Chris Benoit Murder/Suicide

[Miranda Tarkin]

Some of you know I'm a huge wrestling fan ... well, we lost a wrestler to unknown circumstances, as well as his entire family :(

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/benoitdead

I will miss you Chris Benoit :cry

[Itala Marzullo]

What!!!!!!

He and his whole family!!!!!


It's a sick joke!!!!

Edit - It's being investigated as a possible homicide, what kind of scumbag would murder a beloved wrestler!!!!??!

[Rutabaga]

I'm not a wrestling fan at all, but this is still extraordinarily tragic news. Very sad. :(

[Ambrose Braeden]

wow...only 40 years old...this is a tragedy

[Alexia Marzullo]

It's crazy isn't it? My husband is watching the tribute now. :'(
I hope whoever or whatever is responsible is found
Prayers to his family and friends

[Itala Marzullo]

It's crazy isn't it? My husband is watching the tribute now. :'(
I hope whoever or whatever is responsible is found
Prayers to his family and friends

It hasn't sunk in yet. Whoever has done this must fry or rot in a cell forever.

[Zem-El Vymes]

Bon Chance, Canadian Crippler. I'll miss you and your freakishly huge traps / small legs.

[Hartus Kenobi]

Definitely sad. I hope it's not what I think it is.

[Morgan Evanar]

I'm not a big wrestling fan but when I did watch I always enjoyed his matches. :(

[Zem-El Vymes]

Da Crippler Crossface!

[Alexia Marzullo]

Definitely sad. I hope it's not what I think it is.

What do you think it is?

All they have said so far is that is it being investigated as a homicide and that he was not shot.

[Tiranna Marzullo]

Definitely sad. I hope it's not what I think it is.

What do you think it is?

All they have said so far is that is it being investigated as a homicide and that he was not shot.

People are probably thinking murder/suicide since it's a huge coincidence that he got the PayPerView off because of "personal reasons" but I hope it isn't, I just don't see why Benoit would, but I didn't know the man personally so I can't say. I mean, look at Phil Hartman, a funny guy and nobody saw his murder coming, hope the wife wasn't nuts or anything like that.

[Alexia Marzullo]

*shrugs* I don't know... one report I read said that he got the PPV off because of family illness, something about his family was coughing off blood. I am not sure what website I read that from, so I don't know how reliable it is.

[Darth Fernal]

Definitely sad. I hope it's not what I think it is.

What do you think it is?

All they have said so far is that is it being investigated as a homicide and that he was not shot.
It's also being investigated as a murder/suicide. Which is why for the time being I'm refraining from saying "RIP _______" or commenting on the appropriateness of a televised WWE tribute until I know more. All I can say for certain for now is that this is horrible and I feel sorry for what the entire family must've gone through leading up to this.

[Itala Marzullo]

Definitely sad. I hope it's not what I think it is.

What do you think it is?

All they have said so far is that is it being investigated as a homicide and that he was not shot.
It's also being investigated as a murder/suicide. Which is why for the time being I'm refraining from saying "RIP _______" or commenting on the appropriateness of a televised WWE tribute until I know more. All I can say for certain for now is that this is horrible and I feel sorry for what the entire family must've gone through leading up to this.

This from the AP off wikipedia.:


Detective Bo Turner of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department told television station WAGA-TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAGA-TV) that the case was being treated as a murder-suicide (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder-suicide), and the station reported that investigators believe that Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend, then killed himself on Monday. <sup id="_ref-76" class="reference">[87] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit#_note-76)</sup> At present officials continue to investigate and autopsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy) results are expected on June 26 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_26).
Good thing I didn't say RIP just yet. It's still sad and tragic though, what a shame.

[JMK]

Very sad, no matter what happened. Add another one to the long list of pro wrestlers who have died because of foul play, steroid/drug abuse, other ailments due to their profession and suicide.

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

okay that is a shocking if it is true. The reason I did this thread is that I seriously doubted Vince would have cancelled RAW, break storyline and all that if Chris was the perpetrator of foul play

[Itala Marzullo]

okay that is a shocking if it is true. The reason I did this thread is that I seriously doubted Vince would have cancelled RAW, break storyline and all that if Chris was the perpetrator of foul play


It's the natural thing to do, I'm pretty sure Vince could have never imagined something like this would happen either. Maybe they were set up to appear as a murder/suicide, who knows? Detectives should be able to determine that though, unless the killer was slick and left the house a day later to make it seem like a murder/suicide, still, Benoit's body would show signs of struggle, retrain marks and whatnot. Maybe the wife cheated on him, we'll find out today.

All of that conspiracy-talking still doesn't add up the fact that he got the PPV off, it's too much of a coincidence, so far all of the evidence points to Benoit setting this up.

[Matthias Marzullo]

Found this a few minutes ago...

http://www.startribune.com/503/story/1268408.html

[Miranda Tarkin]

I edited the title of this thread because :mad It's more or less official now

[Itala Marzullo]

Unbelievable.

Honestly, WHO saw this coming?!

The human mind is amazing, cruel and just totally unpredictable, but what I want to know is: WHAT CAUSED THIS?

..and can steroids really do this to you?

[Darth Fernal]

I think a lot of things contribute. Probably among the most powerful is the price of celebrity, which is particularly dangerous for those that are not psychologically prepared for it. I imagine it is particularly taxing on family life.
Aside from that, I'm sure he and his family had to go through a lot of the crap the rest of us have to deal with from time to time. I am not a fan of the WWE and what it has come to represent, but this type of action is not necessarily inherent or connected to the fact that he's a wrestler.

[Tiranna Marzullo]

I think a lot of things contribute. Probably among the most powerful is the price of celebrity, which is particularly dangerous for those that are not psychologically prepared for it. I imagine it is particularly taxing on family life.
Aside from that, I'm sure he and his family had to go through a lot of the crap the rest of us have to deal with from time to time. I am not a fan of the WWE and what it has come to represent, but this type of action is not necessarily inherent or connected to the fact that he's a wrestler.

Right, murder/suicide is not exclusive to wrestlers and this is the first time a WWE celeb does something like this.

[Alexia Marzullo]

I am sticking with RIP Chris, Nancy and Daniel - no matter what the true is

[Yog]

WWE official: Hey guys... Chris died.... apparently he killed his wife and son, then hung himself"

"OMG, what should we do?"

WWE official: "Lets cancel Monday Night Raw and air a hastily put together 3 hour Tribute to Chris."

"But didnt he just kill his famil.."

WWE official: "Man, stop pointing out the negatives.... lets honor his memory"




:rolleyes

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

Um ... from what I heard, WWE didn't know it was investigated as a murder. Once they found out, they pulled all of his merchandise off WWE.com and Vince himself is issuing an apology tonight on ECW

[Itala Marzullo]

I am sticking with RIP Chris, Nancy and Daniel - no matter what the true is

How's MIkey taking this?

[Itala Marzullo]

During a press conference Tuesday, June 26 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_26), Fayette County district attorney (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_attorney) Scott Ballard confirmed that Chris Benoit had murdered his wife and son. His wife was bound at the wrists and feet, while there were no signs of restraint on his son, both died of asphyxiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asphyxiation). It is reported that his wife died on Friday, his son died on Saturday, and Benoit killed himself later Saturday evening or early Sunday morning. Benoit's body was found dead of asphyxiation hanging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging) by the cord of a weight machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_machine) in his basement. It was also reported that there was a Bible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible) by both Nancy and Daniel's bodies

SICK! The man must have been high on something.

[Darth Fernal]

Jeez, for it to have been drawn out over days like that... must've been very hard on everyone. I don't think so highly of professional wrestlers that I call this a "tragedy" in the classic sense, but I can't help but even feel pity for what Chris Benoit must've gone through after he did what he did. I don't even want to think about what terror his son was subjected to. The wife probably had it the easiest.

[Yog]

Um ... from what I heard, WWE didn't know it was investigated as a murder. Once they found out, they pulled all of his merchandise off WWE.com and Vince himself is issuing an apology tonight on ECW

Except by the time they were airing that, it had been plastered all over the news how this was a possible murder / suicide. In fact, it was the WWE alerting the police to check upon his family after receiving several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning.

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

Well, I think at that point they had no choice but to air it. USA would have had nothing and they sent everyone home once they canceled it at 5pm.

It's a crappy situation and I honestly don't think WWE had any malice involved. Vince lost way too much money, especially after a PPV, and broke character to speak himself which is taboo for the business.

but that's me :)

[Parsideon Denix]

I feel terrible for the family. Chris was one of my favorite wrestlers back in the day. This is terrible.

[Alexia Marzullo]

He is upset and in shock, I haven't talked to him about it though...

[Itala Marzullo]

I wonder if they'll reveal what the text messages said.

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

They did actually ...

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/chrisbenoittimeline

[Dasquian Belargic]

That afternoon, Benoit contacted WWE to inform them that his wife and child were ill, and that he would not be able to attend the show.

This is sick :(

[Matthias Marzullo]

Just giving the address...

[Lilaena De'Ville]

This is sick and twisted. I feel sorry for the wife and kid but really? No sympathy for a murdering sonofabith.

[Itala Marzullo]

Nobody has any theories on WHY he did this, which is driving me insane!

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

Well, it was reported 2 years ago that his wife wanted a divorce. Supposedly over domestic problems ... IE violence ... I wonder if she was trying to leave him :\

But that is just my theory

[Darth Fernal]

Nobody has any theories on WHY he did this, which is driving me insane!
I don't think it's worth thinking about that. It presumes that what he did could be justified to some degree. I mean, yeah, maybe some people can be persuaded that it was a crime of passion against the wife... but what could the son have possibly done that could help shed any light on this?

[Itala Marzullo]

I wouldn't dare justify the death of a little boy, dude. I'm just trying to put two and two together, this is just as bad as if Bret Hart had done it, it's crushing.

[Rutabaga]

This is sick and twisted. I feel sorry for the wife and kid but really? No sympathy for a murdering sonofabith.

Harsh, but basically my feelings as well. It's how I always feel at stories like this...come on, if you want to off yourself, fine, but don't take innocent people along with you.

Very, very sick and sad situation. :(

[Park Kraken]

I was very shocked and saddened when I learned about this. The more I knew, the more saddened I became.

One possible theory about why he did this revolves around steriod/substance abuse, IMO. All it would've taken is an arguement, perhaps again revolving around divorce/custody fight, for Benoit to go off the deep end and suffocate his wife and son. Some time would've passed before the steriods wore off, then he hung himself out of grief for what he had done.

IMO, at least a likely scenario for what happened.

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

There wasn't any found at the house and Benoit has passed all the random drug testing.

Granted, toxicology still needs to be seen so maybe ... but I seriously doubt it personally.

[Darth Fernal]

I was very shocked and saddened when I learned about this. The more I knew, the more saddened I became.

One possible theory about why he did this revolves around steriod/substance abuse, IMO. All it would've taken is an arguement, perhaps again revolving around divorce/custody fight, for Benoit to go off the deep end and suffocate his wife and son. Some time would've passed before the steriods wore off, then he hung himself out of grief for what he had done.

IMO, at least a likely scenario for what happened.
According to the reports, he strangled his son the day after he killed his wife. He was his house for about a full day, wondering what he should do to his son, who he bound.

I think there were much deeper psychological issues than just drug use.

[Rutabaga]

There wasn't any found at the house and Benoit has passed all the random drug testing.

Granted, toxicology still needs to be seen so maybe ... but I seriously doubt it personally.

I thought I'd read that anabolic steroids were found at the house....

Even so, though, I think there's something beyond 'roid rage, I don't think the explanation--if there even IS an explanation--isn't that simple.

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

Prescription steroids were found. that could mean anything!

But I agree that there are some crazy psychology issues here and I really don't want to attempt to understand what happened to cause a person to do that he did. too morbid besides my earlier thought ...

[Jedi Master Carr]

He was subscribed steroids. Also those test can be beat. There are ways to mask it and only the Olympics and the NFL have caught up to those masks. But who knows if new ones have popped up. If steroids have anything to do with it ? I don't know I think they should be made illegal and if anybody is found with them punish them the same as if he or she had heroin or cocaine.

[Morgan Evanar]

I really don't think this had anything to do with drug use and everything to do with a man with deep mental issues that did exactly the wrong things. What a horrible person.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

'Roid rage would, if I understand it correctly, be likely if he had beaten his wife and son to death.

He killed them methodically over a period of at least two days, placing Bibles at their feet. Not 'roid rage.

Plus I heard a report he had been injecting his son with human growth hormone, though I do not know if that is confirmed.

[Miranda Tarkin]

There might be something to that since it has been released that his son was suffering from Fragile Syndrome X

http://www.fragilex.org/html/what.htm

Speculation is that he and his wife were arguing over his care and Benoit wasn't taking it very well. :\

[Itala Marzullo]

There might be something to that since it has been released that his son was suffering from Fragile Syndrome X

http://www.fragilex.org/html/what.htm

Speculation is that he and his wife were arguing over his care and Benoit wasn't taking it very well. :\

If that's the case, that would be the most ridiculous reason to kill your family.

[Miranda Tarkin]

:rolleyes

No, that is the possible explanation for his mental break. It was his mental capacity, or lack thereof, that would have caused him to kill his family

edit - and it's safe to say that there is no good reason to murder their family anyway

[Itala Marzullo]

:rolleyes

No, that is the possible explanation for his mental break. It was his mental capacity, or lack thereof, that would have caused him to kill his family

edit - and it's safe to say that there is no good reason to murder their family anyway

If somehow I found myself in a situation where my family was going to die anyway by a group of murderers and such I'd rather give them poison before letting them have their way with them, but that's just me.

As far as the benoit saga goes, there's another twist to the tale:


On June 28, FOXNews.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News) reported that news of Nancy Gaus' death was posted on the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia) 14 hours, 29 minutes before the police reportedly discovered the bodies. The information was posted to the site on Monday at 12:01 a.m. EDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Daylight_Time), whereas Fayette County police found the bodies Monday at 2:30 p.m. EDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Daylight_Time). The IP address was traced to Stamford, Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamford%2C_Connecticut), the location of WWE headquarters.

Safe to say that the crap is going to hit the fan now.

[JMK]

That is awfully strange. It stinks to high heaven in fact. You're right, the crap is going to hit the fan now...

[Darth Fernal]

On June 28, FOXNews.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News) reported that news of Nancy Gaus' death was posted on the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia) 14 hours, 29 minutes before the police reportedly discovered the bodies. The information was posted to the site on Monday at 12:01 a.m. EDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Daylight_Time), whereas Fayette County police found the bodies Monday at 2:30 p.m. EDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Daylight_Time). The IP address was traced to Stamford, Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamford%2C_Connecticut), the location of WWE headquarters.

My goodness. That is horrible. Are they certain this is true?

[Itala Marzullo]

OMG, could it be?

Could it be that thiswhole thing is a job?!

[Jaime Tomahawk]

On June 28, FOXNews.com (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News) reported that news of Nancy Gaus' death was posted on the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia) 14 hours, 29 minutes before the police reportedly discovered the bodies. The information was posted to the site on Monday at 12:01 a.m. EDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Daylight_Time), whereas Fayette County police found the bodies Monday at 2:30 p.m. EDT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Daylight_Time). The IP address was traced to Stamford, Connecticut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamford%2C_Connecticut), the location of WWE headquarters.

My goodness. That is horrible. Are they certain this is true?

From the fact it's gotten onto reputable news sources that check themselves before publishing, yes I would say it's true.

Now this could be very interesting indeed.

[JMK]

OMG, could it be?

Could it be that thiswhole thing is a job?!

Can you imagine if this entire thing was an elaborate WWE hoax? How horrid and in bad taste would that be? Of course the chances of that are about .01%, but still...doesn't this just stink like hot, rotting garbage?

[Park Kraken]

OMG, could it be?

Could it be that thiswhole thing is a job?!

Can you imagine if this entire thing was an elaborate WWE hoax? How horrid and in bad taste would that be? Of course the chances of that are about .01%, but still...doesn't this just stink like hot, rotting garbage?

Actually I believe the chance is a little higher than 0.01%. After all, I believe they had real firefighters respond to the Vince limo explosion, even though that storyline was revealed to a hoax. Although that was a very obvious hoax to those who aren't gullibe (like me :D). (Although I do wonder who "did it" for the storyline).

More than likely, IMO, Chris Benoit told someone that his wife had died for other reasons, and that party posted the information online and hasn't come forward yet.

[Morgan Evanar]

OMG, could it be?

Could it be that thiswhole thing is a job?!

Can you imagine if this entire thing was an elaborate WWE hoax? How horrid and in bad taste would that be? Of course the chances of that are about .01%, but still...doesn't this just stink like hot, rotting garbage?It's not. They've never contacted the mainstream media for a storyline.


Actually I believe the chance is a little higher than 0.01%. After all, I believe they had real firefighters respond to the Vince limo explosion, even though that storyline was revealed to a hoax. Although that was a very obvious hoax to those who aren't gullibe (like me ). (Although I do wonder who "did it" for the storyline).
For safety reasons. Any time something explodes, you need to have a fire crew on standby, so of course it was actual firefighters. What, you want a bunch of amateurs fighting a car fire?

Sorry, this isn't a hoax. :(