OW Presents

[O.W. Outcast]

The State of RP Address.

A three foot tall Duro in a business suit steps up to the podium. Then Glances back at an Intern with an evil glare. She proply runs out witha stool for the midget to stand on so he can be seen and heard.


Hello Fellow SWfanners out there, I am OW outcast. Some of you may or may not know me or may know me by another name. No I don't mean the name sexy little muffin man however that does have a nice ring to it.

For those of you who don't know what this thread is for it for a healthy talk on the current topic of how are rp world is going here. Mainly I am doing this cause I have no life and there are few things I would like to say.

To start off I would like to start with the Star wars roleplaying aspect of this board. It is the part that has kept this board running for along time now. Since well if you haven't guess The SW in fans stands for Star wars. If you don't know what star wars is may god have mercy on your soul.

As I see I see four major groups forming with in the star wars galaxy as it stands The Imps, The rebs, The jedi, and The independants. The sith are virtually non existant even though we have two groups that claim to be sith or are sith like. Them Being TSO and KA. I do miss the days when sith ruled the boards but some change is good I guess I still don't like seeing them almost non existent though. That does sadden me.

Now KA I understand was meant to start off a more introverted group dealing with internal struggles then expand outword from there. So it still has a chance to make an impact on the galaxy but has yet to be seen. I would personally like to see this a new sith group rise and be active through out the board. So I hope they keep up with it and expand.

TSO the old dominating sith group before the reset. Well i really don't know how dominanting they where but they sure where alllot more active and there board wasn't so dead back then. They where meant to be the primary sith group but as I see have failed in that task. I'm not sure why nor will I make an accusations I can not back up.

Independant Sith like the one I play Blade Ice. Independant sith have been around on occasion in the past. I personally don't care for it although I love playing a sith and the start of the reset and if now it is the only way blade can fit in the galaxy and still be semi active in the whole galaxy. I however find story material hard to come by because well the Jedi are scattered so we don't have them to fight. The Inquiserate is to busy hunting Jedi to notice the sith. The rebs well they just plan don't care about sith as long as they stay out of there business. Other Imps have the belief it is the iquiserates job to deal with them not theres. So Indepedents have a tuff job of trying to make a mark on the galaxy.

Jumping to the jedi now. They are still scattered but a few groups are forming here and there. Finding out that they are not all allone in the galaxy and they may have an army to fight back with after all. Yet the problem I for see with this is one I see with most of the independant groups (even sith ones).

Both the independant and jedi groups that have formed or are forming seem to be primarily introverted. Meaning after they get so many people they don't real go outside those people. They don't go out to try and find others of like mind. They don't try to build a community that welcomes others of like mind eather. A few indepedant groups including the Jedi could dominate this board if they would just figure out a way to hook up.

The Imps and Rebs are the to main rising factions. This good to see for back in the day they both seemed to be the Introverted groups only fighting amongst each other. But now they dominate which is a good thing but not nessarily every rpers cup of tea.

Now unto Cloud city. I was actually over joyed when I heard this place was being created. It would be a nuetral ground for everyone I thought. I thought oh joy there will be some great bar scenes of Fans past but with newer rpers or characters. I thought i would see reb flyboys and girls and Imp flyboy and girls getting into bar fights over who was the better pilot or faction. I thought I would see jedi ariving there to find there nemsis the sith still existed. Smugglers smuggling, Assasins backstabing, and Masterminds plotting there next big thing. I thought I would see all of that with this great Idea. Yet I was mistaken I don't see any of that. Which to me is travesty. Cloud city is nuetral ground play it up break stuff and leave the place a mess for the management of the city to clean up. I want to see lots of action there it is the only bar that is active on fans. It could be like the Yog's bar from GJO's past or Rama's if your old enough to remember when TSE was a group at fans. I miss the bar scene's the most if you haven't noticed.

Last SW group The Blacksun. Great Idea to get bounty hunters, smugglers, assasins, and other scum of the earth to come together. However it just hasn't pushed off as well as I thought it would. Maybe it's because the fight each other or because if they fight another faction it is ussually an NPCed faction like the Hutts. Not really sure. I mean they could go out and make deals with the imps and rebs. Make eather faction mad because of a dirty deal or because they play bothsides of the game. They just don't for what ever reason. or maybe it has nothing to do withem at all maybe it's cause the rebs or imps want no involvement with them witch would be a shame.

Sate of the sith - Dieing breed
State of the Jedi - Okay
State of the Imps - Alive
State of the Rebs - Alive
State of BS - Dieing Breed
State of Independants - Very Much Alive.
state of Cloud city - Not used enough.

WoD

What can i say it is an Idea that started off with a bang then faded and is still fading. The major problem that has been pointed out is the fact that there are two major storylines going on at once in totally different parts of the world. If you are not in one of the two areas your pretty much SoL. Trying to get into these bigger rps is just as hard cause well you will be more then liekly ignored for even trying. The story's seem to be more a few characters driven then a whole bunch of characters driving the story. If youare not one of the few you are just a side show atraction on the way to the end of the story.

Also it seems anything outside of being a Vampire is not very well incorperated to the stories. Mages, Immortals, Hunters, changlings, werewolves, wraiths(ghosts), gypsies, mortals, and Kindred of the east just don't seem that welcome even though they are meant to play there part as a whole in WoD. It isn't just about vampires cause if it was well it would be a very 2D rp and not the whole picture of the world. It isn't called VoD it's supose to be about the world and it's darksides.

State of WoD - Slowly dieing

X-men

It just seems well that it was started on a whim and then was left behind. Living those who where truelly interested in it stranded with no place to go. However this was not nessarily my case with the RP my character never even got started but that was due to his main story driving point which got cut short due to the person who was helping me get started going on a LoA of sorts from the whole board. But I have read a few of the x-men threads that still linger and well it just seems like allot of the people that started just up and left living those that where not starters of the idea going I want to play but I got nothing to do. I personally think it had to due with the fact that those who started seem to be the same groupd that try's to keep every rp going here at fans. That they maybe wearing them selves thin.

State of X-men - Dieing breed

As whole the community seems to be doing fine in small groups of people they just need to get out of those groups a little more and go explore. Find new people to communicate with and torment.

Thank you all for listening discuss, berate me, or do what you must this has been the unnoffical state of the rp adress. It is now open for debate.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Just a few thoughts from me. I'm sure I'll be back for more, as others contribute.

SW


Now KA I understand was meant to start off a more introverted group dealing with internal struggles then expand outword from there. So it still has a chance to make an impact on the galaxy but has yet to be seen. I would personally like to see this a new sith group rise and be active through out the board. So I hope they keep up with it and expand.

This is certainly my plan for the future of the KA. For those of you unaware of the current antics of the KA, we are in the process of approaching the Hapan Consortium to create allies with the Hapan Queen. Salem Ave's plans are to gain access to the Hapan Navy, usurp the Queen and plant a monarch of his own, and thus take control of the entire Hapan Empire. The Hapans are a force to be reckoned with, even for the Galactic Empire, so this would set the KA up as potential opposition to the Imps or Rebels. Of course it would be unrealistic for any of this to happen over night.

TSO, as far as I can tell, is dead. I have always been of the opinion that the group was too introverted before the reset, and since it did not make much of an effort to change following the reset, it seemed inevitable that interest in the faction should eventually wane.

The Imps and Rebels – well, I'm very pleased that they're strong again. It feel as if there has been a real turn around in what we're writing about. We've gone from having legions and legions of Force users to a strong, active Imp/Rebel presence. To me, at least, it seems much more true to the original Star Wars canon. I'd love to see more activity from independent characters, like you say OW. Smugglers, criminals, or even average people thrown into extraordinary situations.

Of course, it's all well and good to say I'd like to see this or I'd like to see that, but in the end it all comes down to what other people want to play. I could go and make another ten characters and try to get something going, but in the end I don't have the time or creative energy to do that. Other people might and if they do them I implore them to go for it! :)

WoD


The major problem that has been pointed out is the fact that there are two major storylines going on at once in totally different parts of the world. If you are not in one of the two areas your pretty much SoL. Trying to get into these bigger rps is just as hard cause well you will be more then liekly ignored for even trying.

While I already pointed this out as a problem myself, there's nothing to stop people starting their own big storylines. I wouldn't say that what Holly and I have going with London is that huge. We just spend a lot of time talking about it with one another, planning stuff. I can understand how, as a consequence of this, it might seem all-encompassing... but it's just one storyline. There's nothing to stop anyone doing things with other cities, or even with London if they wanted. All you need to do is start a thread about it here, asking for other participants – or if you're interested in London, ask either Holly or myself and we can bring you up to speed.


Also it seems anything outside of being a Vampire is not very well incorporated to the stories.

This is something we discussed when the WoD was still popular (i.e. people who aren't me and Holly were part of it :lol). The various games of WoD weren't built to crossover. They are standalone. Although you can try and incorporate them together, it's a pretty difficult thing to do – because they all have their own, often conflicting, goals and concerns. Garou and Kindred, for example, should really never interact with one another. That's not to say that we can't have Garou/Mage/etc storylines going, but the likelihood that they're going to play well alongside Vampire stuff? Not that high.

X-men


I personally think it had to due with the fact that those who started seem to be the same groupd that try's to keep every rp going here at fans. That they maybe wearing them selves thin.

Probably true, yes. I proposed the idea, mainly because I felt as if the Gen Rping forum was being ignored, written off as a failure. That being said, I don't think it should be down to any one group of people to keep an idea alive. Even if the founding members of something are no longer involved, there's no reason that another group of people shouldn't take over. This has always been the way that Fans worked – the old guard starts to fade out, and a new generation takes the reigns. I suppose it's a little tougher with X-Men, but with the WoD (and Gen Rping) as a whole – just take the initiative. Do something.

[Aurelias Kazaar]

One thing I do like is the RPing section.

It's become a true 'RPing' section with different sections (SW and General) and universes (didn't I see an 'Aliens' RP around the General Section somewhere? That's quite new.).

Hopefully there will be more to that in the future.

[Lilaena De'Ville]

Aurelias, are you talking about the General Rp?

Blade... groups are not run by the board. Groups are run by the people who started them. They aren't something that generally anyone else has any control over other than the people who are a part of said group. Furthermore, unless the group is breaching board wide rules (godmoding, etc) no one else has a right to tell another group how to do things.

This is capitalism, not communism. If you don't like the product (a certain group), you are free to create your own, better product.

I take offense to anyone outside of the group trying to tell me how my group (Kuklos Ataxia) should be run and what they think is wrong with it. As long as the members of my group are having fun, that is all that matters to me.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Well, I think LD just condensed what I was trying to say into a much clearer phrasing!

I agree, definitely. 'Fans has always been about making *your own* experience enjoyable.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I'm a little confused o_O Is there something wrong with the boards?

[O.W. Outcast]

No there is nothing wrong with this board first off.

Second off I wasn't trying to tell anyone how to do anything. In fact I state I liked the idea of what have heard the plans for the KA are. I just hope they are continued.

If you are eluding to what I said about cloud city. I'm trying to promote it not down it if anything. I like the Idea I just don't see it being used enough.

also for the record we are human not the borg. So intern everyone has a freedom of opnion and oposing thought. You don't like what I have to say you don't have to read.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

So, if nothing is wrong, than what's the gripe?

As far as I know, the board is happily skipping along and people are enjoying themselves. We've all been through this song and dance before.

[O.W. Outcast]

Never said there was a gripe or that I had one cause I don't. Just postimg on what I like and what I would like to see more of. It's an opinion not the almighty word here. I wanted to see what other people liked and would also like to see more of. But it seems a few people took it the wrong way.

[Loklorien s'Ilancy]

I understand your intentions are good, no worries on that.

The main thing I'm getting at though is that we've had all of our talks; all of our discussions on what would be good, what is good, what sucks, and what could be better. We've all been making an effort to grow Fans and to mature it, and over the last year and a half every one has come out in spades to make that idea a reality.

I read your first post yesterday right after waking up, and couldn't help but wonder why - if you missed TSO as much as it seems you do, why not take it over? I know Zereth would probably love the the chance to collaborate with you and to rebuild (if rebuilding is what you want to do). Of course, I also see nothing stopping the two of you from banding together like the Sith of old - only two. Heavens, it would be quite a campaign if the two of you set out after all other known Sith and Darksiders that are left, and tried to get rid of them. I know Decepis could use a run for his money.

I suppose I'm just saying that you should let your actions speak for you, and let those actions intertwine with ours and help to strengthen the RPing community here.

[Dasquian Belargic]

Well said, s'Il :)

[Zereth Lancer]

Yes. TSO is more then dead. The reason? I really cannot say exactly what has caused TSO to die horribly. Many things come to mind, such as the drop-off of our few members, a very inward sense of roleplaying and interaction. or even the leaving and retirement of most of our most prestigious members (ie: LV, Salem Ave/Warlock, and all those other old farts who's names I can't remember) and best writers/roleplayers (Je'gan Olra'en, Southstar). There are more thoughts, but I think it's a combination of those three that has turned TSO into a corpse. Now and then we manage to jump-start the corpse, get it's vitals up, make it look like it might come back to life, and then it flatlines again. In the end I always end up as the only remaining member, and it's not like this has happened only once or twice, it's happened many times.

I'm open for working with other sith, but I think Zereth's interactions with TSO are coming to an end, because I'm am tired of trying to make things work out, planning out huge scale roleplaying arcs, only to have the disapearences of members completely destroy everything. Yes, people have lives and unexpected things happen, but most of our members have disapeared without notices or even attempting to get on at some point and make a comment as to their absence. So, I think TSO has finally died once and for all this time, unless someone else wants to try bringing it back to life, because I'm not going to try anymore.

The idea of creating a new darkside group sounds much more inviting, and I would be more then open to interacting with other darksiders, or anyone at all for that matter. I just want to roleplay with Zereth. He is my favorite character, and currently my main character. Although it's hard to say that since I post the most with Jecht.