Alliance and Jedi - V. Important Information

[Jane Starborn]

http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21154

A Strawman is finally complete (it only took a year!), and it has got an info bomb in it for the Alliance. If you are still interested in RPing as your Jedi or Alliance member you should probably read the thread, but I will summarize it as well in spoiler tags, lol.

Keep in mind, the information revealed is very much NEED TO KNOW, so this is OOC information for you, not IC information for your characters. But Intel will be disseminating the info as time goes on, to people they can trust, or THINK they can trust.

Summary:
Jane Starborn and Eluna Thals go to the Dauntless to investigate rumors of a mystery prisoner on board, during their search for the missing Byl Laprovik. Because of the potential that Byl went MIA while tracking down a traitor to the Rebellion, their mission is completely secret, and Jane does not even trust Director Van-Derveld with the recent details of it, calling her mother Celeste Starborn instead, who sends Dashiel Starborn to help the other two agents.

They uncover a secret prisoner, but it is Jedi Zem Vymes, not Byl Laprovik. Surprised, the Intel agents take him into their custody and escape Fourth Fleet immediately, before General Dan can do anything about it. Zem proceeds to tell Jane that General Dan is a Sith on par with Palpatine, Lok s'Ilancy is still a Jedi but blackmailed and under his sway due to threats to her children, and there is a third party, a Sith Darth Acera.

Understandably, the three Intel agents are going to be proceeding with extreme caution.

Any questions?

[Dasquian Belargic]

dun Dun DUNNNNNNN

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Mayhaps we can save the Wheel and the Jedi from evil Darth Dan!

What if we can't? :ohno

[Dasquian Belargic]

If you want a Jedi to help out, I can volunteer Bryna. Maybe she is aware that Jane and co were the ones to reveal evil Darth Dan's true colours in her version of the future!

[Jane Starborn]

Could be! Sounds like a good idea to me. I don't know that Intel will be keen on the idea, but if Grace vets Bryna's story then I guess it would be cool. :p

http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?p=367656#post367656 New thread, continuing from Strawman - Jane reports on the events of Strawman to Celeste Starborn.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Posting from my phone, so I'll save my more lengthy thoughts and intentions until I get home, but in a nutshell i'd been planning/hoping for a small civil war to spring up between the Jedi and a good portion of the Alliance. I certainly don't see all of the Alliance moving in lock-step with Dan, but those that do would definitely pose a threat. Of course by this time s'Il will be cast from the Wheel and seen by the rest of the Jedi for what she's become.

More to come later :)

[Naomi Lang]

So....uhm.....the Alliance/Jedi do have a former (....maybe) Inquisitorial Agent that's been sitting around in a brig for nearly 9 months.

Actually helped you crazies bust the Jedi Serena off of Imperial Centre.

Also helped the Deputy Director of Intel escape off the original prison ship she was kept on after the Inquisition sent a kill-team to off Lang.


She's been really bored in her cell with only the gym available.

:)

[Morgan Evanar]

:monocle: This is amaaaaaazing.

[Sanis Prent]

Remember when we could get banned for shit like this, kids?

:cool

Not to flex nuts or nothin', but that's some gangsta shit right there.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Ok! I am home, and using a keyboard that isn't teeny tiny.

As far as the civil war, I think it would be a very fun test of loyalty for some peoples' characters; where they fall on which side, how they feel about the divide, etc. Like I said before, though Dan is firmly entrenched with the Alliance and has been with them since they first began, his sphere of influence goes out only so far, so it's understandable that not all would rally at his side. But those that do I'm sure would follow him without question.

s'Il in all of this would of course make herself out to be a victim and betrayed by the Order, and would use her position to show that the Jedi are rife with infighting and as a group, are a threat to the Alliance.

Now, I don't really see this whole thing to be a huge deal in terms of a protracted, unending series of threads. More like a confined series of events that are hard-hitting and work toward a final engagement between Dan and s'Il. I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say that s'Il will be redeemed, and her last confrontation with Dan will be something akin to the battle in the Mutara Nebula (a la Wrath of Khan) with fleet action for anyone who has pilots.

Which is another thing - this would prove to be an interesting time for the Rogues, and where they choose to remain and whose side they fight for n all of this.


If anyone has any questions, please please please ask and I'll answer, as I'm sure there are things that I forgot :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

is there a part Vega could play in all this? =D

[Nikolai Odell]

Which is another thing - this would prove to be an interesting time for the Rogues, and where they choose to remain and whose side they fight for n all of this.

While I'm not all that active with Star Wars right now, I figured I'd chime in with a thought on the above point. In EU, there was a time when Rogue Squadron resigned (sort of) from the Alliance, and so the Rebels / New Republic / whoever they were at the time built a new one.

It might be interesting to take the rebel pilots that we have, and put them on opposite sides of the fence: the "real" Rogue Squadron with Dan, versus the "legitimate" Rogue Squadron with the Wheel. Not only does that give us some pilot action, and the possibility of going up each other... but when the dust settles, and they try to "put the band back together", there could be some interesting friction as a result.

And if we're going for a rumble with Dan, I might potentially be arm-twisted into bringing Commodore Tyree out of retirement. :ohno

(Have a fleeter from the Fourth Fleet to back you up as well Dan, if you need one.)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

s'Il would definitely use Vega as a hunter/assassin, and send him after the masters. Not to mention, a rematch between Nav and Vega would be suweeeet :cool

Where exactly is Naomi being held? On the Wheel, or on a different Alliance battlegroup?

As far as s'Il/Acera is concerned, and her 'fall', I've always played her succumbing to the Dark Side as though it was something like cancer. There would be times when she was in her right mind, like a remission of sorts, but those times grew fewer and farther between until she's fully taken over. However, during those times of clarity, she took it upon herself to indirectly help the Jedi by secretly providing them with tools that they would need for Dan's second purge against them. Using her position on the Wheel, she's been able to squirrel away little things here and there for them without them knowing until the time would be right; whether it be repair parts, an extra cache of missiles here and there, extra medical supplies, stuff like that. It's not something that would be apparent right off the bat, but as time goes on and things inevitably go from bad to worse (like they do), it will become a bit more clear what s'Il had been able to do and put away for the Jedi. Jace and I had planned to do a thread where Inyos and s'Il find a small amount of old Jedi Interceptor starfighters and bring them back to the wheel, but sadly that thread never got any legs beneath it :( Jace, if you're still game, we can always do a sort of abridged version of that thread :)

Holly, I'll text you later today since there's a small side-thread that I've been dying to do with Serena and s'Il which involves one of those helpful little trinkets ;)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Okay, sounds good.

[Dasquian Belargic]

We needs must scheme >D

[Vince]

I'd love to get Tell Cho involved in such a war, if possible.

[Jane Starborn]

http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20875 those with Alliance Command access, here's what Jane Starborn and Eluna Thals have been up to, leading to A Strawman and the current Crossing the Rubicon.

[Navaria Tarkin]

Did someone say rematch?

[Emelie Shadowstar]

:o Well now this sounds like a mighty perfect time to see if I can fit it in timelineish wise for this to be when Charlotte has her temporary stay upon the Wheel... since I wanted to do that soonish anyway. Pretty sure it could work out! And with Vega lurking about! oh my!

...now I need to catch Jenny online too. :lol

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Keep in mind all Force users in the Alliance are now going to be regarded with a healthy amount of suspicion , doubly so if they are not a Jedi. Wheel Jedi are going to be dealt with in one way, but if you're an Alliance member and a Force adept too then Intel is going to have to figure out how to make sure you're not working with Dan and a secret Sith. For instance, LD is an Alliance member, known as a Force adept (just that she used to be a Jedi padawan, not her current skill level of course), so she'll be under suspicion of being a secret Sith working with Dan. Which she isn't. She's a secret Dark Jedi working with Salem Ave. So confusing!

I believe, per Jane and Celeste Starborn's current conversation in [B]Crossing the Rubicon, that Intel is going to impose a medical quarantine on the Wheel, effectively cutting it off from Lok s'Ilancy and any other people who may want to join/rejoin the convoy, and conduct extensive medical screenings/interviews to talk to the Jedi and try to figure out how they can make sure Sith stuff isn't imbedded into the Jedi Enclave.

[Jane Starborn]

Also, with having to figure out if you can trust Force users to be light or Dark or whatever... it occurs to me that the one person who might be uniquely qualified to deal with Force users is in the brig - Naomi Lang. And obviously we already know she's not on our side, but the enemy of our enemy is our friend for a little while? Maybe? Anyway its probably safe to assume she's not on Dan's side but :uhoh... once you start wondering how deep the rabbit hole goes you begin to realize it might be endless...

[Naomi Lang]

Huh, never thought of that, but it is true. Been trying to do some scheming with Christin, but our work shift conflict apparently :p

I'm usually on AIM in the evenings so feel free to hit me up whenever or just send a PM.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Sorry ^_^; I've been on second shift all week, but at least I'm able to check things from my phone on break. I haven't responded to your PM since I wanted to wait till I got home and on to a proper computer :)

[Hera]

I believe, per Jane and Celeste Starborn's current conversation in Crossing the Rubicon, that Intel is going to impose a medical quarantine on the Wheel, effectively cutting it off from Lok s'Ilancy and any other people who may want to join/rejoin the convoy, and conduct extensive medical screenings/interviews to talk to the Jedi and try to figure out how they can make sure Sith stuff isn't imbedded into the Jedi Enclave.

The Jedi should not, NOT let this happen.

Bring on the civil war.

[Serena Laran]

Well, the Jedi can't really stop Intel from imposing a medical quarantine. *shrug*

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Ahaha!! I get it :lol :lol


Poor Henry :p

[Hera]

Well, the Jedi can't really stop Intel from imposing a medical quarantine. *shrug*

Really? Dont they have guns and lightsabers etc? Why would the Jedi just roll over and allow the Alliance to do this to them?
Surely, there are going to be some of the more senior Jedi that would resent this. :/


And yes, Henry is going to be quite conflicted, but you know who's side he's on ;)

[Dasquian Belargic]

^ I think you're right about the Jedi. Not all of them will want to co-operate.

[Tear]

I'm really curious to see how the alliance attempts to prove out who are Sith/Dark Jedi. Are there tests to do this or do you basically have to trick the person into exposing themselves?

This would definitly come off like a Witch hunt to some people. Government type peeps quarantining your people because some of you are suspected to be evil. It's discrimination I say!;)

[Dasquian Belargic]

There in lies the dilemma! They have got no real way of sussing out who's guilty, unless one of the Jedi works with them. Even then, the Jedi working with them could be deceiving them. Star Wars meets The Crucible! :ohno

[Amos Iakona]

^ I think you're right about the Jedi. Not all of them will want to co-operate.

Indeed. Less talky-talky, more stabby-stabby. :colbert


My main thought at the moment is: "Where the hell are we going with this?"

I don't want to jump to any conclusions based on a single paragraph. And I don't deny that it's a logical in-character course of action. But out of character, what are the benefits of doing this, and how do they balance up against the inevitable "trust issues" that the Jedi are going to have with the Alliance as a result?

[Naomi Lang]

There in lies the dilemma! They have got no real way of sussing out who's guilty, unless one of the Jedi works with them. Even then, the Jedi working with them could be deceiving them. Star Wars meets The Crucible! :ohno

Ask an Inquisitor for help.

[Droo]

"I saw Goody Tarkin dancing naked with the devil!"

This all sounds very awesome. :)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

My main thought at the moment is: "Where the hell are we going with this?"

I don't want to jump to any conclusions based on a single paragraph. And I don't deny that it's a logical in-character course of action. But out of character, what are the benefits of doing this, and how do they balance up against the inevitable "trust issues" that the Jedi are going to have with the Alliance as a result?

Essentially, this is a very large, defining event for s'Il and a part of her story, and I've been working up to this for a long period of time. At the very core of the latter half of the conflict will be s'Il vs Dan with the Jedi and the Alliance swept up into it.

Unless you're talking about the quarantine :huh

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

"I saw Goody Tarkin dancing naked with the devil!"

This all sounds very awesome. :)

Now you're getting it!

And yes, I love bringing the crucible up in any possible conversation.

[Hera]

Essentially, this is a very large, defining event for s'Il and a part of her story, and I've been working up to this for a long period of time. At the very core of the latter half of the conflict will be s'Il vs Dan with the Jedi and the Alliance swept up into it.

Unless you're talking about the quarantine :huh

Dont misunderstand me, I think Intel should absolutely go ahead and try to do this. My comment was that the Jedi should not simply bend over and allow it. And isnt this the whole purpose of the story arc?

s'Il is an honored and revered Jedi, but the Alliance black listing her and accusing her of things will piss the Jedi off of course, but would not be a reason for civil war to break out. However, the Alliance suddenly suspecting all the Jedi and knee-jerk reacting with imposed testing and embargos and quarrantines - that is another story all together. In fact, I dont see how a war could be prompted without the Alliance doing something as aggressive as trying to force such testing their heretofore friends..

What I am saying is, dont expect it to be successful and that the Jedi will all meekly undergo this testing (whatever that is, btw. Good question Tear :)).
To say that the Jedi cant really stop the Intel from doing this is not feasible, imo.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Well, the Alliance as a whole wouldn't blacklist s'Il in any way, so there's no real worry of that happening :) The only ones who would know for certain what she's become would be the Jedi, and that's because Zem will be informing the Masters/Council when he arrives at the Wheel.

The basic way I see it, in terms of who will be going up against who, is the Wheel and parts of Intel against the Fourth Fleet.

[Dasquian Belargic]

There in lies the dilemma! They have got no real way of sussing out who's guilty, unless one of the Jedi works with them. Even then, the Jedi working with them could be deceiving them. Star Wars meets The Crucible! :ohno

Ask an Inquisitor for help.

I'd say an Inquisitor's word is about as trustworthy as a Jedi's in this scenario :p

[Captain Untouchable]

My main thought at the moment is: "Where the hell are we going with this?"

I don't want to jump to any conclusions based on a single paragraph. And I don't deny that it's a logical in-character course of action. But out of character, what are the benefits of doing this, and how do they balance up against the inevitable "trust issues" that the Jedi are going to have with the Alliance as a result?

Essentially, this is a very large, defining event for s'Il and a part of her story, and I've been working up to this for a long period of time. At the very core of the latter half of the conflict will be s'Il vs Dan with the Jedi and the Alliance swept up into it.

Unless you're talking about the quarantine :huh

It was the quarantine I was referring to specifically, yeah.

Like Tear says, we're at the edge of witch hunt territory. If we go down the Intel interviews road, there's a potential can of worms being opened. We've got Jedi who love. We've got Jedi who get angry and agressive. We've got Jedi who have done terrible things; and others who don't resemble the classic idea of a Jedi at all. There are quite a lot of people on the Wheel who could get accused of being "witches".

It's also worth considering how the isolation of the Wheel actually happens. While the "Well, the Jedi can't really stop Intel from imposing a medical quarantine," argument is certainly true, I'm with Hera: that approach is likely to be greeted with reluctance and mistrust, if not outright resistance and defiance. There might be a very different reaction if the Alliance Council were to convince the Jedi Council to ask the members of the Wheel to "volunteer" for interviews, rather than it being forced, for example.

Here's a thought - we've already mentioned that the Dan/s'Il war is potentially going to split the Rebellion. What if Dan is somehow involved in influencing Intel into overreacting with their quarantine? From his pespective, destroying the trust between the Jedi and the Rebels might be a good way of weakening his opponent.

[Tear]

There in lies the dilemma! They have got no real way of sussing out who's guilty, unless one of the Jedi works with them. Even then, the Jedi working with them could be deceiving them. Star Wars meets The Crucible! :ohno

Ask an Inquisitor for help.

I'd say an Inquisitor's word is about as trustworthy as a Jedi's in this scenario :p

Even less so! Could you imagine? Not only is Rebel intel conducting a quarantine and interviews to find out who might be 'sith'. Now they have recruited an Inquisitor. Someone who has hunted and killed many of the people friends, family, masters, apprentices of those who live on the wheel.

That's like going into a local prison, recruiting a serial killer(who has likely killed your cousin), and sitting them down in a room to aid in an interview because they know how to detect 'the badness' that might exist in your family.

It would be so wrong! I hope you guys do it because I want to read that thread.:lol

Oh, back to my first question. I remember creating Naomi as a non force sensitive human, has that changed? I know Inquisitors specialize in finding out if someone is force sensitive but I'm still curious to see how they would differentiate between light and dark. In a combat situation or chasing the Jedi/Sith down it would be easy. The subject is likely to preform actions in a light or dark way. But barring slapping a mood ring on them and watching to see if it turns black I still can't figure out how it would be done.

Maybe you guys should waterboard them.;)

I hope no one takes these comments as a negative/naysaying thing(because they aren't at all). I think the above should be all be followed through, minus the water boarding. I think Intel should be pushed to such extreme with this news that they would reach out to ludicrous means to try to ensure the past doesn't repeat itself (at the same time almost causing the past to repeat again! Its beautiful really.) It all hinges on perspective of this schism between two groups. I think this whole concept between Dan/Si'l Intel/Jedi is awesome! I'm really looking forward to reading these threads.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I really don't want to give anything away, but there definitely is something in the works that will make the Alliance seriously question whether the Jedi truly can be trusted.

[Naomi Lang]

I'd say an Inquisitor's word is about as trustworthy as a Jedi's in this scenario :p

Even less so! Could you imagine? Not only is Rebel intel conducting a quarantine and interviews to find out who might be 'sith'. Now they have recruited an Inquisitor. Someone who has hunted and killed many of the people friends, family, masters, apprentices of those who live on the wheel.

That's like going into a local prison, recruiting a serial killer(who has likely killed your cousin), and sitting them down in a room to aid in an interview because they know how to detect 'the badness' that might exist in your family.

It would be so wrong! I hope you guys do it because I want to read that thread.:lol

I never said it was a good or logical idea. :lol



Oh, back to my first question. I remember creating Naomi as a non force sensitive human, has that changed? I know Inquisitors specialize in finding out if someone is force sensitive but I'm still curious to see how they would differentiate between light and dark. In a combat situation or chasing the Jedi/Sith down it would be easy. The subject is likely to preform actions in a light or dark way. But barring slapping a mood ring on them and watching to see if it turns black I still can't figure out how it would be done.

Correct she's not force sensitive so honestly there's no real way for her to help out. She's a soldier with a penchant for technical know-how (and a sarcastic streak) as you created her a while back.

Doesn't mean the alliance or the jedi have to know that right away.


Maybe you guys should waterboard them.;)

Agreed!;)


I hope no one takes these comments as a negative/naysaying thing(because they aren't at all). I think the above should be all be followed through, minus the water boarding.

Awwww....see that's why an inquisitor should be hired. Damn alliance can't even do an interrogation correctly.

And no, no offense taken. You bring up very valid points.

[The Citadel]

I really don't want to give anything away, but there definitely is something in the works that will make the Alliance seriously question whether the Jedi truly can be trusted.

I'm with Tear on the whole I hope this doesn't seem like naysaying / this story concept is awesome thing. I'm also really looking forward to reading how this all plays out, and I don't want spoilers of the ending or anything.

That said, what happens to people like Barton Henning, Charlotte Tur'enne, and Amos Iakona after all this? They all work closely with the Rebels, but are also tied to the Jedi. What happens to Rogue Squadron too - do they get reassigned elsewhere because the Rebellion doesn't want to waste resources protecting a group that they don't trust; or worse, are they forced to be part of implementing the quarantine / protecting the galaxy from the untrustworthy Jedi?

I'm most definately not saying "Lets not do this." I'm just curious to know a little more than nothing about how this is going to affect me, my characters, and the characters they interact with.

I guess I'm just a teensy bit nervous of whatever it is that I don't know. I'd like to be proactive in responding to all this, rather than waiting until all is said and done and then thinking "I wish I'd done..." or "I wish I'd been part of..." :)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

The main thing to remember in all of this, is that Dan's Rebels (Fourth Fleet) are essentially a broken arrow. They don't represent the Alliance as a whole. That's why I said in the beginning that this would be a small civil war. It would be ludicrous to just herd the whole of the Alliance into this. I apologize if I wasn't clear on this before.

[Jane Starborn]

Ok there was a ton of text since my last post, and I haven't read it all yet, but the quarantine is a medical one - a pretext to be sure but one the Jedi shouldn't argue with. The main course of action for the agents brought to the Wheel will be (as I see it anyway) to contact the Council and let them know about dan being a possible Sith, try to get their help in confirming it if the Jedi want to be involved.

Also the Medical Quarantine keeps Dan from implanting more agents on the Wheel. The questioning of Force users would probably be restricted to those with the Alliance who are not Jedi. Letting the Jedi police their own is probably best. Right?

Or I guess we can start burning people at the stake, if that's what you guys want.;)

Edit: keep in mind IC it's been like three or four hours since Jane found Zem and got his information about Dan. There will be more conversations and planning by Intel before anything happens. But buttoning up the Wheel is top priority - for the Jedi's PROTECTION. Dan wants to destroy them and his timetable just got moved up quite a bit.

[Tear]

*Points at S'il* She turned me into a newt!
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[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Oh ha ha :p




I've got my eye on you ;)

[Nikolai Odell]

Holly - I'm not sure that letting the Jedi police their own would work. Isn't the whole point to reassure the Alliance that the Jedi are "free from the taint of darkness", or something like that? If the Alliance doesn't trust that the Jedi are free of darkness and corruption, then why would they take the Jedi's word for it that the non-Alliance people are still good guys?

Don't underestimate the power of a politician's paranoia. ;)

Once again, I'm not saying this shouldn't be done. I think it's an awesome idea. I just think we need to be realistic in the kind of fallout it causes. We're going to wind up with a whole bunch of Jedi who feel betrayed by the Alliance - which is a big deal, given how they've been in hiding for decades and what-not.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Look, in this situation nothing 'will work.' Its a horrible awful messed up situation.

At this point no politicians know anything about it. Keeping it quiet is top priority. Of course, if Dan or s'Il choose to leak the information out to cause chaos, then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Planning out things long term is not something I'm too keen on - I'd prefer to look to the next step and move on from there because there are so many moving pieces and so many choices each involved RPer can make. So the next step is the medical quarantine, which serves to keep Dan away from the Wheel and ensures the safety of the Jedi for another week or so (providing Dan has no agents on the Challenger, but like I said, Intel will be looking for them).

Drowning the action in a sea of OOC words is the RP killer. ;)

edit: just so people know, I am aware that these events will likely split the Jedi from the Alliance and dent the trust in each other. In case people thought I thought otherwise. O_o

[Nikolai Odell]

Planning out things long term is not something I'm too keen on.

It's a good job that no one else on the Wheel has long term plans that might be affected by any sweeping changes you make to the status quo...

Oh, wait. ;)

No one is asking for long term planning. But I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a little vague speculation on the immediate, short term consequences of your actions. You are about to give the Wheel a bit of a shake-up after all.

As I've said in every post so far though: this is an awesome idea and arc, that I am very much looking forward to reading. I really don't want to drown your idea with discussion, and if that is what I am at risk of doing, I sincerely apologise.

I've said my piece; I'll leave you kids to have fun, and will hold off on rping until after the dust has settled and there's a clearer picture of what is going on. :)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Growing pains my friend, growing pains :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Since this whole arc is a direct result of Charley and Christin's RPing since the very start of the reset, I'm just not quite sure how this is all being pinned on me. I mean, sure, I brought everyone's attention to it with an OOC thread and this is here for discussion. Which there has been quite a bit of, to be honest. I call that a success.

[Nikolai Odell]

No one is pinning anything on you, Holly. You just happen to be the main person reacting to questions, so you're the only one who can have quotes included.

Please stop taking everything so personally. :(

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Holly is cool. Holly just chills out and totally relaxes. "Take it easy" is her motto, for example. That's how laid back she is ;)

[Droo]

That's our Holly: laid back, and takes it easy...

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Droo!!!!

:lol

[Katrin Laran]

That's our Holly: laid back, and takes it easy...

Wow, Christin really softballed that one in there. Way to capitalize.

[Morgan Evanar]

That's our Holly: laid back, and takes it easy...Hahahahahah woooow.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I think that it's a good time for Zem to speak to the Council aboard the Wheel :) Unless anybody else calls dibs on starting that thread, I'll tell Charley to do it.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I'm ready and waiting to take part :)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

And here we go down down down :)

Revelations and End Times (http://75.126.43.122/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=22042)

[Charlotte Tur'enne]

whee :dance

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Here's another thought :)

Seeing as how Dan is rather concerned that the Wheel is going to vanish, what if s'Il had placed homing beacons of a sort on each ship in the Wheel? Of course over time these would be found, but it would give us a chance to do an awesome cat and mouse fleet-scale chase thread like the first BSG episode from season one, 33.

[Hera]

If the fleet ever finds the Wheel, that would be major hoop-age for them. Few would live through it, I would think. And all would be scattered.
Again :(

[Morgan Evanar]

That would be pretty neat but hiding those would be difficult considering how paranoid the Wheel is about being tracked.

[Taataani Meorrrei]

I wouldn't want beacons on every ship, that would get old fast, but I could almost see having one on Challenger or something. I mean, the Wheel's survived a near miss before in Imperial Entanglements, so it's possible.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Very true. Like I said, was just a thought :)



Edit - This certainly wouldn't be a series type of thing; if folks like it, it'd be one thread only.

[Vansen Tyree]

Just some thinking out loud -

There aren't many player-controlled characters on the Challenger. In a 33 style scenario, the Rogues are likely to be airborne, and since most of the Jedi are on the Whaledon... not much of a search party. Could well end up being another "the Wheel gets attacked, and the Jedi can't do much about it" thread.

However, if we put the tracker on the Whaledon herself, we'd be able to have the rest of the Wheel jump away with the other Rebel ships, while the Challenger and Whaledon stay put. That gives the Jedi the opportunity to participate in tearing the ship apart looking for the tracker.


On a separate note entirely: if this takes place after the s'Ilancy / Inyos thread, there'll be access to Jedi Starfighters for some people to make use of. They don't have hyperdrives, so they'll need to land before the Challenger jumps to hyperspace... but we've got a decent enough mix of ships with and without hyperdrives that we can be all cool and tactical about it.

[Jane Starborn]

Just fyi - Jane isn't calling the shots on the Wheel/quarantine/whatever you're doing thing, that is the Director now as she is in the loop (notified 'off camera') and Celeste Starborn as the senior alliance members who know what's going on.

At least, that was what I thought. :)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

On a separate note entirely: if this takes place after the s'Ilancy / Inyos thread, there'll be access to Jedi Starfighters for some people to make use of. They don't have hyperdrives, so they'll need to land before the Challenger jumps to hyperspace... but we've got a decent enough mix of ships with and without hyperdrives that we can be all cool and tactical about it.

This does take place after the Inyos/s'Il thread :) I'd say their little adventure happens a month prior to Zem speaking with the Council.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay stupid questions: How are sides being chosen? Are people being recruited or the lines already drawn?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

The only lines really being drawn are with Dan's task group. They're in lock-step with him.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I do like the idea of the tracker being on the Whaladon, and yeah it makes a lot more sense to have it there rather than the Challenger.

Yay? Nay?

[Droo]

Absolutely, it's the Jedi they don't want to lose.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Makes sense to me too.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Are there any other Masters who will be participating in the Revelations thread?

[Dasquian Belargic]

I was going to post something up about that... our official council is so small (Daria, Drin, Navaria) that I thought it might make sense for there to be some of the other senior Jedi present too. But that depends on who wants to be involved!

I hope *someone* does - I'd rather not have to NPC people

[Serena Laran]

I'm not a master. :(

[Dasquian Belargic]

Neither is Daria!

[Serena Laran]

I can post as Serena if you like, then :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

if you want to join, I'd say feel free ^_^

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Most definitely :)

I think that, given the size of the council, there would be an inclusion of senior Jedi to help with the decision making :)

[Serena Laran]

What's the plan on the Wheel's movements? Still going with the general idea Jane and Celeste spitballed in Crossing the Rubicon, or did you guys come up with a better idea? There was no mention of quarantine or anything in the RP so I'm just curious what's going on.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

The way I saw it was that once Zem discussed things with the council/senior Jedi, they might try to think of something to do themselves, and if Dash has been brought into the Jane/Celeste loop on what Intel wants done, he might be able to be the one to propose the quarantine?

[Serena Laran]

TBH like I said before, now its a Celeste/Jane/Director Van-Derveld loop, and yes, Dash and Eluna would know the information as well. Who else knows, would be up to the Director's discretion.

Jane is not taking point in the Wheel/Jedi side of things, she is sticking with her original mission of finding a lost agent. Who, incidentally, she found.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I was expecting someone more senior than Dash to take the reigns on enforcing the quarantine. If that needs to be Celeste, it can be.

I was under the impression that the Rebellion would be moving to instigate all of that at the same time as Zem is being brought into the Wheel... meaning that Dash, Charlotte, Zem and everyone else aboard is now theoretically stuck there until they've been screened - or more likely, in the case of Dash, stuck there to stick around and observe what happens!

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Works out well then :)

I just threw out Dash since he was the first to come to mind, but it's totally up to you guys who gets to push the big red quarantine button ;) I like the thought of folks being stuck with the Wheel too.

[Miranda Tarkin]

I can post if you guys want. The thing is... I won't be able to do anything until tomorrow. And Jen, I can also post to Bryna then too.

is that all right?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Of course we want you to post, silly :hug

[Miranda Tarkin]

Ok. Navaria in Revelations, see Jen - a Master for you :p

Grace to her kiddo and did Grace need to be anywhere else because honestly, so much has happened on my 'medical' hiatus >_>

[Serena Laran]

We handwaved Grace being told about the information Vymes brought to Intel by saying it took place behind the scenes. So you can insert her into the goings on as you see fit, she is in the loop. Frankly, she practically IS the loop. The loop is a line. :lol

[Dasquian Belargic]

I can post if you guys want. The thing is... I won't be able to do anything until tomorrow. And Jen, I can also post to Bryna then too.

is that all right?

of course, I just didn't want to pester you into posting and all.. ^_^;

[Rev Solomon]

Hope it's all right that I've inserted Solomon into the proceedings. There is a very specific reason he's calling in from his own ship away from the Wheel - I want him separated from the Wheel when the quarantine happens so he'll be free for another very important thread. I acknowledged in the post that opening this meeting to hyperspace communications isn't ideal, but let's just say this is a super secure ultra secret Jedi signal.

Incidentally, I'm also reactivating Akasha. She should be in for fun times if the Alliance starts hunting for dark siders on the Wheel.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Any other of the masters going to chime in some more?

[Inyos Aamoran]

I think Inyos probably keeps to himself too much to have been at this meeting (unless anyone disagrees?). However, given how both Inyos and Vansen Tyree have been spending a lot of time with s'Il of late (and given Tyree's job) I'd appreciate if someone could come and let them know at some point.

Does anyone from Intel need / want to brief Tyree in the situation / the quarantine? Is that an Intel-only type briefing, or would it be worth having Zem / some of the Jedi there as well?

[Miranda Tarkin]

You mean in the current thread that Navaria is in? I was waiting on posting order O_o

[Adia Issoris]

Posting order is overrated.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I was waiting on Zem? Unless Daria was supposed to be fielding that last question? :uhoh

[Adia Issoris]

CHARLEY! Get in here you LAZY GIT.

[Rev Solomon]

This thread is basically an interview with multiple people asking one person questions, so it makes sense that Zem will have just about every other post. Otherwise it's the rest of us posting to say "Solomon stared at Zem while waiting for him to answer the question."

So in other words,


CHARLEY! Get in here you LAZY GIT.

[Eluna Thals]

on my way, lads

[Yshe Y'sherren]

Kale here. I've created this character as a one-off to head up the investigation of the Wheel on behalf of the Alliance. She'll brand it as a joint operation to help the Jedi police their own for any taint of the Dark Side, but her primary purpose is to protect Alliance interests. She's there to ensure they're not farming any more Palpatines or Vaders, but she also plans to determine whether continuing to shelter the Jedi is worth the Alliance's while.

I think her investigation should coincide with the quarantine, if we're still doing that. I had an idea of her arriving in a small, inconspicuous transport marked for Rebel intel (SW equivalent of a black helicopter) with minimal staff and fanfare. Beyond that, I'm very much open to suggestions. On whose authority is she coming to the Wheel? Are there any other angles I might work on behalf of the Alliance?

And should I go ahead and post on the Rebellion forum to say hi?

[Daria Nytherciria]

Bump dis thread.

I want to hunt some traitors!

[Charlotte Tur'enne]

And I want to... be socially awkward around Force Users?

...that can't be right. :uhoh

[Park Kraken]

I'm looking to get back into SW RPing with the anticipation build up of TOR, but I'm not sure either of my characters would have a good reason for getting involved in this thread. Anne as an Alliance character was maintaining control of Tempest Base and continuing to launch commerce raiding activities against the Empire while supplying capital warships to the Alliance, while Park is going around smashing Alliance outposts and trade points. While Park would love to take advantage of this situation to try and smash the 4th fleet and slag the wheel/base delta zero any worlds in the system, 1) would he even be able to find out about what's going on, and 2) as I understand it OOC there isn't a lot of planning revolving around a big Imperial entanglement, even though it might serve as a rallying point for reuniting the divided Alliance forces.