College Football Thread

[CMJ]

For the REAL football. ;)

Big first weekend of the season kicked off last night. Boise State beat oregon is the game with the most national attention.

But in the game of the night NT beat Ball State ---- ONE AND OH BABY!!!!

:D

[Jedi Master Carr]

LOL not going there. South Carolina also beat NC State not sure if that means anything. One funny thing Clemson plays Middle Tennessee State, the school I am currently at, tomorrow night in Death Valley. I don't think that game will even be close.

[CMJ]

You're at MTSU now? We're conference rivals!

[Jedi Master Carr]

You're at MTSU now? We're conference rivals!

Yep been going there for the last year. I know MTSU won last year. NT will be looking for their revenge I imagine :p

[CMJ]

I think we still lead the alltime series 5-3. ;)

[Jedi Master Carr]

I think we still lead the alltime series 5-3. ;)

heh that makes sense, since NT had those really good years not long ago.

[Jedi Master Carr]

One major upset today in Oklahoma getting beat by BYU in part because of their crappy offensive line. Bradford got hurt which probably also cost them any chance to win. Alabama looked very good, and really the game was never that close. They dominated Virginia Tech most of the game, if it wasn't for some problems with special teams and mental mistakes they would have won 40 something to 10. I had mixed emotions with Clemson's win. I was glad they won but felt bad for my current school. MTSU didn't embarrass themselves at least and showed some promise for their season.

[CMJ]

I'm not sure BYU beating OU was THAT big of an upset. The MWC has shown the last few years that they're legit. Not to mention BYU was in the Top 25.

Virginia Tech wins games ugly like that often tho. Good win by Bama, the Hokies definitely coulda stolen that game.

Oklahoma State beat Georgia is the other marquee game of the day. OSU looks really, really good IMHO.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Well the game was in OU and they were ranked 3rd I say it was a big upset, although without Bradford they didn't stand much of a chance.

[CMJ]

It was actually a nuetral site game(though with way more Sooner fans). I'm not saying it wasn't an upset, it was, but I personally don't think it was a massive one.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I thought it was at OU although it was close to where they play. I didn't watch much of the game actually I was watching Clemson and then the Alabama game.

[CMJ]

It was at the new Dallas Cowboy stadium in Arlington.

[Figrin D'an]

BYU was probably a little underrated coming into that game, so props to them for finding a way to win a game in a hostile environment against a more talented foe.

Oklahoma has a few weeks of easier opponents that they should be able to beat handily without Bradford, but I think they pretty much blew a national title shot by losing on Saturday. They have to run the table now to have a chance, and with Texas being even better than last year and Oklahoma State looking pretty good, I have my doubts that will happen.


Let's say BYU and Boise State both go undefeated this year (BYU has some tough games yet, but Boise State's remaining schedule is pretty manageable). Does the BCS find room for both of them?

[CMJ]

It would depend on what happens elsewhere.

Miami/FSU just played one WHALE of a game.

[CMJ]

Great game between Georgia Tech and Clemson. Jackets get a huge 24 point lead, Clemson fights all the way back to actually go ahead, and then Tech manages to win with under 2 minutes to go.

[CMJ]

Best games of the day were the USC/Ohio State classic, the Houston upset of Oklahoma State, and Michigan nipping Notre Dame at the wire.

[Charley]

We're about a month away from the UT game, but I don't care!

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[CMJ]

Gotta get past the MEAN GREEN first Charley. We're coming for ya! ;)

(Alabama 47 - North Texas 9 is my prediction)

[Dragon]

USC just went down to Washington, 16-13.

[Jedi Master Carr]

USC just went down to Washington, 16-13.

Huge upset there.

[Jedi Master Carr]

My school MTSU beat Maryland, which I would say was there biggest road win in program history. They play at North Texas next that should be interesting :)

[CMJ]

I thought you guys beat the Terps in Maryland last year too? Or was that in Murphresboro? I know yall have beaten Memphis & Vandy on the road in the past, but Maryland probably is bigger.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I thought you guys beat the Terps in Maryland last year too? Or was that in Murphresboro? I know yall have beaten Memphis & Vandy on the road in the past, but Maryland probably is bigger.

Yeah that game was in Murfreesboro, they must have Maryland's number. They get another big team in a few weeks. Mississippi State comes into Murfreesboro then.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

USC just went down to Washington, 16-13.

And the NW is rocking out. :lol

I suppose it would be 'perfect' to some if the Beavers had won their game as well, but I'm glad they lost. ;) Ducks somehow managed to win, despite horribleness at the quarterback position. :uhoh

Best part: Owen yelling "Go, go!" at the screen with his dad whenever a long run would break out. :D

[Sanis Prent]

Gotta get past the MEAN GREEN first Charley. We're coming for ya! ;)

(Alabama 47 - North Texas 9 is my prediction)

Yay we beat your spread yay!

[CMJ]

Pretty crazy day today. Alot of big teams go down(Cal being the most shocking...not that that they lost, but the total destruction), tho it's hard to classify any of these rankings as having alot of validity.

I think the rankings that come out tomorrow will really be the first ones that have any sort of meaning. We've seen just about everyone play a big test at this point, so we are starting to get a handle on who is good.

[Charley]

Tebow got JAK'DUP

[Jedi Master Carr]

It also seems Miami wasn't the team to beat by Va Tech.

[Charley]

I knew that one from the outset. I have no idea why people thought Miami would be able to keep up with VT.

[Figrin D'an]

Pre-season polls need to be eliminated. There shouldn't be any polls until the first BCS rankings come out in mid-October, IMO. Using two polls, one done by coaches who barely pay attention to anyone besides their team and their next opponent, the other done by a cross section of the sports media of whom maybe only 1/4 actually pay attention and watch all the games, to decide not only who gets into a championship game, but to rank teams before they even get on the field in August, is just dumb.


I still don't think we have a good feel for who is for real or not. Honestly, the two teams I've been most impressed with so far this season are Alabama and Cincinnati. Houston is a nice story so far, Boise State could run the table again, and Florida and Texas are about where everyone expected them to be record-wise.

It's hard for me to be very into college football this season. It's been brutal to be a Purdue fan this year. At least basketball season isn't that far off.

[General Dan]

I still can't believe there are numerous undefeated BCS conference teams that are essentially out in the cold with four weeks down in the season so far. That is, well, insanity.

[CMJ]

Ranked teams that go down today.


(8) Oklahoma
(12) Houston
(18) Georgia
(22) Michigan
(24) California


Unbeatens

Alabama 2-0 5-0
Auburn 2-0 5-0
Boise State 1-0 5-0
Cincinnati 1-0 5-0
Florida 2-0 4-0
Iowa 1-0 5-0
Kansas 0-0 4-0
LSU 3-0 5-0
Missouri 0-0 4-0
South Florida 1-0 5-0
Texas 1-0 4-0
TCU 0-0 4-0
Wisconsin 2-0 5-0

[CMJ]

Crazy week. Some great, tense games.

Top 25's to lose.

(4) Virginia Tech
(7) Ohio State
(15) Nebraska
(17) Kansas
(20) Oklahoma
(21) South Florida
(22) South Carolina
(25) Notre Dame

[General Dan]

Posting this again, because I HATE THEM

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Salt the earth of Knoxville and slay the first born.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Wild game with Bama beating Tennessee with two blocked FGs. I have to say it was a lot of fun watching it with it an Alabama and Tennessee fan :p
In other games, Clemson pulled a big upset in beating Miami. Puts Clemson in position to play for the ACC title.

[CMJ]

Alot of near upsets today, but not many actually occured. Still here were the top 25 schools that lost.

(8) Miami (FL)
(16) BYU
(21) Texas Tech
(24) Kansas

[General Dan]

I'm glad we beat Tennessee, but I wish it wasn't so damn close. Then again, there's literally no volume of points we could hang on those assholes to satisfy my undying hatred and bloodlust against everything orange. Somehow Knoxville still lives, and this angers me greatly.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Great game today with Alabama beating LSU. They know get a rematch with Florida. Several upsets today, Iowa, Oregon, Penn State, and Notre Dame all lose.

Clemson won a big game over Florida State. They are in great position to play for the ACC title. Also Spiller should get some Heisman consideration, the kid is amazing.

[CMJ]

Ranked teams to lose this week.

(7) Oregon
(8) Iowa
(9) LSU
(11) Penn St.
(19) Notre Dame
(20) Oklahoma
(23) California

[Taataani Meorrrei]

Tears, tears for Ol' Notre Dame
Another loss and feelin the pain
Cheer up Charlie Weis don't cry
Take your frustrations out on some pie
You get shellacked by Navy football
And by some teams better known for B-ball
But you always know your game will
Be on the N-B-C

[Jedi Master Carr]

Tears, tears for Ol' Notre Dame
Another loss and feelin the pain
Cheer up Charlie Weis don't cry
Take your frustrations out on some pie
You get shellacked by Navy football
And by some teams better known for B-ball
But you always know your game will
Be on the N-B-C

LOL Well Weiss will get fired now. Notre Dame just can't seem to find the right coach since Lou Holtz left. I am happy that Clemson won today and will play in their first ACC championship game. I like their chances against Georgia Tech.

[CMJ]

Ranked teams to lose.

(10) LSU
(14) Stanford
(17) Wisconsin
(25) Rutgers


Some great games today. The AZ/Oregon contest was something else.

[Taataani Meorrrei]

posting the LSU ending because LOL

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Seriously LOL

Les Miles should be beaten behind a woodshed, what a moron.

[Figrin D'an]

These last couple of weeks will be interesting if only to see if teams like TCU and Cincinnati finish undefeated. It's a very real possibility that we could end up with 5 undefeated teams after the conference championships are done. If something like that isn't evidence enough for some kind of playoff format, there's little else that can.


That said, the BCS title game will be Texas vs. Florida/Alabama as long as the schedule holds. It would be kind of anti-climactic if that is the case, since that's been the prediction since about Week 2 of the season.

Personally, I'd love to see TCU get a shot at the whole ball of wax. Of the "other" undefeateds, the Horned Frogs are the most complete teams IMO. They have a nasty defense could compete in a BCS conference, and their offense has been all but unstoppable. Lots of athleticism and speed. If nothing else, it would be great to see them match up with the loser of the SEC title game in a BCS bowl.

[Jedi Master Carr]

It is unfair that TCU has no chance,they are penalized because of where they were ranked when the season began. If they are going to have a playoff they should at least not rank the teams until week 3 or so to get a better idea how good teams are.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Epic Civil War coming up in Oregon. :D :dance

[CMJ]

As a casual observer, I gotta pull for OSU in that game. Haven't been to the Rose Bowl in eons. On the down side if Oregon State and Ohio State make it, one can't use OSU abbreviations.

[General Dan]

Ohio State is technically tOSU, or better yet, Pedophile State. That should help things out.

[Morgan Evanar]

You could use OhSU and OrSU.

Ohio State is technically tOSU, or better yet, Pedophile State. That should help things out.That too.

[General Dan]

Oh my, where are my manners, I had a song for this weekend

Dead Eagle found on the field
Both wings were broke and ground under heel
Dead Eagle never to rise
Brdshot's in its eyes
Die! Die! Die!
Slay all the hayseeds, string up the band
Go to Hell! Go to Hell!
Fall down a well, Hey!
Dead Eagle died at Auburn by Alabama's hand

[Jedi Master Carr]

Two coaching changes, Weiss out in Notre Dame and Bowden is retiring from Florida State.

[Byl Laprovik]

Gooood. Gooood.

These things come in threes, so somebody please throw Lane Kiffin in front of a train.

[Jedi Master Carr]

What is this garbage about Florida State being invited to the Gator Bowl because of bowden retiring?
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4703506
That would be a complete joke if he that happened. Florida State was horrible this year and it shows how screwed up College Football is. 6-6 teams shouldn't be allowed in any postseason game. This is another reason we need a playoff season.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

You won't have to worry about the OSU/OSU thing in the Rose Bowl because Oregon is going to win the Civil War.

[Keerrourri Feessaarro]

You won't have to worry about the OSU/OSU thing in the Rose Bowl because Oregon is going to win the Civil War.

The Beavs haven't had a signature upset this season. I hope the Ducks win, but y'all oughtta be nervous.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Alabama dominated Florida and will go to the National title to face Texas who barely beat Nebraska. I think Alabama will kick the crap out of Texas.

[Dragon]

I really wish that last pass from Colt McCoy had carried just a little bit farther... it would have been hilarious if they'd lost the game by running the clock out on a meaningless play.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Me too, I think he blew the Heisman and it will go to either Ingram or the RB at Stanford.

[CMJ]

What an absolutely crazy weekend. I don't even know where to begin, so I'll just say wow.

[Charley]

Me too, I think he blew the Heisman and it will go to either Ingram or the RB at Stanford.

I homer for Bama a lot but I think Gerhart is the better candidate. That said, I will be thrilled if Ingram gets the nod.

btw Tebow tears are delicious I literally licked the screen

[CMJ]

Hell, throw in that defensive stud(Suh?) from Nebraska while you're at it. That was as dominating a performance as I've ever seen a defensive player have.

[Yog]

Alabama ascends No. 1 spot in USA TODAY poll, Florida drops to No. 5 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/12/alabama-ascends-no-1-spot-in-usa-today-poll-florida-drops-to-no-5/1)

Justice prevails. :cool:

[Charley]

Alabama ascends No. 1 spot in USA TODAY poll, Florida drops to No. 5 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2009/12/alabama-ascends-no-1-spot-in-usa-today-poll-florida-drops-to-no-5/1)

Justice prevails. :cool:

Hell yes :)

[CMJ]

TCU and Boise got absolutely hosed. The Seperate but Equal Bowl. :p

[Charley]

Glad we're not playing TCU because they're beasts, all of them.

Texas we can beat. I'm not so sure about TCU.

[Dragon]

TCU and Boise got absolutely hosed. The Seperate but Equal Bowl. :p

As one person put it, "It's David versus David!"

I look forward to seeing how Cincinnati performs against Florida. It'll be a question of who can make the other defense look worse...

[Jedi Master Carr]

TCU and Boise got absolutely hosed. The Seperate but Equal Bowl. :p

College football is screwed up look at Florida State playing in the Gator Bowl. To me that shows all they care about is money.

[CMJ]

Well, Bowls are always about making money?

[Jedi Master Carr]

I guess that is my issue. I despise the whole system. It is one area that the NFL has over college football, a fair post season.

[Yog]

I have now been lectured about the perfectly working (not! :lol ) college football system by Charley. It was even more needlessly complicated and unfair than I could humanly imagine in my wildest dreams. What a mess.. :p

[Charley]

Hahaha I told you that you needed a drink to understand it.

[Figrin D'an]

I think, given that Colt McCoy has won the Walter Camp, Davey O'Brien and Maxwell awards, combined with some carryover sympathy vote from him probably deserving it last year instead of Bradford, the Heisman voters are likely to give it to him tomorrow night as a career achievement nod. It's happened before.

Personally, I think Gerhart was the most dynamic and productive, and if you separate team success from individual achievement, I think he probably deserves it most, followed closely by Suh. Suh will still end up being the richest out of all of these guys next April.

Not that I really care about college football anymore this year. I'm already fully into hoops mode.

[Charley]

Ugh its going to suck if they give it to McCoy. My only consolation will be the HEISMAN CURSE

[Jedi Master Carr]

It should be Geihart or Ingram. I don't think McCoy deserves it, if he gets it will be a joke and he will just continue the Heisman jinx.

[Charley]

I'm officially behind Gerhart I guess. Yes I'd love if Ingram did get it, but we're so talent-deep in the back field that we can crush people with our second and maybe even third guy. Plus, Ingram is a sophomore, and our line is young. We are going to eat people alive in the next few years.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Congrats Ingram and it was the closest vote ever.

[CMJ]

Suh would've been my choice, but I can't really argue Ingram.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Suh is probably the best college player. It is too bad they almost never reward defense players with the Heisman.

[Yog]

I'm officially behind Gerhart I guess.
That is almost treason. But I forgive you! :)

First ever Heisman Trophy to a Crimson Tide player!!! :crack

[CMJ]

I mean he's a great player, and I can't argue against his win or anything, but he was probably my 3rd choice. It's all opinion I guess.

Plus, the heisman winner is usually a curse for the Bowl games, another reason Chraley may have supported someone else.

[Jedi Master Carr]

That is a myth though, Leinhart won the heisman and the rose bowl the year he won. To me the Heisman has more been a curse about a future career in the pros, lately. I really have no idea why maybe combination of bad luck and bad opportunities.

[CMJ]

That is a myth though, Leinhart won the heisman and the rose bowl the year he won. To me the Heisman has more been a curse about a future career in the pros, lately. I really have no idea why maybe combination of bad luck and bad opportunities.

Leinart and Carson Palmer are really the only recent examples of someone who excelled in their Bowl games tho.

(And both won the Orange Bowl, not the Rose FYI)

[Jedi Master Carr]

That is a myth though, Leinhart won the heisman and the rose bowl the year he won. To me the Heisman has more been a curse about a future career in the pros, lately. I really have no idea why maybe combination of bad luck and bad opportunities.

Leinart and Carson Palmer are really the only recent examples of someone who excelled in their Bowl games tho.

(And both won the Orange Bowl, not the Rose FYI)

Whoops I got it mixed up. Still don't think it matters though. I see Alabama winning easily. I think Texas is overrated.

[Figrin D'an]

Whoops I got it mixed up. Still don't think it matters though. I see Alabama winning easily. I think Texas is overrated.


Just how USC was gonna win easily over Texas in 2006, or Florida State was going to roll Oklahoma in 2001, or Miami was going to destroy Ohio State in 2002.


As much as I don't like the talking heads on ESPN very much, Kirk Herbstreit made a great point last week... there's going to be a solid month of talk propping up Alabama and praising them for how good they are and how they'll obliterate Texas just by showing up, and plenty of talk about how Texas didn't play well down the stretch of the season, and is overrated and maybe shouldn't be playing for the national title. No matter how much coaches try to shield their teams from the media discussion, they will hear it. Alabama players will hear about how good they are, and Texas players will hear about how much they suck in comparison. And more often than not, either the massively hyped team comes out of the gates flat or the team labeled as overrated plays with a chip on their shoulder and lays it all on the line to prove themselves. If one of those things happens, you have a tight ball game. If both of those things happen, you end up with a "Florida over Ohio State in 2007" type of beat down upset.


I'm not saying Alabama won't win (to his credit, Nick Saban is pretty deadly when he's given more than a week to prepare for an opponent), but anyone who thinks this will be a one-sided mockery of a game hasn't been paying attention to the college football landscape for the last 10 years.

[Sanis Prent]

Yeah I'm nervous as hell about the game. I think the buzz has merit behind it and that we're the better team, but you're right about the echo chamber taking a toll.

Fortunately this team is some sort of death cult or something and they've had a ridiculous amount of devotion to the cause. I expect them to show up ready to win.

[Irridia Solensis]

I have absolutely nothing constructive to add to the conversation, however I do feel the need to point out that alongside my festering hatred of everything Ohio State (you can thank my ex for that), I am also hoping USC mops the turf with BC. I went to Northeastern...we're required to hate the buggers.

*climbs off of her soapbox*

Carry on...I'm done ranting :)

[Figrin D'an]

Apparently, Urban Meyer has resigned as head coach at Florida.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4772952


Official reason is "health concerns."

[Cirrsseeto Quez]

I'm wondering if his cancer is back. That sucks.

[Jedi Master Carr]

I heard heart problems are the reason.

[Jedi Master Carr]

McCoy is out and it doesn't look good for him coming back. Texas is now in a tough position to come back.

[CMJ]

Turned out to be a pretty good game. Congrats Tide.

[Jedi Master Carr]

Yeah it did, Alabama's defense won the game in the end.

[Ryan Pode]

It was over the moment Colt McCoy was done. I don't think he would have made the mistakes the Gilbert made, that effectively doomed the Longhorns.

[Yog]

Me and Charley are on cloud nine. Will call back when we get down. :D

[Figrin D'an]

It's a complete shame that Colt McCoy missed what was basically the biggest game of his career to this point. Despite all of UT's success while he has been their quarterback, it's pretty amazing how much he has and his team have gotten screwed through no fault of their own.

Despite all of that, the kid is a class act, and I hope he finds a good home in the NFL and has a solid career.


Alabama deserved to win, though. They played hard, made plays when they needed to, and capped a great season by playing like a championship team should in a game when it's all on the line. Considering the personnel that they bring back next year, it seems likely they'll be the preseason #1 team in August.

[Sanis Prent]

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suck my diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick

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[Jedi Master Carr]

Kiffin goes to USC, talk about betrayal to Tennessee fans, although the Vols are probably better off. Kiffin was pushing them to probation with a lot of his actions.

[Figrin D'an]

Lane Kiffin has gotten more high profile jobs for doing so very little than any other coach in recent memory. The guy is 12-21 as a head coach (1.5 years with Oakland, 1 at Tennessee), and now he's being handed the keys to the high performance USC machine that Pete Carroll built.

The only good part about this move for USC is that they get Monte Kiffin, Ed Orgeron and Norm Chow as part of the deal, whom are all far better coaches/recruiters their boss.

This will not end well. Kiffin with either jump back to the NFL, just like his mentor Carroll, or he'll ensure that the NCAA hammer about to hit the Trojan program strikes with even more force.

[Morgan Evanar]

Kiffin is the ultimate football troll.

[Sanis Prent]

He's a dick, but he was a dick to Tennessee so he is the greatest person ever.