEN, TB, NYG, NYJ, NO, CAR, SF, MIA, NE, NO PICK, DAL, SEA
Yog: DEN, PIT, SD, GB, NYG, DET, DAL, SF, PHI, JAX, NO PICK, NYJ, CHI, BAL
Jedi Master Carr: GB, PIT, TB, NYG, JAX, NO PICK
Lykaios: PIT, SD, TB, NYG, BAL, DET, OAK, SF, CIN, NE, NO PICK
Mu Satach: DET, SD, GB, ARI, BUF, BAL, SF, NO, NO PICK

Seppuku x9
Park Kraken: TB, PHI, HOU, JAX, CAR, STL, ARI, CLE, WAS, SEA, KC, DET, IND, OAK