Quick weaponry question.

[Akrabbim]

I'm not sure if any of you remember me, but I used to play Akrabbim Melchizan on here a ways back... Illusion Master and all that jazz. Anyway, I had a question about weaponry. I'm about to hop back into a thread, and I'm wanting to make sure that the weapons I have are still kosher. I RPed getting them way back, and no one had a problem with them then. I just wanna make sure nothing's changed.

I had two katanas, a dagger, and about 5 shuriken that were all created via Sith Alchemy. Since I'm a Jedi, the normal bonuses of those type of weapons wouldn't work for me. Basically, they'd just be weapons that'd stand up to a lightsaber and never need sharpening and wouldn't break, but other than that would be normal. Actually, I don't think the shuriken were originally made of that material, but I'd like to kinda retcon that in. Would that be ok?

[Sanis Prent]

I think as long as they have some understandable restrictions and you can't go around stabbing AT-AT's in the face with 'em, I think it's completely reasonable. I remember you put a lot of work into acquiring them, which most people don't bother doing with their own schwag.

EDIT: Also welcome back you damned disappearing jerk. STAY.

[Droo]

I can't imagine there being any problem with it. You clearly have weighed the pros and cons in favour of having weaponry that is fair, and with an interesting backstory. And welcome back, mate.

[Akrabbim]

Awww, man... that was gonna be the ONE thing that my swords did... they had a +28 to AT-AT face-stabbing. Oh well, I guess I can be content without that bonus... :-(

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Well, just as long as the AT-AT isn't pregnant.

[Hera]

Hello Whitey :wave

As I recall, you always were one of the 'common sense' fellows when it came to stuffs.

Until of course, I beat you senseless that time..

[Sanis Prent]

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[Akrabbim]

Howdy everybody. :) And Hera, if I recall, you were drugged out cold at the end of that fight... :)

[Tear]

Howdy everybody. :) And Hera, if I recall, you were drugged out cold at the end of that fight... :)


Oooo double smiley faced. There is no come back for that.

[Ilias Nytrau]

H'lo thar! Welcome back. :)

Hrm. So if they stand up to lightsabers, are they made of some composite like cortosis weave? That would make sense.

[Akrabbim]

Not quite... I read something a while back that stated that Sith were able to do... something... to metal that would make it unbreakable, even against lightsabers. It would also gain the ability to cut like a saber when the Dark Side was channeled through it. Since I'm a Jedi, I won't be using those features of it. It's considered a lost art, but I found them in an old, abandoned temple. Which, of course, are just lying scattered about. :)

[Gwenc'hlan Le Scouëzec]

What you're looking for is beskar. Mandalorian iron. Withstands lightsabers, up to a certain degree. Palpy had those special Jedi prison ships made out of it... from what I know it's not the metal in itself that makes it so strong, but something in the smithing process... can only be created by Mandalorian weapon smiths.... and since it's been around for a while and the Mandos worked together with the Sith from time to time, it might easily be explained that your character has them.

[Captain Untouchable]

I guess it depends on how much weight you put behind The Old Republic games in terms of mechanics, rather than specific plot. In that, pretty much every kind of standard vibroblade is capable of standing up against a lightsaber. I guess one could argue that, with so many Sith around, it was necessary to mix in beskar (or something) back then, but now they rarely bother because there haven't been any "evil" lightsaber users for ages...

Are there any novels or anything that go along with the KOTOR games? If so, I may have to hunt them out, and see if they've mixed in any vibroblade-on-lightsaber duels or not. :\

Cortosis probably wouldn't fit the bill though; doesn't that make lightsabers turn off or something?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I know how much work went into RPing out Ak's getting his weapons, and you've balanced the pros with the cons very well as Droo said before. I'm fine with them.

[Droo]

What you're looking for is beskar. Mandalorian iron.

To be honest, I think he's already established what he's using: swords made of metal altered by Sith alchemists. If he wanted beskar, the likelihood is it would change the backstory as to how his character acquired them, plus it sounds nowhere near as exotic.

And as for Captain's words about vibroblades, it was similar in Star Wars Galaxies and it made me cringe, melee classes going toe-to-toe with Jedi using standard weapons like vibroknucklers and gaffi sticks.

[Captain Untouchable]

What you're looking for is beskar. Mandalorian iron.

To be honest, I think he's already established what he's using: swords made of metal altered by Sith alchemists. If he wanted beskar, the likelihood is it would change the backstory as to how his character acquired them, plus it sounds nowhere near as exotic.

And as for Captain's words about vibroblades, it was similar in Star Wars Galaxies and it made me cringe, melee classes going toe-to-toe with Jedi using standard weapons like vibroknucklers and gaffi sticks.

Aye... I understand the reasons for it, but still. Cringeworthy. >_<

Then again a ship full of officers conveniently carrying swords around was a bit tenuous as a plot point anyway. |I

If it's already been roleplayed out in an awesome way previously, then something vague with the word "Sith" and "alchemy" in sounds like as good an excuse as any!

Any chance of finding the relevant RPing thread in ye olde archives somewhere, just out of idle curiosity?

[Dasquian]

It will be buried on ClassicFans somewhere, since I don't believe the Akmeister has been active since then.

[Akasha Khan]

Yes, that's compromise of game mechanics and nothing more - just like how, in Civilization, you can eventually kill a nuclear submarine with hunting spears.

[Droo]

I see nothing wrong with that. Spears put holes in submarine. Submarine sinks. Perfectly reasonable!

[Captain Untouchable]

Did anyone else think that the graphic for a Settler - a covered wagon - in the original Civilization looked more like a guy with a hat and glasses? Or was that just me?

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I don't have a problem with your weapons, Ak.

As a side note to the discussion though, cortosis is a brittle mineral that causes lightsabers to shut off. It has been used on these boards in the past woven into cloaks to make them 'lightsaber proof' - but this would be extremely costly as cortosis is rare and pricey. :) iirc.

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

I'm pretty sure Sanis has one or two cortosis shells, but if a bullet costs you a month's pay, you'd be reluctant to use that shit too.

[Carré Inirial]

There's always phrik alloy.

[Akrabbim]

What is that, exactly?

And as an aside, I was pretty sure you said "Pink Alloy" when I first read it.

[Ilias Nytrau]

What's that? Here (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phrik).

It's rare and expensive. ;)

[Tear]

On the wiki page for Sith (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Sword)weapons there are also two links to Phrik (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phrik_alloy)Alloy and Cortosis (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Cortosis)as well for all your lightsaber resisting needs.

[Akrabbim]

Hmm... I'd be fine with Phrik being used in the creation of these.

[Hera]

Howdy everybody. :) And Hera, if I recall, you were drugged out cold at the end of that fight... :)


Oooo double smiley faced. There is no come back for that.

I dont remember that part of it at all :grumble
Im sure you're wrong:p

However, it seems I get drugged alot..

*I already weighed in on the weapons dealy.

[Tear]

Hmm... I'd be fine with Phrik being used in the creation of these.

I say stick with your original idea. ;) Several former mods have given it the okie dokie. No need to change it.

[Akrabbim]

I dont remember that part of it at all :grumble
Im sure you're wrong:p

However, it seems I get drugged alot..

*I already weighed in on the weapons dealy.

I think that just proves my point... they were ultra-no-remembery-drugs! Which should also keep you from remembering that you nearly choked me to death just before you succumbed. So hah!

...

Crap.



Hmm... I'd be fine with Phrik being used in the creation of these.

I say stick with your original idea. ;) Several former mods have given it the okie dokie. No need to change it.

Sounds good. :) Would explain why they're black, too. Black being the color of EEEVVVILLL and all...

[Tear]

So I was scootin around on wookiepedia after reading a few articles of the new Clone wars animated show and I can across the article on the new weapon the Death watch leader uses.

The "Dark saber." (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darksaber_%28lightsaber%29) In that article theres a bit in the 'behind the scenes info' that says:


Originally intended to be a vibroblade (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vibroblade), George Lucas (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/George_Lucas) dictated that a lightsaber could not be blocked by a non-lightsaber, despite several canonical materials capable of doing just that. With that in mind, the show's crew conceived of an ancient precursor to the lightsaber which they named the Darksaber. Notably, this is also the first canonically black-bladed lightsaber.

I thought that was interesting. George basically saying nay to Cortosis, Phrik, Sith weapons, etc.

Not that I'm saying this should have any bearing on our universe or even this thread. I actually say we do the opposite and ignore the above.:lol I just thought it was interesting to finally learn what George had to say about this topic and this thread seemed like the most prudent place to post it.

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

The dude's an idiot and is going 180 on EU shit he supposedly rubber-stamped years ago and is p. much just trying to retcon to drum up sales now.

I'm pretty sure we're all fully vested in the universe to the point that we can pick and choose from his bullshit (ie, fuck shit like the vong)