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Captain Untouchable
Mar 7th, 2010, 09:22:06 PM
The general approach to canon on Fans - in my understanding, at least - is that "they all died at Endor". For a lot of characters that works pretty well: most of the main ones were either on the Death Star, in the Battle, or on Endor's moon itself; so having them killed in some appropriate way is easy enough.

There are some characters however for whom that isn't so easy. There are some canon characters who weren't there. There are also some EU characters who weren't there, but have been referenced in threads, in backstories, etc - I've seen mention of Ysanne Isard, some of the Mandalorian-related characters, and so forth; and there might be non-EU buffs who don't know the specifics of how Xizor died, etc.

I thought it might be helpful to put together a list of any important canon and EU characters, with a quick note of how they died. Assuming y'all think it's a good idea as well, I'll come back and edit any extra submissions (or added detail?) into this first post... and then maybe put it up on the wiki once we start getting a comprehensive list?

Anyhow, as far as I know (alphabetical, by surname) -

Admiral Ackbar - killed aboard Home One, during the Battle of Endor.
Wedge Antilles - killed while assaulting the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Lando Calrissian - killed while assaulting the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Tycho Celchu - killed while assaulting the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Chewbacca - killed on Endor's moon, during the Battle of Endor.
Boba Fett - eaten by the Sarlaac on Tatooine.
Ysanne Isard - executed for falsifying the evidence that led to the execution of Armand Isard.
Wes Janson - killed while assaulting the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Derek Klivian - killed while assaulting the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Crix Madine - killed during the Battle of Endor.
Nien Nunb - killed while assaulting the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Princess Leia Organa - killed on Endor's moon, during the Battle of Endor.
Emperor Palpatine - killed aboard the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Fenn Shysa - killed in a space battle with Admiral Miltin Takel, in the Mandalore Sector.
Luke Skywalker - killed aboard the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Han Solo - killed on Endor's moon, during the Battle of Endor.
Miltin Takel - killed in a space battle with Fenn Shysa, in the Mandalore Sector.
Jabba Desilijic Tiure - strangled aboard his Sail Barge on Tatooine.
Darth Vader - killed aboard the Death Star, during the Battle of Endor.
Prince Xizor - killed on Coruscant, for breaking an agreement with Darth Vader.

Characters I'm not sure about, but who might be worth devising a death for:

- Carlist Rieekan? -- was he at Endor (not seen on screen)?
- Admiral Thrawn?
- Mon Mothma? -- killed at Endor?
- Bossk, Zuckuss, other bounty hunters?
- The Emperor's aides (Sate Pestage, etc)?
- Whoever was Grand Inquisitor before Karl Valten?
- Other Admirals and such whose names I can't be bothered to look up?
- Significant Naboo characters (Panaka, the Queen, etc), since we're doing stuff there?

I'm sure there are more, that'll be relevant to your respective characters and what-not. Is it worth putting in people who died earlier as well - Tarkin, for example - anyone who is a canon / EU character, and who is now dead?

Karl Valten
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:24:05 AM
- Whoever was Grand Inquisitor before Karl Valten?


Tear was Grand Inquisitor before Valten.

In canon, Grand Inquisitor Laddinare Torbin was killed by an assassin droid. I think this guy was probably Tear's predecessor.

Gwenc'hlan Le Scouëzec
Mar 8th, 2010, 07:50:42 AM
I've got some EU people my various characters were/are linked to, which you can add to the list if you want to:


Fenn Shysa and Grand Admiral Miltin Takel both died during a space battle, around the time of Endor.

Clan Skirata and any of the Clones at Kyrimorut on Mandalore (from the RepCom/ImpCom Books) - whoever was still alive, they'll be dead soon.

Oh, and you might want to add Guri to that list - she could have simply expired at the end of Shadows of the Empire, instead of getting away.
Also - Artoo and Threepio need to have been destroyed.

Lilaena De'Ville
Mar 8th, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
Some of the more obscure Imp and Reb people can be assumed to still be alive I suppose, we just don't mention them more than simply in passing. We were mostly concerned with 'heroes and villains' from the movies.

Artoo and 3PO were destroyed on Endor with Han and Leia. Or maybe they live with the Ewoks, ruling them as gods! We'll never know... :mischief

Captain Untouchable
Mar 8th, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
"Clan Skirata" is a bit vague, especially when you don't know the EU backwards any specific individual that need mentioning in particular?

I didn't include Artoo and Threepio, because technically they aren't people, and didn't die, so they fell outside the purview of the list. ;) Same with Guri, IG-88, etc. I can add in droids if people want... but since they don't have a job that needs replacing, etc... *shrug*

Looks like pre-Tear has been dead a while, so I won't worry about that.

Sanis Prent
Mar 8th, 2010, 05:09:33 PM
Guri's demise might be directly or indirectly linked with Eluna, as they're "sisters" of a sort

Lilaena De'Ville
Mar 8th, 2010, 10:58:11 PM
In Shadows of the Empire didn't Guri get away? So perhaps she's 'alive' somewhere, just living her life out on the down low, never to be mentioned again.

The EU characters don't all need to be dead, as I said. ;)

Sanis Prent
Mar 8th, 2010, 11:05:30 PM
That's true, I'm just thinking aloud. I haven't really written anything of Guri into Eluna's backstory beyond that they're both built by Simonelle and Massad Thrumble.

Lilaena De'Ville
Mar 9th, 2010, 02:45:35 AM
It works better for our 'avoiding copyrighted characters' shtick if they're in our backstories as little as possible, really. So that's not a bad thing. ;)

Captain Untouchable
Mar 9th, 2010, 05:00:10 AM
I think there's a difference between avoiding using copyright characters in our backstory, and just sticking our fingers in our ears, humming loudly, and pretending there isn't a problem.

Sure, we don't have to kill them. It's just a pretty effective way of making sure they don't come back again. In the Guri case for example: if she's not dead, there must be some sort of reason that she hasn't shown up and got involved with all the BS/BN stuff we've had going on?

She doesn't need to be dead, but one less question mark would be nice, just in the interests of neatness, completeness, avoiding plot holes, etc. :)

Dasquian Belargic
Mar 9th, 2010, 11:47:25 AM
For the most part I think it doesn't matter what happened to a lot of canon people. They just don't factor into what we're doing here, since we have player written characters in the majority of important positions within the galaxy. How and where and why all these people died isn't going to make much of a difference to me or my stories. That being said...

You can assume the following families have reached the end of their gene pool:

House of Tagge ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/House_of_Tagge ) - all dead, except Gallus, son of Ulric Tagge
House of Malreaux ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malreaux_family ) - all dead, except Ersabeth Malreaux (aka Sanya Tagge)
House of Thul ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thul ) - all dead, except Reinhart Thul

And the following individuals presumably never existed, since the Alastor dynasty is our existing Hapan lineage:

Isoldar, Hapan Prince
Ta'a Chume, Hapan Queen
Teneniel Djo, Dathomiri Witch and later Hapan Queen

Stela'shlit'nuruodo
Mar 9th, 2010, 12:08:05 PM
Upon Thrawns return to Chiss space he set up at his little fortress. Many Chiss have flocked to his side but the majority still look at him as a traitor and the senate still considers him an outcast. That being said around the time of Endor the Chiss were passifying the Sri-Ruuk. That is why there was so few at Bakura. Also they were fighting off recon groups of Vong. and the Vagaari were a constant thron in the side of the Chiss in one way or another. I tread lightly around the Thrawn issue because I do not know what Grand Admiral Millard is doing out in the Unknown regions. I know his character is out here near Chiss space but I have no idea what he is doing so I havn't just outright killed off Thrawn and the Empire of the Hand.

The Chiss are torn and on the verge of a civil war of their own soon. so It all works around what Millard is doing out here as to if Thrawn is dead or not.

Park Kraken
Mar 9th, 2010, 12:23:06 PM
Rieekan and Mothma were both aboard Home One during Endor, so they would have died aboard it.

As for the various Grand Admirals of the Empire, most of them were executed when they tried to go rogue, as they historically did during canon EU. I think the only canon EU person we still have around, at least from being mentioned, is Grand Moff Ardus Kaine of the pentastar alignment, although he hasn't gone rogue and it's still known as Oversector Outer.