Traitor Storyline

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay, I've 'officially' started the storyline where there's a traitor feeding high-level intel to the Imperials and I'd like to get help from those active members of the Alliance here.

I've got some ideas in place for threads, but I guess the big question is how indepth do we want to go on this?

Any help on this would be great.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay I'm gonna start listing ideas so I don't forget 'em.

1) Current 'In Sheep's Clothing' RP.

2) Rebellion goes and rescues Samantha Lessard from the clutches of the Inquisitors (roughly a month after In Sheep's Clothing).

3) A deep cover operative discovers the code-name of the Imperial agent (Cavalier). The Rebellion sends someone (doesn't have to be E/K) to get 'em out. The operative gets killed, but passes along I think 3/4 of the info. It gives a bank account, codename, but not the real name of the traitor.

4) Through the codename or some other way, the Rebellion discovers a meet between the traitor and the Inq (this could also be a false flag or red herring if necessary).

5) Rebellion discovers an Inq plot against the current Mon (who's name I'm blanking on) and tries to stop it.

6) Traitor is found out.

The end result I'm still not sure of. I have two potential endings, I'm debating.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Also in the 'rescue Samantha Lessard thread' it might be then the plot against the current Mon is discovered. Give the Rebellion a chance t'start making preparations.

Any suggestions people?

[Estelle Russard]

You could include Mirko Spendrim as a source for some of the disturbing information coming through about the Traitor.

How is the traitor found out? And seeming as the traitor is high-level We could do a Where Eagles Dare type of operation and bring in a third, unconnected party that is not compromised in anyway in order to do so. They may or may not understand their own role in the process.

Sorry, not great suggestions, but just tossing things out.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

I will have to read that movie and watch that book. I've heard about it, sounds interesting.

I was thinking more along the lines of 'following the creds' to who the traitor is.

Not a bad idea at all though. And possibly easier to follow.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

You know...Spenny could also be the one who investigates the background of the double agents we've all ready seen (the ones in the 'Survival' thread). Assuming the Rebels find more that could be one way he's involved.

[Estelle Russard]

Well, Mirko has big ears, and it is not unreasonable to think he would have his own 'network' of friends that supply him with the information he supplies everyone else. He is one of those characters that is always on the peripheral of things and can therefore pick up snippets of info like lint.

"Where eagles Dare" general outline was that the British Secret Service believed one of their own top honcho's was a traitor. They sent a team lead by Richard Burton to Austria to rescue a general (actually an actor posing as a general) who had been caught by the Nazi's and part of the rescue team was one or two KNOWN traitors. However, they werent certain of the others, or of the traitorous top officer's identity - and so they sent an American officer (Clint Eastwood) along so at least Burton would have one trustworthy team member he could count on. The main reason of the mission was not so much the resuce of the faux-general, but to confirm the name of the high ranking traitor by the germans themselves.

Its a great old movie, and greater book by Alistair McLean.

Anyway, thats what I mean about bringing in an outsider of Rebel Interl. Could be a Jedi, or even just a trustworthy scallawag that Kazaar knows. Like BloodCrest even..

[Aurelias Kazaar]

BC would be a good choice if he can stay active.

And I like your idea with Spenny.

Bossman, whatta ya think?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Couple other things.

1) With the Rebel intel people, I think their code names are going to be used more. Ex: E/K would be called OPHELIA/COWBOY instead of their real names. That might explain how no one's cover gets completely blown in this (E/K specifically).

How might the Alliance military be involved in this? Or should they?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay more scheming done

[19:37] AureliasKazaar: Well maybe the Empire is hoping to have another 'back door' into the Rebellion. And they figure if they 'take out' the Mon, Dasq's personality and reputation in the Rebellion will cause him to be 'forced' into a more political role.
[19:37] AureliasKazaar: If that makes sense.
[19:37] lordvanderveld: so they have the potential to manipulate him in the future?
[19:38] AureliasKazaar: Yeah. Think 'Manchurian Candidate'


[19:44] AureliasKazaar: Ooo...in fact....we could leave it on a cliff hanger.
[19:44] AureliasKazaar: Maybe Dasq gets kidnapped at the end of the storyline.
[19:45] AureliasKazaar: Maybe if we want to do it as a 'triology' of plotlines. Maybe the next 'series' is the "Search For Belargic'?
[19:45] AureliasKazaar: Or is it complicated enough lol
[19:45] lordvanderveld: i like it!

Maybe the sequence should be different:

[19:58] AureliasKazaar: As in maybe it goes this way: Dasq gets kidnapped while investigating the traitor (maybe it's him who goes to find a deep cover operative somewhere), then he's rescued, then the attempt on the Mon is done, then the traitor is found out and escapes.

[Karl Valten]

*dances through rebel forums*

Anywho, I'm on board for this plan as well. The Inq hasn't really acted against the alliance yet. Also a chance for the rebs to gain some knowledge on the Inq (which is about squat at the moment except for what Estelle has found out....and whatever TBM is keeping to himself. :p)

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Any ideas on how you'd want the sequence to go Karl?

[Samantha Lessard]

For those who may not've read it, this (http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=16764) is essentially the prelude/first chapter of the traitor storyline.

C'mon people I want ideas here! :p

[Dasquian Belargic]

Great read! I can't wait to get involved in this :)

[Aurelias Kazaar]

What I'm really concerned with is the sequencing of events. Is the kidnapping of Dasq the last part of the entire arc or is it in the middle with the reasons for it coming out later?

[Karl Valten]

Sorry about the late reply, holidays, work, and that jazz have kept me busy. I'll throw my bit in later this evening.

At the moment I have to shovel a path to the garage so I can get my car in and out. :p

[Dasquian Belargic]

What I'm really concerned with is the sequencing of events. Is the kidnapping of Dasq the last part of the entire arc or is it in the middle with the reasons for it coming out later?

I'm not sure which would be the most exciting. Probably having it happen in the middle?

[Karl Valten]

How about this, Dasq is the one who discovers the Inq plot against the Mon and has to escape/get rescued in order to warn anyone. That would probably put the capturing in the middle of events.

[Dasquian Belargic]

So he'd discover the plot whilst captured. Yeah, that sounds good! Maybe he discovers it in the process of escaping?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

I always figured he'd find out while he was being captured. Maybe the deep-cover operative he meets with is a 'sleeper agent' or something? For the Inq I mean.

That might change up how the Rebs find out the code name of the traitor...maybe Mirko finds it out and tells the Alliance.

[Dasquian Belargic]

That works too. You guys seem better and planning things than me, so I'll trust in your judgement!

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Doesn't mean ideas can't be thrown out. Mine are not always the best. :)

[Karl Valten]

Same here, I tend to like complicated stuff to being straightforward.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

What if we did this:

A deep cover operative tells the Rebs he's got the code-name and bank account, of the traitor. While E/K (or whoever) go to get them out, Dasq is sent a priority alert telling him another operative wants to meet about a plot against "somone high up in the Alliance". Dasq goes and is captured that way, while E/K find out the codename, etc.

Note- I'm doing this on little sleep so it might not make sense.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Or...we could do this (and this is on a little more sleep)--

What if there were two plots against the Mon, one of which is using 'outside mercenary group' called "Destruction's Durge" or something like that. I wanted it to be head by a Mrlssi (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mrlssi) but I dunno if that'll work.

It could be this is the plot Dasq uncovers but the 2nd one deals with a couple things Dasq and I talked about (the Manchurian Candidate stuff).

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Adding more stuff. I think E/K could find out the codename of the traitor on a mission. Maybe they're given the task of watching a meeting between two Imperials for info on something else (Karl, help here?) and run into something even more devious (discussion Operative CAVALIER).

A the same time, Dasq could get the call from the operative on another planet and gets caught that way.

[Grace Van-Derveld]

You know I'm aboard for anything you need me for

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Well I'm the one up in 'In Sheep's Clothing', so I'll post to that tomorrow. Dunno when the next one'll be started but 'soon' is the best word for it. :lol

I do know Rogue Squadron's needed for the next one too and I've all ready talked to Kelly 'bout it.

[Estelle Russard]

All sounds good to me also.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Oh hey what your idea in relation to 'Where Eagles Dare'? Specifically with Spenny? I'm interested in that.

[Dasquian Belargic]

You know I'm aboard for anything you need me for

Once we have a plot hammered out, point me in the direction of the reply button :lol

[Grace Van-Derveld]

LOL No kidding :)

[Antä]

Me too. :)

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay one thing I do know is this:

The 'next' RP will be the one where Lessard is rescued from an Imperial freighter. I've talked to Kelly and Rogue Squadron will be involved to a degree in escorting TBM, E/K, Anta, and Dashiel Starborn to the freighter where Lessard is being held.

That's what I go so far.

[Estelle Russard]

The Where Eagles Dare angle is that we have a Non-RA person along on the mission to be certain that we have atleast ONE person not tainted/in cahoots with the actual Betrayer.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Basically Mirko would be helping out the Rebs in their investigation? That type of thing?

[Estelle Russard]

Yeah, I figure he can just come thru with some pertinent information now and then to keep things moving along.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Works for me. :)

[Aurelias Kazaar]

I figure, Spenny can be working with the Counter-Intel people on finding out who the traitor is. I forgot who Lessard's NPCed 2nd-in-command was. I'll hafta re-think her up :lol

[Aurelias Kazaar]

One part of a thread could be a meet between Zadge and Mirko. Maybe someone (TBM or maybe Bossman) sends Zadge to meet Mirko about an encrypted file or something (involving the traitor. I'll think up a better reason).

But it could end up into a 'chase' between Spenny/Zadge and either the Imps or the mercs. Could be an interested chase.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

First thread after 'In Sheep's Clothing' will be the rescue mission. It'll be in two teams: Rawl, TBM, and Hothead on one and E/K/Anta on the other. They'll be tasked with rescuing Lessard from Imperial clutches.

If it's possible to throw in a short conversation between Dasq and Grace about the potential traitor and what task they'd take, I wouldn't mind that at all.

If you think that'd work out.

[Estelle Russard]

Yes, I like the idea :D

[Grace Van-Derveld]

If it's possible to throw in a short conversation between Dasq and Grace about the potential traitor and what task they'd take, I wouldn't mind that at all.


I wouldn't even know where to begin with this o_O

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Yeah I know. It was only a suggestion. Could be one of those, 'who do we trust' conversations.

*shrug*

[Estelle Russard]

Ok, well, we've put our heads together and have come up with our third "outside" participant in the mission - Mili k'Vik.

We (The Black Man, actually) is trying to recruit her into the Rebel Alliance, and has brought her (compliments of Byl Laprovik) to E & K, who will take her along on the Traitor-hunt mission.

We are going to set the stage for this in a preliminary thread starting soon, which we can tie into the main Story Thread, outlined herein.

Moving forward :)

PS) I can see this will probably be a multi-thread story arc, any suggestions on a MAIN TITLE: to link other Chapter titles together?

[Estelle Russard]

Oh! What about: Who Do We Trust?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

How about 'Who to trust'?

[Estelle Russard]

or, "Toxicity" which is RA code for Imperial Spies.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Incidentally, Taylor, I can't recall what we agreed/talked about regarding Sasseeri and Stars End? Do you remember? :lol I feel like such a colander head.

[Reshmar]

As you may or may not know the Fleet does not trust Alliance INtel and High Command at this point. We will be doing our own investigation and I am sure we will cross someplace.

I do Like the "Toxicity" idea.

As for Fleet Intel I have been under the weather as of late and am just now getting over this flu crud. I have a fleet thread going and am planing something very big. I plan on a investigation which I would like to be within the main storyline we come up with.

I have also been approached with the idea of a "Lightning strike" on Coruscant itself as a way of drawing attention off the fleet and making the Imperials Recall ships to defend primary targets, This could also open up an oppertunity for INtel, but it could also backfire and give the Imperials cause to mass against one target in retaliation. Thats what I would do.

I am still debating IF it can actually be done IC, I have my doubts. Any ideas or input would be great.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Any reason why Fleet doesn't trust command?

[Reshmar]

A leak From the top has cost the fleet dearly We have suffered a string of defeats which were all because of Bad Intel from Alliance Command.

We do not know where the leak is, but most Fleet operations have been suspended Only a single task group is operating outside planetary defense duties and they are under com blackout.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay, had some time (a month and a half) to think this over a bit. I've got some additional ideas.

1) Near the end of 'Toxicity and the Dark Lady', The Black Man approaches E/K/M about the capture of Forlon. Since Fleet operations have been suspended, TBM's "contacts" (re: spies) in the fleet haven't been giving him a lot of information. The Forlon capture starts that up.

2) I figure there's a mole within Navy Intelligence, leaking information (whether known or unknown) to CAVALIER (the Imp's mole in Rebel Intelligence). That 'mole' could feed to CAVALIER on the fact the fleet is getting ready to launch a rescue operation. So that could make the rescue operation even more tough. But Reshmar that's up to you.

3) I'll have to figure out what planet this'll be on, but somewhere there's a communications depot where message traffic (including the stuff from CAVALIER) goes through. E/K/M are going to raid it after the Forlon rescue. It'll be there they learn about the plot against Mon Razwhatshername.

4) Okay I haven't gotten that far.

Any suggestions from anyone? I could use them :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

If you mean the new Mon, it's Mon Razien (it's a guy ;))

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Why did I think it was a girl? Anyway...yeah Razien...the Empire wants to take out Razien and is gonna try to do it.

[Estelle Russard]

Well I'm the one up in 'In Sheep's Clothing', so I'll post to that tomorrow. Dunno when the next one'll be started but 'soon' is the best word for it. :lol

I do know Rogue Squadron's needed for the next one too and I've all ready talked to Kelly 'bout it.

Ive started a Chonology in another thread for the Traitor/Toxicity storyline, but I dont think this above thread ever happened, did it?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Nope. Most of the earlier ideas, like from last year, have been scrapped. Except for the plot against Razien.

[Jane Starborn]

Okay I'm a rebel n00b and I'd like to sort of dovetail my current RP into current events. Jane is on the trail of missing Byl Laprovik, who was convinced he knew there was a traitor to the Alliance in our midst.

Of course, his traitor is not the same one as yours. But we don't necessarily know this at this point. So Jane is headed to interview some people who saw him last, hoping she can find out where he is and find out what he knows.

At least, I think his traitor isn't the same one as yours. :uhoh I don't know how much Charley and Christin talk to the rest of you guys about their storylines.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

4) Kazaar gets a message from Misha Repin (the current Sub-Director of Rebel Alliance Intentions- Cryptography and Analysis) saying they need to talk (I haven't decided if the two know who the other is or if the Repin was given Kazaar's frequency). The meet is requested because Repin has more information on the traitor (potential departments that have been compromised completely) and also knows there's a plot against Mon Razien. During the meet (or right before it) he is attacked by a bounty hunter in Mandalorian armor named Fertigg and killed. Kazaar, in turn, kills Fertigg.

During after Fertigg's death, he (Fertigg) get a message from the Empire asking if the job is done and for a meet. Because Fertigg is short (like below six feet short) Kazaar goes to Estelle and Mili and asks for one of them to sub for Fertigg at the meet. There they discover Repin's #2 is meeting with Imperials (and Fertigg) and is one of the traitors. The meet is done with Inquisitors (possibly Morewind) who discuss the pending assassination attempt on Razien's life. E/K/M bust the meeting (somehow), kill the Imps (which is why I say possibly Morewind because I want to keep him around).

5) E/K/M/TBM try to stop the assassination on Razien.

I've also got a subplot I'm working on with Samantha Lessard's investigation into the traitor but I've only got so much there.

So far so good?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Okay I'm a rebel n00b and I'd like to sort of dovetail my current RP into current events. Jane is on the trail of missing Byl Laprovik, who was convinced he knew there was a traitor to the Alliance in our midst.

Of course, his traitor is not the same one as yours. But we don't necessarily know this at this point. So Jane is headed to interview some people who saw him last, hoping she can find out where he is and find out what he knows.

At least, I think his traitor isn't the same one as yours. :uhoh I don't know how much Charley and Christin talk to the rest of you guys about their storylines.

I'm pretty sure they aren't the same.

When you say interview him, you mean people who last saw Byl? Best person to interview is TBM on that. E/K haven't encountered him yet.

Not throwing away the idea, but just saying.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

The last persons who saw him on record is General Dan and the Jedi Loklorien s'Ilancy.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

That's what I thought.

[Morgan Evanar]

One of the last people before that was Milivikal.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

And I'd forgotten that! Thanks for the reminder.

[Estelle Russard]

So....

So far, the first 3 plot points are covered in the existing/current threads up until Man Overboard (in the chronology).

Point 4 a new thread.

Then 5. the actual foiling of the assass attempt probably another thread after that..?

Jane - your interview thread (as far as Mili and TBM are concerned) should probably take place after Toxicity and a Dark Lady, and before Man Overboard, timewise speaking, I think. (There is a time span of 3-4 days between those threads).

Or failing that, after Man Overboard works too.

I guess it all depends on how fast you want to move on it.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

I think it might be best to have it take place after Man Overboard (heck even after the attempted assasination). There are a few days in between but those would be spent planning.

Unless you guys would prefer otherwise, I think the attempted assasination is only the first attempt against Razien.

Yes, I admit to be channeling 24 a bit.

[Jane Starborn]

Okay that sounds okay. Jane might look up Milikvik later if she needs to. Speaking of, what exactly is her position in the Alliance? ...there are too many RPs to read :cry

[Estelle Russard]

At the moment, Mili is operating in the roll of an outside insider. In other words, she is an ally to the rebels on this mission, but not necessarily a certified 'rebel operative'. She is lending her expertise for the cause, her trustworthiness vouched for by The Black Man.
(pardon me answering for her, btw).
Im sure Mili can/will expand on this if she wants ta :)

[Aurelias Kazaar]

She's just an agent really. Probably a free agent under the guide of Estelle.

Her involvement with E/K is NOT known except for 'The Black Man'. Even Bossman doesn't know :mneh

I figure Byl probably sent a few reports here and there so that's how Jane knows she saw Byl last.

[Jane Starborn]

She was on what I'm calling the "Lacrimosa" mission in which s'Ilancy, herself, Eluna Thals and I believe Byl infiltrated Coruscant and extracted Colonel Karrnage.

edit: another thread I need to read in its entirety. :uhoh

[Dasquian Belargic]

Her involvement with E/K is NOT known except for 'The Black Man'. Even Bossman doesn't know :mneh

Yeah, I have more pressing matters to worry about right now.. like being drugged and beaten by the Empire :|

[Grace Van-Derveld]

:( And I'm a prisoner on Vjun ... for now >D

[Aurelias Kazaar]

We do need to figure out when this is going on. When does Dasq/Grace's thread take place vs. E/K/M's threads?

[Aurelias Kazaar]

6) Mili is questioned by Jane Starborn on her involvement with Byl Laprovik. Lessard reveals who she thinks the traitor is, while E/K go through their own data on the traitor. (Tenatively entitled "Deep Breath")

[Aurelias Kazaar]

I think one question that hasn't been completely figured out is how many traitors are there?

I know who the "ultimate" traitor is but I'm debating between three-and-five others. A 'Gang of Four' or a 'Toxic Six'.

Four might be better (since it's a bit easier to handle thread-wise) but still...

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Also regardless how many we choose it means there will be extra chapters to this story. So I'll start working on that.

7) E/K/M get a new boss and contemplate what they should do about their old one. The trio is also sent to <insert planet here> to meet a man named Castor about the so-called 'Toxic Six'

[Kyran O'Hurn]

Just read through everything and think I'm up to speed. Not sure you need it, but let me know if you could me another SpecForce soldier anywhere.

BTW, good story.

[Estelle Russard]

I like the "Toxic Six".

I dont think we need to add more chapters simply on how many traitors there are involved as the majority of them could be quickly culled out of the mix/exposed and sumarily dealt with, and the focus remain on the more prominent ones.

Hello Kyran :wave

[Aurelias Kazaar]

You know me...always thinking up new plot ideas. ;)

[Jane Starborn]

6) Mili is questioned by Jane Starborn on her involvement with Byl Laprovik. Lessard reveals who she thinks the traitor is, while E/K go through their own data on the traitor. (Tenatively entitled "Deep Breath")

Can I hang out with you guys more? Gracey doesn't want me to help with Dasq. :cry

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Adding some more stuff:


I was trying to figure out how many members of 'the Toxic Six' actually know who the other is. If they want plausible deniability, some of them aren't going to know the others (like the lower level Cavalier members wouldn't know who the higher ups are). I was halfway tempted to have some of them be recruited by someone called Stephen Kametta but that might be making it too complicated.

I just kinda like the idea of E/K/M and TBM going 'off the reservation' (but not rogue) to track down Kametta.

Also a possible updated timeline on this:

2) Man Overboard

3) Raid On Communications Platform

4) Attempt on Razien

5) Repin and Kazaar meet

6) Interview with Starborn/Interrogation and Death of a Cavalier member/TBM declared the traitor

7) Jailbreak E/K/M-style.


8) Hunting the rest of the Six/Learning of second attempt on Razien

9) Final Pieces Put together

10) Final Attempt on Razien

This is just off the top of my head. Maybe I'm being too rigid on this. It doesn't have to be ten (that could be too long) but I wasn't expecting long 'chapters'.

[Grace Van-Derveld]

6) Mili is questioned by Jane Starborn on her involvement with Byl Laprovik. Lessard reveals who she thinks the traitor is, while E/K go through their own data on the traitor. (Tenatively entitled "Deep Breath")

Can I hang out with you guys more? Gracey doesn't want me to help with Dasq. :cry

I said I was going to have you guys help. I just don't want your mother pissed at me :|

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I know that now :p

[Aurelias Kazaar]

One thing I'm considering, but haven't decided, is will there be a 'break' between TBM getting arrested and E/K/M breaking him out. The new boss coming in is gonna 'shake things up' a bit.

I'm halfway tempted to make it a 'Four Months Later' thing or something like that.

Of course the problem with that is then people have to adapt their timelines to mine and it'd be just as easy to have ti all happen in a manner of weeks than months.

[Dasquian Belargic]

If it could happen in a matter of weeks, have it happen that way - only the timelines are getting shifted about enough as it is, and there is so much that is all linked together right now.. that it's getting really confusing >_<

[Aurelias Kazaar]

That's hardly my fault. I've been planning this for almost a year :p

That's why I brought up doing the 'Four Months Later' dealie.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

That's part of the problem - long planning, long execution... other smaller arcs or threads get started and completed in the meantime which throws off the timeline. :p Not that its terrible or anything, its just a fact. :)

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Well this would have been done a year ago but something about two cross country moves in six months ;)

[Dasquian Belargic]

All I'm saying is, Darkest Days is linked into and referenced in a whole lot of other threads right now. It would be a lot of upheaval to change all of them.

But this is the problem, like you say, of threads taking a long time to complete. Unavoidable, but no less problematic for it.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

Well 'Toxicity''s "problem" (even though it wasn't really one) was it took a while to be put together. None of the threads have taken a long time to complete, just one of those situations where the ball took a little bit to get started rolling.

[Estelle Russard]

Right now, where is the current conflict? Im unaware of any clash in timelines/story arcs, only that ALOT is going on at the same time.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

I don't think there is one just that a lot is going on.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Yep, it's just a busy time to be a Rebel.

[Estelle Russard]

:rolleyes o-kay

Lots going on is a problem to have :)

Until it starts getting muddled, we should leave the timeline as is imo.

It just means everyone cant be a part of everything thats going down, thats all.