A question for the Empire/Imperials esp

[Estelle Russard]

I have a character that I am resurrecting from the pre-reset and I am setting her up to be sort of like a Intergalactic Supreme Court Judge.

The closest thing to such a thing that I could find in the SWwiki was regarding the former Judical Department (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judicial_Department) back when there was a Repulic. It appears to have survived into Palpatines rule, though less autonomous.

I was hoping to establish as a background a variant of the Judicial Department (calling it the Order of Solomon) being...a judicial system that is Subject to the Military, but operates independantly from it. A judicial civilian body, but still under Imperial rule and constraints.

For example, its task would be the prosecution of high profile smugglers and pirates or white collar crooks like CEO's, even to investigating the upper echelons of Imperial and Non-Imperial power/politics etc. The key being - a Judiciary that is NOT military but answerable TO them and would protect and see that intergalactic law is enforced. Its juristriction would reach over different quadrants (SEE SECTOR CO-ORDINATORS on the wiki page) of the galaxy and be, in part, a bridge for the many difference societies to bring claims to etc.

And so - my question is this....is this feasible given our current setting and what would be the authority and the limitations of such a body? Similar to the Wiki Judiciary Dept, or not even close?

Im not looking to make a group, just to have a workable background for my character. I guess I could just make her a plantetary Judge, but I wanted a broader scope than that, almost like an Ambassador of Imperial Law...actually that might even do it.

Comments?

[Tear]

Sounds like the FBI...almost. Or a sort of yin to the Inquisitors yang. Where the Inquisitors deal primarily with internal security issues your order would be dealing with the external issues being the public face of it. Sheriff;)

As for its feasibility I don't see why it wouldn't fit in with its authority being pretty much the same as the wiki states with possible changes made to the reference of the Jedi. Maybe have that refer to the Inquisitors or Imperial military Intelligence for their coordination.

Only limits I could think of is having your characters authority challenged by Intelligence or the Inquisitors on certain cases she may be working on.
IE. The FBI is working a criminal case only to have the CIA come along and tell them to shove off.

Other then that it looks good and the Empire needs a public face for law. It is what the Empire stands for after all.

[Hera]

Sounds like the FBI...almost. Or a sort of yin to the Inquisitors yang. Where the Inquisitors deal primarily with internal security issues your order would be dealing with the external issues being the public face of it. Sheriff;)

As for its feasibility I don't see why it wouldn't fit in with its authority being pretty much the same as the wiki states with possible changes made to the reference of the Jedi. Maybe have that refer to the Inquisitors or Imperial military Intelligence for their coordination.

Only limits I could think of is having your characters authority challenged by Intelligence or the Inquisitors on certain cases she may be working on.
IE. The FBI is working a criminal case only to have the CIA come along and tell them to shove off.

This, actually, is a really good summary of the idea. Especially the FBI/CIA analogy. I fully expect the Powers that Be to intervene with a heavy unwanted hand when they feel it necessary.




Other then that it looks good and the Empire needs a public face for law. It is what the Empire stands for after all.

Oh, Tear...you're so full of it :D

[I'nu]

This concept could work well next to the ISB (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Security_Bureau)

[Captain Untouchable]

Drawing a comparison to the way things run in the US (since the UK's system is boring, and doesn't really have many parallels), I'd suggest that:

Imperial Intelligence = CIA

Deals from threats from without (other countries, etc). You could argue that "The Rebel Alliance" is sort of a foreign power in its own right, so Imperial Intelligence would deal with spying on them, providing intelligence on their fleet movements, and that sort of thing... as they do already, presumably.


Imperial Security Bureau (ISB) = Department of Homeland Security

Deals with threats from within. Maintains surveillance on suspected Rebel sympathisers, gathers intelligence about insurgent rebels (Jack Bauer style), and that sort of thing. My Agent character is ISB, and I'm treating him as a sort of Homeland Security attaché to the local security forces he's working with.


Judicial Department = Department of Justice

That's the umbrella department that includes the FBI. On top of the FBI, they do all the prosecution type stuff that the OP mentioned. Presumably they'd hand off some of their responsibility to the "District Attorney" on some planets, and would only deal with either really big crimes, or crimes that span numerous planets (smuggling, being a terrorist, etc).

Based on the SWwiki page, the FBI would be a bit like the guys that are "Patrolling the Republic's borders, policing the Republic's space, apprehending wanted beings, and providing other law-enforcement services within Republic space." They'd presumably work with the local law enforcement on planets in the same way that the FBI does.

You could probably argue that the Imperial Customs Corvettes and such work for the Judicial Department, rather than working for the Imperial Navy - the "Judicial Starfleet (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judicial_Forces)", perhaps?


So effectively, like Tear says, you could treat 'em like the FBI. When the situation is too big for local law enforcement, the "FBI" takes over; similarly, the "CIA" or "Homeland Security" can step in when it strays into their jurisdiction.

[Rev Solomon]

The Order of what? O_o

[Eliessa Corta]

You could probably argue that the Imperial Customs Corvettes and such work for the Judicial Department, rather than working for the Imperial Navy - the "Judicial Starfleet (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judicial_Forces)", perhaps?

So...can the Order of Solomon have this ^^^ ?





So effectively, like Tear says, you could treat 'em like the FBI. When the situation is too big for local law enforcement, the "FBI" takes over; similarly, the "CIA" or "Homeland Security" can step in when it strays into their jurisdiction.

The CIA being the Inquisitoriate per say?

The rub of it, however, is that the Order intends to Investigate the Inq :p

I believe my character shall quickly become unpopular :ohno
(ps- where did that toothy smiley come from lol)

pss) Im working on a Wiki page for the Order, so need some ducks in rows for it. Thanks for all input.

[Tear]

You could probably argue that the Imperial Customs Corvettes and such work for the Judicial Department, rather than working for the Imperial Navy - the "Judicial Starfleet (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Judicial_Forces)", perhaps?

So...can the Order of Solomon have this ^^^ ?

Yes, I believe they can and should. Motion carried.




So effectively, like Tear says, you could treat 'em like the FBI. When the situation is too big for local law enforcement, the "FBI" takes over; similarly, the "CIA" or "Homeland Security" can step in when it strays into their jurisdiction.
The CIA being the Inquisitoriate per say?


Sounds like a reasonable analogy to me. Bring on the investigations!;)

[Morgan Evanar]

It's not a toothy smile, it's a smiley holding it's hands to it's face, going "oh dear".

[Eliessa Corta]

It's not a toothy smile, it's a smiley holding it's hands to it's face, going "oh dear".

Oh, lol. I thought it was buck teeth!
It is even a more appropriate choice that I used it then.:)

As for the Judicial Fleet, I think it is reasonable to have it too, but I just didnt want to arrive and say "ta da! I got a mess a ships with me" without clarification.

I will wait a bit, tho, for any objections on it that may still come.