Lost -- The Final Season [Archive]

Rutabaga

Feb 3rd, 2010, 07:49:06 AM

Absolutely mind-bending. It's as if the producers decided to double down since this is the last season. I was absolutely riveted for the entire 2 hours.

We've had flashbacks, flashforwards, skipping through time...so now I can only assume we've entered the realm of quantum realities for good measure. The plane DID land at LAX, BUT everyone is still stuck where they were. Two realities now that we're going to keep jumping back and forth between during the final season. I'm still left wondering where and how it's all going to end.

Weirdest moment for me in the new reality was Jack giving Locke his card and offering to see if he could help him with his spinal injury :eek.

Oh, Juliet, poor Juliet...I was hoping she would pull through, and she didn't. :cry

I figured Sayid wasn't dead, I didn't think they would lose Juliet AND Sayid in one episode. Had to love his "What happened?" at the end, it kind of summed up the whole episode in 2 words! :lol

I'm going with what seems to be the conventional online wisdom that Fake Locke is The Man In Black that we saw with Jacob in the beginning of last season's finale. So just where is his home, and why does he want to go there? The look on Fake Locke's face when he said, "I want to go home" is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen on this show :eek.

In a nutshell...well worth the 9 month wait.

Can't wait to see what Daniel at http://www.thelostdiary.com has to say about the show :).

Lilaena De'Ville

Feb 3rd, 2010, 11:59:00 AM

LOVED the episode.

I agree with the thought that we are now following two separate realities, one where they land at LAX safely and one where Jughead didn't send them back like they hoped (even though it did send them back to the correct TIME at least). I can't wait to see what they do with that.

The Man in Black being Flocke (Fake Locke) makes sense, but I'm FASCINATED by the admission that he is ALSO Smokey! WHaaaaaa!? Brings another whole layer to Ben's meeting with Smokey/Alex under the temple last season.

And the Temple! So many things there... Hurley was carrying around their names on a list that Jacob gave him. Just like the Others were doing in Season 1 - writing down the names of the 'worthy/good' (a.k.a. the kids and the stewardess that we finally get to see again). Is the resurrected Sayid really Sayid though? If he's Jacob in Sayid's body I'll be so sad.

I think that's it. MAN, that was a good episode.

Rutabaga

Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:46:05 PM

Flocke? I like it, I hearby announce that I will be stealing it at all possible moments :D.

I think you may be onto something with the idea of Jacob being reincarnated in Sayid. We may be heading to a final, almost apocalyptic confrontation between Jacob and The Man In Black.

BTW, I just read that the final episode will be on Sunday, May 23rd, from 9-11pm, preceded by a 1 hour clip show.

Jedi Master Carr

Feb 3rd, 2010, 08:55:49 PM

I don't think Jacob is inside Sayid. I don't think Sayid was ever dead. I base that off what Miles saw he had a strange expression when he looked at Sayid's body

Lilaena De'Ville

Feb 4th, 2010, 01:15:50 AM

Regarding Miles and Hurley's convo: I believe Miles was just surprised that Hurley remarked he could talk to dead people. I don't recall Hurley telling him that before, but its been a while since I watched last season. We had a doctor and the mysterious Temple leader both confirm that Sayid was dead.

Another thing I meant to mention, about Richard, is when Flocke said what he did about Richard having been 'in chains'. Have we found an original Black Rock-ian? Dun dun dunnnn

Jedi Master Carr

Feb 4th, 2010, 03:21:23 PM

Well two other things I don't think Jacob would posses some one also the men in black is a shapeshifter and Jacob has never done that before. Also, I read an interview where the writers said no to that question and said there is something else involved with Sayid not sure what that meant.

Rutabaga

Feb 4th, 2010, 09:07:39 PM

LOL :lol

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Rutabaga

Feb 5th, 2010, 07:47:15 AM

Daniel from The Lost Diary posted this, I thought it was pretty interesting...a side-by-side comparison of Flight 815 from season 1 and the season 6 premiere:

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Lilaena De'Ville

Feb 5th, 2010, 12:50:34 PM

Wow, that side by side video gave me the chillllllllllls.

There were a lot of little things that were different in the flash-sideways. Hurley may be lucky now instead of unlucky (but now Sawyer probably sees him as a mark, so...), Boone is there without Shannon, who stayed in Australia, Desmond is there in the first place, but he can't be on the island because it was underwater. Of course, then he disappeared so maybe he wasn't really there. Or maybe he was.

Jedi Master Carr

Feb 9th, 2010, 09:57:14 PM

Very good episode Got to see Ethan again. Now we are learning about the sickness. I am guessing the man in Black claims him. He has Claire and is trying to get both Sayid and Sawyer in the next episode

Rutabaga

Feb 10th, 2010, 07:38:34 AM

I have to say that I thought last night's episode was a little dull. Maybe it's because I've never been a Kate fan, and I thought some of the stuff with Claire was stretching it a little bit. Maybe I was still riding the high of how good last week's episode was. I don't know for sure.

Seeing Ethan again threw me off a lot. He had a different last night (Goodspeed, not Rom), he was actually a pleasant guy, and above all, he wasn't on the island. So what's up with that???

Favorite new character is the Japanese man...I know he said his name last night but I forgot it. :o

Rutabaga

Feb 10th, 2010, 09:00:35 PM

I really do love The Lost Diary, I'm gonna miss it when the show is over.

3 things I got from The Lost Diary today:

Japanese dude's name is Dogen.

Someone posted a comment that reminded me that Ethan is Horace's son, therefore Goodspeed is his given name. Why he ended up with the last name Rom in the original timeline, I don't know right now, and I don't think it's been explained.

And there's always at least one blog entry by Daniel that makes me laugh out loud, and this week this one was the big winner:

9:42 -- Ethan is able to comfort Claire -- which is easy for the characters on the show, but everyone watching knows he is Mr. Creepy Von Freaksmeout, so that entire scene was waaaay scarier for the viewers.

:lol

Rutabaga

Feb 17th, 2010, 08:02:14 AM

LOVED last night's episode. I always loves me some John Locke. :)

And Flocke revealed info we've been waiting 6 years to hear! But I find myself wondering just how much of it was true, and how much he twisted.... I also couldn't help but think that Sawyer the con man was being conned at the end....

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b167286_lost_redux_ummmdid_we_just_find_out.html?s id=twitterfeed_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=twitterfeed&utm_campaign=twitterfeed_topstories

Jane Starborn

Feb 17th, 2010, 12:21:49 PM

Yeah I'm pretty sure we can't take everything Flocke says for granted. But in the end Sawyer is offered a chance to finally get off the island and he's not going to repeat his past decisions and say no. I can't say I blame him. Juliet dying really messed him up. At least Kate finally realized he's totally over her.

I don't know how much I believe about Jacob looking for a replacement for himself. All the people he brought seem to be fatally flawed. And if he was looking for a replacement why not Richard? He seems like a good guy to me.

Must. Get. MORE. ANSWERS! :shakefist

:D

Oh and its interesting to see the differences in Timeline X. Locke's dad apparently still on good enough terms to be invited to Locke's wedding. Locke still with his girlfriend. Hurley never heard the numbers so he's got good luck and seems to have his life together. Ben is a teacher! This one I don't get - I thought that Ben was still with the Others when Juliet set off Jughead, which would mean that he blew up on the island, but maybe he got off with the other women and children.

I can't wait until we run into Faraday and the redhead (blanked on her name) in Timeline X.

Miranda Tarkin

Feb 17th, 2010, 04:05:04 PM

Charlotte I believe :)

Jedi Master Carr

Feb 17th, 2010, 05:14:57 PM

Well about Ben I don't think the changes we see in the timeline happened because of the nuke. I really believe now the Nuke caused the incident and just sent ones from the present back to own timeline. Something will cause the timeline to change and right now I think Desmond is the key to that. He can time travel so maybe he changes the timeline to save everyone. About the MIB, he is obviously evil and it is becoming more clear there. I think he wants to get back to earth to destroy humanity. To me he represents a combination of Lucifer, Vishnu and Loki who are all tricksters and destroyers. I think that is what Richard was trying to warn Sawyer about before he had to run. I also think now Jacob isn't trying to protect the island but the island is the prison of the MIB. He was using it to protect the world from him.

Rutabaga

Feb 17th, 2010, 08:23:09 PM

Another fun article about all the stuff we learned in last night's episode:

http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/02/17/spoiler-alert-all-about-losts-numbers-game/?xid=email-peopledaily-20100217-20344760

I agree that this is boiling down to something as simple as good vs. evil, with Jacob being good and MIB being evil. Whether it's something as big as God vs. Satan, I don't know. But the idea that the island is MIB's prison is a valid one, I think. But why MIB can't leave on his own now that Jacob is dead, I'm not sure.

There is no question in my mind that MIB is truly the evil one in the scenario. What convinces me of this is Richard's reaction to him...I can never recall Richard being perturbed or scared before. But he is absolutely terrified of MIB.

I'm convinced that the boy that Flocke kept seeing (and who Sawyer could see) is the young version of Jacob, and that seems to be a popular opinion online.

Why Ilana took some of Jacob's ashes has left me guessing. A co-worker thinks Ilana is going to take the ashes to the temple, dump them in the water, and resurrect Jacob.

And I just loved the alternate universe Locke story, especially with the interactions with Hurley, Rose, and Ben. Ben!!! And Locke seemed to take a major liking to Ben right away. Plus he was happy with Helen, and apparently his relationship with his father had been repaired. I just wonder if in this universe Locke's paralysis was still the result of his father pushing him out the window or if it was something different.

And yup, Desmond must have something to do with all of this, although I'm not sure in what capacity. After all, Faraday did consider Desmond to be his Constant :).

Rutabaga

Feb 17th, 2010, 08:29:34 PM

Just had to add this--here is the laugh-out-loud line from this week's Lost Diary:

9: 39 -- "He was a much better man than I'll ever be … and I'm very sorry I murdered him." -- Ben. I just told Ari that when I die, he has to give that eulogy word for word.

:lol :lol :lol

Rutabaga

Feb 24th, 2010, 07:39:43 AM

For me, this season has been a little uneven so far. Last night's episode was okay, did give us some good character insight in some ways, but it was one of those episodes in which not a whole lot happened.

But we ARE left with one big mystery: who is the mother of Jack's son? And is it someone we know?

Jedi Master Carr

Feb 24th, 2010, 09:00:29 AM

Well it could be his life in the other reality or it could be the someone else. I thought the best thing about the episode was crazy Claire. She was downright creepy.

Lilaena De'Ville

Feb 24th, 2010, 01:33:56 PM

Of the many things that happened in last night's episode, one of the significant ones is Claire made a distinction between 'My dad' and Flocke her "friend." dun dun dunnn

And I'd assume that Jack's son's mom in Timeline X is his ex-wife that we knew from before.

Rutabaga

Mar 3rd, 2010, 07:32:20 AM

I thought last night's episode was very strong, really good, and also kind of sad seeing Sayid go completely over to the dark side. The flash sideways were very effective, with the 2 parallel stories being so similar yet so different. Now the fun is going to be what happens after Sayid found Jin tied up in the freezer.

Lilaena De'Ville

Mar 3rd, 2010, 02:49:38 PM

Last night's episode was good, but it seemed short. I'm not sure why? I too wonder what Sayid is going to do with Jin. And how did Jin get there? Is next week a Kwon episode? I hope so!

Also I loved the look on Kate's face there at the end. She didn't know WTF was going on. And Claire is gonna KEEEEL HERRRR! Well, one can hope. ;)

Jedi Master Carr

Mar 3rd, 2010, 05:04:00 PM

I really loved the episode but agree it was sad seeing Sayid go to the Darkside although I wasn't surprised at the outcome. Next week is a Bencentric episode. The previews hint he will die, but I think they are lying. I can't see that weasel Ben dying before the final 4 episodes. I did love Ben's look at Sayid and the way he ran out of there lol.

Lilaena De'Ville

Mar 3rd, 2010, 10:35:51 PM

I know! Ben was like "Oookaaaay..." *backs away slowly then runs* He wasn't gonna mess around. I thought it was great. :D

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Rutabaga

Mar 10th, 2010, 07:41:31 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again...Michael Emerson is a brilliant actor.

Loved last night's episode, and again they used the flash sideways scenes to give some really interesting contrasts to the timeline we've been living in for 5 years.

And all I know is, when Ben said that he was going to Locke "because he's the only one who'll have me," that was probably the most emotional scene we've had so far this season. Maybe the most emotional scene in a while overall. :thumbup

Jedi Master Carr

Mar 10th, 2010, 12:12:03 PM

Yes it was a great episode and shows why Emerson is such a great actor on the show. I also loved the end Widmore is coming to the island, that should make for an interesting development. I am thinking he is siding with the Man in Black

Lilaena De'Ville

Mar 10th, 2010, 02:28:45 PM

SUCH a great episode! So many different things going on. The best part was of course Ben's redemption, or second chance. He's gotten the chance to prove that Jacob was wrong about him. So this Judas isn't going out to hang himself, or at least, not yet. I loved that he chose to do the right thing, and how the X universe storyline mirrored the choice he had to make in the Prime universe.

When he said he was going to Locke because he was the only one who'd have him, it was such an emotional scene. And when Ilana said "I'll have you," I almost cheered. So great! I don't think there's much doubt that MiB is bad and Jacob is good. I suppose they could still pull a switcheroo on us with that, but I think we've got our 'evil' and 'good' camps now.

And there were lots of other reveals/answers/more questions - WIDMORE arriving on a submarine?! Whaat! Awesome. Can't wait. And Richard tells us how Jacob's touch makes it impossible for you to kill yourself. Now we have an explanation for that 'random' car accident that saved Jack from throwing himself off a bridge a few seasons ago. Well, anyway, that scene with Jack and Richard and the stick of dynamite between them was incredible. I loved the tension. Jack is really becoming a man of faith now.

I can't help but want there to be a better conclusion to Locke's story. I hope the X universe gives us something there. He had a great cameo in Ben's story, though. "I'd follow you," lol!

Rutabaga

Mar 10th, 2010, 08:46:44 PM

I'm starting to waver a little bit on the good vs. evil thing, purely because some of the stories we've heard about Jacob (like the deal that brought Dogen to the island) have almost sounded a little MIB-ish. It's not seeming as cut and dried as it was at the beginning, although it's obvious that we're still heading for some huge conflict/battle at the end.

About the dynamite fuse snuffing itself out scene...Daniel at The Lost Diary declared it one of the top 5 scenes in Lost overall and even posted a screen cap of it in his blog :). During that whole scene, I really liked the way they shot Richard, partially in shadow with the weird lighting, I swear he looked like he was about to go totally batshit crazy at any moment.

And I'm also wondering about the implications of what Richard said about Jacob's touch...there HAS to be some follow-up on that for sure.

Oh, and speaking of The Lost Diary...I happened across one post where the person was complaining that he preferred Ben as the sociopathic murderous bastard that he was in the beginning and didn't like what Ben is turning into now. I would argue that one of the great things about what's going on is the idea that people can grow and change. If characters stay completely static and forever unchanging, it can get really boring and unrealistic. So although Ben was totally a cool character as the sociopathic murderous bastard, I'm really really enjoying the journey he's on now. He's showing that even sociopathic murderous bastards can change.

Jedi Master Carr

Mar 11th, 2010, 12:04:40 AM

MIB seems worse than Jacob though. He has killed many people and I still think he wants to leave the island to destroy humanity. I just think Jacob isn't pure good he just does what ever it takes for the greater good.

Lilaena De'Ville

Mar 11th, 2010, 02:56:28 AM

I think we'll find out that Jacob touched Michael at some point. Remember in Meet Kevin Johnson that Michael kept trying to kill himself, and couldn't. And then on the freighter Christian appeared and told him that he could go now.

So this still makes me think that Christian Shepard is an agent of Jacob, not the MiB. Argh! I can't wait until we find out. And I can't wait until Richard's episode!!!

Jedi Master Carr

Mar 11th, 2010, 04:22:25 PM

The Christian thing is confusing, either he works for Jacob or works for the MIB. I don't think he is the MIB anymore.

Rutabaga

Mar 24th, 2010, 06:51:42 AM

OMG, last night's episode was FABULOUS. So unique, with just the bookend scenes at each end and then fully showing Richard's backstory. I have to say that I was quite moved by the scene toward the end with Richard, Hurley, and Isabella. Thank God Hurley and Isabella stopped Richard from going after Flocke.

A couple weeks ago we saw what I considered to be an Emmy-worthy performance from Michael Emerson. Last night it was what I consider to be an Emmy-worthy performance from Nestor Carbonell. Quite a step up for Bat Manuel, eh? :lol

Jedi Master Carr

Mar 24th, 2010, 08:49:04 AM

I loved the episode and I agree with you about Nestor's performance. I also think we now know the end game the island is like a cork and is keeping evil from escape to the rest of the world. The MIB wants to kill all 6 candidates and then leave the island. If he leaves humanity will be destroyed.

Rutabaga

Mar 31st, 2010, 01:28:27 PM

Last night's episode felt a little bit like filler, like the bridge from the first half of the season to the final half. It wasn't a bad episode by any means, it just wasn't a great one.

It was interesting that Sun and Jin weren't married in the flash sideways, and it was fun to see Mikhail show up again. Plus I loved the moment when Widmore gave Sun's camera to Jin. I just wanna see the Sun/Jin reunion that we know is coming.

And Desmond is finally back, yay!

Lilaena De'Ville

Mar 31st, 2010, 03:02:48 PM

Desmond!

As soon as Widmore said "Its not a what" or whatever it was he said I totally called it.

Jedi Master Carr

Mar 31st, 2010, 10:44:44 PM

I am glad Desmond is back, next week's episode should be amazing

Rutabaga

Apr 7th, 2010, 11:22:38 AM

That was pretty mind-blowing stuff last night. :eek

Jedi Master Carr

Apr 7th, 2010, 02:35:47 PM

Yeah it was a great episode, of course Desmond's episodes have always been amazing.

Anna Fernandez

Apr 7th, 2010, 11:19:41 PM

My sister and I were texting and F.R.E.A.K.I.N.G. out through last night's episode! (is LD)

It appears that the X timeline is a SET UP, and Eloise (at least) knows it. She tells Desmond to stop looking for whatever it is he's looking for... in other words - STOP ROCKING THE BOAT! You have a good life, and the thing you've wanted most. Desmond wanted most to be on good terms with Mr. Widmore. Jack wanted most... to have a good father/son relationship. Claire wanted most to raise her son? Not sure on that one. James/Sawyer wanted most to be a good guy. Sayid wanted to find Nadia. Jin and Sun I'm not sure on.

Kate wanted most of all to be falsely accused, so I bet when she told Claire that "I didn't do it" that she's telling the truth, and in the X timeline she didn't do what they're accusing her of. Calling it now!

Everyone has had a 'mirror moment' in the X timeline, where they look into a mirror and sort of do a double take. Desmond sort of had the same thing, except he actually saw into the Prime timeline. Charlie's hand in the water on the glass, Penny... It appears Desmond's abilities have caused him to make a connection between the two timelines. Sort of like how he was jumping back and forth between times in The Constant?

Such a great episode, with a cool reveal and an interesting answer to the X timeline's existence! I can't wait for Daniel WIDMORE to tell us more.

Jedi Master Carr

Apr 15th, 2010, 09:33:58 AM

Some shocks in the last episode
It was cool to see Libby and Michael again. We now know what the Whispers are and it makes a lot of sense. The first big shock was Illayna getting blown up. She sure had a short part considering how she was built up. Then the two surprises with Desmond, getting thrown down the well in one timeline and then running Locke down in the other. Not sure yet what that was about unless he was trying to give him a near death experience.

Rutabaga

Apr 15th, 2010, 09:09:33 PM

I don't startle easily, but when Ilana went boom, I jumped in my chair. I figured something like that was going to happen anyways, but I didn't expect it at that exact moment. It's also really intriguing to see how the timelines are bleeding together. I knew right away when Flocke showed Desmond the well that he was going to throw Desmond down the well, but I'm really stumped right now as to why Desmond in the alternate timeline mowed Locke down. I'm curious to see what that was all about.

I also totally, totally dug the Willy Wonka music being used in the promo for next week's episode, that was a really weird and fun surprise. :lol

Rutabaga

Apr 21st, 2010, 06:50:05 AM

Jedi Master Carr

Apr 21st, 2010, 11:15:04 AM

Sun and Jin back together again...finally! :hug

But as soon as Jin said he promised they'd never be separated again, I cringed and thought, Oh crap, he's a dead man. :ohno

I have no doubt that Sayid let Desmond out of the well. Is this truly the first step toward his redemption? Like Anakin? :lol

It was fun watching how the characters are converging in the alternate timeline. And some of the online speculation about Desmond hitting Locke proved to be true, that he hit Locke to bring him together with Jack. And of course Jack will make him walk again. It was just weird seeing Sun scream about Locke in the alternate universe. Must've been some of the alternate timelines bleeding together.

And is this shaping up to be the ultimate Jack vs. Locke confrontation, although it isn't really Locke?

I agree I loved the Jin/Sun reunion, and I am too worried about them in the next few episodes. I don't think Sayid killed Desmond either, first it is a step towards his redemption. Also, I just can't see them bring back Desmond and then killing him off. The island isn't done with him yet. They have been setting up a Jack vs Locke fight from about season 3. Of course you are right that isn't Locke. I do find it ironic that Jack has become the man of faith.

Lilaena De'Ville

Apr 21st, 2010, 06:03:23 PM

Great episode. I loved all the connections in the sideways timeline this week.

No episode next week! I shall content myself by watching a Jack-splosion instead.

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Rutabaga

Apr 21st, 2010, 07:37:07 PM

Great episode. I loved all the connections in the sideways timeline this week.

No episode next week! I shall content myself by watching a Jack-splosion instead.

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LOL, that was great. Jack really went flying, dude. :lol

I didn't realize there was no new episode next week. Bummer.

And as much as I can't stand Kate, I really did like the scene where she talked Claire into getting on the boat.

Rutabaga

May 4th, 2010, 11:10:49 PM

Am I the only one who was crying like a baby during the last few minutes of this episode? :cry :cry :cry

The show really is coming to an end. I can really feel it now....

Jack has so many deaths on his conscience now....

Flocke must die.

What a devastating episode. :cry

Jedi Master Carr

May 5th, 2010, 12:44:05 AM

Well
Sawyer was at fault for not listening to Jack, of course MIB is to blame for their deaths. I was satisfied with Sayid's death since he sacrificed himself and glad to know that Desmond is still alive. Jin and Sun's last moments were extremely depressing. This episode proves that MIB is pure evil. Next week looks great, we might get some big answers I believe.

Lilaena De'Ville

May 5th, 2010, 03:46:46 PM

I wasn't crying I was yelling at my husband because he was yelling at the show for being stupid and so those final moments were totally ruined for me.

Still, :cry

Rutabaga

May 5th, 2010, 07:43:59 PM

Much to my surprise, Daniel at The Lost Diary hated last night's episode. Hated it so much he refuses to grade it. He also refused to recap Sun and Jin's final scene. His logic behind this decision was that he said he felt absolutely nothing, he was not moved by it, it meant nothing because they're still alive in the flash sideways universe. :\

In the comments section, lots of people said what I felt...yes, there is a Sun and a Jin in the flash sideways universe, but they are not OUR Sun and Jin. I have zero emotional investment in the sideways Sun and Jin. They aren't the same people. They didn't undergo the same journey that OUR Sun and Jin went through in the last six seasons. They will never replace OUR Sun and Jin. So that's why I was so emotional as they died last night. They are gone. They cannot be replaced by dopplegangers.

I had predicted a couple of weeks ago that as soon as Jin said they would never be separated again, I figured he was a dead man. I never imagined that we would lose BOTH of them. :cry

Sun and Jin were 2 of my favorites characters from the beginning. Sayid was also a favorite. I was glad to see the old Sayid making a comeback over the last couple of episodes, and he did redeem himself by running away with the bomb. He was able to die a somewhat noble death.

Lost in all this is that Lapidus apparently died as well, since he got clocked pretty hard by the exploding door. So who could fly the plane now? Unless Locke's story about learning how to fly in the flash sideways universe might have something to do with that.

Who else will die? I have no doubt that others will die before this is all over.

A co-worker and I have the same idea about what the final scene in the final episode might be...Jack is obviously the new Jacob, and he may not succeed in killing Flocke/MIB. But everyone who's still alive will somehow get off the island. And in the end, Jack and Flocke will be sitting on the beach talking about how much they hate each other and how much they want to kill each other. In the end, the struggle will be eternal.

BTW, it was announced today that the final episode, airing on May 23rd, will be two and a half hours long, running from 9-11: 30. Be prepared! ;)

Jedi Master Carr

May 6th, 2010, 12:45:41 AM

Rutabaga

May 12th, 2010, 06:40:41 AM

Um...that was NOT what I expected last night. It was valuable to get the backstory on Jacob and MIB, plus we did get a couple of mysteries dating back to the very beginning cleared up, but...I was pretty bored with the episode. :\

Jedi Master Carr

May 12th, 2010, 11:43:42 AM

I had a feeling this episode was going to be a love/hate it one. I enjoyed it but I like backstory. I did like they explained some of the mysteries of the island, although they left some things open like the light in the cave that created the smoke monster. I think they will reveal the truth behind that in the series finale I thought it revealed some important information and was necessary to understand the last three hours.

Lilaena De'Ville

May 12th, 2010, 06:57:57 PM

I loved it. I thought it was great, and it explained some long term mysteries.

I don't think they'll explain the light, Carr, I think they already did: it is a life force, perhaps the life force of the world ( i have to rewatch to see exactly what the Woman said about it to Jacob). I doubt we'll get anything more than that. It is mystical/a wizard did it.

Rutabaga

May 15th, 2010, 08:34:36 PM

So George Lucas sent a letter to Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, in which he admits something we all knew for years. :lol

http://livefeed.hollywoodreporter.com/2010/05/george-lucas-lost.html

Rutabaga

May 16th, 2010, 11:50:15 AM

Found this link via Damon Lindelof at Twitter, even he was floored by it. I must be honest, for a fan-made trailer, this very effectively gave me goosebumps and brought a tear to my eye. I will truly, truly miss this show when it's gone.

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Rutabaga

May 19th, 2010, 07:37:28 AM

So we're all set up for the final episode.

A couple of thoughts on last night's episode:

I'm kind of disappointed that Ben has reverted to his sociopathic mode. I'm not sure at this point if there's something more going on or what, but taking out Widmore so calmly was Old Ben, not New Ben. Maybe Old Ben has always been there but just lurking in the background waiting until just the right moment to reappear. I also enjoyed seeing the hint of a romance with Rousseau in the flashsideways universe :love.

Richard sure went fast, didn't he? I'm presuming he's dead. It really was quick, but in retrospect it made sense...he thought he was so important to Flocke's plans, but Flocke flicked him aside like a bug.

No surprise at all about Jack stepping up to the plate with Jacob, but I don't think we were supposed to be surprised at all at this point. And flashsideways Desmond is almost being Jacob-like with gathering people together. I also think it was no coincidence that in last week's episode, MIB never got a name and Jacob always referred to him as "Brother." I do think that the speculation is true that what we're moving toward is not a final scene featuring Jack and Flocke stuck in eternal battle. I think Flocke will be defeated, and it will end up being Jack and Desmond stuck in the eternal battle.

Sunday night will be very bittersweet. I will miss this show and these characters immensely.

Jedi Master Carr

May 19th, 2010, 10:24:10 AM

I am not sure if Richard is dead. I think he might still be alive. Ben might also be conning MIB. He did kill Widmore the moment before he told MIB everything about Desmond. I think that decision to use Desmond will be MIB's undoing. Not sure about the alt, I think Desmond is trying to get everyone together so they can remember the island. I guess we shall see where that is going on Sunday

Lilaena De'Ville

May 19th, 2010, 12:05:39 PM

I dont' think Ben was calm, I think he was angry. He'd just been reminded of Alex's death by Miles and Richard, and then there was Widmore, responsible for her death. Remember his vow to kill Penny? Ben ultimately couldn't do it, but that doesn't mean he didn't still want Widmore to know that pain.

I was rooting for his redemption, but it appears that Ben is now unredeemed, at least in the Island timeline. Sideways, it appears he's on the right track.

Loved this episode. A lot of people didn't care for the heavy mythology episode last week, but we really needed it in order to set up what happened this week. And I liked it, anyway.

Lilaena De'Ville

May 19th, 2010, 12:39:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iggE4ImYwyc

Great video must watch! :cry

Rutabaga

May 20th, 2010, 07:13:10 AM

Lilaena De'Ville

May 20th, 2010, 05:29:14 PM

Found this link via Damon Lindelof at Twitter, even he was floored by it. I must be honest, for a fan-made trailer, this very effectively gave me goosebumps and brought a tear to my eye. I will truly, truly miss this show when it's gone.

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I love this. What is that music? Its incredible and it sounds so familiar.

fake edit: Song - Shooting Star - Stardust. (I should read descriptions)

Rutabaga

May 21st, 2010, 01:35:42 PM

Michael Emerson puts a creepy spin on ordinary everyday comments :lol :lol :lol

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Lilaena De'Ville

May 21st, 2010, 01:57:33 PM

Ahhhhhhahahahaha that's great!

Miranda Tarkin

May 23rd, 2010, 04:00:44 AM

It's ... tonight :) :(

Rutabaga

May 23rd, 2010, 06:26:39 AM

I'm in mourning already, I swear. :(

My computer will be shut off and I won't be touching the internet starting at 6:00pm California time in order to avoid spoilage. I'm also prepared to possibly not like how it ends...this is going to be one of those times when I have no doubt that there will be great controversy about this final episode. When people hold something so creatively dear and have their own ideas about how the story should go, it's inevitable that there will be some highly satisfied people tonight along with some heavily pissed-off people at the same time. It's the nature of the beast.

I watched about an hour of the "enhanced" pilot when it was rebroadcast last night. It was fun watching it knowing what we know now. :cool

Oh, and going back to the Michael Emerson video, I still find it very amusing that he's married to Carrie Preston, who plays Arlene on True Blood. Now there are two completely diametrically opposed characters! :lol

Lilaena De'Ville

May 23rd, 2010, 01:59:16 PM

I didn't know they were married! Thats a little hilarious. :)

I think i'll like how it ends. :D

Since it has to end. I'm a bit miffed that I couldn't get anyone to come over for a viewing party, but I supposed that's what we get for having a small TV.

Rutabaga

May 23rd, 2010, 03:32:35 PM

I know, I'd love to have a viewing party too. But it's just going to be me and the cats :). I also won't be able to gab with co-workers about it tomorrow, since I've been on vacation since Wednesday and won't be back until June 1st. But that's okay, we can play catch-up next week. I'm sure they'll all be zombies tomorrow after staying up so late O_o.

No matter what happens, I know I'll be crying buckets at the end when it fades to black. Like I said, I'm going to miss this show and these characters tremendously.

I bought my first HD TV on Wednesday and was hoping to have it up and running in time for tonight, but it was not to be. The Geek Squad isn't coming out until Tuesday. C'est la vie.

I already asked my father to please not call me between 9 and 11: 30 tonight unless a meteor is about to hit the earth :lol.

Jedi Master Carr

May 23rd, 2010, 05:58:13 PM

I am watching the retrospective right now. It is sad to think it will be over tonight, but it has been a blast.

Rutabaga

May 23rd, 2010, 08:33:50 PM

Watching the retrospective now...I LOVE the last transmissions from fans. They're awesome. :)

Jedi Master Carr

May 23rd, 2010, 10:11:35 PM

Awesome finale, I will wait to talk more about it once everybody else sees it.

Rutabaga

May 24th, 2010, 12:47:20 AM

My cat Lily was sleeping on my lap and got up to look at me with great concern over the weird noises I was making. It was just me bawling like a damn baby, especially at the very final image of the episode. :cry

Not what I expected, and I was highly annoyed by all the commercials. But the last half hour was great and drove to a satisfying and emotional conclusion. I actually said "goodbye" out loud as the final credits rolled.

I don't think I'm going to be able to go to sleep right away.

Rutabaga

May 24th, 2010, 07:01:38 AM

Did get a few hours of sleep, finally. I'm glad I don't have to go to work and try to function and make important decisions. :)

Did anybody else watch Jimmy Kimmel's show? It was pretty fun, especially the 3 "alternate endings." And the moment when the young Jacob was standing in the bushes behind Kimmel was hilarious.

The first guest was Matthew Fox, and Kimmel said something I think he was totally right about. He showed the moments from the season premiere, when the plane was shaking and then stopped, the moment when we knew the flight was going to make it to LA and not crash on the island. He then said that because the sideways universe ended up being about Jack accepting his death and moving on, he thought that the moment when Rose said, "It's okay to let go" was the moment of Jack's death. I agree with that, it makes total sense.

I've done an extremely cursory look at reactions on the internet, and of course they're mixed. I think a little more on the positive side than the negative side. Yes, it was metaphysical, mind-bending, sentimental at times, and we didn't get answers to all the mysteries (which we were warned about weeks ago) but this show accomplished something that hardly any other TV show accomplishes in this day and age--it made us THINK. And I am very grateful for that. :)

Rutabaga

May 24th, 2010, 08:42:34 AM

The final entry in The Lost Diary:

http://thelostdiary.com/blog1/2010/05/the_end.html

Lilaena De'Ville

May 24th, 2010, 10:26:03 AM

I loved it. I cried too, a lot. I think my hubby might have gotten misty-eyed as well, but we'll never know for sure. ;)

I thought it was a great ending, and, as we know, IT'S ABOUT THE CHARACTERS. It was a fitting end to the show.

Now its time to rewatch the show from the beginning!

Figrin D'an

May 24th, 2010, 11:58:36 AM

After hearing about how the series ended, I'm glad I gave up on it several seasons ago. I feared then that it was just going to be another deus ex machina type conclusion, and it sounds like that's pretty much what it was. Oh well. It had potential to be something different early on. The only question I have is if the writers had always intended it to be that way, or if it just evolved/devolved into something so unwieldy and complex that they simply could not write their way out of it any other manner.

Between this show and 24 ending, a lot of addicts are going to need to find a new fix.

Rutabaga

May 24th, 2010, 12:33:09 PM

I don't know if I'd necessarily call it a deus ex machina ending myself. I also know that this show just wasn't everyone's cup of tea...yes, it became very complex and metaphysical, and that's one of the things I enjoyed about it. I think that the people who were most upset by the episode were the people who wanted every single question and mystery explained and were pissed that that simply didn't happen. The producers had already warned us that we would not get all the answers so I was prepared for that. And I don't mind that we were left with certain things hanging with no final explanation, to me that just adds to the aura and mystique of the show. I'm okay with that :).

The symmetry of the storytelling with the opening shot of the pilot being bookended with the closing shot of the finale was just beautiful as far as I was concerned. The producers claim that they had always planned for that to be the final shot...I don't know if it's true, but that doesn't matter to me in the long run. What was left for me was the touching and beautiful sadness of it all. I kid you not, I'm still tearing up over it today. And Jack was never one of my favorite characters, although I had really grown to like him over the last few episodes.

I tweeted at Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse this morning, thanking them for making me think, which is something that is not all that common in television programming nowadays. O_o

EDIT: It seems as if a lot of people are misinterpreting something and presuming that the island itself was purgatory, as many people had speculated all along. That's not how I interpreted it, and it was something that was discussed on Jimmy's Kimmel show afterwards. The island and what happened on it was real...it was the sideways world that was, in a sense, purgatory as the characters were all leading to the moment of convincing Jack to let go.

Lilaena De'Ville

May 24th, 2010, 03:53:24 PM

Oh man do my sisters HATE the ending of Lost! I mean, I get it, they want answers to those nagging Dharma questions, and dangling red herrings, and I do too.

I'm just satisfied with what we got.

Jedi Master Carr

May 24th, 2010, 05:18:26 PM

I am satisfied with the lack of answers about most things. It isn't like they would have satisfied everyone about the island, it could have ended up with how Lucas tried to explain the Force.

Rutabaga

May 24th, 2010, 05:39:43 PM

I am satisfied with the lack of answers about most things. It isn't like they would have satisfied everyone about the island, it could have ended up with how Lucas tried to explain the Force.

The Lost version of midichlorians? NNNNNnnnnooooo! :eek :lol :eek

BTW, although I was highly irritated by the number of commercial breaks (I swear we were lucky to go 6-8 minutes between blocks of ads), I have to give props to Target for the 3 commercials that were done specifically for this finale. Without a doubt the best one was for the computer keyboard. :lol :lol :lol

PS...there had better be Emmy noms galore for the show, especially for Matthew Fox, Terry O'Quinn, and Michael Emerson. I even think Jorge Garcia could get a nod for this season.

Jedi Master Carr

May 24th, 2010, 05:43:45 PM

I think the show has several chances at emmys. I think it has a great chance at best drama. I liked the smoke detector add that was hilarious. I enjoyed the Jimmy Kimmel alt endings, especially the one with Bob Newhart lol. They should have done one poking fun of St. Elsewhere since that had the worse series ending ever. I haven't talked much about the finale yet, but I was satisfied with the end The seen in the church was sad and happy at the same time, I get the Bittersweet ending I heard rumors about. I also saw the endings kind of similar to Lord of the Rings where all the characters basically died (going over the ocean symbolized death and in the appendix every major character either died or went across the sea. Overall, thought it was great one of the best series finale I have seen in a long time.

Rutabaga

May 24th, 2010, 06:00:56 PM

Doc Jensen at Entertainment Weekly has posted part one of his reaction:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20387946,00.html

I find it comforting to know that he's having difficulty recalling the final minutes of the show without becoming emotional. It will be a long, long time before I can recall Jack's final moments with Vincent snuggled up beside him without becoming choked up.

There's one other little point that some of the detractors are missing that I think was so vital to the success of the finale. There was so much made throughout 6 seasons the whole Man of Faith vs. Man of Science dichotomy. Jack was always the Man of Science throughout most of the series. Only in the final season did he make the transition to Man of Faith. His faith did ultimately result in his death, but he saved the island, his friends, and arguably the whole world. Maybe I'm overthinking things, but I find that to be something a little profound. And with more depth than the average show.

I'm old enough that I remember St. Elsewhere...I used to watch it with my father, and we both remember watching that final episode together. To this day he still complains about how disappointed he was by how it ended.

Oh, and did you watch Kimmel to the end, where they did the "where are they now?" segment? Oh, dear God, some of those were hilarious. :lol

Darth Turbogeek

May 24th, 2010, 07:11:14 PM

Lost - started with a plane crash, ended in a train wreck

Captain Untouchable

May 25th, 2010, 06:00:46 AM

For me, one of the writers from Scifi Wire summed it up pretty well:

It was an emotional conclusion, a literal and figurative goodbye funeral for your favorite show, a finale that eased you into the passing of a dear friend. And better still, it left you with the promise that everything and everyone you loved on the show would be okay.

Yeah, it didn't provide a lot of the answers that people were hoping for. And while there was drama, the ad breaks and the shifting to the flash-sideways plot broke that up too much for it to really grip me. But what it did do was provide a satisfying end to the series.

Rutabaga

May 25th, 2010, 06:39:25 PM

The second half of Doc Jensen's analysis of the series finale at EW:

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20313460_20388269,00.html

Very, very detailed and intricate analysis that I agree with a lot. :thumbup

Rutabaga

Jun 3rd, 2010, 07:37:18 PM