The Sith Order

[Ramoth Ocran]

I would like to bring something before the entire board. Currently, the Sith Order is extremely small and there are hardly enough active roleplayers in the Sith Order to be able to effectively train new recruits. My character, Ramoth Ocran for example, is stuck in his story because there are not enough Sith masters to be able to take him on as an apprentice. I would like to petition that something be done to allow more people to be trained be it through NPC's or other actions. What say you?

[Dasquian Belargic]

I can't say that I support people being trained by NPCs. There are characters out there, who aren't members who TSO but are Sith nonetheless, who may be available to train others.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I don't support people being trained by NPCs either (or by another character that you RP).

I don't know what to tell you about the Sith Order, as only the members know its inner workings and what is going on with it. However if it seems to be abandoned completely, someone might want to start a new Sith group.

[Bloodcrest]

Aye, but you still need someone with the Force experience to start said group...which is the problem to begin with. If we had someone capable of starting a new Sith group, then they would be able to train others already.

I'm just saying that IF the dark side of the Force is lacking in avatars can we come up with a solution that will allow more darksiders?

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Ah ha, I see the dilemma!

Ok, under the rules - to start a new group you must have five distinct roleplayers for the group.

If there are five who wish to start a new sith group, even if you have no one of 'skill' among you, gather them and post to this thread. We'll figure out a way to make it work. :) One time only special circumstances.

[Karl Valten]

Maybe RP out the accuisition of a holocron, I guess technically that would be an NPC of sorts, but at least it gets you going in a direction.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

The staff would have to approve or deny any such plans, if five people are willing and able and want to create a new group.

What we'd like to see are people who want to commit to a new group before everyone starts thinking hypothetically about what might be done to help them. :)

[Bloodcrest]

I'm obviously one with my Ramoth Ocran character

[Zereth Lancer]

The Sith Order is very dead. Why? Because all it's members, save me, have disapeared- some with notices and others without. We had a plan set up, but due to lack of members such plans are irrelevent. Basically, we got half-way through this plan, which was the invasion of darksider Alexia Sturkov (roleplayed by myself) who routed the sith and took control of the sith temple on Korriban. The Sith relocated on Corellia, and then everyone disapeared. Baralai, Ramoth, and Ezra Na'chtion almost began a storyline of their own, but Baralai, as always, disapeared and hasn't been seen since.

TSO is dead. I don't think we can ressurrected it this time. I've managed to bring it around, sometimes with the help of others or on my own, to life, but it just dies again. Strangely, I find this the case on many SW roleplaying boards I've either roleplayed on or looked through. The sith group always seems to die out. I really cannot say why, but it just happens. A curse, perhaps? Worse ideas have been theorized.

As for the creation of a new sith-esque group, well, I think it's a grand idea, or a bad one. It could go either way. Zereth, though, could be one of those five base members to form this group. Although his sense of honor demands he stick with the sith, he would be able to see the decay and degeneration of the Sith Order, and leave. I have no idea how these five base sith would meet up and start the motion to create an order of sith, but I'd be all for it. As for a holocron: Why not battle our way back into the Sith Temple on Korriban and take TSO's holocron? I don't know if we roleplayed anything happening with the Holocron during the Invasion. I know I didn't, but Jorshal might have. If he didn't, then the library would have likely locked down and be sealed, and Zereth would be able to get at it. Of course, we'd need Lady Vader's consent for stealing such an valuable object as a holocron.

*shrug*

[Lilaena De'Ville]

I would write off everything about TSO and start from scratch.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I agree with LD. I'd really like to see someone come up with something fresh and original. The further the new idea is from TSO, the more likely it is to be appealing and succeed - simply because TSO has been done to death, and people obviously want a new kind of experience from their Sith group.

[Dusk]

Looks good to me. I've just registered a new character who I'd like to be Sith-esque, so count me in. I know I'm not exactly an established Rper here, but I'd like to get stuck in with something.

[Blade Bacquin]

Well I have had a few Ideas in the past involving new ideas for sith and Jedi groups. Not that I have ever wanted to start any there just ideas I had if you like any of them you may take them if you like. I am not very well versed in the concept that was behind TSO so they may be the same exact Idea I'm not sure.

Also i would love to help with a new group but currently my active sith Blade Ice and his master follow the rule of two.

1. First Idea is sort of base off what I already do with this character and my master does. We follow the dark side of the force more as a relegion then a group. The darkside guides us through are lives and we do it's bidding it doesn't do ares. Anyway to tweak this Idea more towards the group spectrum. You follow the faith dictated by the force wich commands you to claim holy war on the non believers. Which could be any and every group in existance on this board or inviduals even. You train as your relegion dictates and only train those who accept it as there faith. It's more a strict sith group then normal.

(BTW Blade follows this faith very loosely even though his master beats him over hte head with a stick everytime he disobeys.)

2. This Idea I am not sure if it is against any of the rules or not (if it is disregard it). Has it's miltant Ideals of the sith. Attack and conquer the galaxy. It would deal more wityh destroying rebels and imperials then anything else. It would also bring back the sith into fleet battle (this is the part I am not sure about I can't remember if force user fleets where totally canned by the rules or if allt he force groups just lost interest in them I can't remember.). But this Ideal is based that the group wants control and then will be able to achieve it and from there force everyone into there service.

3 the third Idea combines the two which I sorta liek the concept of but I really not sure if it could work or even if it would be possible to do. A a finatic relegious group (sith) start to rise on a planet. Amassing arms and a fleet to wage a holy war on the galaxy. They are strict ont here beliefs and wish to force those beliefs on everyone and those who refuse it will perish. This would add botha another force user group/fleet group to the mix something this board hasn't seen in well a long time. Although we do have the Inquiserate witch I see could be the main enemy of this group.

Most of these Idea are just vague and unfinished because well I never really had any plans to ever use them. But I like the Idea of relegious zialots out to conquer the galaxy and trying to force there beliefs on others. I would love to see another Sith Empire (not the group that was formely part of fans but the sith empire that once rivaled the old republic). Any of these Ideas I see starting on the fringe worlds of the outer rim and spreading while the empire is busy dealing with the rebels. mainly they would attack the empire to them being the primary threat at the moment . (not that the rebels aren't a threat I am just basing this off realism and by all realism standards the empire does control the majority of the galaxy therefore they would be seen as the stronger even though that might not be true by rp standards.).

I could even see such a group making deals witht he rebels so the empire has to fight a two front war. Then being sith double cross the rebels in the end of course. Then I'm just getting ahead of myself.

Although if you need or want any help with this or any other sith Idea I'm always around and glad to help. However I doubt I will have much involvement in the group unless there is a change of plans in my storyline which could also happen it has already happened a few times. lol

[Bloodcrest]

There is a possible storyline in the making. We're thinking it up and getting the details worked out before we post it so hold on everyone :P From what I know about it (which isn't much) I'd say it is fairly original...definitely doesn't seem to resemble the Sith Order from what I've seen. I'd say just be patient for a day or two, the mastermind shall reveal his hand soon. ;)

[Aria Sihin]

I would gladly lend my services in this new group considering Aria is a Sith Master Tho considering this characters history, leaning towards option 1.

[Vega Van-Derveld]

I like the sound of idea #1 too. Vega has a fanatical, zealous side to his personality that would make him well-suited to that kind of group.

[Dusk]

Weyhey, so does that make 5 then? >.>

[Lilaena De'Ville]

There is, of course, nothing to stop more than one darkside group from being formed.

However, don't expect to get the opportunity to pay for hosting for a forum on Sw-Fans like TSO does. I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying don't expect it. Depending on the group/s and how your planning goes something might be worked out.

[Dasquian Belargic]

TSO is paid up for the rest of the year, and as far as I understand Zereth footed the bill, so it should be within his rights to use the space for another group if he so chooses - correct? TSO's current threads could just be placed into an archive forum.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Perhaps, but this is something better discussed after such a group has formed, and probably in private. ;)

[Blade Bacquin]

Well If Aria desides to stay in I go where she goes. :)

so as it stands there is a possibility of five.

However Me and Aria are not a sure thing we have to see the final storyline Idea first before we can be casted as sure thing. The reason has to do with IC Ideals of both blade and aria not an OOC reason. :)

[Setzer Dayne]

Well here's the character who I'd like to get into this. (I posted as Dusk beforehand) Seems like everyone else interested so far already has links with the Sith, so I'm having trouble thinking up how to get Setzer involved with it. Perhaps a chancy aquisition of a holocron or something? Then the others could show him what's going on with it and such? I don't know really. Any help? Lol.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Holocrons are not something that we allow, generally, as an individual tool. They are simply too rare and valuable for individual characters to find them laying around.

[Miranda Tarkin]

As Blade said, I am waiting on hearing what the consensus is. Option 1 is more doable with Aria and it seems Vega would be interested as well. So we would have 3 high ranking Sithies to help with training etc... The other options are just not conducive to Aria's IC personality :)

[Dasquian Belargic]

If we do come together, it would be cool to have a galaxy-wide event be the catalyst for it... more thoughts on that from me later.

[Blade Bacquin]

Blade and Vega meet agian? Oh crap not again. :p lol

[Dasquian Belargic]

I was going to say it's a totally different Vega, but in many ways his personality is very much like TSE-era Vega... lucky Blade ;)

[Dasquian Belargic]

ANYWAY, what does everyone else think about Option #1?

Dale, Blade... I am just looking for an excuse to do something like The Church of the Unspoken again. I enjoyed that too much ^_^;

[Setzer Dayne]

Option 1 looks good to me. If I'm honest I'm up for anything really lol. It'll be good to see what Bloodcrest has thought up too

[Blade Bacquin]

Well I like option 1. lol

Still got to wait and see what Blood crest Idea is. Then we can go from there.

So far the sith that have posted some intrest in a new sith group is as follows.

Aria Sihin - Sith Master
Blade Ice - Sith lord
Vega Van-Derveld - Sith knight (on the verge of being a lord)
Zereth Lancer - Sith Knight
Ramoth Ocran - Sith Apprentice
Setzer Dayne - Sith Apprentice (when he starts up.)

(this is just a list to keep track of who has all expressed interest. If I have your name or rank wrong Just list it and I will add it. If I missed your name in list also do the same and I will add it.)

Also I am currently working my mind around option one to see if I can come with a more difintive Idea for this option so it isn't as Vague as the one I posted. If you have some suggestions or Ideas you can PM them to me.

One thing I would like to know no matter what type of group comes out of this is what type of ranking system is more prefered.

3 tier (example is below)
Apprentice - Knight - Master

4 tier (example is below)
Apprentice - Knight - Lord - Master

5 tier (example is below)
Apprentice - Warrior - Knight - Lord -Master

18 tier (eample is below)
I am weak - a little stronger - Apprentice - I made it to Level 2 -Are we there yet -Warrior - I can't beleave it Level 3 - Taste like chicken - Knight - Level 4 - I can finally train people? - Lord - I finally made it to Level 5 - I can't believe i'm still alive - Master - I'm almost a god - Godmoding but I am a god - Uberness (this is my attempt at a joke I know it sucks but please pretend it was funny so not to hurt my feelings. lol)

[Setzer Dayne]

Just a thought here. Does the new group have to be strictly Sith? Seeing as TSO has collapsed, perhaps the characters that were linked with it will feel kind of resentful, and so maybe will want to seperate themselves from TSO completely, perhaps with a new name for the group, as opposed to something like "The New Sith Order". I guess what I'm trying to say is will the new group be a ressurection of the Sith, or a group that uses the old teachings to spawn their own new and unique group that doesn't come under the title of "Sith"?

[Blade Bacquin]

My guess is what ever group is formed they will base there teachings off of the Sith. As for the group name well it is still a little early to tell. If I ahd to guess though at least if option one is in place the group name will not involve Sith in the title. Main reason if we go around claiming to be the church of the sith (or whatever) It will raise to many alarm bells in the empires heads and we don't want that kind of attention. We want to be able to creep up on them (sneaky sneaky Like) before they know it we so own them. lol

If your talking about the ranking terms like aprrentice, knight and lord, and master. I just used those as an example there titles may change even it hard to say. However the base ideals of the sith will still stay intact or should. However the sith Ideals can be interpeted many different ways so yeah.

(Great example of what I am talking about is The KA. They are a froce using group primarily but they don't go out of there way to let every one know they are Dark Jedi or Sith. They hide what they are from the mass Public IC so not to draw Unwanted attention.)

All and all though underneath it all the New group will be sith weather they call themselves that..

[Zereth Lancer]

Zereth is, technically, a sith lord. The current TSO ranking system has only four tiers, which are Acolyte, Apprentice, Knight, and Master. No Lord rank within the group, but as a sith in general he would be of Lord ranking. He would be, most likely, on an equal level to Vega. Although I am unsure, because I do not know what the full extent of Vega's powers are. Rankings can be both political and power based. A good boy can be promoted up to a rank, but power-wise he may be something completely different. *Shrug*

Yes. We would need a new name for this group. Something that completely seperates us from TSO. We don't even have to use the name "Sith" within the name of our group. If we want to be zealots, then I like the idea of having a "churchy" name. Church of the Sith, just makes me giggle. The only name that comes to mind is the name of a darkside group on another board. No plagarism for me, please. I'm full already. We could always use a few cliche darksider group words, like Conclave, Cabal, and Covenant. Just a thought. But right now I don't think a name is important. I believe we need to work out the ground work and foundation of this new group before we go into anything deeper. Such as theology and perspectives. Will this group be pure sith teaching? The whole "Destroy all life, become all powerful, and then rot away" outlook? Personally, I think we need a newer, fresher outlook then the pure sith mindframe. I've done this with Zereth, who has incorporated both aspects and theologies of the sith and the jedi into his outlook on life in general. But then I don't think we should just be a bunch of "Dark Jedi" running around causing mayhem.


18 tier (eample is below)
I am weak - a little stronger - Apprentice - I made it to Level 2 -Are we there yet -Warrior - I can't beleave it Level 3 - Taste like chicken - Knight - Level 4 - I can finally train people? - Lord - I finally made it to Level 5 - I can't believe i'm still alive - Master - I'm almost a god - Godmoding but I am a god - Uberness

:lol

[Setzer Dayne]

I agree on the change of viewpoint thing. I'd think the group would need to encorperate a lot of religious activity into its workings, if indeed option 1 is the road we're taking. Prayers, preaching, pilgrimage, that kind of thing. Perhaps the group could take the role of Holy Crusaders, a religious military order or something? Or maybe like a "Knights Templar" kind of vibe?

[Dasquian Belargic]

Zereth - Vega in his present incarnation is about as powerful as Salem Ave was before the recent (since I switched their ranks around for the new timeline, with Salem becoming the more powerful).

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Again - you can form more than one group, people.

I believe that the Imps might be looking to start a darksider group sort of within the Inquisitorate and that was what Bloodcrest was going to be working on, but don't quote me on that. Just so you can see that it will be different from what you others are proposing.

[Zereth Lancer]

Agreed. We could start more then one group, but I am afraid that we might not have a large enough member base to start two or more groups. We'll just have to see where it goes.

I personally like the idea of sith working with in the Imperial Inquisition. This was TSO's plan, but it never got off the ground despite all our planning. Zereth would be more likely to join a zealous, church-like darkside group then work for the empire. But I like the idea of there being sith inside the inquisitor too. This could lead to the churchy sith clashing with the inquisitor sith. Just a thought.

Now. Why is the rum always gone?

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Don't start talking about large enough member base, Zereth. You need five members, not twenty.

[Zereth Lancer]

I was not talking about having enough to start the group, I meant having enough members to enlargen and grow multiple groups up to a healthy, active state. This could be done with five members ,sure, but I have watched TSO die too many times because of having too few active members to think otherwise. I apologize for being paranoid in this way. Just ignore me. I'll get over it eventually. :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Look, you can't grow if there isn't anywhere for the people to play.

I won't comment on TSO dying several times, except that perhaps with a new group that is completely different (don't make the same mistakes that TSO did and try to be the same as them) you won't have that problem.

[Bloodcrest]

You were indeed correct on the point of the new Sith having something to do with the Inquisitors...at least as far as I know. I'm waiting for the mastermind of that particular plot to speak, but until then, I'm up for what we know of the idea right now. I think, and don't quote me on this, that the new group would be something similar, though in many ways different, from the Imperial Knights (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Knights). Again, don't quote me on that, it's just the first thing that came to my mind when I heard the little bit of the idea.

[Miranda Tarkin]

Aria won't go for that especially after being hunted by them. And even if she were captured, her being converted would go against everything she stands for.

The reason I keep saying option one is because that's the only option thus far that fits for her and if other people are interested, then those are the people I would need to talk to and collaborate together! :D

[Karl Valten]

I haven't spoken to our Inq-force mastermind recently, but from what was proposed to me I got the feeling of more a cult-like/religous group than more the followings of the Imperial Knights. We coined the terms "Imperial Mages" and "Sanctioned Adept", but everything is a work in progress.

I really like the churchy fanatic idea, it would also work well with character interactions combined with a more hard line Imperial Knights group. But I'll get the brains behind the idea to post his plan before scheming along. :p

[Bloodcrest]

It's funny...we all know exactly who's behind the Inquis scheme without even saying it.

[Sorsha Kasajian]

I can help out. I'm working out a concept for a Sith Knight, and waiting on an image claim approval from Marcus via PM. I hope that doesn't take too long.

[Byron Legard]

With regards to the image claim, I believe he has 7 days to reply. If there's no response after this time, you can consider the image yours.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Thats what the rules are, per the image claim thread.

[Sorsha Kasajian]

ok, in any event, would someone in close contact with him please pass the word along?

[Lilaena De'Ville]

With regards to the image claim, I believe he has 7 days to reply. If there's no response after this time, you can consider the image yours.
If he doesn't reply to your PM after 7 days, it doesn't matter what he says. The image claim is yours.

[Blade Bacquin]

"The sith Finatics" This not the name of the group I just haven't came up with one yet that I like enough. Also everything is subject to change that I am presenting it is just an Idea and Ideas can change. :)

(I will also be presenting this ina storyteller like mode just cause I am bored.)

There is a planet out there that only the true and faithful sith know about. This Planet is covered in a lush dark Forest. In the midst of this forest planet is only one shining example of a empire long lost to the Galaxy. This the planet where many sith lords rose to power. This where the sith hide after the hyperspace wars for many years. I am speaking of the planet known as zoist and the sith citadel that is barried in it's forests. It is the greatest sith secret Only a few know it's exact location.

1. The first testiment of true faith is finding what is lost or hidden.

This the truest of all tests one must find the force with in themselves and break free from the lies the galaxy now teaches. Finding the force with in oneself and taking it to be the the truth being revealed to you will lead you to what has been hidden from the rests eyes. Seek the truth and it shall be revealed to you.

(Zoist will be the home planet of the this new relegious group if it is to become a group. Because it is the siths best kept secret. Not even the empire knew where it was although it is said palptine new it's location but took it to his grave. It wasn't until later in the EU books that Jacen solo actually rediscovered the planet. There on that planet there is an acient sith citadel there is no other place better to teach the faith. There is one sith on this board I know for sure knows the location of this planet (there maybe others as well) But he knows this is the only safe place for sith where they can not be found.)

2. The second testiment of faith is taking back what was stolen from us.

There are several planets out there Children of the sith that hold many of are secrets we can not let these places fall into the wrong hands. The temples on Yavin 4, The tombs of koriban, The Krath on Onderion, and many more. For once there was a great empire the sith ruled over now it's remains are scattered and those remains belong to us. Before we can truelly rise to what we once where we must pull these peices back together so that we can restore what once was. If these pieces fall into the wrong hands all we have strieved to keep from prying eyes will be lost. Are secrets will be no more and are faith destroyed.

(These are a set of are common goals we should strieve for as a group. I see them as good and resonable goals that can keep us going as a group for awhile. Are first goal is anyone who wishes to join the group should go on a quest to find Zoist the lost city if they find it they have passed the first test of faith. The second goal is the more group oriented one are job will be collecting and protecting the sith secrets at all costs. This lead us into interaction with many groups because the destroyed sith empire is held by allot of different factions.

One of the major ones we will want is the the knowledge and History in which the Krath on Onderion holds. There are amny other places through out the galaxy that are just as important though. The tombs on Koriban for one which is the barial place of are dead once we control Korban as well we will more then likely take pilgramages there and bary are dead there once again.)

3. the third testiment of faith is the teachings of the sith learnign them and accepting them as the truth.

Are history and teachings are rich. The sith lords of the past shall be held as saints and prophets to are faith. There teachings will feed us and fuel are crusade. Phrophets such as Darth Bane will teach us of the mistakes of are past and how to fix them. Darht Bane made the rule of two for a reason thinking it would fix a major problem with in the sith however his Idea failed. Now we must gather together and rethink a new Idea to fix the problems that have plague us for generations. It is time once again for us to rise as many instead of two but work together rather then against each other. It will be a hard struggle but with faith we can succeed the children of the sith.

(This testiment refers to the fact that also on the group level we will have to overcome the struggles of the sith past. Which was plagued with internal struggles keeping it as a faith trying to protect it's secrets rather then a group hell bent on glactic domination should aliviate some of this but having internal struggles is also a way to get out and about so this goal number three.)

4. The fourth testiment the testiment of war. This testiment is to root out all non believers and purge them. Only those accepting of the faith shall live in the new worlds.

My children of the sith there are countless non believers amongst the stars. There is still a faith brewing that even counters are own I am talking about the vile and evil Jedi. The cast us out and we left in peace discovered are own worlds where we could pratice in peace. But the Jedi's lust was not just satisfied with casting us out they wanted to destroy us. We ruled over many planets in the past most of which where peaceful and free. The only struggles we had where with in the top sith at that time. The planets themselves did not struggle through this only the higher ups in the faith who thought they knew how to rule better did. Yet the Jedi came to one of are more sacred planets (koriban) with the old republic and instigated war on are people. We fought but lost and are free worlds where plunged into one of slavery and subjegating rules. These non believers are still out there somewhere and now is are chance to destroy the slavers once and for all.

There are other non believers out there. Liek the Imperials who use to follow darht sidous but after his fall they forgot who was the mastermind behind there fredom. They forgot the faith and left it to die. The are perhaps some of the greatest villians. They took what they where given (ships based off of sith designs and such) but they never gave back to the faith. If you take soemthing you must have something to give back to the force in return. To a sith we give are lives to the force and it gives us what we need to survive.

(this testiment just shows the view of how the galaxy came to be from the sith perspective. The jedi where the evil ones not the sith. The Imperials took what sidous gave them but never gave back infact most though his faith was a farce and a false faith. The Dark jedi left the dogma of the sith behind thinking they could just take from the force and the force when never retribution on them. So non believers who do not accept that every living thing is made of the force or that they can take and never give back must be purged or forced to repent. this is perhaps the strictest part of the sith faith. Are job is not only to protect the faith but to make sure it spreads to the right people and that the wrong ones can be set in there place.)

5. Testiment of Honor. Honor comes in many forms but through your honor to the force you become stronger.

My children of the sith we must honor allt he force has given us and will give us. I t will give us strength and power. Do not take these things for granted they are gifts that can be taken away at anytime if the force so wishes it. So to pay are respect we train and me learn keeping are minds always open to the force. We see it's many changing sides, the truth, the past, the present,and the futures this the force gives us. So we must honor those who came before us as saints and prophets. We must honor are great warriors. We must honor are teachings. We must guide the lost to the truth. We above all must honor and respect the wishes of the force. For it is are provider and we must not bite the hand that feeds us.

These are the primary five rules and goals of the sith faith.

Protect and control the secrets o fhte sith at all costs, Honor the past, Root out the non believers and teach those who accept it, Rise to a new statous in the galaxy.

Some additional rules that group is looking at.

The title of Darth (and following name) will be given to anyone who reaches the equivelent level of Knight. This will hold a relegious aspect to meaning basically you have earn the right to learn deeper secrets of the faith and are welcomed fully into the faith.

Before that point you will just be an accolyte or follower of the faith one wishing to learn and learnign the basics. The knight status and darth title will give you the right to go out and spread the truth (teach students basically). Up until that point you must learn and accept.

The title itself of darht can only be given by a master or your teacher IC. (ooc you and your teacher or a master can discuss what tile you would like to follow darth but IC it has to look as if the master or teacher gave it to you. An example of this is I choose darth Lucid for Blade OOC but Aria IC was the oen who gave it to him Blade himself really had no influence on her choice or at least that is how it is supose to look. It is much more to how the sith actually worked.)

As for the group name well that is up for discussion as well as anything else you would like to seen added or changed. I really do want other peoples Imput thanks hope you all enjoyed the idea and are as thrill with how this Idea is progressing as I am. :)

[Blade Bacquin]

Sith code
Peace is a lie; there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me

Passion -

Passion is what drives us to fulll fill the forces wishes. It drives us to keep the faith going.

Strength-
Is what we gain hrough passion. It is what will keep us going through even hardships.

Power-

Through are pasion we gain strength and through are strength to keep going no matter what the force with give us power. Power to defeat those that stand against us and the truth of the froce.

Victory -

Through the power the force gives us we shall gain victory over are enemies and the multitudes of non believers.

my chains are broken and The Force shall free me

After victory are goals will be achieved and we shall be free from pursicution. Free to pratice are faith as we wish. Free to bring are faith to whom ever we choose. Are word will spread with freedom and then ever one will be free.

[Sorsha Kasajian]

If he doesn't reply to your PM after 7 days, it doesn't matter what he says. The image claim is yours.

Okay, still no word from him yet, but I've been developing my character conception and I think I've got a solution to my image claim problem. The idea of playing a Falleen (or a halfi-falleen) appeals to me, so I took my avatar image and put it in the make-up chair last night. I picked out a nice shade of lizardy green and went to work. This pic is the end result.

This is a custom screen capture directly off my Ultraviolet DVD. I went out of my way to choose one significantly different from the Jaime Tomahok character (no cool shades) plus she's a sexy shade of green now. I think they look different enough now that Marcus lets me keep it. Cross your fingers for me everyone.

The only other thing I need is a name. I want to use 'Vicet' but I've already commited that to a vamp character. :lol

end of hijack

[Adrea Veliner]

and I have a name for her now, thanks to my Muse. :love My Muse is Pretty. :glomp

[Setzer Dayne]

Good stuff. I like the look of the ideas that Blade's coming out with. I like the idea of having a set "uniform", or set of armour for formal business of the group, like missions and things.

Also, perhaps members could be given a choice of path upon reaching Knight. If the group is a religious group, maybe they could choose between becoming more of a warrior type, focusing on lightsaber techniques and the like. On the other hand, they could choose to become something along the lines of a Bishop or Priest, focusing in on Force techniques.

Of course, having become a Knight already, they'll be able to train others up to Knight level, but the split will give a little more diversity to the group and its teachings.

[Blade Bacquin]

possible ranking system

Acolyte-
A beginer in the teaching the teaching of the holy oders. There primary job with in an order is to get cermonies ready and learn to become higher ranked in the holy orders. In the case of the sith they are learners and must be guided in the right direction by there masters.


Deacon -
A deacon is the next level up where the learner is permited to preach the word if he so wishes. He also given a bit more responsibility he over sees the Acolyte's to make sure the cerimonies are presented right and every detail of it is present. He still must be ever vigilent of his masters whishes though.

Priest -
Priest is the equivelent of a Knight. This is where they gaint he resposibilty to train those of lesser rank with in the order. They also gain the right to participate in certain rituals (such as battles and the like) with out there masters express permission. They do however still need there master to continue there learning.

Bishop -
Bishop is the equivelent of the lord rank. At this rank you have all of the duties of the below and participation. However at this rank you are allowed to propose Idea's for expasion with out going through your master. You may also plan out rituals of your own and present them to the highest rank with out going through your master. At this rank you start taking ona major leadership roll with in the holy order.

Cardinal -
Cardinal is the equivelent of master rank. At this rank you are considered a full fledged leader with in the holy order. You no longer have to look to your master for guidence what so ever unless you choose to. Cardinals are the top of the food chain with in the holy order.

(As for Setzer addition to the ranking system I have been think on that as well. Once you reach the knight equivelent level I think you should be able to choose your path. weather it be with in the holy or warrior oriented path. The additions are as follows)

Knight -
the ones who choose this path has choosen to become a protector of the holy order. There main job is to protect the clergy at all costs. With this orderyou do not have as much say in the rituals or battles choosen but you are the primary planners of how the battle should go down. Yet you as a knight are bound by strict code of higher archy then the clergy is you must always follow your masters direct orders. (much like a milatary)

Baron (lord) -
A baron oversee's the knights to make sure they are in order and fight for what ever duty they must preform. The Baron is much like a field general in that they make sure everything is in place and that they are well prepared. They get say in how battle plans are layout unlike the knights who just follow the orders. They have agreat responisibilty of keeping everything in check and if something is out of place the cosequences fall on them.

Duke (master) -
The duke is the one who gets final say in the plans. They are the equvelent rank of master however still have to take orders from the holy order making the relegious side the more powerful of the two paths to choose. They are just as powerful in terms of the force hower they are not the ruling class. A cardinal can override there orders. For cardinals are lead all. (Think of your history readings on the old chatholic church they where above kings in most respects. They often times override the kings orders.)

(this makes it so the relgious order or aspect of this group is the most powerful in respects to chain of command. Mainly cause we do not the warrior order going out and starting wars that the holy would feel unnessary. It is the relegious Idles that we are playing on here after all. The holy order would be the ones in primary control not saying the warrior order wouldn't have any say cause they do it's just if the celrgy doesn't agree with the plan they can change it. So we have the warrior order and the Holy order. There is one last rank to mention although it really ain't a rank it is position it doesn't make the person any more powerful then the rest it just leaves that person as the very top of the food chain. Basically the leader of the whole group.)

Dark Lord -
This is the head of the cardinal order. There is only one dark Lord this does not give them ultimate riegn for they can be over ruled by the majority of cardinals. if they are the only cardinal they can be over ruled by the next lower rank and so on. Much like the emporer they are seen as the figure head of the group and primary spokesmen. I say the title of Dark lord cause we have to keep something a little sith about the group and the dark lord of the sith was always the leader of the acient sith. Yet in this case they can be overrules unlike the sith of old's dark lords.

(hope you all have liked what I have presented thus far. keep pumping out the Ideas and I will keep formulating on this Idea. I want to express thanks to Setzer on the split orders Idea.)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

That's a lot of ranks. O_o

[Blade Bacquin]

LOL yes although some of them are the same ranks just dependant on the path one chooses weather it be fighter oriented or more force oriented.

I went with the five tier system just cause that is what I am use to.

Apprentice- Warrior - knight - Lord - Master.

This does not mean it is set in stone. It is subject to change as is everything else I have presented. I'm just waiting for people to add there opinion and ideas into the mix. :)

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Personally I like the three tier system, but that is only my opinion and I don't have a character that is going to be in this new group, so it doesn't really count. ;)

[Dasquian Belargic]

I like the idea of having a distinction between the mage and warrior class - and since we all know that Sith can never stay together for too long, it could lead to some interesting fragmentation in the future.

[Adrea Veliner]

I like the idea of having a distinction between the mage and warrior class - and since we all know that Sith can never stay together for too long, it could lead to some interesting fragmentation in the future.

I second this. :D

As for the rank system, the 5 tier is the TSE version. I suppose it could be voted on which people like better. 3 or 5.

[Miranda Tarkin]

If we go with a two class system, I think for safe of ease a three tier system would be nice. However, the down side is that people would need to realize they might be in a certain rank for some time depending on long they play. I know TSE decided to go with a 5 tier rank so there was more advancement ^^ I dod like having the Ranks distinguished for either class

[Setzer Dayne]

So the ranks would go something like...

Priest -> Bishop -> Cardinal
/
Deacon <- Acolyte <- (Start here)
\
Knight -> Baron -> Duke

Of course, that's based on Blade's 5 tier model...

[Miranda Tarkin]

ooooooh. Seeing it layed out like that makes more sense and I likes

[Dasquian Belargic]

I think the two-paths idea lends itself to the 5-tier model, though I don't mind which one we use really. Obviously climbing the promotions ladder isn't nearly as competitive or important now as it was back when the 5-tier system was originally introduced, but at least from an In Character perspective I think it would make sense for there to be some checkpoint between totally untrained Apprentice and specialized Knight, able to train in either the 'mage' or 'paladin' (I use that word to differentiate from the 'warrior' rank) class... assuming that they begin specializing at the second step of the ladder.

[Blade Bacquin]

Not to complicate anything but setzer diagram is excellent shows exactly what I was meaning with out all the exstra stuff I added. lol

Begining Order would go as follows.

Acolyte -> Deacon

Then splitts off into two different groups depending on witch path one chooses.

Holy Order

Priest -> Bishop -> Cardinal

Warrior Order

Knight -> Baron -> Duke

(as for the three tier Idea I can make that work somewhat if people like that Idea better By combining the acolyte with the deacon and The baron with the knight and the cardinal with the bishop. It would look something like this using setzers diagraming)

Priest -> Cardinal
/
Acolyte <- (Start here)
\
Knight -> Duke

begining order

Acolyte

Holy Order
Priest -> Cardinal

warior order
Knight -> Duke

[Setzer Dayne]

Ahh I see. Personally, I'd like to see the 5-tier system used :P

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Why not Knight - Master, however, instead of Duke? Sith Masters are part of Star Wars, while Sith Dukes might be confusing to new members.

[Dasquian Belargic]

I think the top-tier of each path should be called Master, to be honest. They are a master of their specialized area by then. I suppose they could always go by two titles, e.g. Aria Shin, Sith Master, Cardinal of the Whatever.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Ooh, I like and approve of that idea. :D

[Setzer Dayne]

But isn't this group supposed to be steering away from normal Sith conventions? I thought the whole thing was going to be completely new and original?

[Dasquian Belargic]

There aren't really many different ways that we could organize, fairly and logically, the way that ranks are handled so it's only to be expected that we would have to adapt a previously used format. Although the rank system we're discussing is based on past groups, the fundamental goals and attitudes of the group idea that's currently proposed - a zealous religious faction - are unique, at least in terms of SWFans' history.

[Miranda Tarkin]

I think I like Dasq's ideas. Master at the end with some originality in the middle. That way everyone can relate :)

[Blade Bacquin]

So what I am getting out of this is you want a system set up more like this. (using the 5 tier cause it is what I am use to again and is by no means the best.)

(holy order)
Knight -> Lord -> Master
/
Warrior<- Acolyte <- (Start here)
\
Knight -> Lord -> Master
(warrior order)

With these titles to follow there rank.

(holy order)
Priest -> Bishop -> Cardinal
/
Deacon <- Acolyte <- (Start here)
\
Knight -> Baron -> Duke
(warrior order)

[Adrea Veliner]

Next thing is the official rollcall so we know who's the who and what's the what.

Adrea Veliner - Warrior Caste - Knight Rank
Master - ???

[Setzer Dayne]

Okies

Setzer Dayne - Acolyte Rank

[Zereth Lancer]

I am really liking where this is all going. Pity I missed out on this long debate when it was happening, but I am satisfied with the conclusions nonetheless. I personally prefer the five tier system, as it helps distinguish the different points of developement.

Zereth Lancer - Warrior Caste - Knight Rank

[Dasquian Belargic]

Vega Van-Derveld, Warrior Caste, Knight Rank.

I'm tempted to revive my old Warlock character, for this. He'd fit in well with the Holy Order.

[Aria Sihin]

Aria Sihin (Darth Abilus) - Religious Cast - Sith Master

[Blade Bacquin]

Blade Ice (Darth Lucid) - Religious Cast - Sith lord

I will also be doing cross over training into the warrior caste if needed. Due to Blades backround and after all he knows the meaning of being a warrior. But he is taking this new path on the relegious road as a test to himself and for Aria. :)

[Setzer Dayne]

Wahoo, at least 6 opening characters!

Anyway, don't we still need a storyline with the cause for all the Sithies making this new group?

[Dasquian Belargic]

We do indeed. Something to do with Chaos (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos), perhaps ... maybe the soul of Dark Lord bringing us together? Perhaps Blade, our all-knowing encyclopedia, has another bright idea? :D

[Zereth Lancer]

Ramoth's body is currently inhabited by the spirit of an ancient sith lord, so we already have one spirit among us. So, Ramoth, under the spirit's bidding, might seek out other sith/darksiders to form a collective of darksiders, although I really cannot imagine how a mortally bound spirit would manage to gather us up, as most of the sith are in hiding and spread out.

Another spirit, perhaps, but then we'd have two spirits within the ranks of this new group. I really cannot see any of us coming together "accidentally" or even one of us seeking out others. Of all of us, Zereth is the only one I can imagine seeking out other sith, and that's only because he's used to a group atmosphere and would not enjoy being alone.

I dunno, but I'd like to see if Blade has any suggestions. Thus far he's come up with some rather brilliant ideas.

[Setzer Dayne]

Perhaps something drawing them to the planet "Zoist" that Blade was talking about earlier. Like a massive Force event or something. Presumably there are many NPC Sith throughout the galaxy, but assuming those that are characters are the most powerful, perhaps only they can feel the Force gathering or whatever on Zoist. Upon arrival, perhaps an ancient holocron could be hidden on the planet, containing the teachings for the "Warrior" and "Religious" paths, and the ways in which the heirachy should work, and upon this, the new group forms?

[Blade Bacquin]

First things first. I need a little information from all of you. Where are your characters currently Planet wise?

Second thing Blade and Aria are currently on the run disembarking from Agmar(sp). I just want to know where relatively everyone is so I can work on this idea.

Blade himself has already met Zareth once however Zareth wasn't aware it was Blade.

http://www.sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13808

Also on a side note Blade also has a plan in place to try and find Vega. So Blade is secretly search out sith or posible sith under Aria's nose.

As for Chaos and another sith lord ghost I'm currently playing with that Idea as well to see if I can add something more to unfinished idea I'm having for all of this. As for Blade and Aria well I already know how those two will get zoist. Because Blade wants to go there since he hasn't been there ina very long time. there is more too his reason for going there then that but like I said at the moment until i get a little information from all of you it is an unfinished Idea. :)

[Setzer Dayne]

Well, Setzer can be anywhere. My idea is to have his background as a space pirate. I know you (Blade) and I have had a brief discussion about a possible collaboration, which perhaps other characters could latch on to. I guess we need to see where everyone else is at.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Vega is following Arya Ravenwing around the galaxy. I believe the last place they stopped off at was Bespin, but he's fairly flexible.

[Bloodcrest]

Ramoth is still on Coruscant. The thread I had started with him with the Sith that was going to be my master was going to possibly get me an artifact that heightened Ramoth's ability to perceive other darksiders. If we somehow worked this into the story, then that would explain how Ramoth was able to find even the Sith that were hidden. As far as ranks go, if we're going to have this as some kind of church/religion-based sith order, for the warrior caste that is being proposed, one rank, perhaps a middle rank between knight and master could be Templar, thus adding more of a connection to the whole church thing. That's just my two cents, I'm still waiting for the idea with the connection to the Imperials to surface, but he's taking too long. :P By the time he presents the idea, we'll all have agreed upon a different one. :D

[Zereth Lancer]

Zereth was last on Corellia, but I was playing with the idea of having him go to Onderon chasing after Alexia Sturkov, another powerful sith character played by myself and the one responcible for destroying the Sith Order.

As for Ramoth trying to find that artifact, well, We could probably work something else out. Baralai disapeared, as he always does, but perhaps Ezra Na'chtion (also played by me) and Ramoth could go after the artifact on their own, or Ramoth could hitch up with Zereth, since they have a bit of history together although not a good one, and they could get the artifact together.

[Bloodcrest]

Sounds fine to me, and congrats Zereth on post 888. :P I can work something out character-wise with Ramoth.

[Setzer Dayne]

Hmm...so if Blade and Aria are headed for Zoist, then Zereth and Ramoth track them down with this artifact thing, that gives us something to work with as far as a gathering goes. Need to get Vega and Adrea involved too, plus I need to work something out for Setzer.

[Blade Bacquin]

I am not big on planning threads begining to end cause most of the time plans change some where in the middle. However I do have a vague Idea which I will give to you. This Idea doesn't have to be accepted like everything else I have presented it is subject to change and debate.

(this Idea will take up two or three threads maybe more depending on what everyone else wants to include. For me personally and aria it will take up probably three threads more then likely.)

First off Aria and Blade are just leaving agamar which isn't that far from zoist however. Blade has sort of trick Aria letting her pick the planet and making her think they are going to the planet that she choose Ord Mantell. On there suposed Journey there They will land on Bandomere to switch ships so they will be hard to tale by the IMperials. They will then comandere a ship with Pilot/Pirate. This where Setzer can come into play. This also where Aria and Blade will part ways for the moment. Blade will give Setzer the cordinents to a planet (unknown to Setzer since zoist is well a well hidden Planet.). He will tell Setzer to take Aria there and hide where they are going as best as possible since Aria will think they are going to Ord mantel. Tell Setzer to take off as soon as Blade jumps ship and at all cost keep Aria safe and not to let her kill him (meaning setzer).

(that was probably the most planned out threads of the ones I have planned for getting zoist this will get setzer and Aria to Zoist first.)

After that my second planned thread Involves sorsha of the Black Sun. It will take place on curscant with blade using his alternate ID Darth Lucid. This thread I can't give much detail out about for It is supose to be kept a secret for now and until it is finished. But in the process of this thread Blade will find the aprocomite location of Vega (or at least where he should be).

(there is thread two of three I have planned for this Idea. Any of them can start before the other it really doesn't matter the order I pump them out I will just do some back tracking to explain somethings.)

Now knowing the location or proximate location of Vega and having met Zareth before Blade will reach out to them through the dream scape. He will again be using his alt ID to reach out to them darth Lucid (the name meaning Dark Dreamer). In the dream scquence he will be playing A accient sith Lord trapped in the realm of Chaos. Telling each of them that in order to free him and continue each of there teaching they Must go to a planet called Eclipse which is somewhere in the deep core at the center of the galaxy. He will also tell them to pick up as many apprentices or sith as they can find allong the way. (so Zareth can pick up ramoth or what ever you two work out)

Eclipse
Type: Planet
Galactic Region: Deep Core
Environment: Temperate

From here on in the thread it is about each mans journey to Eclipse. On Blade's journey he will find Adrea. Upon reaching eclipse Blade will play two part one as himself and one controling the illusion of darht Lucid which Blade will create. Lucid will go on some speal about how the sith are no longer strong under the rule of two and a new order needs to arise. One that takes the sith back t it's routes and holy beliefs. That it is time for the sith to return home. The first test of the new order is to find the planet zoist where (Lucid claiming to be an acient sith lord) will be waiting there arival. That from this point forth any new acolytes first test will be to find what has been kept a secret for 25,000 years (that being the planet zoist). There for it is your first test and the test that will keep any true believer ont he right path. After that we all head out to find zoist eather on are own if we choose or as a group. (what will be waiting for us is of course Setzer and Aria (a Very confused Aria bent on killing Blade of course).

(this just a vague Idea of what i have come up with but like I said I am not always the best planner of threads. Mine just ussually have a begining and everything else is well lets see how it ends kind of an attitude.)

[Setzer Dayne]

Wahoo! Works fine for me!

[Dasquian Belargic]

Sounds like a plan :)

[Miranda Tarkin]

One problem. Aria. She still won't go for it at this point :p

[Kaast Dulli]

ok, i want to create a sith dude. maybe a sith lord. he will be a dark jedi any how. well, since it appears there isn't a real sith group should i just create him or do i have to go through the whole process with wating for an ok?

[Miranda Tarkin]

You can create a Sith character as we work out the kinks, but you must start out as an Apprentice first. Everyone has to start at the bottom and work their way up :)

[Kaast Dulli]

ok. should i still apply? and how does one work his or her way up? just curious....;)

[Zereth Lancer]

A sith, or any force user for that point, grows in power and strength of the force by being trained by a higher ranking force user- usually of the same alignment (Sith teach sith, jedi teach jedi). Your sith character would start out on the bottom rung, but if he tags along with this new sith group, he would enter a position to be trained by one of the higher ranking sith of this new group and slowly, over time and through many threads depicting your training, grow in the force. Make sense?

[Kaast Dulli]

it makes sence. sorry for all of the quuestions.now, are all new sith given masters or do i have to find a masteron my own? i ask this because i have a jedi who has been msterless for some time now.

[O.W. Outcast]

(Blade here) Sorry we hit a small snag that is now all worked we should be kicking this off soon. :)

As for your master dulli well thats depends. If you tag allong with one of us or find us at a later date that really doesn't matter. But when ever you get to use you will be allowed to choose a master or if do not know who you want one can be choosen for you. At least that is how it has always worked at the sith groups I have rped with.

[Fraro Alvir]

ok, Kaast dulli's sith guy reporting for duty.


Fraro Alvir- warrior class- Acolyte

[Fraro Alvir]

i am also now working on my bio. when i finish it where should i post it?

[Fraro Alvir]

when will we be getting the new sith group off the ground? i am ready for some evil...

[Jason Dreggs]

(Blade here)

I will be kicking this off soon to let everyone know I just need to talk to setzer and aria first it will probably be kicking off sometime next week since aria is busy this weekend. :)

[Fraro Alvir]

let's get this sith stuff going.

i am ready to roll.

man, i am a loser.....:lol

[Aelor Oli'Shol]

If you guys are still open for recruitment, I'm looking for a place to put this char.

Aelor Oli'Shol - Warrior Caste - Knight Rank

[Dasquian Belargic]

Knight, Aelor?? With whom did you earn that rank?

[Aelor Oli'Shol]

Marcus gave me permission to start her out as a Knight.

[Dasquian Belargic]

...Marcus? :huh

[Blade Bacquin]

I'm wondering if she means one of marcus characters gave her the rank rather then he gave her permission to use the rank?

Cause well one of the bad parts about the whole reset thing was we allowed people to switch there ranks around and it is easy to lose track of who had what and for what character and to which character such a rank is on now.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

If Marcus gave you permission to start off as a knight, I'm afraid that doesn't mean anything at all, really. The rule is everyone starts off as a apprentice/padawan level and works their way up. If your rank pre- or post-reset was simply jumped into because someone said you could (who wasn't even a staff member), then according to board rules your rank is invalid. Sorry ^_^;

[Blade Bacquin]

First thread is up.

http://sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?p=223887#post223887

Just so everyone knows I am doing the split thread thing for a reason. It allows everyone currently still in threads with there charactersa chance to try and tie things up those threads or at least get more done in them. Also it allows other sometime to plan out there characters and get some Idea of what they want to do and how they want to develop them with in this new group.

I know it seems like this maybe the slow way but trust mean when i say it does help in developing a character allot more then jumping straight into a group wiht out at least a bit of a back story.

In this particular thread ~

In this thread it is aria and Blade meeting Setzer basically and Blade and Aria parting ways. Mainly Blade is going to tell aria he is leadingthe imperials off in another direction while she heads off in the opposite. In truth Blade is going out to hunt down the meaning of the dream he is currently getting haunted by. Which inturn will lead him to Vega and Zareth.

As soon as Blade part in this thread is done I will jump into the next thread imediately so not to keep those waiting, waiting to long.

So far I am in titling these threads a A Dark rebirth. Witch is the chronical title if you have no Idea what I am talking about.

Thread Titles:
1. A Dark Rebirth - Parting Ways
The goign sperate ways of Aria and Blade. Aria will head off to Zoist with Setzer. Blade will head off in search of Vega and Zareth.

2. A Dark Rebirth - Death of Sorsha Kasajian
Blade using his alter ego Darth Lucid forces Sorsha into locating Vega for him using what ever Black sun has at it's disposal.

3. A Dark Rebirth - The Prophets
This will be long thread and may even be split up into a few depending on how everyone feels about it. It starts off with Blade using again his alter ego Darth lucid to invade Vega and Zereth's dreams. Tellling them to meet him on the planet of eclipse and allong there way pick up as many of the lost flock as they can. Also in this thread Blade as himself will find Adrea Veliner as the one he brings to the planet eclipse.

"Side Notes"
If you want to start seprate threads about how you arrive on eclipse and who you pick up allong the way. That is cool but it will all lead back into the prophet thread. It may also happen that this thread becomes a 2 parter.

Anyone can whgo wants to bea sith may join in on this thread by either asking myself, Vega, or Zareth to pick them up on the way to the planet eclipse. At least I am pretty sure those two will be will to help me with this thread when it comes up. lol We will need a little information though like where your character is currently in the galaxy and he or she does currently if not a sith already.

Once on eclipse I will be playing two parts one as Lucid and one as Blade. Of course Blade or Lucid will just be an illussion cause as of yet Blade is not multipal man. More then likely Blade will play the illusion and Lucid will infact be the real Blade. Any Lucid will tell you all of the planet zoist and maybe a bit of it's history. Telling you that the power you seek is on that planet but it is well hidden and your first test of faith is to find the planet.

4. A Dark Rebirth - Black Revival
This thread will be everyone arriving on Zoist pretty much and entering the citadel that is there and meeting the master Darth Abilus. This will set up how the group will run and give anyone knight level or highter there Darth title. (you may choose the title but it will look like aria is giving it to you IC.). This thread will also reveal the name of are new relegion. It will also show the relegious order and the warrior order. Since the warrior order is so far the most primary order right now I am refering to you as the dark army however that name will change. I will just use the term the dark army IC in most of these threads as reference to those in the warrior caste.

"Side threads"
I can be involved any side thread if anyone wishes. As of right now I will be involved in an unnamed side thread involving setzer and Aria. Invovling the dreams haunting Aria.

Also side threads leading up to how you reach the planet eclipse and pick up who ever you pick up are very welcome.

Also side threads on hw reach Zoist and enter the Black revival thread are also very welcome.

All side threads add more backstory to the group. :)

[Blade Bacquin]

If Marcus gave you permission to start off as a knight, I'm afraid that doesn't mean anything at all, really. The rule is everyone starts off as a apprentice/padawan level and works their way up. If your rank pre- or post-reset was simply jumped into because someone said you could (who wasn't even a staff member), then according to board rules your rank is invalid. Sorry ^_^;

Sorry for my imput on this since you are staff and I am not. Just the last part of what you said confused me a bit.


If Marcus gave you permission to start off as a knight, I'm afraid that doesn't mean anything at all, really. The rule is everyone starts off as a apprentice/padawan level and works their way up.

I totally agree with that and understand that part for that part is in the rules.


If your rank pre- or post-reset was simply jumped into because someone said you could (who wasn't even a staff member), then according to board rules your rank is invalid. Sorry ^_^;

This is the part that confused me because when of when we reset. It was clearly stated that if you had a character of lets say of knight level but you wanted to do something new with that character you could use that knight rank on another character if you wished.

*Example*
Dalethria - Master rank, Became Miranda Tarkin Imperial after the reset. So Aria took the rank Master that Dalethria held. (since all the characters are played by the same person.) rank transfer from another character.

*Another example*
Vega - sith Lord (or master not sure) and Salem -sith knight before reset. After vega became the knight and salem the lord(or master). A sith rank reversal.

[Ashe Sieris]

<Player of Aelor

One of the male Admins gave me permission to start as a knight. I talked to him over AIM the other day about it. He asked if I had played a Knight before, which I have and that she had died. He said it was fine that I wanted to play a knight.

[Dasquian Belargic]

After some digging about in the Archives... Knight rank for Aelor approved. :)

[Fraro Alvir]

blade, quick question.

where should i place my backstory? and how you be "picking up" new members for the trip?

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Blade, when I said "jumped into" I meant not worked for. Dale and Vega/Salem worked for their ranks and simply transferred them to other characters.

Alvir worked for his/her rank as well, before the reset, so using it for this character is legal. If he/she had not worked for the rank before the reset and had simply been 'gifted' it, then it would not be valid and could not be transferred to a new character.

This is, of course, a moot point now. ;)

[Blade Bacquin]

I know I was just confused by what you meant is all LD.

[Fraro Alvir]

so is it cool if we post sith threads while we wait for the order to pan out?

i really like this dude an i can't wait to get cracking with him.:p

[Zereth Lancer]

Fraro: If you want to right your character's backstory, than you can do it in a closed thread in the roleplaying section, like a narrative of your character's history. I've done that with quite a few of my characters and it relatively works out well.

I like the plan, Blade. Although, I don't know if Zereth will be picking up anyone to come along with him. He would have taken Ramoth with him, but Ramoth seems to have gone MIA. *shrug*, but I'm open if anyone else wants to be picked up by Zereth on the way. Zereth is very keen at detecting force potential and acting on it.

[Hawkins Grime]

Ramoth is not necessarily MIA, he is merely killing finals like most other people at this time of the year. He will be back in a bit of time. But he's flexible I'm sure and can catch up and I have no doubt you guys can work out the details.

[Fraro Alvir]

thanks for the advice. looking foward to working with you guys....stupid jedi...:shakefist

[Fraro Alvir]

so, what's going on with the sith? do we have any active treads right now?

[Ashe Sieris]

Do we have a list of who is actualy joining in on this? Been trying to figure out who all is in on it and have been searching through the thread but I dont know if I got everyone that said they were joining. I have these names so far:

Fraro Alvir
Aelor Oli’Shol
Blade Ice
Vega Van Derveld
Zereth Lancer
Adrea Veliner
Setzer Dayne
Aria Sihin
Ramoth?

Is that everyone?

[Ramoth Ocran]

Point in fact, Hawkins was correct. You can read all my reasons for being gone in the Apologies thread in general discussion under my Bloodcrest profile. The fact remains, however, that I am here now.

I would like to enter Ramoth as definately a Warrior Caste, and he's possesses the training only to the point of padawan, but for whoever is interested in teaching him, something I don't think has been cleared up yet between me and whoever it was that mentioned maybe doing it, keep in mind that he is being possessed by a Force spirit. Aside from that, his goal can be flexible, as can I.

[Rev Solomon]

Pardon the intrusion, but I would just like to say this is the most original and compelling darksider group I have ever seen on SW-Fans - the only one that's ever gotten me even considering entering a Dark Side character.

And as a Jedi who's become devoted to a holy faith himself, I'd love to get involved in standing against the tide of darkness. :angel

[Ashe Sieris]

Well, you can make a new character for it.

[Fraro Alvir]

i am looking foward to the new sith group. let's get this thing rolling.

[Fraro Alvir]

how is the new order coming along? are we looking for any posts? anyone have ideas? why do i keep asking myself questions?

[Ashe Sieris]

How about a few of us that are not part of the first thread *Glances at blade eyes* get together and start pulling our characters together for it.

Aelor can be just about anywhere so if anyone wants to connect with her, feel free to contact me about it.

AIM: KaytorSurna
YIM: AsheSieris

[Darth Fernal]

Do we have a list of who is actualy joining in on this? Been trying to figure out who all is in on it and have been searching through the thread but I dont know if I got everyone that said they were joining. I have these names so far:

Fraro Alvir
Aelor Oli’Shol
Blade Ice
Vega Van Derveld
Zereth Lancer
Adrea Veliner
Setzer Dayne
Aria Sihin
Ramoth?

Is that everyone?

Add me to the list please

[Hartus Kenobi]

Blade, when I said "jumped into" I meant not worked for. Dale and Vega/Salem worked for their ranks and simply transferred them to other characters.

Alvir worked for his/her rank as well, before the reset, so using it for this character is legal. If he/she had not worked for the rank before the reset and had simply been 'gifted' it, then it would not be valid and could not be transferred to a new character.

This is, of course, a moot point now. ;)

Is there some sorta conversion chart? ;) I'm actually asking because I've got a weird situation with my characters. Question:

I initially had Hart Kenobi as a Jedi Master (carried over from the consolidation of CoruscantCity.net and SWFans.net Jedi), but then I eventually decided to de-age him to his low 20s - which meant I also had to strip away his rank as master and turn him into a knight. I don't want to raise his level back to a master, but I was wondering if I can create another knight character? 1 master = 2 knights? Part of the reason I ask is because I don't plan on ever having Hartus rejoin the Jedi or officially have a rank again, but I'd still like a character as a knight on standby if possible.

[Blade Bacquin]

how is the new order coming along? are we looking for any posts? anyone have ideas? why do i keep asking myself questions?

1. Slower then planned due to a few minor complications that are in the process of being worked out.

2. Anything that starts with a dark rebirth will be a sith oriented thread. Not to mean there can't be others. I encourge other threads.

3. you are possibly insane but no worries the majority of the population at fans is insane.



How about a few of us that are not part of the first thread *Glances at blade eyes* get together and start pulling our characters together for it.


Sounds like a splended Idea. :)

As for Hartus I have no clue how to answer that question I would suggest pming it to an admin. :)

[Darth Fernal]

how is the new order coming along? are we looking for any posts? anyone have ideas? why do i keep asking myself questions?
1. Slower then planned due to a few minor complications that are in the process of being worked out.

2. Anything that starts with a dark rebirth will be a sith oriented thread. Not to mean there can't be others. I encourge other threads.

3. you are possibly insane but no worries the majority of the population at fans is insane.



How about a few of us that are not part of the first thread *Glances at blade eyes* get together and start pulling our characters together for it.

Sounds like a splended Idea. :)

As for Hartus I have no clue how to answer that question I would suggest pming it to an admin. :)

Cooooool. Hmm, wonder what I should do with Fernal until I join up with the new order. Never played a Sith before... what do your guys do with their free time? Collect power? And when not actively collecting power, conspiring to get more power? There doesn't seem to be much canon on this.

Oooh, maybe I'll just kill off one of my other characters... Nifty :)

[Blind Molly]

LD here, Hartus.

The rule is that one Master rank means you can have another Master rank, or you can use it as a Knight rank. One knight rank means you can have one knight rank.

LD was a master before the reset, but I bumped her down to a Knight for story purposes. So one "rank" = one "rank"... master rank can equal a Master rank OR a Knight rank, but not two Knight ranks.

[Fraro Alvir]

anyone want to start an origins thread? like a meeting of the minds at a sith holy place or something?

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

Blade has been MIA because of real life. Hence why things are moving kinda slow.. but I dunno about everyone magically appearing at the holy place :lol

can still do meet ups ... perhaps even incorporate what I am doing currently with Aria/Blade/Setzer... I can talk to Blade if you want :)

[Elektra Kathian]

still waiting around with my sith. Currently she is tormenting some poor little insane seer type girl... *shrug

[Fraro Alvir]

Blade has been MIA because of real life. Hence why things are moving kinda slow.. but I dunno about everyone magically appearing at the holy place :lol

can still do meet ups ... perhaps even incorporate what I am doing currently with Aria/Blade/Setzer... I can talk to Blade if you want :)


wow. i was kidding about the holy place idea. but i am intrested in a orgins story. i didn't kill my master or my twin brother for nothing.

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

:lol hint ... when you kid add a smiley otherwise it's hard to tell when one is joking because it's just text.

[Fraro Alvir]

well, i am not normaly this sensitive but this is the second tim eyou busted on me like that. the 1st was with my jedi finor ztnnova.

i feel like i have a kick me sign on my back when you are around.:\

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

There is no busting, only suggestions. I'm sorry you feel that way but you can take or leave my suggestions. there is no finger pointing at all in anything I say. Nothing I said to you isn't something I would say to anyone else :)

Now back on topic. if you wish to discuss this further you may PM me.

[Darth Fernal]

oooo yeah :dance, we're gonna kick some Jedi butt soon!

Thought I still haven't figured out what this character is going to be like...:\ Need to introduce this guy somewhere but can't find his voice yet. I don't know the first thing about playing someone eeeeevil. I guess I'm just so naturally good. :(

[Lianna Mal Pannis]

well, as I said ... things are tough now with Blade a wee MIA, but for those of you not doing something, by all means go for it

[Fraro Alvir]

There is no busting, only suggestions. I'm sorry you feel that way but you can take or leave my suggestions. there is no finger pointing at all in anything I say. Nothing I said to you isn't something I would say to anyone else



Now back on topic. if you wish to discuss this further you may PM me.


no, i was kidding there as well. that's it. i am not typing anymore.:grumble

[Dasquian Belargic]

This thread needs a mighty bump.

Where the Sith at?

[Zereth Lancer]

Zereth is on Corellia at the moment, saving Ashe Sieris from Zanon.

Beyond that, not much happening on the sith front.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Well... I didn't mean geographically, so much as metaphorically. Just wondering whether there was still interest in getting a group going.

[Zereth Lancer]

I think the interest is still there, it is for me. It's just a matter of waiting for Blade to get it all going. I know I can't wait to get Zereth into a more sith-friendly environment, so to say.

[Darth Callidus]

If Blade is busy, are there any other ideas of how to get things going? If people are wanting to RP, we should just get to it.

[Alif Selelsh]

I have a character I'm working on to get involved. If there is something to do, I could pull him from my creative bank...

[Darth Lucid]

Sorry I'm slow all I am posting when I have the time.

[Dasquian Belargic]

No worries, Bladey. We're all pretty slow.

[Adrea Veliner]

bump

looking for something to do.

[Darth Lucid]

For anyone who is still Interested in this.

http://sw-fans.net/forum/showthread.php?p=246904#post246904

[Bloodcrest]

It's interesting that the Sith are still facing the same problems that they were six months ago. Not that I can speak, I threw the question out there then had to leave for a long while :D If I ever get more time (college is taking most of it) I think I might eventually start my Sith character back up but until then, Ramoth is one of two or three that I'm dropping. Such is life, eh?

[Jeseth Cloak]

I'll be starting a Dark Jedi order in the near future. But I guess this really doesn't do much for the Sith (unless you consider that it will give them a pretty good enemy).

[Darth Lucid]

Only an enemy if they stand in are way or attempt to take what belongs to us.