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Dasquian Belargic
Jun 27th, 2010, 12:45:09 AM
Okay, let's discuss the future of this faction. This is mostly if you are a current member, but also for those who have contemplated creating a character with us too.

First, a recap of the history of the faction since the reset:

The KA began as a relatively small faction, whose influence and impact on the galaxy at large was minimal. With a core group of key players, we established Onderon as the site of great political intrigue and deceit, as it was revealed that the Queen and her ward were students of a Sith Lord who had come to Onderon to gain a public profile and influence. Joining this trio was a former Jedi who came to Onderon looking for the tomb of Freedon Nadd, and ended up pledging her loyalty to the Sith.

Since then, the character base has expanded to include guardsmen, smugglers, ambassadors and various members of the court - and has also assimilated the royal family of the Hapes Consortium, by a politically arranged marriage. Having placed an heir of their chosing on the Hapan throne, the KA control by proxy the Hapan fleet and are beginning to establish links with other indepedent factions, such as the Cizerack Pride and Bounty Hunters Guild. They maintain, as they have always done, a moderately sized force of Mandalorian warriors, who would die for one of the KA's members.

NOW

Where do we go from here? What are your characters goals? How can we mesh them all into a storyline that will do justice to everything that has come before?

Lilaena De'Ville
Jun 27th, 2010, 12:53:58 AM
Lilaena is on assignment to the Rebel Alliance with her apprentice, Akasha Kahn (who is to find out where the Jedi are hiding if the rumors are TRUE!)

By the time that arc is done Akasha will be promoted from apprentice because she'll have earned it... and Lilaena will be ready to... to... put the hurt on the Empire for REALS this time!!!!! :shakefist TREMBLE IN FEAR EMPIREFOLK!

*ahem* coffcoff :angel

Dasquian Belargic
Jun 27th, 2010, 01:09:11 AM
My goal with Salem is the same as it has always been: complete galactic domination by assuming the title of Emperor. Whether that's of the Galactic Empire, or some new Empire, I don't really mind.

One thing I did think might be beneficial was if we could get an insider with the Empire in some place of influence. It wouldn't have to be a Minister or a Moff, but.. an Intel agent maybe. Someone who could keep us abreast on the Empire's dealings.

Lilaena De'Ville
Jun 27th, 2010, 01:10:25 AM
We can always do the 'assassinate X and replace with our guy' that we did with the Black Hand (well WE did it, the whole group didn't) and Mon Thareena ;)

Now THAT was a lot of fun. :D

Dasquian Belargic
Jun 27th, 2010, 01:14:23 AM
Right! I suppose we would need to have someone lower in the food chain then, to act as the person who we're going to advance. I wonder if any of our current members would be able to fulfil the role?

Lilaena De'Ville
Jun 27th, 2010, 01:27:29 AM
Well, Onderon could always join the Empire, lol!

Miranda Tarkin
Jun 27th, 2010, 05:04:54 AM
I'm not quite certain the Queen would be amicable to that relationship. Having another woman as a leader is interesting to her, but it is the Empire... she is wary for good reason to think her people would end up being subjugated by them over time if there were an alliance.

Of course as you can tell, Adraudia's goal is still to have Onderon make its mark in the galaxy but ensuring that her people remain prosperous and free of war as much as possible :)

Dasquian Belargic
Jun 27th, 2010, 05:10:06 AM
I did, if possible, want to keep Onderon out of the Empire until the KA had control of the leadership. From the beginning, Salem has promised to Adraudia that everything he has done is for the betterment of Onderon, and I think he would have a hard time convincing her that allowing Onderon to become homogenised with Imperial cultural/leadership is a good thing.

We have the Hapan fleet to provide us with the strength enough to conquer planets, and their cultural ideology is so much more in tune with Onderon's.

Captain Untouchable
Jun 27th, 2010, 10:01:02 AM
Now that the KA has a consolodated power base, "making friends" might be a sensible next stage. Setting up trade partnerships, and otherwise getting friendly with other planets would be a great cover for Salem & co to start worming their way into the political infrastructure on other planets. And of course, with that consolodated power base, he doesn't necessarily need to aim for the "small" ones, either.

Naboo might be a good option. It's relatively nearby, and there's also that independence movement going on. That obviously hinges on other plot arcs that are going on, but there's no harm in laying the groundwork. Similarly, the Corporate Sector's status all hinges on what is happening with Operation Tear, but having an established relationship between Onderon and the CSA sets us up as a potential future ally.

Once the KA has these friends on other worlds, we can start manipulating them. We can hire pirates (or maybe use Chir'daki's ties to Black Sun, or LDV's influence with the rebels) to "fake" attacks on their trade routes, making our friends want to set up trade alliances, mutual protection treaties, and so forth with Onderon. We can start drawing people together, establish a "commonwealth" that is based on trade... and from there, Salem can start working his way towards leadership.

Then it's only a few Palpatine-inspired steps to turn that from a commonwealth to an empire. And if we've secured alliances with other worlds like Dathomir, or Lok, or groups like Black Sun, or other people, then we'll have the power to enforce the new empire, once it exists.

Maybe? I dunno. Random ideas fell out of my head.

Dasquian Belargic
Jun 27th, 2010, 10:12:43 AM
I can't remember if Naboo was one of the planets I had previously thought about, because of it's matriachial history... but I know I did put up a list of planets would could think of targetting. Maybe I should have another look at that.

Akasha Khan
Jun 27th, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
Akasha remains a ready-made pawn to be allocated at your leisure. All she wants right now is to be important and powerful.

Still waiting on the arc with the Jedi to get into full swing. :)

Lilaena De'Ville
Jun 28th, 2010, 12:49:42 AM
I was joking about joining the Empire, of course. :p

Jedi thing, going to get full swing, I need to post. :uhoh

Carré Inirial
Jul 1st, 2010, 09:40:52 PM
This might be a good way to get Ana'Sera active...especially if you dispose of someone whose place she can take...she is a shape-shifter, after all. Might be nice for her to actually *use* her abilities :D

Also, Jenny, don't forget about Chrysothemis...she's been languishing, the poor thing, with nothing and no one to do :(

Emelie Shadowstar
Jul 1st, 2010, 10:17:09 PM
and no one to do :(
Reg is screaming in my brain right now >:
This may or may not be because of too much tequila.


Also so as not to completely derail this thread I shall give this a proper reply when sober seeing as how the Twins have a pretty vested interest in what goes on being the Ambassador et all

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 2nd, 2010, 12:34:10 AM
This might be a good way to get Ana'Sera active...especially if you dispose of someone whose place she can take...she is a shape-shifter, after all. Might be nice for her to actually *use* her abilities :D

Also, Jenny, don't forget about Chrysothemis...she's been languishing, the poor thing, with nothing and no one to do :(

Ana'Sera! Perfecto. Now we just need to get her acquainted with the KA somehow.

Chrys.. well, Daria and Navaria are actually on their way to Dathomir now to explore, if you wanted to bump into them. They will be taking some witches back to the Wheel with them.. ;)

Carré Inirial
Jul 2nd, 2010, 07:14:32 AM
Em, I love you :D Kass drags Reginald off to have a "discussion" *cough*

As for Ana...it could be as simple as her being on a solo mission and being too brash about her abilities? Perhaps she slips up one night and someone from KA catches her? I have this very sort of "dark, stormy night" and a trenchcoat vision in my head.

Are they now! Well! I'll have to chat with Chrysothemis and see what she thinks about that...I mean, she'd have to -behave-...

Jason Mcgraves
Jul 2nd, 2010, 08:47:30 AM
I was gonna suggest Ana'Sera but she beat me to the punch.

*shakes fist* My partner is a traitor. lol

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:01:37 AM
Well, she is an Imp. What more would you expect? :mneh

Captain Untouchable
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:16:16 AM
Speaking of Imps - I have an Imperial Ambassador (Ceto Rübezahl) at a loose end to some degree. Does Hapes or Onderon warrant its own Ambassador, maybe?

Jamo Jakatta
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:17:36 AM
Well, the Vilissar Twins are our existing ambassador for the Hapes-Onderon coalition. I'll leave it up to the ladies to decide whether they want any assistance in the field of.. ambassadoring.

:whaa

The Vilissar Twins
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:18:09 AM
... can we torture him? :angel:angel

Salem Ave
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:19:18 AM
Just don't leave any cuts or bruises.

;)

The Vilissar Twins
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:21:50 AM
Emotional trauma? Hmm... Sounds intriguing. Though something tells me Ceto may not want to play second fiddle/assistant to <strike>two sadistic girls</strike> an inexperienced young woman.

Lilaena De'Ville
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:43:49 AM
The Empire might have an ambassador to the Hapes/Onderon alliance, however. Yes? No?

Salem Ave
Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:45:57 AM
That is a possibility, yes. In which case, you girls can spend your time trying to make us seem as dull as possible ;)

Emelie Shadowstar
Jul 2nd, 2010, 11:28:39 AM
... why do I suddenly think of the poor French Ambassador being kinda snubbed/talked shit to in all those eps of the Tudors?

"We're... so pleased to have you at court... *cough*even if we hate you.*coughcough*" :lol

Captain Untouchable
Jul 2nd, 2010, 11:44:20 AM
Ceto is a retired film star - I'm pretty sure he won't have any adversion to playing anything with a pair of hot, twenty-something twins. ;)

I'm gonna factor Ceto into the "Reputation" Rogue thread, and then I'll work out how he winds up getting to Onderon. I like your idea, Holly - is the alliance actually "official" though, or just something that has come into being that the Imperials might feel nervous about? Maybe just an Ambassador-at-Large in that general region, what with the Stenness Node and Zeltros being in that corner of the galaxy and all.


Speaking of the Stenness Node, that might be another region to look into. On this (http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090904110315/starwars/images/0/07/TheInnerRim.jpg) map (from the new Atlas), it's most of the systems in the middle of O10 - Ambria (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ambria), Taboon (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Taboon), Merson (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Merson), and Ithull (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ithull) - and they largely appear to be independant mining worlds, that Onderon could take under its wing and protection, potentially.

There's also Porus Vida (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Porus_Vida) in O9 (between Hapes and Onderon), which is a sort of pretty garden type planet, which would presumably mesh with Onderon and Hapes' mentalities somewhat. Back in O10, there's Zeltros (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zeltros) too, which we spoke about briefly.

Also, if Salem were to secure the alligence of Nazzri (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nazzri) in P9 of the Mid Rim (map (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090904111015/starwars/images/0/0a/TheMidRim.jpg)), that would write off the entire Zeltros-Nazzri arm of the Lesser Lantillian Route, and put it squarely under Onderon control. That might make for a nice, consolodated piece of real estate for the hub of Salem's empire. Also, interestingly, the last Emperor-King of Nazzri (who, granted, lived 5,000 years ago) was a dark sider. Might be interesting to "restore the throne" there, or some such, to emphasise the Dark Sideiness.


Yes, I like maps. :uhoh

Lilaena De'Ville
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
Well, he could be the new ambassador to the Hapes Cluster (don't ask what happened to the last one! I imagine it was bad lol), which would mean he's aware of the new alliance between them and Onderon?

Captain Untouchable
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:32:41 PM
Would Hapes have an Imperial ambassador at this point, or are they still fairly isolationist and secretive?

If the Empire knows that someone from Onderon is now the Regent of Hapes, then groovy: a "Hmm, we'd better send an ambassador to keep an eye on things" approach makes sense. If they don't know, then it just means we have to think of a reason for them to send a new ambassador to one of the other; and that they'll find out, potentially react to the new discovery, etc. *shrug*

Either works. :)

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:46:14 PM
As far as I have written, there has been no Imperial ambassador to Hapes to this point. I suppose that there has been a change of reigime lately (the Queen Mother killed, the Prince and Princess missing, and the Prince's infant daughter now acting Queen Mother) might attract Imperial attention... I don't know though.

Salem would certainly be engineering the Consortium to remain isolationist, aside from its (loose) ties to Onderon. Our alliance is built on the fact that the Hapan Prince married Razielle, who was word of the Onderonian Queen. So it's not so much an official alliance as, Salem has secured himself control of the throne through marriage and the birth of an heir.

Lilaena De'Ville
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:49:01 PM
Perhaps they just send someone by to be friendly and check on things (to either Onderon or Hapes) but they see too much and we cannot let them leave!

I kind of like the idea of someone trying to spy on us, and sending reports... that are always intercepted. >D

Captain Untouchable
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:50:14 PM
Would an Imperial ambassador to Onderon, with a secret mandate to find out what the hell is going on between Onderon and Hapes, be something that would work, then? Or would Salem turn away such an ambassador?

And would it make a difference if the ambassador showed up in a Star Destroyer? :mischief

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:51:06 PM
By all means, send someone to spy on Hapes. Unfortunately, I have heard there are pirates rife at the edges of the Consortum.. who knows what terrible fate a poor, innocent Imperial ambassador might stumble into :mischief

As for the ambassador to Onderon.. I would be surprised if Onderon had even registered on the Empire's radar, but then I have always imagined us as keeping our heads down and our noses clean, in the interest of avoiding detection. Both Ondeorn and Hapes value their neutrality, so I can't say that an Imperial ambassador would be welcomed... but we wouldn't just kill them for showing up. We would lie very convincingly to them until they left :mneh

Captain Untouchable
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:58:31 PM
Unless there happens to be a manipulative SOB who has a penchant for manipulation and blackmail, who might try to influence such an ambassador into a potential ally with promises of power, or sexy Sith twins.

Hmm. I wonder if there's anyone on Onderon like that... :mischief

Salem Ave
Jul 2nd, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
I wonder...

:angel

Tear
Jul 2nd, 2010, 04:30:31 PM
Depending on when you folks are planning to do this in the time line of things. Hapes and Onderon sit roughly near the edge of the war front between the Empire and the Independents.

If you decide to place this thread after the war breaks out. It would be feasible to see the Empire sending an Ambassador to Hapes at least to gauge their intentions in the upcoming war. Might give a nice 'reason to be there' sort of thing.

Just an idea.;)

Jason Mcgraves
Jul 2nd, 2010, 08:22:23 PM
I would be surprised if Onderon had even registered on the Empire's radar, but then I have always imagined us as keeping our heads down and our noses clean, in the interest of avoiding detection. Both Ondeorn and Hapes value their neutrality, so I can't say that an Imperial ambassador would be welcomed... but we wouldn't just kill them for showing up. We would lie very convincingly to them until they left

Just a quick question on this. Is there not a Hapen fleet/ ships protecting Onderon space?

Cause your right Onderon by itself wouldn't raise any flags for the empire. However if a group of hapen ships is now around the planet and if there is some type of movement between the consortium and Onderon that might raise a few flags. Probably nothing to big though since they are dealing with independents and rebels atm.

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 3rd, 2010, 03:29:16 AM
Hapes provides a very small number of ships to Onderon. They were initially dispatched to deal with pirates (see: A Chink in the Armor (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15687)) but the Hapan Royal Navy isn't permanently stationed around Onderon. We are a small planet with small concerns, compared to the vastness of space that is the Hapes Cluster, so naturally we don't warrant constant guard. Given how quiet Onderon space has been lately (and with the drama surrounding the Princess Elaine's flight/kidnapp) I would imagine one ship at most has remained behind, with a contingent of starfighters, in the event that Onderon's shipping lanes should become comprimised again.

It's also worth noting that according to our galaxy map: http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p19/DirtyMongooze/Star-Wars-Galaxy-Map1.jpg Hapes and Onderon are direct neighbours. The Hapes Cluster and the Japrael Sector sit side by side, making the two worlds natural trading partners. That there should be some interchange of resources between them is hardly suspicious ;)

Captain Untouchable
Jul 3rd, 2010, 08:03:17 AM
I think waiting to implement Tear's suggestion might be the best bet, then. After all, Ceto has just been negotiating with independent systems at the opposite end of The Independents (up Serenno way), so it makes a certain degree of sense that he might be sent to do the same with Hapes and Onderon: not necessarily to bring them on-side with the Empire, but to at least ensure that they aren't going to join up with the Independents?

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 3rd, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
That would make sense. I didn't realise that we were on the edge of the battle lines, so to speak.

Dasquian Belargic
Jul 4th, 2010, 03:30:02 AM
KA peeps.. there is some info up in our planning forum that I would be grateful if you'd take a look at :)