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Xavier Synik

Dec 14th, 2010, 11:15:42 AM

and because the thread has been revived just at the right time...

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Jedi Master Carr

Dec 14th, 2010, 10:51:08 PM

Dasquian Belargic

Jan 1st, 2011, 04:42:44 PM

Having just finished ME2, I have just watched this trailer - and have to say.... o_O wha. Earth, real Earth?! I am really not sure what to think..

Dasquian Belargic

May 5th, 2011, 11:14:34 AM

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/games/mass-effect-3-release-pushed-back-to-q1-2012/

Canadian game developer BioWare announced at the end of last year that the trilogy-capping Mass Effect 3 would launch during the 2011 holiday season. This is no longer case. Casey Hudson, the series’ executive producer, took to Facebook yesterday to let fans know that release has been pushed back a bit, into 2012.

“Mass Effect 3 will be released in the first three months of 2012,” he wrote. “The development team is laser focused on making sure Mass Effect 3 is the biggest, boldest and best game in the series, ensuring that it exceeds everyone’s expectations.”

This is a smart move. For all of the steps forward it takes, most fans agree that Dragon Age 2 suffered in some fundamental ways because of what they perceive to be a rushed development timeline. There’s a similar danger with ME3, as it was set to follow DA2‘s lead in releasing a sequel just one year after its predecessor. Or there was a similar danger, until that release got pushed back. Don’t be surprised if another delay rears up before Q1 2012.

Dasquian Belargic

May 14th, 2011, 10:47:19 AM

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/14/bioware-mass-effect-3-has-no-new-love-interests/

Last month Tom [from PC GAMER] spoke to the executive producer on the Mass Effect series, Casey Hudson, about your romance options in Mass Effect 3. While ME3 will introduce new characters, including new squadmates, Casey says all your romance options will be with familiar faces. And since all the romance options from Mass Effect 1 are back as full time squadmates, many players are going to have some awkward moments when their old flame meets the new squeeze.

:uhoh

Just kidding I was loyal to Liara all the way through. FemShep is a true gentleman :cool

Dasquian Belargic

May 17th, 2011, 11:53:35 AM

BioWare on how your choices determine Mass Effect 3′s ending:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/17/bioware-on-how-your-choices-determine-mass-effect-3s-ending/

Dasquian Belargic

Jun 6th, 2011, 12:23:16 PM

E3 segment: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714803

Dasquian Belargic

Jun 16th, 2011, 12:59:39 PM

http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/220454/femshep-mass-effect-3-salutes-you/

Everyone with any sense knows that despite the images on the box, website and indeed all marketing material, the correct way to play Mass Effect is with a female Commander Shepard. BioWare, it seems, has been listening to the very dedicated FemShep fans out there (she has her own website and everything) -- Director of Marketing David Silverman noted on Twitter this Tuesday that "there will be a #FemShep trailer. We actually had a meeting on her yesterday. We are working on the look now."

As well as having her own trailer, FemShep will also appear on the Collector's Edition box of Mass Effect 3 -- Silverman confirmed this after further fan pestering.

Morgan Evanar

Jun 16th, 2011, 01:14:16 PM

Yay! It's about time.

Captain Untouchable

Jun 16th, 2011, 02:41:14 PM

I guess with all the cult references the developers have managed to sneak into the games, it's only fitting that they sort of reference one of their own cult/cliché/things. :3

Crusader

Jun 17th, 2011, 02:27:25 AM

So it is decided: ME3 Collector's Edition it is. BTW is it kind of crazy that every time I borrow my Xbox or move it over a long distance I make a security copy of my Shepards since I consider my savegames that accumulate like 150-200h of my life more valuable than the Xbox itself.

Dasquian Belargic

Jun 20th, 2011, 12:56:58 PM

An impressive FemShep fan-art / high-res wallpaper: http://garrettartlair.blogspot.com/2011/05/mass-effect-3-femshep-e3-wallpaper.html

Dai

Jul 1st, 2011, 12:00:46 PM

When I first encountered the Reapers in ME1 I knew they'd come to Earth. The fascination with human-kind in ME2 only confirmed the suspicion. Since I knew (from the original incarnation) that there would be a trilogy, and subsequently (if all goes according to plan) a movie, this seems like quite the finish. As per usual, BioWare has done a great job with this series.

Dasquian Belargic

Jul 17th, 2011, 05:50:45 PM

Because you can never have too much FemShep

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Dasquian Belargic

Jul 27th, 2011, 08:17:06 AM

Collectors edition pre-ordered! Contents are:

Premium metal case featuring commemorative artwork of Commander Shepard.
70-page hardbound art book featuring hundreds of unique and gorgeous illustrations from the BioWare development team.
Limited edition Mass Effect comic by Dark Horse Comics, complete with unique cover artwork.
Join the ranks of the N7 with the premium fabric N7 patch.
Exclusive 4x6 lithographic print featuring a one-of-a-kind piece of artwork.
A full collection of in-game content that can’t be found anywhere else!
N7 Arsenal Pack – Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.
Robotic Dog – A faithful sidekick to keep you company on board the Normandy.
Squadmate Alternate Outfit Pack – New appearances for your favorite squad members.
N7 Hoodie – For Commander Shepard’s casual days on board the Normandy.
Relive all the greatest moments of Mass Effect 3 with the digital soundtrack.
Xbox LIVE Normandy prop for your Avatar. (Available on Xbox 360 version only.)
Display your initiation in the N7 ranks with a collection of forum and social badges, avatars, and perks.

also: check out this inflatable omni-blade! They were giving them out for free by the handful at Comic Con :D I'll bring some along to Miami later this year, since I know Peter will want one :mneh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/tehwofl/omniblade.jpg

Sanis Prent

Jul 27th, 2011, 03:44:29 PM

I want one!!! How much for the collectors edition??

Dasquian Belargic

Jul 27th, 2011, 03:46:59 PM

$79.99 for the collectors edition on Amazon.com

Inflatable omni-tool not included :p but Sarah and I must have about 10 spare between us so there are plenty to go around if you want one :lol

Karl Valten

Jul 27th, 2011, 04:03:47 PM

Aw, crap. I'm going to completely miss out on Miami. Stupid grad school. :\

Sanis Prent

Jul 27th, 2011, 05:37:58 PM

Karl that was random :lol

And yes I'm rolling an engineer FemShep so I need me an omni tool

Karl Valten

Jul 27th, 2011, 06:03:01 PM

Karl that was random :lol

There's going to be inflatable omni-swords in Miami.

Also more related to this thread:

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Dasquian Belargic

Jul 28th, 2011, 05:46:54 AM

I hadn't seen that video before :o awesome!

Tom Harriman

Jul 28th, 2011, 05:53:46 AM

Those omni-blades are epic!

I love all of the advertising they've done for this. I saw a walkthrough of some of the early bits (can't remember if it was in this thread or not, and I'm too lazy to check) which showed some of the gameplay-to-cinematic transitions too: they're incredibly fluid, and the graphics look stunning.

What does $79.99 translate to in the Queen's currency, Jen? :ohno

Dasquian Belargic

Jul 28th, 2011, 05:57:53 AM

Sadly, it doesn't translate well. It was £69.99 preorder from GAME. They don't take the money until its about to be shipped so if there's a price drop, it costs less. If there's a rise, it just stays at £69.99. I have a GAME loyalty card so I got a couple of quid off.

http://www.game.co.uk/PC-Games-and-Downloads/RolePlaying/~r355276/Mass-Effect-3-Collectors-Edition/

Tom Harriman

Jul 28th, 2011, 06:41:26 AM

Youch... may be waiting a couple of months before my pre-orders, I think. Not sure I can justify buying them and a new computer in the same month. :uhoh

Dasquian Belargic

Jul 28th, 2011, 08:31:41 AM

It's not out until 2012, anyway :) Like I said, you can preorder now from GAME and they won't actually take the money until they are going to ship the game out to you... it's just like putting your name on a waiting list.

Tom Harriman

Jul 28th, 2011, 10:47:14 AM

For some reason, my brain didn't understand that sentence as meaning that, despite that being exactly what you've written. I blame my meds. >_<

Is it the same story with your SW-TOR pre-order on Amazon, or do they make you pay immediately?

Dasquian Belargic

Jul 28th, 2011, 10:56:01 AM

Same deal! "Our Pre-order Price Guarantee covers one or more item(s) in this order. If the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you will pay the lowest price. Terms and conditions apply."

No money taken until game shipped.

Tom Harriman

Jul 28th, 2011, 11:32:10 AM

Achievement get: Pre-order. Yay! :eee

Dasquian Belargic

Jul 31st, 2011, 03:32:31 PM

Just incase anyone didn't see yet, one of the ME3 new squadmates has been revealed: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/James_Vega

James Vega is a human Systems Alliance soldier and squad member in Mass Effect 3. While Vega is an experienced soldier, he is unfamiliar with the seedy underbelly and political workings of the galaxy.

:zzz

There's also a more exciting temporary squadmate that you get during the opening mission http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/David_Anderson

Karl Valten

Jul 31st, 2011, 03:43:56 PM

Just incase anyone didn't see yet, one of the ME3 new squadmates has been revealed: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/James_Vega

James Vega is a human Systems Alliance soldier and squad member in Mass Effect 3. While Vega is an experienced soldier, he is unfamiliar with the seedy underbelly and political workings of the galaxy.

:zzz

Agreed. But I guess the newbie muscle head is in most games.

There's also a more exciting temporary squadmate that you get during the opening mission http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/David_Anderson

Oh FUCK yes!

Sanis Prent

Jul 31st, 2011, 09:25:36 PM

I keep waiting for Captain Anderson to induct me in to the 3rd Street Saints after a beat-down

Nikolai Odell

Jul 31st, 2011, 10:38:25 PM

The boring squadmate is basically there in case you killed Ashley. You're down to Tali, Liara, Garrus, and whoever survived Virmire in this game. With no Wrex, you're pretty much shafted if you're anything other than a soldier yourself.

I saw the temporary squadmate in a playthrough / interview on youtube somewhere (I'll try and dig it out). It looks awesomesauce.

I've been watching The Cape recently. Part of me hopes there's a character in ME3 called Vince Faraday, because that name sounds epic when Anderson says it... :uhoh

Captain Untouchable

Aug 4th, 2011, 06:18:19 AM

<img width="80%" src="http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-QWvWPbx/0/L/i-QWvWPbx-L.jpg">

Damn right we punched you twice. :mad

Crusader

Aug 4th, 2011, 07:58:59 AM

lol and I hope that she will be back for more!

Captain Untouchable

Aug 4th, 2011, 08:52:17 AM

Ha. Her middle name is Bint. Awesome. :lol

Taataani Meorrrei

Aug 4th, 2011, 06:47:54 PM

I was all inscrutable spook around that reporter bitch.

"Commander Shepard, can you tell me about what you had for breakfast today?"

"I can neither confirm nor deny that breakfast was served."

:|

Suck on my poker face.

Nikolai Odell

Aug 5th, 2011, 12:27:16 PM

What's that, Jace? What did you just buy?

THIS (http://biowarestore.com/core/media/media.nl/id.288/c.862287/.f?h=252a8a0282d1b3273682)

Aww, yeah. :smokin

Ento

Aug 6th, 2011, 12:52:58 AM

here's a question for y'all. I have a code in my pre-owned Mass Effect 2 game for some special armor, but that code expired next year. Now it says that I can access the cerberus network on the box, but if I buy the 1200 microsoft points DLC will I actually be able to use it? I don't want to throw my money away, but I do want cool DLC stuff

Crusader

Aug 6th, 2011, 01:58:11 AM

Try to redeem the code. If it fails you will have to pay the 1200MS Points for the cerberus DLC. Welcome to Project 10 Dollars.

This was actually meant to destroy Gamestop's business model of selling used games just $10 cheaper instead of selling new copies where the developers would profit from.

Crusader

Aug 10th, 2011, 03:05:00 AM

ME3's rumored multiplayer component might be playable at GC in Cologne next Friday. If this is the case I will tell you if this is something we should be excited about.

Inyos Aamoran

Aug 10th, 2011, 11:58:05 AM

ME3's rumored multiplayer component might be playable at GC in Cologne next Friday. If this is the case I will tell you if this is something we should be excited about.

Too late. :ohno

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 10th, 2011, 12:02:23 PM

I don't want any multiplayer content >_<

Sanis Prent

Aug 10th, 2011, 12:14:19 PM

I don't get how multiplayer will work if we're all Shepherd

Inyos Aamoran

Aug 10th, 2011, 01:06:23 PM

I don't get how multiplayer will work if we're all Shepherd

*shrug* Halo seems to cope with a similar situation. Granted, it isn't such a high-brow story game, but there are enough examples of RPGs with cooperative and multiplayer modes that there's the ground work for Bioware to cook up something good.

After all the awesome and inovative ideas they've come up with for SW TOR, hasn't Bioware earned a little faith? :ohno

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 10th, 2011, 01:50:16 PM

When the game is focused so heavily on story - and not just story, but the players unique story, colored by all of their choices in the preceding games - I just don't know how multiplayer will work or have any appeal for me. It just feels as if it would be something unnecessarily tacked on, like it was with BioShock 2.

Tear

Aug 10th, 2011, 02:03:47 PM

Couldn't players inhabit the various NPC character that form up Shepards team? Taking turns to play the role of Shepard.

So instead of having that big frog looking guy, you could replace him with your buddy Jim bob from down the street? Sounds sort of fun to recruit from your real life friends for your missions instead of your NPC crew. Again I haven't played any of the mass effect games so this is purely ignorant conjecture.

Whatever it is I'm sure it will be totally optional so I wouldn't fret.

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 10th, 2011, 03:30:51 PM

On the upside... http://fashionablygeek.com/costumes/amazing-samara-cosplay-from-gencon/ :D

Eluna Thals

Aug 10th, 2011, 09:47:12 PM

I'd much rather they just did a stand-alone Mass Effect co-op MMORPG thing where you make your own random dude after the reaper saga. Some schmoe earns credits to buy a ship or cheat modes and buys one for like 3000 microsoft points or something and then you go mine rocks or kick puppies in a post-reaper era galaxy

Inyos Aamoran

Aug 11th, 2011, 02:45:08 AM

That's not necessarily off the cards, particularly if SW-TOR goes well. But there's a big difference between co-op / FPS multiplayer and an MMO.

You may think it's unnecessary and tacked on... personally, I think that at least some people are going to have fun with it; and it's never a waste of time if someone ends up having fun. It's not like Bioware is going to come around and break your fingers if you decide you don't like it and choose not to play. *shrug*

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 11th, 2011, 12:45:52 PM

I'm sure it will be totally optional and hey maybe it will be fun. I just wish Bioware would focus their attention on one gameplay type at a time. What makes a good singleplayer game is so different from what makes a good multiplayer game, and although Bioware have done a decent job with multiplayer in the past (Neverwinter Nights) a lot of that was down to the flexibility the player had to become a dungeon master, create their own campaigns etc. With Mass Effect being a cross-platform title, I don't think that level of customisation would really be achievable, but who knows.. I might be eating my omni-tool this time next year.

Captain Untouchable

Aug 11th, 2011, 02:36:26 PM

The team developing multiplayer is entirely separate from the main ME3 development team. They're treating it as two separate projects, to avoid having to deprive resources from the main development team for the side game, and to avoid compromising the main game's gameplay to "multiplayerize" it. (Yes, I know that's not a word :uhoh)

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 16th, 2011, 04:13:17 PM

Sanis Prent

Aug 16th, 2011, 05:50:13 PM

Cerberus mechs :uhoh

That really gets me thinking, do you fight them no matter what decision you make regarding the Collector base?

I think the Illusive Man gets indoctrinated

Kyran O'Hurn

Aug 16th, 2011, 08:36:28 PM

Cerberus mechs :uhoh

That really gets me thinking, do you fight them no matter what decision you make regarding the Collector base?

I think the Illusive Man gets indoctrinated

That's an interesting thought. Hadn't considered about what you do with the collector base being an factor in the story of ME3. Though I have to think not, as it would almost be like building two games if they did.

Unless it's set up so that the situation is approximately the same, and on one hand you fight Cerberus if you blew up the base, and on the other you fight against the Alliance if you didn't, but the tech and levels are the same basically the same and so it's almost like they just change the skins on the enemies.

Kyran O'Hurn

Aug 16th, 2011, 08:58:10 PM

So followed some youtube suggestions off of that video and came across this one. Linking it because don't want anyone accidentally playing it if they don't want spoilers, cause its packed full of information on ME3 that has been released/said by developers/etc.

http://youtu.be/Q6R6xx21L6A

Comment below is related to two previous spoiler tagged posts...

Confirmed that the Illusive Man was indoctrinated. Cerberus is the enemy and working with the Reapers now.

Inyos Aamoran

Aug 17th, 2011, 08:58:49 AM

Re: Ky's link - is it me, or does it look like Liara has been raiding Samara's wardrobe? o_O

Edit:

- You will lure a Reaper into fighting a Thresher Maw on Tuchanka :ohno

- You will get to punch the reporter again. :eee

Edit 2:

Just stumbled across this awesome fan trailer, sowing together scenes from ME2 and from the clips / playthroughs that has been released so far.

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Dasquian Belargic

Aug 17th, 2011, 10:46:22 AM

Inyos Aamoran

Aug 17th, 2011, 11:35:56 AM

^ That is an awesome fan trailer! Pity it's all BroShep.

Re: Ky's link - is it me, or does it look like Liara has been raiding Samara's wardrobe?
Nevermind that, they gave Ashley a completely different face! :lol

Hopefully they gave her a completely different personality, too... >_<

This guy (http://www.youtube.com/user/MikkroBitti) has got a bunch of awesome fan videos up too... way too many to link.

Loklorien s'Ilancy

Aug 20th, 2011, 11:10:33 AM

I found this the other day, and Charley said to post it.

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Dasquian Belargic

Aug 20th, 2011, 11:54:40 AM

ahahaha

well, Miranda certainly does have the flexibility

Taataani Meorrrei

Aug 20th, 2011, 12:06:04 PM

And Garrus has the reach :lol

Man that whole line he lays on Sheperd, I was like shiiiiit. Didn't think ol boy had the moxie.

Bryna Belargic

Aug 20th, 2011, 01:01:08 PM

Has he offered to, ahem, release some tension with you yet?

Sanis Prent

Aug 20th, 2011, 01:26:59 PM

Yes and I played along, although I'm still teasing Kelly and playing semi-serious with Jacob

Inyos Aamoran

Aug 23rd, 2011, 06:57:13 AM

I'm slightly worried at myself. After browsing through screenshots, I'm more excited about the returning weapons than I am about the returning characters... ^_^;

Crusader

Aug 23rd, 2011, 08:57:43 AM

I waited 4 hours in line at gamescom and still no offical word about multiplayer but now I have played 10min of a mission and I got myself some Omniblades, 2 ME3 Posters and a little Normandy 2 for my Xbox360 Avatar.

The mission was set on the Salarian homeworld. Mordin was back and you had to defend him while he was taking care of a "fertile" Krogan female. He and the female where in a pot which you had to guide to the top of a structure by using switches. On top Wrex was supposed to pick you up with a ship. "Wrex would never let a fertile Krogan slip through his hands would he?". You had to battle your way up together with Liara and Garrus against indoctrinated Cerberus soldiers with jetpacks and shields.

Most of the time I let the soldiers get pinned by my teammates and then finished them in melee. The new melee animations are good but far away from games like Gears of War or Assassins Creed.

I wonder if this mission is optional depending on the choices you made in ME2 concerning Mordin's student. The setting would fit for my choices in ME2 my Trisha Shepard convinced Mordin to keep the research of his student and saved the Reaper base from destruction for Cerberus research.
Gameplay was good and so was the voice over the battle against the super mech at the end was kind of awkward because once I got hit by a rocket I knew that this presentation had godmode on.

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 23rd, 2011, 10:35:06 AM

What are the posters you got??

Dasquian Belargic

Aug 25th, 2011, 01:16:32 PM

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112571-Shepard-Can-Lose-in-Mass-Effect-3

Ancient machines threaten the Earth, and only you are in a position to stop them: What do you do? Well, one of the things you can do is make a complete mess of it and let angry mechanical star gods destroy the whole planet. BioWare has let slip that one of the possible endings in Mass Effect 3 is that Commander Shepard can fail to stop the Reapers, thus dooming the Earth, and the entire galaxy.

Karl Valten

Sep 1st, 2011, 09:36:55 PM

The official femshep is out. She is a red head :D.

http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Mass-Effect-3-Redhead-Female-Shepard-Wins.jpg

http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/08/Mass-Effect-3-Female-Shepard-627x246.jpg

Eluna Thals

Sep 1st, 2011, 09:45:56 PM

I just changed into this nic so I could gloat that I was totally fucking right about my FemShep's appearance!

Crusader

Sep 2nd, 2011, 02:06:46 AM

Put a scar over her left eye and you have got my femshep.

Dasquian Belargic

Sep 2nd, 2011, 05:01:23 AM

Eh... I don't like it at all. She should look more like the default appearance FemShep from the games, i.e. older and not so pretty.

Crusader

Sep 2nd, 2011, 07:24:49 AM

But isn't MaleShep kind of sexy and young too.

Dasquian Belargic

Sep 2nd, 2011, 07:29:56 AM

I don't think he looks as young as the FemShep they've chosen. Yes he is handsome, and I think the default FemShep (in my post above) is sexy - but not pretty. The 'new FemShep' they've chosen barely has a hair out of place and has no scars. She doesn't look like she's seen any battles to me.

Crusader

Sep 2nd, 2011, 07:40:19 AM

Yeah you are right her skin is a little bit too tight but according to ME lore women don't look as old as they do in our time. Kaylee Sanders is supposed to look still young in the second ME book.

My shepard definetly has a MILF rating and not a jailbait look.

John Glayde

Sep 2nd, 2011, 08:35:51 AM

I think it's the freckles. They make her look too much younger.

Regardless, I will continue to do my utmost to make my FemShep look like Amanda Tapping each time. :ohno

Crusader

Sep 2nd, 2011, 09:02:40 AM

In the end I am just glad that FemShep is getting some love from Bioware.

Dasquian Belargic

Sep 2nd, 2011, 10:41:06 AM

That's true. FemShep and Jennifer Hale can always do with more love.

John Glayde

Sep 2nd, 2011, 10:54:01 AM

If they want love, they know where to find me... :mischief

Dasquian Belargic

Sep 17th, 2011, 05:31:21 AM

Tribute to Garrus

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Alexander Tur'enne

Sep 17th, 2011, 10:07:27 AM

That is epic. :ohno

Dasquian Belargic

Oct 10th, 2011, 12:22:34 PM

Well, it's the announcement that we - and by we, I mean mostly just me - feared: Mass Effect 3 will have multiplayer. Gamesradar has a shot of the Official Xbox Magazine cover story (with an exceptionally weird looking BroShep) about this: http://www.gamesradar.com/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-confirmed-oxm-cover-story/

Sanis Prent

Oct 10th, 2011, 12:38:46 PM

boooooooooooo

Dasquian Belargic

Oct 10th, 2011, 12:43:42 PM

No actual news about what the multiplayer will entail yet, but I guess we'll find that out soon.

Captain Untouchable

Oct 10th, 2011, 02:01:00 PM

I really don't get why everyone is hating on the idea of Mass Effect multiplayer.

It was built by a totally different team (so didn't take resources away from the main game), it's outside the main story so doesn't detract from that, and the entire game concept is squad based anyway: what's the big deal about having a human controlling things rather than an AI? :huh

Dasquian Belargic

Oct 10th, 2011, 02:08:10 PM

I like my squad-mates the way they are: obedient to my commands and with scripted dialogue :mneh

Sanis Prent

Oct 10th, 2011, 04:08:31 PM

Because if I'd bet a penny I'd bet a pound, this is the reason why it was delayed. Fuck that, just bundle a standalone game in the ME universe that lets you get your rocks off on multiplay.

Hell, I'd feel the same about Fallout, too.

Dasquian Belargic

Oct 12th, 2011, 10:59:06 AM

More info from Bioware on the multiplayer/co-op feature

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There's a big FAQ on http://masseffect.bioware.com/me3/game/multiplayer

Notably:

Which characters can I play in co-op multiplayer? Can I play as Commander Shepard?

Commander Shepard's part in the war will take place in the single-player campaign, as will that of other beloved characters in the franchise such as Garrus, Ashley, and Liara...these characters do not appear in the multiplayer missions.

In multiplayer, players will create custom characters to fight on different and unique fronts in the war. This will include the ability to play as favorites like Turians, Krogans, Asari and more... each with their own unique set of abilities.

What if I don't like multiplayer - will my experience be negatively impacted?

Mass Effect 3 is a complete, standalone game that will deliver a satisfying story experience, even if you choose not to try multiplayer.

The Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system and all of the individual components are meant to complement that amazing game and can be enjoyed on their own or as part of the Galaxy at War experience.

So effectively you don't ever need to play multiplayer and you can still experience the game as it should be experienced :)

Captain Untouchable

Oct 12th, 2011, 01:35:26 PM

So effectively you don't ever need to play multiplayer and you can still experience the game as it should be experienced :)

But playing multiplayer has an impact on your victory conditions. That's a pretty damn clever idea: you get to multiplay as the characters fighting in the background while Sheppard is running around performing awesomeness.

Interesting that the co-op mode is four player, though. I guess that's a fairly typical number of players to have for a multiplayer game; but I'm a little surprised they didn't stick with the standard three-man team which is a bit of a Bioware signature.

Dasquian Belargic

Oct 12th, 2011, 01:41:30 PM

I'm just glad that "you can reach the highest levels of success in the single player experience alone" because the battles that I am interested in seeing and playing in this game are the ones that involve Shepard and her squad. Their stories are the ones I'm invested in and have kept me hooked all along :)

Captain Untouchable

Oct 12th, 2011, 01:49:20 PM

I don't think there was ever any reason to doubt that? The multiplayer feature was always going to be an "extra". That's why they had a completely separate design team working on it.

I'm just glad that it's not too separate. Throwing in multiplayer could have been a box-ticking gimick, but Bioware has found a way to link it back to the main game.

Dasquian Belargic

Dec 11th, 2011, 01:39:57 PM

Needs more FemShep, but here's some new footage from the VGAs!

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Captain Untouchable

Dec 11th, 2011, 04:32:50 PM

Wrex! :eee

Also, was that a Reaper getting ownaged by a Thresher Maw? :ohno

Karl Valten

Dec 11th, 2011, 08:36:34 PM

Also, was that a Reaper getting ownaged by a Thresher Maw? :ohno

Yes.....yes it was..... :( :ohno

Dasquian Belargic

Jan 9th, 2012, 11:09:47 AM

Apparently just 57 days to go until this is out :ohno

Crusader

Jan 31st, 2012, 06:42:01 PM

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Dasquian Belargic

Feb 4th, 2012, 04:27:21 AM

Jennifer Hale and Ali Hillis... :swoon:

Captain Untouchable

Feb 4th, 2012, 05:09:38 AM

I never realised quite how short Seth Green is.

Not only is he in a room with Tricia Helfer, he's exactly at boob height. :shakefist

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 4th, 2012, 06:04:42 AM

Yeah, he was always the shortest cast member on Buffy. Doesn't seem to have held him back though, look at his wife!

Glen Fiddich

Feb 13th, 2012, 06:43:54 PM

Just caught some of the demo footage on Youtube. I take back what I said about the new FemShep - she may not look like what I'm used to, but she really fits the voice. I may be using her after all! You'll be pleased to know that Original FemShep is still the default setting for custom appearence, though.

Things on Earth look pretty damn snazzy from what I've seen. The uniforms are pretty cool, and they seem to have tossed in some Battlestar Galactica style dynamic camera movements: the intro seems to have even more of a cinematic field than the prequels did.

I've only seen him for a few seconds so far, but I'm already warming to the new guy. He seems like a dependable sort of chap: like Ashley, but without the grating voice and personality.

My only concern at this point is the scale of FemShep. The gun she's given during the intro is just a pistol, and yet it's bloody massive. I've been playing FemShep as a Soldier and BroShep as an Infiltrator thus far: but if a pistol seems too big for FemShep, I'm a little worried about how the larger weapons are going to end up looking.

Cirrsseeto Quez

Feb 13th, 2012, 06:50:45 PM

Crusader

Feb 14th, 2012, 03:19:59 AM

Honestly at least he is not Emo-Kaiden or the token black guy from Mass Effect 2 that no one really cared about.

Plus Vega is voiced by Freddie Prince Jr. and he is married to Sarah Michelle Gelllar. So someone that gets to screw Buffy on a regular basis must be badass as a companion.

Captain Untouchable

Feb 14th, 2012, 04:47:07 AM

I guess I don't get all the hate over James Vega. I don't think he'll be my FemShep's love interest, but he doesn't look shit to me or out of place. People are upset because he's a buff jarhead? I mean I guess if this was a game about posting your feelings in a comp book that might be valid but that's probably exactly the sort of fellow I'd want throwing hot lead onto a planetary LZ.

I think the "hate" for Vega pretty much boils down to the fact that he isn't someone else. Granted, all we knew about the guy for a long time was that he was going to "represent the perspective of a new player to the franchise", which makes him sound like a complete noob who is going to ask annoying questions... but I think people are more bothered that we've got him "instead of" Wrex, or "instead of" Mordin Solus, and so forth.

He seems to me like an ideal replacement for Ashley, so I'm all for having him around. I just need to work out who I'm going to team him up with.

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 14th, 2012, 11:50:11 AM

eh, I'm not fussed about him either way to be honest. I'm just not all that interested in his story, since I haven't had one or two games already to build up back-story/chemist with him.

PS WHERE IS THE DEMO

Captain Untouchable

Feb 14th, 2012, 12:30:59 PM

I've been waiting all day. It looks like we've got to wait for the bloody Yanks to wake up. :mad

Edit: Approximately 10am PST, and it will be available on Origin. (So that's, like, right now. :ohno)

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 14th, 2012, 12:51:27 PM

Yep, I spotted it not long after 6pm! Just had my tea and about to boot it up :D

Captain Untouchable

Feb 14th, 2012, 04:54:55 PM

I owned that demo so hard. :smokin

I really like the way the cinematics blend into the gameplay: not just the cutscenes, but the random "ohhhh shiiiit" stuff as well. I was expecting it to be annoying, but the fact that the HUD trips off and on again means that you know the instant that you can carry on; none of this trying to move but not being able to that happens in other games.

I still don't like shotguns, but the second half of the demo gave me a Mattock and a full auto SMG. In ME2 you had to sacrifice full auto if you wanted a big beefy large calibre gun like the Mattock. I wonder what that means for the other classes (the ones who had an SMG instead of an assault rifle), and where other weapons like sniper rifles and grenade launchers will fit into Shepard's arsenal.

Also, how awesome do all of the Systems Alliance uniforms look? Whenever I manage to get myself out to the states for a con, I am totally using it as an excuse to buy me some of Anderson's wardrobe. :3

Edit:

Jenny brought up on twitter the thing about turning off dialogue choices, and whether or not that would mean there is a canon story.

Technically, isn't there one already? It's been a while, but if you didn't have that comic book intro DLC (the one that let you re-make every decision from ME), didn't Mass Effect 2 have some default settings for the ending of the first game (what happened to the Council, etc) and what-not? I'd assume that if you don't import a save into ME3, you'd get some defaults for what happened in ME2 as well... so I guess that's sort of the canon storyline? A basic one, at least.

Either way, it'll be interesting to see what convo options end up getting picked automatically, and what that means for how Shepard ends up getting characterized. I'm tempted to play through in that mode at some point, just to see how close the developers' version of Shepard is to my version.

Karl Valten

Feb 15th, 2012, 12:17:08 AM

Have to go the opposite way as you. I love the shotgun. I run femshep as a Vanguard so almost all of my fighting is done at a few arms length.

Nova is a great new ability to have.....and screw the omni blade, I bunch people with biotics and send them flying (seriously, the Vangaurd doesn't get the omni blade......you just beat the shit out of people).

Biotic Charge is always fun and can jump you around the field quickly. Having the shotgun as a support weapon is great as I fuck shit up with my biotics at close range.

The riot-shield guys are annoying for me, though.

Captain Untouchable

Feb 15th, 2012, 05:50:25 AM

Crusader

Feb 15th, 2012, 06:58:15 AM

Yup Vanguard plus shotgun is the way to go. Target enemy, charge, shot, shot, punch to finish and repeat.

I am a blue mist travelling between groups of enemies while my team is destroying shields and barriers for me so that I only have to fight soft targets.

Karl Valten

Feb 15th, 2012, 10:03:43 AM

I think the reason I hate the shotgun so much is because I had so much fun in ME1. I stuck in the high explosive (I think?) rounds, which overheated it after one shot, but absolutely obliterated the target. In ME2 though, I got maybe two-dozen shots out of the thing, and it didn't kill things noticeably faster than my pistol did at close range. I hope I can swap it out for something - right now it's just a thing glued to FemShep's ass that makes it harder to sit down. :\

The Claymore or Plasma Shotgun is what you're looking for in ME2. :cool:

The trick I found with the riot shield guys is to go for the leg with your pistol. A well-aimed shot there is enough to make them stumble and expose more of themselves. Alternatively, I just shot the shield with the Mattock which made them recoil backwards, and then shot them in the groin a couple of times. :lol

I just kind Biotic Charged then, made them stumble, and ran past them so the teammates could light them up from behind......that or shotgun to the foot.

I like the way the powers / abilities work. Having two options at Tier 4+ is cool - it feels a lot more like I can have my own "build" for Shepard, and the colourful bar things make it a lot easier to work out the benefits I'm actually getting.

I had tier 3 at best....but I also had like 7 powers to choose from.

Yup Vanguard plus shotgun is the way to go. Target enemy, charge, shot, shot, punch to finish and repeat.

I am a blue mist travelling between groups of enemies while my team is destroying shields and barriers for me so that I only have to fight soft targets.

A yup! Did you get caught off-guard by the whole heavy melee attack? At first I went "....aw.....no omnio blade....:( " and then I was like ".....did I just force-punch a guy into a steel wall?...:hat "

Glen Fiddich

Feb 15th, 2012, 10:25:53 AM

I like the way the powers / abilities work. Having two options at Tier 4+ is cool - it feels a lot more like I can have my own "build" for Shepard, and the colourful bar things make it a lot easier to work out the benefits I'm actually getting.
I had tier 3 at best....but I also had like 7 powers to choose from.

So did I... but I wanted to see what abilities were like at the top, so I just maxed out Incendiary Ammo, and had pretty much nothing from anything else. :lol

I guess you guys get the same force push thing that Wrex used at the start of the second bit for your heavy melee?

Karl Valten

Feb 15th, 2012, 11:50:31 AM

I think Wrex used throw or shockwave as the biotic heavy melee only works on one opponent at a time.

Apparently each class has a unique heavy melee attack.

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 15th, 2012, 12:06:11 PM

Technically, isn't there one already? It's been a while, but if you didn't have that comic book intro DLC (the one that let you re-make every decision from ME), didn't Mass Effect 2 have some default settings for the ending of the first game (what happened to the Council, etc) and what-not?

If I remember right.. you have a conversation at the start of the game with Jacob who asks you if you can remember what happened before you were revived, which basically will determine who lived/died/etc. Similar to what you did at the beginning of the ME3 demo, but it was actually played out as dialogue.

I always thought that stuff like whether or not you let the Rachni live, if you gave the Collectors base to Cerberus or if you got Talizorah exiled, could have huge impacts on the way that the final third of the story plays out, so it would be really interesting to see how the game plays if you make literally no input to the story and just let it select choices for you! Part of me hopes that it would make random choices, since I have always been of the belief that there is no true canon story for Shepard - aside from obvious things that you can't alter, like them being a Spectre or being rebuilt by Cerberus at the beginning of ME2.

Miranda Tarkin

Feb 15th, 2012, 12:12:13 PM

Looks like Melanie and I will pre-order this after all and try it. Never played the other two but this looks brilliant. Just trying to figure out if we should pre-order from best buy or game stop XD

Glen Fiddich

Feb 15th, 2012, 12:21:53 PM

If I remember right.. you have a conversation at the start of the game with Jacob who asks you if you can remember what happened before you were revived, which basically will determine who lived/died/etc. Similar to what you did at the beginning of the ME3 demo, but it was actually played out as dialogue.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that!

I heard that the fate of the Rachni definately had an impact on ME3.

Can't entirely remember where, but they used long words and good grammar so I'm inclined to believe they weren't lying. ^_^;

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 15th, 2012, 01:32:21 PM

If you save the queen, you hear in ME2 that the queen is building an army (on some unknown planet) to fight the Reapers :ohno

Crusader

Feb 16th, 2012, 05:26:35 AM

Is it to fight the Reapers? Or does the queen build this army to help the Reapers.

The side the Geth will join depending on your choices will be intresting as well.

Oh and what happed to Conrad Verner aka the FAN from ME1.

Glen Fiddich

Feb 16th, 2012, 07:55:32 AM

According to the cast list, Conrad Verner is in Mass Effect 3. Yay? >_<

Crusader

Feb 16th, 2012, 08:55:52 AM

Well if he has survived Mass Effect 2. The only problem is that the initial plotline for Verner was altered since you can't meet the paragon outcome of him on Illium due to the fact that Mass Effect 1 glitches the paragon choice to renegade no matter what you did.

I liked the idea of him in ME1 that he is a fan that you could inspire to become a good guy or that you can mess him up so bad that he will be a screw up forever.

Glen Fiddich

Feb 16th, 2012, 11:40:54 AM

There's a way to make Conrad die? TELL ME HOW. :ohno

Crusader

Feb 16th, 2012, 01:09:44 PM

Just treat him as bad as humanly possible in Mass Effect 2 and you will hear of his death later in the news.

Captain Untouchable

Feb 17th, 2012, 11:56:40 AM

Hmm. I shall have to be even more of an asshole, then!

In other news, the Mass Effect 3 demo has a multiplayer aspect to it, which I think became accessible today. Would anyone be up for giving it a go over the weekend?

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 18th, 2012, 04:32:48 AM

My origin username is jenoir if anyone wants to add me and try some multiplayer ME3.

Glen Fiddich

Feb 18th, 2012, 04:19:44 PM

Tried to add you as a friend earlier Jenny, but Origin was waaaay overloaded: took ten minutes just to log in. >_< Will add you later - I'm (surprisingly) o6untouchable.

Tried out a little multiplayer today. The demo is pretty light - both on variety and explanation - but after a playthrough or two you'll probably get the hang of it. In a nutshell, the game mode in the demo consists of a 4-player PvE shooter with nine waves. Some of those waves have certain targets that you need to kill within a time limit; and each wave seems to vary in composition, sometimes boasting snipers or stealth users, sometimes having biotics, and sometimes having those fuck-off giant mecha suit things. There is also an "extraction" at the end, where you have to retreat to and hold a landing zone. Each mach lasts about 20 minutes.

Powers seem to be a slimmed down version of what you get in game, with different "characters" having different powers (eg. the Quarian Engineer has a certain combination of three powers, while the Salarian Engineer has a different combo). If you complete the entire match you get a buttload of experience, so you can level up quite quickly.

You also earn credits, which allow you to buy boxes that contain five random items. Items include single use buffs, weapon upgrades and new weapons, one-shot missile launchers, and new characters: this is how you unlock other races. The more expensive the box, the better the chance you have of getting uncommon items.

To make life a little more complicated, you are only allowed to equip two weapons to each character: and it looks like they have to be from different categories (so a Soldier can't have two assault rifles, an Adept can't have two SMGs, etc). The equipping weapons menu seems to be super xbox friendly: it took me a while to work out that the unlabelled spaces on my screen are meant to represent where on your character's back the weapon clips on. (It seems obvious once you know ^_^;)

If you already play multiplayer shooters, it isn't anything to write home about. It's sort of the Mass Effect version of playing Left 4 Dead with your mates - something fun as a social activity every now and again, but not something to obsess over.

That said, it is pretty useful if you want to test out / get the hang of playing a different class to normal, and for getting to grips with the tweaked movement system, the way cover works now, and for practicing take-down tactics against mobs with riot shields, and that sort of thing.

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 19th, 2012, 04:45:22 PM

It's alright. Nothing to write home about, but pretty inoffensive as far as multiplayer content goes. I can't see myself playing much of it based on what I've seen so far.

In more exciting news, 19 days to go til ME3 is released in Europe!

Glen Fiddich

Feb 20th, 2012, 09:03:28 AM

HOLY AMAZEBALLS. :ohno

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There's apparently an "extended cut" being released tomorrow as well.

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 20th, 2012, 11:48:28 AM

Yessss YESSSSSS FUCK YOU REAPERS

Charley

Feb 20th, 2012, 01:53:43 PM

Hammerheads AND Makos oh my!

Crusader

Feb 22nd, 2012, 07:28:26 AM

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/mass-effect-3/achievements/

Good news for all of you achievement whores (so basicly me). You do not have to play Mass Effect 3 once in MP but doing so will get you some achievements easier.

I have to give Bioware a lot of credit for this because now I can enjoy multiplayer in this game for the experience and not for trying to get all the achievements.

Mass Effect 2 Second Playthrough Update: Only 3 achievements left for being a completionist :D

Dasquian Belargic

Feb 22nd, 2012, 12:27:05 PM

My copy of 'The Art of Mass Effect' just arrived and I guess it has some minor spoilers for ME3 in it :uhoh

Also check out this awesomeness, the unboxing of the game which shows that you can have a FemShep cover for your game box!

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Captain Untouchable

Feb 23rd, 2012, 12:36:58 AM

Did anyone else know that there's a Mass Effect fan film / prequel being made by a bunch of university students (http://thegamefanatics.com/red-sand-mass-effect-fan-film-university-advancing-tech-students-faculty/), starring Mark Meer? :ohno

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Dasquian Belargic

Feb 25th, 2012, 04:49:23 AM

Oh no, that hurts my brain. It doesn't feel right hearing someone other than Mark Vanderloo talking with that voice :lol

Glen Fiddich

Feb 28th, 2012, 07:57:37 PM

:3

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17eufi5bhywnpjpg/xlarge.jpg

Captain Untouchable

Mar 1st, 2012, 10:53:02 AM

Did anyone else lose their pre-order thanks to GAME? :(

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 1st, 2012, 10:53:22 AM

:lol @ Mr Men

Oh geez, I had so much nerd rage yesterday. I preordered the collectors edition with Game and then they announced they wouldn't be able to stock it. Luckily I managed to find somewhere else to preorder before the end of the day, because now it looks like most places are sold out of the collectors edition

Game :shakefist

Captain Untouchable

Mar 1st, 2012, 10:59:31 AM

Yeah, I didn't get the news quick enough. :(

Since I'll be in the middle of nowhere when the game is actually released, odds are I won't be getting the game for at least a month now. >_<

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 1st, 2012, 11:00:42 AM

There are preorders of the regular version of the game still available, but I can't find any PC collectors editions left. Only the PlayStation version still seems to be in stock :(

Captain Untouchable

Mar 1st, 2012, 11:13:30 AM

Yeah... I really wanted the collectors edition too. :(

Bloody GAME. :shakefist

Crusader

Mar 2nd, 2012, 01:46:27 AM

I am like 5 minutes away from canceling my preorder since Bioware once again screwed us by not selling the game on the X360 with the origional voice over track next to German although they do that for the PC and the PS3.

Glen Fiddich

Mar 2nd, 2012, 06:08:56 AM

It's worth bearing in mind that any cock-ups with distribution of different versions, or at different retailers are the fault of EA, not of Bioware. I know we're all smart enough to realise the distinction, but there's a hell of a lot of hate backlash against Bioware connected to this game, and it's not necessarily their fault. :(

Crusader

Mar 2nd, 2012, 06:50:24 AM

I will make a total 360° with my opinion on the Xbox 360 version. They will have a DLC VO package with the English voice track on the day the game comes out.

:dance <3 Bioware <3 :dance

EDIT: Why do we have like 50 fifty retarded smilies but not a single heart?

Crusader

Mar 2nd, 2012, 06:54:04 AM

BTW the game is not out yet and we already hit 300 posts mark. We are such Bioware whores!

Glen Fiddich

Mar 2nd, 2012, 07:41:42 AM

Don't you mean a total 180°? If you pulled a 360° you'd be facing the same way, right? :mneh

I tend to pull total 900°s, but that's because I like spinning. :mischief

Crusader

Mar 2nd, 2012, 08:13:49 AM

Well I am a sith lord from my mindset so I do not do half things... and by the way 180° are for sissies.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 2nd, 2012, 01:08:37 PM

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 2nd, 2012, 04:07:05 PM

Crusader

Mar 2nd, 2012, 04:21:27 PM

insert patriotic music here:

"I will fight for earth! I will fight for Shepard!"

Time to win back earth T-6 days.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 2nd, 2012, 04:28:43 PM

"Go out there and give them hell... you were born to do this!"

Karl Valten

Mar 2nd, 2012, 06:34:35 PM

Just got an email from Origin saying my collectors edition is on the way.

Sooooooooo excited!

Sanis Prent

Mar 2nd, 2012, 11:19:46 PM

I wish to fuck I could find a source for a preorder collectors edition. I'd cancel mine so fast right now. Oh well regular beats none at all

Karl Valten

Mar 3rd, 2012, 02:43:29 AM

Yeah......I kinda pre-order last July....I've never done that before. I've also never gotten a collector's edition before.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 3rd, 2012, 12:05:12 PM

The game isn't out here until the 9th so I guess it will be a few more days at least before my CE ships :ohno

Sanis Prent

Mar 3rd, 2012, 04:16:28 PM

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/LoungieMu/12e6a16c.jpg

Hello again friend

Crusader

Mar 3rd, 2012, 08:55:48 PM

I used kinect for dialogues in the demo tonight. At first it felt kind of forced but after 3 chat options it felt really immersive to say to Anderson: "If you stay I will stay as well!"

Sanis Prent

Mar 3rd, 2012, 11:08:47 PM

I fucking love the kinect features even if I sound like a dumbass barking commands

Karl Valten

Mar 3rd, 2012, 11:43:44 PM

I fucking love the kinect features even if I sound like a dumbass barking commands

Y'know, I really want a recording of that.

Sanis Prent

Mar 4th, 2012, 04:43:16 AM

It's basically me going: "tactical cloak! Tactical cloak! Incinerate! Overload! Warp! Concussive shot! Sub machine gun!"

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 4th, 2012, 05:33:00 AM

I'm intrigued by the Kinect for Windows, but it's so expensive right now so I'll just be sticking to mouse/keyboard.

And hey maybe I will just say my dialogue choices aloud to myself, in my best Jennifer Hale impersonation, as I click them :lol

Captain Untouchable

Mar 4th, 2012, 05:47:34 AM

Technologically speaking, I don't understand what is so special about voice recognition on the Kinect.

I had a game called SOCOM on the Playstation 2 ten years ago, and that let me do voice commands to move my squad about. The game compared the input from the microphone to a library of stock phrases, and went with the nearest match. It probably wasn't quite as good at listening as the Kinect... but voice recognition in games is hardly new technology.

Did Microsoft switch things up? Is the Kinect importing the phrase library from the game, running the comparison internally, and then exporting back the corresponding 'keystroke'? Or is it that they just "left out" the relevant code from the PC format of the game, and just included it for xbox to jump on the Kinect bandwagon?

If not, I don't get why the PC version couldn't just let you talk at it with a USB microphone. :\

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 4th, 2012, 05:57:07 AM

I'm guessing that they are hoping for/planning for more motion detection Games for Windows that the Kinect can use, since that's the main application of the Xbox Kinect right now.

Also, they want more money of course! Why let us talk into our mics when they could sell us a piece of kit that's three times the price of the game we're playing it with.

Captain Untouchable

Mar 4th, 2012, 06:25:41 AM

If the game was developed by Microsoft, then maybe the money thing would make sense. But I'm not sure it makes sense when you bar in mind that Bioware/EA are the ones making the game. As long as units sell, it makes no difference to them whether they're on PC or Xbox... and since EA publishes a lot of PC-heavy games (and has Origin) they might actually lose out if people start migrating away from PC gaming towards console gaming, so I'm not sure it's in their best interests.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 4th, 2012, 06:50:29 AM

Presumably some kind of agreement was made between EA and Microsoft to utilise the Kinect for ME3 on the PC as well as the Xbox, because they've pushed the Kinect pretty hard in some of the promotional stuff I've seen on Youtube. EA publishes plenty of console titles and most of its games are cross-platform so I can't see them worrying about losing sales one way or the other.

Crusader

Mar 4th, 2012, 08:35:10 AM

There is a deal between Microsoft and EA to incorporate Kinect into games. Mass Effect 3 is one of the better examples where the features make sense while Ubisoft's gunsmith mode for Ghost Recon got some bad press in advance.

Forcing people to use only kinect makes sense from an artistic point of view: I guess we can all agree that Mass Effect 3 is the best SciFi movie of the decade so far and so it should be enjoyed on a 30inch plus HD television and a proper 5.1 system and not on a 4:3 monitor with a $30 headset on. Kinect allows you to bark coments at the TV even while you have the volume turned all the way up due to it`s four built in microphones that can tell the difference between ambient, game and actual player sound. No klunky headset required.

But if they would have really wanted to sell systems they should have added kinect exclusive sex mini games with Garrus and Liara.

Sanis Prent

Mar 4th, 2012, 08:44:34 AM

The great thing about kinect commands is how organic it makes squad combat. Mind you it's not a hardship to go into the squad menu and tell a particular person in your unit to use a particular power, but that little break in the action can be jarring. You feel way more in the moment when a Cerberus mech rockets down on your LZ and you can just shout "Overload!" and you know Garrus has your back. It also makes the game quite playable to the point where the only buttons you really need to know are ones that make you move and shoot. I love that level of immersion

Sanis Prent

Mar 4th, 2012, 08:47:05 AM

The most displeasing thing about Mass Effect 3 so far is that Ashley no longer looks like Michelle Rodriguez. Still has giant DSLs though but the face looks not the same :(

Crusader

Mar 5th, 2012, 08:38:58 AM

I like her new look.

I hope she is finally open to threeways since Broshep will have a hard time to chose between her, Miranda and Tali.

I just hope that Jack finds a new intrest in women for Mass Effect 3 so that she and Bitchshep eventualy set this world on fire.

Glen Fiddich

Mar 5th, 2012, 10:30:05 AM

The most displeasing thing about Mass Effect 3 so far is that Ashley no longer looks like Michelle Rodriguez. Still has giant DSLs though but the face looks not the same :(

That is displeasing indeed. :(

Luckily I won't have to worry about that - true to Michelle Rodriguez type-casting, Ashley is my "protagonist who tragically died". :uhoh

Crusader

Mar 5th, 2012, 11:27:57 AM

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 5th, 2012, 11:31:52 AM

Like I said on FB, I like how she looks in that. Older than in most of the other promo stuff.

FOUR DAYS TO GO OMG :ohno

Sanis Prent

Mar 5th, 2012, 01:37:12 PM

Guys I'm freaking out over here!

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 5th, 2012, 03:06:49 PM

I've requested Friday off work, so I have a long weekend with FemShep

Karl Valten

Mar 5th, 2012, 03:26:45 PM

Blarg! Midterm next week.....and two more assignments due this week.

I wonder if the box will have arrived today......:|

I sincerely hope not as I need to get shit done this week.

Karl Valten

Mar 6th, 2012, 01:14:47 AM

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424187_2787765254684_1274880115_32191013_695927301 _n.jpg

Captain Untouchable

Mar 6th, 2012, 03:19:10 AM

BAHAHAHAHA!!! :lol

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 6th, 2012, 11:15:42 AM

Post my game Zavvi post it POST IT NOW OH GOD POST IT I NEED IT ON FRIDAY

Karl Valten

Mar 6th, 2012, 12:01:25 PM

I think we lost Jen!

Evasive Manuevers!

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 6th, 2012, 12:37:42 PM

It's okay, they posted it.

It should be here on time... should be.

BUT IF ITS NOT SO HELP ME

Karl Valten

Mar 6th, 2012, 12:53:11 PM

Got mine!

But I'm not going to be able to play until I'm done with classwork....in a few days.

Sanis Prent

Mar 6th, 2012, 01:14:11 PM

Also get Mass Effect: Infiltrator for your smart phone / mobile device. It's real good

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 6th, 2012, 01:19:14 PM

Yeah, I've played a couple of levels of that. The controls take a little getting used to but everything about it seems really slick and well-made. I linked it up to my Origin account so hopefully anything that I do in Infiltrator will contribute towards my war effort in ME3 itself

Karl Valten

Mar 6th, 2012, 05:04:00 PM

Who am I kidding, this is getting installed now. Guess I'm pulling all nighters this week.

I'm so irresponsible.

Xel-Naga

Mar 6th, 2012, 05:17:17 PM

I feel like I should play this... but I can't bring myself to. I never finished ME2. I played to the final mission and decided I wanted to upgrade my entire crew just in case that factored into the final mission (it doesn't...) so I spent a week doing nothing but grinding planets for resources and bought every. Last. Upgrade. And then I felt really good about myself, started up the mission, and unlocked Legion.

With it's own set of upgrades.

I took my controller, and I threw it on the GROUND. I haven't touched ME2 since. That was the first month it was out.

Sanis Prent

Mar 6th, 2012, 05:37:05 PM

That's a shame because legion rules and you can finish his loyalty missions right before Bad Things Happen

Karl Valten

Mar 6th, 2012, 07:37:03 PM

I already like Vega. I thought that the guy might be a complete tool.....but he such a noob it's hilarious.

Karl Valten

Mar 6th, 2012, 09:13:37 PM

Have gotten almost nowhere new. I've just been running between NPCs listening in on conversations. They usually go for a few sentences/paragraphs and pause.....then you have to wait a bit for them to continue the story (proximity based). I've been running between several to get detail..........really interesting stuff and very immersive.

Taataani Meorrrei

Mar 7th, 2012, 12:30:59 AM

So I've survived the escape from Earth and I've just left Mars. Had a blast issuing kinect commands to my fire team, although fighting Cerberus Guardians is a bitch and a half because they're effectively impervious from frontal assault.

Also Ashley, I need you to cut your bitch down about nine levels, because I am the motherfucking Ice Queen and I have Much Bigger Things to deal with than your shit.

Crusader

Mar 7th, 2012, 06:10:12 AM

Amazon just confirmed that my N7 CE has left the building. DHL will be sending me now a constant stream of email updates until it arrives at my place.

Mass Effect 2 Insanity playthrough nearly done:

The only things left are:
-Tali's loyalty quest
-Legion's loyalty quest
-Grunt's loyalty quest
-Mordin's loyalty quest
-Overload
-The Arrival
-Omega 4 Relay jump
-Suicide mission

After that I will be Peter vas Normandy SR2 saving earth

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 04:52:46 AM

I just watched Mordin Solus die. That is the most emotional a video game has ever made me feel. This game is so fucking dark

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 10th, 2012, 05:11:17 AM

Game is finally here and installing!! :eee

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 05:58:26 AM

@Charley, Sarah who would fancy increasing galactic readyness tonight? Since we all have this game for the 360 we could kick some ass and chew bubble gum together.

Kyran O'Hurn

Mar 10th, 2012, 09:14:14 AM

*raises hand*

I also have the 360 version, and would be up for some multiplayer.

my Xbox username is Psy Dev.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 10th, 2012, 09:50:08 AM

Is anyone else playing on PC?

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 11:40:07 AM

I agree with Charley. This game is dark and emotional as hell.

I'm playing on PC, Jen

Been playing quite a bit too. I've been wanting to post everytime something interesting or cool happened, but I've been refraining. Mostly because I don't want to spoil things for people.

But.....really I have no idea what. The size and scope of what's been going is nuts.

From the Normandy being one crazy animal house (actually there was an incident where it was kind of like the Animal House movie.....). Vega got Ash shit-face and I found her passed out on the floor moaning about a headache and how the floor of the cabin was so very nice and cold

To hearing all the chaos and heartbreak in the galaxy just from NPCs. I want the Illusive Man to burn over and over, hell is too nice a place for him. I don't think a freaking game has provoked that kind of response out of me

Be careful on the following, it has some hefty spoliers.

My own sadness at seeing several of my good friends dies.....Mordin......Thane.......Legion......Kelly Chambers. Why are my friends all leaving? :(

The horror that the reapers are doing to other race...and what some races are doing.........an entire colony committed suicide by rigging nukes on over their entire planet....as soon as the reapers landed they detonated the bombs.....tens of millions of people committed mass suicide.......

But there are also so many things out there giving hope. Allies joining me, miracles being pulled off. There are a few heart raising moments out there, and many opportunities just to spend time with friends and crew memeber.

More spoilers, a few minor, a few major.

Hell Garrus and I spent time at the highest part of the Presidium skeet shooting shit we chucked of the edge.......or attending a funeral with Ashley......finally seeing Tali's face (my romance option) and listening talk about setting up a house on the homeworld.

This by far has been one of the craziest and most immersive games I've played. Just seeing how all of my decisions played out and everything. Probably the best game I've played too in all aspects.

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 11:46:07 AM

@Charley, Sarah who would fancy increasing galactic readyness tonight? Since we all have this game for the 360 we could kick some ass and chew bubble gum together.

We've got a thing to go to this evening but maybe something earlier?

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 11:48:45 AM

I've played a few multiplayer games. Got my readiness up to 76%

I'm up to play if you want, Jen! Granted I still don't have a mic.

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 11:58:37 AM

Is Vega romanceable? I was hoping to ride that cholo because my femshep only fucks what she can throw away tomorrow, and after a promising start on interactions it looks like we're keeping the workplace too professional

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:04:41 PM

I dunno, I think he has too much a bromance going on with Cortez.....who I think is trying to get into my pants........while Joker is banging the ship (probably literally).......and my data analyst also want to bang the ship........and Liara's father is trying to get her to screw me....etc, etc.

Seriously when the fuck did the Normandy turn into a mass of hormonal teenagers. I know it's the end of days and everyone wants to get laid....but for fuck's sake:

1) I'm taken
2) We do still have a fucking galaxy to save
3) I don't think we have the supplies for all the different anti-biotics and shit we need for all the diseases that are going around

Cripes, I'm siding with Javik on this one. Buncha horny fucks.

Oi!

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:12:01 PM

Sorry for the double post.

Anywho as a heads up, the Galaxy at War readiness rating looks like it goes down by 1% per day. Can't just max it out at 100% and stay there.

Kyle Krogen

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:29:27 PM

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:39:08 PM

Also I love the new mechanic in the game for resource gathering. Sure, go ahead and scan! Oops! Here come half a dozen reapers run run ruuuuun

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:47:41 PM

Josh, my Origin username is jenoir if you want to add me :)

I have just spent what must be 2 hrs just running around the Citadel exploring. holy wow.

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:50:06 PM

So much of my gameplay is between every single mission, going to every deck on Normandy, talking to everyone

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:50:39 PM

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:50:39 PM

Captain Untouchable

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:50:42 PM

I decided to replay ME1 to get a max level character to play through ME2 and then, finally, ME3. I've only played the Soldier class extensively before and am rather enjoying the change of pace I found in playing an Engineer.

I have to admit that someday I want to let my entire Crew die in ME2 to see the consequences in ME3.

That's why they introduced Vega: otherwise, if you made everyone die in ME2, your squad would have consisted of you and Ashley or Kaidan. :uhoh

Everywhere seems to be sold out of the Collector's Edition now. Need to decide whether I should wait it out and try to get the CE when it's back in stock, or just bite the bullet and get a normal copy. :(

Kyle Krogen

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:54:44 PM

I'm a sucker for Collector's Editions. I'll probably end up shooting for a CE of ME3. I haven't checked to see if my local store has any in stock. Ordering from teh interwebs might be easier.

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:57:25 PM

Well my tonight is as always your afternoon, Sexypant!

:lol

Well apparently we're leaving earlier than I thought. If you're down for being up quite late I might do it tonight when we get back from this thing.

Also I am not Sexypants now. I am commander!

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 12:57:30 PM

Nobody dodges Femsheps punch and gets away with it!

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 01:00:59 PM

I notice that as an infiltrator I honestly don't use many power. Hell even most of the time I don't use tactical cloak as I 1-shot most enemies and only use it if I need to hide to run to cover.

The Blackwidow is a great sniper rifle. 3-round clips mean I can harvest through almost any enemy. Max Disruptor ammo also helps me clean through annoying shields.

Tactical cloak owns because you can get to the point where you fire off a power from within cloak as a free attack AND THEN you get a massive bonus on your conventional strike. So yes, I will max cloak, max incinerate, and then hit with the widow with maximum bonus because that just shreds

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 01:03:16 PM

Nobody dodges Femsheps punch and gets away with it!

I love that nobody ever resists punching her

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 01:22:35 PM

Jenny I can't add you for some reason. My handle is hockeyman506

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 10th, 2012, 01:40:52 PM

I'm a sucker for Collector's Editions. I'll probably end up shooting for a CE of ME3. I haven't checked to see if my local store has any in stock. Ordering from teh interwebs might be easier.

You probably should buy it soon, if you want the CE. Most retailers are sold out of it already in the UK so I'd assume the same would be the case in the US.

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 02:12:59 PM

LOL I just sent vega on his back but I am cool with him calling me Lola.

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 02:14:08 PM

you can always buy a CE from another European country since I think Origin will download the correct audio for your account anyway.

Zem Vymes

Mar 10th, 2012, 02:22:31 PM

LOL I just sent vega on his back but I am cool with him calling me Lola.

Hey, if the shoe fits

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 02:58:53 PM

When the hell did the volus get a Dreadnought?!! And Planetary Assault Frigates?!

O_o

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 04:43:55 PM

And the award for best friend in the galaxy goes to Mr. Garrus Vakarian

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 05:23:14 PM

Well I would never go into full frontal "sparing" with Garrus but he can always have my back.

Karl Valten

Mar 10th, 2012, 05:55:44 PM

Annnnnd Tali just drank a bottle of Turian Brandy.......by herself.....

Me: "Tali how are getting drunk?"

Tali: "Very carefully.......Turian Brandy..........and an emergency induction filter....."

Me: "Tali, that's a straw....."

And it goes on. She's drunkenly provoking people.....

This is too amusing.

Emelie Shadowstar

Mar 10th, 2012, 09:14:27 PM

I take back every mean thing I ever said about Liara... She just showed me the little side project she's been working on... Yeah, got me all teary eyed. *fist shake*

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 09:17:23 PM

Citadel Hanar investigation
Katsumi Nooooo! ... Oh she survived. Good girl! BTW has anyone not played stolen memories? Does this quest appear anyway and the Salarian has to do the job?

Crusader

Mar 10th, 2012, 09:18:41 PM

Everyone is enjoying their little Mass Effect Micro Cosmus right now?

Sanis Prent

Mar 10th, 2012, 11:35:03 PM

I was indisposed tonight. Will play more tomorrow. Speaking of, if you'd like to get some gaming in a few hours before dark banana Peter, I'm gonna wake up extra early

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 11th, 2012, 09:26:52 AM

My fav quotes of the day from ME3 so far, both said by Garrus:

"I'm Garrus Vakarian and this is my favorite spot on the Citadel!"

"Jimmy Vega... sounds like a stripper from Omega."

I take back every mean thing I ever said about Liara... She just showed me the little side project she's been working on... Yeah, got me all teary eyed. *fist shake*

I got all emotional here as well :3 This is why I love Liara.

Sanis Prent

Mar 11th, 2012, 10:09:34 AM

Me and Peter are busting skulls in multiplayer before Dark Banana

Kyran O'Hurn

Mar 11th, 2012, 10:29:51 AM

I'm going to login in about 10-15 minutes if you are interested in a third.

One of you needs to add me to your friends list though as I don't have either of you.

Charley

Mar 11th, 2012, 11:38:14 AM

stab

Stab

STAB

STAAAAB

STAAAAAAAB

Saidra

Mar 11th, 2012, 11:41:17 AM

:D I am so down for more of this.

I'm actually having a ton of fun playing a biotic.

Karl Valten

Mar 11th, 2012, 02:32:40 PM

So, finished the game (Damn I really did go through this fast). I'll put my thoughts on the ending in spoiler tags, but will try to avoid any plot details for those still playing.

Please don't read until you finish as well.

What. The. Fuck. That has to be the most disappointing ending in almost any game I've played. I really feel like we got jipped here. For the record I went full paragon, spent a lot of time making sure all of my crew stayed alive, and spent a lot of time on the romance arc with Tali.

And in the end all of the story, all of the immersion, all of the interaction is pretty much for nothing? The ending entirely depends only on the choice to destroy or preserve the collector base and the effective military strength.....paragon/renegade make no difference.

And even with that you have the option to choose one of three endings (for each military score 'bracket' it's a bit different). And went an did all the choices from saves....but all of them....well.....they just sucked.

There is almost no closure, it really doesn't end on a high note at all, and it seems like all of the work and effort to make such a unique story for your character is just shot out the window.

I mean seriously? The reason for the Reapers is that freaking simplified?

And the endings.....we just spent the last 3 games working against all odds to unite the galaxy in harmony. I mean, I don't expect a hunky-dory ending by any means. But doing my best to be an expemplar of the paragon tracks.....I still get the same ending options with no story closure?

And no matter what you do the mass relays are destroyed. What message does that give? Despite all of your efforts the galaxy is now completely divided with each race scattered about. There is no communication. There is no hope of a peaceful galactic civilization working together.

And what about the Normandy, why the hell were they jumping through a mass relay when the Crucible fired? And how did my crew from the ground fight get on the ship? And then what? They crash-land on an unknown world full of plant life and shiney scenes......uh....guess what they're the only ones there....there is no hope of rescue without the mass relays......how is that an ideal ending......they're all dead without an chance to escape.

What happens to the rest of the galaxy in this supposed "Paragon" ending. Where is the closure? What's the reward for being the best "good guy" I could (or even "bad guy" considering paragon/renegade really has no meaning).

And even the final battle....where were the rachni, the Elcor, the Volus, the Batarians, Aria's army of mercs. The minor characters I really came to like as well. What happened to them?

And worst of all:

After the whole heart-wrenching dialogue and exchanges with all the different characters over the course of the games in prep for the final battle.....especially the interaction with Tali (my romance option) and the hopeful talk to building a house on Rannoch and being together. Where was the acknowledgement to all the friends and allies that died?

Organics and Synthetics working together (Geth/Quarrian/whatever), restoring Thesia (seriously, I got teary eyed watching the planet fall), seeing the Krogan rise and reintegrate, watching Earth be rebuilt.

Where is all of that (last two paragraphs)? I just feel so disappointed and underwhelmed after all of that.....

What the hell, bioware......after all that fantastic story....why end it with no closure....why end it the same way no matter how you play....why no reward for either paragon/renegade options. Why no continuation of the romance options?

For all this message of hope, galactic unity, progress, sacrifice, and determination this whole thing just seems.......empty...and hollow. Feels just rushed and shoddy.

This is probably the most favorite story I've come across in a long time (in an media form). So well written, intricate, and immersive. A lot of attachments even to just minor characters. And all of it just seems like a waste to me with these ending options.

The whole ending is just one giant deus ex machina to me....

Biggest let down ever.

Sanis Prent

Mar 11th, 2012, 11:29:01 PM

I take back every loathsome thing I said about multiplayer. That + the bonuses you get in the phone game, give a real feeling of an infinite battle space

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 12th, 2012, 05:43:06 PM

Karl Valten

Mar 12th, 2012, 06:43:28 PM

Sanis Prent

Mar 12th, 2012, 11:31:49 PM

Conrad...Verner...useful???!!! Mind blown!

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 13th, 2012, 01:57:53 AM

oh god I just wiped out an entire species :cry part of me wants to revert to a previous save game, so I can make that choice again, but I've got to stick to what my Shepard would do... no second guessing :cry

Quarian / Geth part?

Yes :( I gave the Geth their sentience and Admiral Han'Gerel would not stand down, so the Quarians were wiped out. I feel so bad. I went back aboard the Normandy afterwards and it felt so silent and empty without Tali there...

Karl Valten

Mar 13th, 2012, 03:50:45 AM

I played a few different routes with that whole story arc....and the above one....never again....and with Tali as my love interest I had to pick the one that kept her alive after the run-throughs, I just couldn't take that sad version.......watching her do that was just.......-shudder-......I about balled my eyes out. Will never watch that scene again.

So many emotional moments in this game it's just nuts.

** Warning**

Another end-game thought that you shouldn't read unless you have finished the game follows:

(a small bit of continuation from above)

Ending just shafts everything though, IMO....see my previous spoiler filled post when you're done.

There is a theory on the bioware forums that the entire ending sequence after the laser beam black-out scene is a bunch of hallucinations and Shep fighting off indoctrination......which kinda would explain the fuck-up of continuity and choices that make no sense........which may pave the way for DLC or ME4.

In either case I'm still pissed off about the ending and will be for a damned long time

Kyran O'Hurn

Mar 13th, 2012, 10:00:52 AM

** Warning**

Another end-game thought that you shouldn't read unless you have finished the game follows:

There is a theory on the bioware forums that the entire ending sequence after the laser beam black-out scene is a bunch of hallucinations and Shep fighting off indoctrination......which kinda would explain the fuck-up of continuity and choices that make no sense........which may pave the way for DLC or ME4.

In either case I'm still pissed off about the ending and will be for a damned long time

Reply to Karl, as he says do not read unless you've finished...

I agree with your thoughts about the ending. I'm not big on "happy endings" having to happen, but would have loved to see at least one option where Shep lives. If I was going to guess though, I would bet that part of the reason for what they did was the sheer number of endings they would have had to create based on all of the decisions that would have to be a part of the process. Though I guess if you use their current endings as a template, you could argue that they could have used only a couple and still made the fans happy.

In regards to your comment about the theory of an alternate ending inside of DLC, it's certainly possible. But not sure they could do that, just based on the sheer size of the DLC pack that would be needed (in terms of data size), as you would again have to build in multiple endings.

The thing about ME DLC in the past that leads me to believe that it won't be happening, is that they add missions into the main storyline, the ME2 stuff didn't directly affect ME2, though it did come up in ME3.

Guess I don't know :p

However, if it was preplanned they could have included that kind of thing on the discs already and a DLC accesses them. Not sure if that is possible either.

As for ME4. I can't recall having read or seen anything about BioWare saying that ME4 isn't happening. I guess the only question I would have is what would the game be about, if he is fighting indoctrination, then the Reapers are still a bit of a threat, but if he's already on the Citadel there's not much there.

I guess anything is possible. And I would love another game. My only comment, would be that I hope if they do make a ME4 that they don't use some really cheesy reason for Shep to be alive again.

Kyle Krogen

Mar 13th, 2012, 10:02:33 AM

Looks like my chances of getting a Special Edition are none. Not only is everyone out of them, including internet retailers, but my local stores are out of the normal edition too. Very sad panda.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 13th, 2012, 11:52:42 AM

There's always the digital download version, if you can play it on your PC.

Otherwise your best bet is probably Amazon to order a standard edition console copy.

Xel-Naga

Mar 13th, 2012, 11:58:20 AM

I could play it on my PC, but I played the last two on the Xbox.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 13th, 2012, 12:38:20 PM

Ah, then no. You gotta get the console version so you can import your save!

Xel-Naga

Mar 13th, 2012, 03:04:31 PM

Indeed. Gotta get my vaguely asian and/or hispanic Shepard. They always end up looking somewhat Asian whenever I make a custom Shepard...

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 13th, 2012, 06:01:33 PM

I'm in the final stretch of my first play-through right now, having finally reached the battlefield on Earth, and I'm about to enter the 'no mans land' between the resistance HQ and the Reaper "beam" that's connected to the Citadel. What an emotional journey so far... I bet it will only get more emotional :cry

Taataani Meorrrei

Mar 13th, 2012, 11:34:21 PM

So I came back to the Citadel after the Cerberus attack and I'm bombarded by about 30 new missions! Joy!

Does anybody have any idea how I'm supposed to meet Thane? He sent me a message on Normandy insinuating that he'd be at the Huerta clinic under an assumed name but I've checked a few times and see nothing. Is that just a fluff piece or is he planning on meeting later on his terms?

Also Kelly Chambers gets executed and I find out about it in an off-handed comment? Damn!

How close am I to finishing the game if I'm just leaving Citadel for the 2nd time? My combat readiness is astounding, if I'm reading this correctly.

Karl Valten

Mar 14th, 2012, 12:00:14 AM

Does anybody have any idea how I'm supposed to meet Thane? He sent me a message on Normandy insinuating that he'd be at the Huerta clinic under an assumed name but I've checked a few times and see nothing. Is that just a fluff piece or is he planning on meeting later on his terms?

I ran into him right away there and never got any message. Since this is [after the attack you may have missed the chance to meet him. Keprals Syndrome and all that....who intervened against Kai Leng in your play-through?

Also Kelly Chambers gets executed and I find out about it in an off-handed comment? Damn!

I know! I was like "Holy Shit, no!" But strangely I thought it worked with how the story played out. Sad as hell none the less. The only thing I really wish is that we could have had a funeral for her....she was Normandy crew after all

How close am I to finishing the game if I'm just leaving Citadel for the 2nd time? My combat readiness is astounding, if I'm reading this correctly.

Hmm, I made a lot of runs back to the Citadel...just to see where the crew would go a visit, spend time talking with them, and just listening to all the NPCs.

The Asari Commando in the hospital was a great one to listen in on....took for freaking ever to get the whole story....but damn it was shocking as hell... I used my spectre powers to give her the damn gun...after what she's been through and all, I think it'd be a mercy

Uhmmm are you off to meet the Quarians? You still have quite a bit left if you do all the side quests and spend as much time as I did just dicking around on the Normandy or on the Citadel.

Cirrsseeto Quez

Mar 14th, 2012, 12:04:55 AM

I'm trying to remember who attacked Kai Leng. It all happened so fast to be honest.

I've been given the Quarian mission, yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna dick around with a few things first. I am mostly keen on helping Aria and all her dirty deeds. Hopefully this somehow lets me cross paths with Zaeed.

Also yeah the PTSD Asari Huntress was an absolute awful thing to listen to. Whoever wrote that dialogue is a demented bastard.

Also whoever wrote the screenplay to Blasto 6 is a comedic genius.

Karl Valten

Mar 14th, 2012, 12:15:51 AM

I love that I can get side tracked in this game just to listen to random NPCs talking.

Liara and Matriarch Atheyta at the Cafe in the Presidium Commons also gets pretty funny. I swear Atheyta is a female version of Clint Eastwood ala Gran Torino.....but with psychic powers in addition to the gun.

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 14th, 2012, 01:42:12 AM

Minor spoilers re Zaeed and Kelly Chambers

Kelly Chambers was alive and in the Citadel refugee camp I'm my game. I also found Zaeed there, after stopping him from kidnapping a Volus ambassador.

Karl Valten

Mar 14th, 2012, 08:29:30 AM

Dasquian Belargic

Mar 14th, 2012, 11:42:50 AM

Minor spoilers re Zaeed and Kelly Chambers

Kelly Chambers was alive and in the Citadel refugee camp I'm my game. I also found Zaeed there, after stopping him from kidnapping a Volus ambassador.

Did you tell her to change her identity?

Uhh... pass? I don't remember what I told her to be honest. I know that we had a conversation about how she couldn't come back aboard the Normandy though.

BTW regarding how to meet Thane... you have to visit and speak to him before the Cerberus attack on the Citadel, otherwise he will die without you meeting him. IIRC you get a message from him just after you rescue the Turian Primark. If you don't meet him before Cerberus attacks the Citadel, Captain Kirrahe will fight off Kai Leng for you. (Kirrahe is the Salarian who helped you out on Virmire at the krogan breeding facility in the first game.)