Parents can't name their kid "4Real"

[Itala Marzullo]

I know anyone has the right to name their kid whatever, but this is just mind-numbing:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070622/ap_on_fe_st/odd_new_zealand_baby_name


WELLINGTON, New Zealand - New Zealand authorities have blocked a couple's bid to officially name their new son "4real," saying numerals are not allowed.
<noscript>http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=BhKCMUWTVvoKRtTNRYIU.Ap4Qp.uO0aBNioABCtB&T=19nhpeae1%2fX%3d1182873130%2fE%3d89014318%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3dH%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d5 2703819%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PSJp dDtnb3Zlcm5tZW50O2NsYXJpZnk7Y2hpbGRyZW47cmVmdXJsX3 d3d195YWhvb19jb20iIHJlZnVybD0icmVmdXJsX3d3d195YWhv b19jb20iIHRvcGljcz0icmVmdXJsX3d3d195YWhvb19jb20i%2 fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3dE1519345&U=13ba8vac0%2fN%3do5_cAdGDJGc-%2fC%3d588563.10863310.11475869.1442997%2fD%3dLREC %2fB%3d4533180</noscript>
Pat and Sheena Wheaton said they decided to name their new baby "4real" shortly after having an ultrasound and being struck by the reality of his impending arrival.
"For most of us, when we try to figure out what our names mean, we have to look it up in a babies book and ... there's no direct link between the meaning and the name," Pat Wheaton told TV One on Wednesday. "With this name, everyone knows what it means."
But when the parents filed the name with New Zealand's Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, they were told names beginning with a number were against the rules.
The government office has opened negotiations with the parents about the name under a policy that says all unusual names must be given case-by-case consideration.
"The name has not at this stage been rejected," Registrar-General Brian Clarke said in a statement Thursday. "We are currently in discussions with the parents ... to clarify the situation."
Clarke said the rules are designed to prevent names that are "likely to cause offense to a reasonable person." Satan and Adolf Hitler were proposed names that have been declined, he said.
If no compromise has been reached by July 9, the baby will be registered as "real," officials say.
New Zealand law requires all children born in the South Pacific nation to be registered with the Births, Deaths and Marriages registry within two months of birth.

COME ON! What's wrong with these people? The decadence of society is at hand.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

When I have a baby, I'm going to name him or her Seven.

A gold star to anyone who catches the reference ;)

[Itala Marzullo]

When I have a baby, I'm going to name him or her Seven.

A gold star to anyone who catches the reference ;)

Yeah yeah, Seven, Brad Pitt, Sanis Prent, Charley, Alabama

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Nice try, but nope.

[Darth McBain]

Why not "Soda" ?

[Mr. Feint]

"4Real", eh? Why not go with something more modern, like "fo sho", or "Fo Shizzle". This is almost as bad as that one guy naming his son "Version Two". Some people are just weird and should not be allowed to reproduce.

Why Seven and not Sleven?

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

Haha! McBain got it :D



Seven is what George Costanza wanted to name his future child, Mr. Feint :)

[Darth McBain]

It's got cachet, baby!!! :)

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

It's Mickey Mantle's number. So not only is it an all-around beautiful name, it is also a living tribute!









I watch waaaay too much Seinfeld ^_^;

[Laodice Laos]

I watch waaaay too much Seinfeld ^_^;

That is not possible.

Serenity now!

[Yog]

What is wrong with people?

The next thing they will do is name their kids "O rly", "usuck" and "lol".

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

For some reason, the thought of someone naming their kid 'ef;b' just cracks me up :lol

Course, that's probably just the goon in me.

[Jaime Tomahawk]

What is wrong with people?

The next thing they will do is name their kids "O rly", "usuck" and "lol".


That will be proof Darwin was wrong and the ones UNfit for survival still successfully breed.

[Khendon Sevon]

Seven!

As in, Sevon! But, not spelled correctly.

It's Sev-on. Sevon.

:)

[Darth Fernal]

Kidding aside, I'm not sure what is so damaging about the name "4real" for it not to qualify as a legit name. True, there will be some teasing, but it's not an expletive. If the rationale is that unique and strange names invite bullying and discrimination, I think there are considerably worse names to have. I'm not crazy about government getting in the way of these personal decisions except in more extreme circumstances.

But I guess it's New Zealand - which I don't know much about.

[Jaime Tomahawk]

But I guess it's New Zealand - which I don't know much about.

New Zealand is a land that has something called "Common Sense" in a remarkable abundance (which our Trans-Tasman comrades like to show off with good justification) as well as a lot of sheep. And they have a lot of roads good for rally driving on. They also like to produce really good movies and beat Hollywood at their own game. The average Kiwi worships Rugby, God and Peter Jackson in that order.

Plus they also can beat y0 backside in Rugby severely with a front row that makes a line blocker in Gridiron look like a midget. And unlike Gridiron line blockers, the All Blacks front row play the whole game and keep on coming at you. Quite a bit like the semi in Duel. If you dare mention Gridiron in Wellington, you will die because only heretics dare even think about even admitting such a boring and obviously inferior game exists. And when you have a group of Maori dock workers around you.... well you see things their way. Or else.

[Yog]

That will be proof Darwin was wrong and the ones UNfit for survival still successfully breed.

Ever watched the comedy Idiocracy? Basically, the way our society works is, in this day and age, we live such comfortable lives. Those who are less well off resource wise actually tend to get more kids, while intellectuals, educated career people etc decide they do not want kids. This leads to a spiral where the human civilization just gets progressively more stupid. If anything, it shows what happens when natural selection is not followed.

[Jaime Tomahawk]

Those who are less well off resource wise actually tend to get more kids, while intellectuals, educated career people etc decide they do not want kids. This leads to a spiral where the human civilization just gets progressively more stupid. If anything, it shows what happens when natural selection is not followed.


Some of the most amazingly stupid people I have met have all been so called "Intellectuals" and people with far too many letters after their name and people with "education". Frankly, there's a hell of a lot of college grads who have been educated beyond their base intelligence and far too many intellectuals who's brains just vomit crap. Half the problems of this world are caused by those people, the other half by rich old men.

And frankly, have a look at the people who usually call their children absurd names. It's not usually Billy Bob and Mary Lou in their trailer. It's Arty and Farty in their executive studio complex.

Moron is a disease not just for the lower classes. It seems to afflict the so called more intelligent with far more frequency.

[Darth Fernal]

Ironically, I think it is considerably more distressing that this event apparently qualifies as global news than that two parents are petitioning to put a number in their child's name. Who should be more embarrassed?

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Eugenics isn't real, guyz! :rolleyes

And 4Real isn't allowed? Then why not call it Forreal!? Or Fourreal. Foreal.

This kid is going to hate his parents anyway.

[Jaime Tomahawk]

Ironically, I think it is considerably more distressing that this event apparently qualifies as global news than that two parents are petitioning to put a number in their child's name. Who should be more embarrassed?


New Zealand is much like Australia - we dont have wars, plague, idiots like Bush in power, gun battles in the streets, Paris Hilton and other moron celebs...... it's a place where even a road accident on the other side of the continent can make news. As news goes, we are damn boring and that's a GOOD thing.

If that's all you hear from us, then you know..... that may actually be something to be proud of, as a society we just don't have the other problems that the rest of the world has. Much like Sweden or Norway, you just don't hear much of them because they have their collective heads screwed on and the odd bit of WTF thence really stands out.

[Darth Fernal]

Ironically, I think it is considerably more distressing that this event apparently qualifies as global news than that two parents are petitioning to put a number in their child's name. Who should be more embarrassed?


New Zealand is much like Australia - we dont have wars, plague, idiots like Bush in power, gun battles in the streets, Paris Hilton and other moron celebs...... it's a place where even a road accident on the other side of the continent can make news. As news goes, we are damn boring and that's a GOOD thing.

If that's all you hear from us, then you know..... that may actually be something to be proud of, as a society we just don't have the other problems that the rest of the world has. Much like Sweden or Norway, you just don't hear much of them because they have their collective heads screwed on and the odd bit of WTF thence really stands out.

I think you're right.

[Laodice Laos]

We are living in an Ayn Rand book. The Man is trying to come down on our babies now! :shakefist

[Itala Marzullo]

Ironically, I think it is considerably more distressing that this event apparently qualifies as global news than that two parents are petitioning to put a number in their child's name. Who should be more embarrassed?


New Zealand is much like Australia - we dont have wars, plague, idiots like Bush in power, gun battles in the streets, Paris Hilton and other moron celebs...... it's a place where even a road accident on the other side of the continent can make news. As news goes, we are damn boring and that's a GOOD thing.

If that's all you hear from us, then you know..... that may actually be something to be proud of, as a society we just don't have the other problems that the rest of the world has. Much like Sweden or Norway, you just don't hear much of them because they have their collective heads screwed on and the odd bit of WTF thence really stands out.

Doesn't Australia go to war whenever the English tell you to?

[Mitch]

If I have a son, I'd like to name him Rudyard, but, "Rudy de la Guardia" just sounds horrible.

[Jaime Tomahawk]

Doesn't Australia go to war whenever the English tell you to?

Oh FFS... NO. Lizzy might be Queen, but we don't play God save the Queen anymore.

And WW1 and WW2 dont count in the above statement.

[Clea Darkrunner]

An older example of stupid names:

Lear, who was famous for personal-sized jet aircraft, named his daughter......

Chanda

Now THAT's a kid who was entitled to hate her parents.

[Morgan Evanar]

Well, in the late 90s Acclaim was trying to get someone to name their kid Turok for money. :x

I think that was ruled illegal by the British Goverment.

[Itala Marzullo]

Doesn't Australia go to war whenever the English tell you to?

Oh FFS... NO. Lizzy might be Queen, but we don't play God save the Queen anymore.

And WW1 and WW2 dont count in the above statement.

What about the second Iraq war? o_O

[Jaime Tomahawk]

Doesn't Australia go to war whenever the English tell you to?

Oh FFS... NO. Lizzy might be Queen, but we don't play God save the Queen anymore.

And WW1 and WW2 dont count in the above statement.

What about the second Iraq war? o_O

Who said the public wanted anything to do with that stupidity and who said it was anythign to do with Britain? WE didnt want a fracking bar of that absurd stupidity. The squirt who lets Bush ream his date however is a different problem. And the so called offering he gave was so minor he may as well have not given anything.

But at least Howard has some good points to offset his incredible subservice to Bush and we have an excuse for voting him back.

[Itala Marzullo]

Oh I'm sure you didn't, like most of the American people didn't, but I see it as a chain reaction when it comes to the militaries.

USA>England>Australia

It's the only explanation as to why Australia would even bother with such a godfosaken place.

[Morgan Evanar]

Oh I'm sure you didn't, like most of the American people didn't, but I see it as a chain reaction when it comes to the militaries.

USA>England>Australia

It's the only explanation as to why Australia would even bother with such a godfosaken place.Maybe because the Aussie Military are some of the best at operating in climates like Iraq?

Hijack stops here.

Really, people being dumb like this shouldn't be news. I want to give my future offspring slightly unusual names but only because I think most mainstream names are a bit boring.

[Yog]

Really, people being dumb like this shouldn't be news. I want to give my future offspring slightly unusual names but only because I think most mainstream names are a bit boring.

There is a difference between slightly unusual name and trying to name your kid "h4x0r" and "1337" though. I think it's ok with unusual names as long as it's a real name.

[Itala Marzullo]

Oh I'm sure you didn't, like most of the American people didn't, but I see it as a chain reaction when it comes to the militaries.

USA>England>Australia

It's the only explanation as to why Australia would even bother with such a godfosaken place.Maybe because the Aussie Military are some of the best at operating in climates like Iraq?

Hijack stops here.

Really, people being dumb like this shouldn't be news. I want to give my future offspring slightly unusual names but only because I think most mainstream names are a bit boring.

There is nothing slightly about "4Real", it sounds like something a Star Wars droid would be named, that kid is going to hate his parents because of the same "non-mainstream" attitude they love so much. Quite ironic, like a child who is very rebellious when the parents are too strict.

[Morgan Evanar]

My sister was almost named Chani (see Dune) and it was really more accurate than her compromise of a name she got. I don't think I'd go quite that far. I'm not, for example, going to name a daughter Milivikal. That would be waaaaaaaay messed up.

[Itala Marzullo]

Thanks, that's what I'm talking about.

Chani sounds catchy and like a real name. Nothing wrong with naming your kid Luke, Leia (the Norway (?) royalty even named a child that) or Han, but naming your kid Chewbacca would be outrageous, except for a pet.

[Wyl Staedtler]

The neighbors down the street have two daughters named Paris and Sweden, and a little boy called Cowboy. :(

And when my dad was growing up he had a buddy named Sterling. Which isn't all that unusual except that his last name was Silva. >_<

[Laodice Laos]

Uh, don't talk lady. If you hadn't come to your senses your kid would be introducing himself as Jag or Branagh. FYI, not cool. ;)

As someone who didn't quite manage to escape a "mildly unusual" name, I implore all future parents to please pay homage to Nancy Reagan and JUST SAY NO.

[Itala Marzullo]

The neighbors down the street have two daughters named Paris and Sweden, and a little boy called Cowboy. :(

And when my dad was growing up he had a buddy named Sterling. Which isn't all that unusual except that his last name was Silva. >_<

Yeah though not as weird as 4Real, but cross-language names can be weird too, specially when they purposedly screw up the spelling.

For example, my name "Giuliano" is the Italian version of "Julian" right? I've met some people named "Yuliano" like some crazy Russian scientists got ahold of it. I've also seen "Yoni" (Johnny).

Though I guess anything like "Toby Ramirez" is caused more by immigrant assimilation than anything.

[Morgan Evanar]

Thanks, that's what I'm talking about.

Chani sounds catchy and like a real name. Nothing wrong with naming your kid Luke, Leia (the Norway (?) royalty even named a child that) or Han, but naming your kid Chewbacca would be outrageous, except for a pet.Yeah, if I had a big Golden Retriever I might name it Chewie. That would be pretty cool.

[Smitty]

I knew of a family once who named their two sons "City" and "Town" because their last name was "Hall."

[Morgan Evanar]

That is evil. If they grow up to be mass murderers they can blame their parents and everyone would believe them.

[Leten Snat]

I'm just trying to picture how bad that kid would get it.. Picture this...

" Hi i'm here to pick up my order "

<i> " Alright can you give me your name? "</i>

" 4real "

<i>" Yes I really need your name "</i>

" 4real "

<i>" Well I can't give you your order if you don't give me your name!"</i>

"Dammit! 4real is my name!"

<i>"Oh"</i>

[Yog]

Since the parents could not name their kid "4Real", they decided to name him "Superman"...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6937327.stm

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Now, this is just sad. What is going on in New Zealand!?


Officials in New Zealand have been involved in similar disputes before.
In the past they have had to intervene to stop parents naming their offspring Satan and Adolf Hitler.<!-- E BO -->

[Morgan Evanar]

I'm sure this happens everywhere, but it was probably a slow news day.

Also, Kiwis are crazy.

[Cat X]

Now, this is just sad. What is going on in New Zealand!?

Most likely hippie or idiot imports and not true Kiwis


I'm sure this happens everywhere, but it was probably a slow news day.

Also, Kiwis are crazy.

As said before, if your country is so settled and peaceful that one or two idiots naming kids funny makes news...... that's actually a really good thing. New Zealand really is one of the best places on earth.

[Jedieb]

The parents should be allowed to name their child whatever they want, it's their child. They'll probably just end up spelling out the 4. I think they should name the kids MiparhentsRmorons. It'll make all of their lives much easier.

[JediBeldarine]

That's almost pathetically sad. Parents certainly have the right to name their children whatever they want, but children have the right to hate their parents with an intensity that's almost holy as well.

Why would you do that to a child? Saddle them with names that carry negative connotations from birth because you secretly hate them?

You know, when I was teaching high school... my first year I had a student whose name was "Malarea." You know the only pronunciation that popped into my head? Malaria, like the disease. The poor girl sighed a sigh of long suffering and said "No, ma'am, it's Mallory."

Seriously? How do you get Mallory from Malarea? You know that girl's been called Malaria since kindergarten. She's probably been teased mercilessly all in the name of spelling a common-place name "cute." Good job on that one, parents.

I don't know, maybe my ideas are too darwinian... but I think that anyone who names their child something idiotic like Superman, Apple or Dweezil should be flogged to show them how much their child will suffer in life. Also, anyone who intentionally misspells common names (such as Malarea for Mallory, Kaytlain for Caitlin, Shellsea for Chelsea, Mickynzie for Mackenzie) should suffer the same fate.

.... poor kids.....

[JMK]

Why make a mockery of your child's existence? These parents need some serious help. They seemed to be intent on bending the norms somehow, and it's going to come at the expense of their child. Well done morons.

[Zem-El Vymes]

My first son will be named Sue.

[Dae Jinn]

One of my friends from HS named her son Hayden Lucas, but spelt it Heighdyn or something incredibly weird. :s

[Park Kraken]

I've thought about naming my son or daughters after historically famous military leaders.

A boy could be named Horatio, Erwin, Joseph, while a girl may be named Joan, or Jane, etc.

[Nathanial K'cansce]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/oukoe_uk_china_language

Parents in China want to name their kid '@', saying in their language, it is translated to 'love him'. They'll pronounce it 'ai ti.'

I think I'm ok with symbols, thankyouverymuchprince.

[Atreyu]

Wow, were these parents for real?

(hahahaha i'm funny :) :lol)

Seriously, pretty lame. I suppose it'll only be a matter of time before someone names their kid ': )' or something.


Also, anyone who intentionally misspells common names (such as Malarea for Mallory, Kaytlain for Caitlin, Shellsea for Chelsea, Mickynzie for Mackenzie) should suffer the same fate.

^ QFT - my Mum is a school teacher and has seen heaps of kids with weird spellings like this (like Blayke instead of Blake) - it's amazing what parents call their kids these days.

Although they're not on my horizon, I hope to give my kids the most blandest names possible (William, Jane, Christopher, Scott, Robert, Richard, Sue etc) - though admittedly it's be pretty cool to have daughter called James ...

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Man I've wanted to name a daughter James forever. :D But if I do it now people might think I've called her that after a RPing character of mine!

[Zeke]

It seems to be a favorite name of yours, so go for it. :)

I joke that if I ever have kids, and the wife can't come up with a good name, I'm going to the comic shop, buying the first Marvel comic I see, and taking the name of the first character I see who matches the child's gender. So I have a son, go buy a comic, open it up, and there's Iron Man! My son is now "Tony" (not Iron Man, for the love of God). Say I have a daughter, and I go pick up the Avengers. Hi Ms. Marvel, you just named my daughter "Carol". Bless the Marvel Heroes' simple, everyday names. :)

Naturally if the wife found out I'd get murdered, so I'm not even considering using that plan (except as a joke to make people crazy). I'm to come up with a good name on my own, and so far it's pretty rough. I'd be so nervous to name a child. They have to carry that name, and whatever meanings may be attached to it, through their whole lives. It looks like such an insanely huge responsibility to me.